DF Direct Weekly

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

Petition for Rich to review the last gen ports of Jedi Survivor wearing his hermit costume.

[@RAMPED]

Signed.

[@grantwalker2046]

You've got my vote!

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

If Rich does that I’ll sign up to patreon

[@MisterReen]

Would be soooo nice!

[@ChaseSchleich]

Very curious to see his review for it. I don't think the game is going to look good or run well at all on OG PS4 and the Xbox VCR.

[@purebaldness]

3:38 - curious 17:46 - curious 37:30 - curious 37:37 - curious 37:45 - curious 40:12 - curious 54:49 - curious 54:53 - curious 55:53 - curious 1:03:27 - curious 1:04:30 - curious 1:04:49 - curious 1:09:08 - curious 1:09:18 - curious _Thanks to @sevbaileyify for the first timestamp._ _Thanks also to ​@JoPsyph for the second timestamp._

[@DinnerIsDelayed]

What are you trying to say here?

[@purebaldness]

​@@DinnerIsDelayedYou'll be curious to see how the rest of the video unfolds...

[@SICK_O]

Curiouser and curiouser.

[@purebaldness]

@@SICK_O How curious!

[@SICK_O]

@@purebaldness I've waited for someone to do this. Your dedication, good sir, is admirable. 🧐

[@e2rqey]

The codename for Half Life Alyx being "Jamiroquai" is pretty funnny tbh and actually makes sense. It's totally a reference to the fact that the band has a song called "Virtual Insanity". Which is exactly what you would describe the decision to make a VR Half Life game outta nowhere.

[@HankBaxter]

Good catch...

[@oliverdavis4642]

virtual insanity is probably also the most famous song to include the phrase virtual reality

[@Stephen_Black]

I would argue that things not working properly, editing .ini and .cfg files, asking people on Reddit why nothing is working, downloading questionable software from unknown 3rd parties and ultimately buying new hardware due to weird compatibility problems IS the true heart of the PC experience.

[@paulyboy29]

but dammit once it works.... look out

[@KhizarKhan2001]

i would disagree, it used to be the case back in 360/ps3 era but these days most newer games i buy just simply work without needing to do much tweaking

[@vjmtz]

​@@KhizarKhan2001 i also disagree, while true the vast majority and the ideal thing is for a PC to just work, that is not how PCs inheriently work and is the PC experience unfortunately and even fortunately. PCs are just inherently susceptible to issues due to so many things. Its why there's consoles where "it just works" is a selling point at the loss of quality and having a wider range of use (PCs can do work+gaming) at a cheaper price for HW. PC users unfortunately have to take that risk using a open platform, much like how Linux users have to accept the same prospect. The good thing though is there is community support, and self-control to resolve such issues, or to simply make a game better through mods, hacks, etc.

[@Cogglesz]

True statements OP! Haven't been happier to unlock more feautures (or even DLC) by editing some config files and getting help for any vauge issues and someone already went through every issue you did. Thing i worry about is the simplification of games distribution. Take the Xbox App, Great to just hit play and go, especially if you go portable or something, i've noticed though you can't even edit or mod most titles, Heck ReShade is totally banned from being applied to any game and actually banned to use for Xbox App Pc users. It's such a pain for a legacy user to just be locked out of config files and enhancements. I think for steam we'll still at least have plenty years of messing about with game files. Even something as simple as adding your own radio station in GTA back in 05 was amazing. We've got so many extra resources and memory on tap for being a power user.

[@MGsubbie]

@@vjmtz "Its why there's consoles where "it just works" is a selling point" But that's barely the case anymore either. It's a false perception because there is no way to fix things on console, so people don't spend any time trying to fix it. They just have to accept it not working properly. Jedi Survivor was pretty broken on console too until they released the non-RT versions as well, for example. And PC gamers have higher standards for what is acceptable performance as well.

[@younggio9065]

For anyone having bluetooth issues with psvr2 pc if you have a Wi-Fi extender it’s likely also used for Bluetooth extension as well remove the Bluetooth adapter and use the Bluetooth in your pc with the extension plugged in the back of the motherboard and give it a go fixed the controller issues for me and everything runs flawlessly now

[@tim.fletcher]

This. And update your Bluetooth drivers. Sounds like a no brainer, but I had to go directly to Intel's website to get the latest.

[@jamespalmer421]

Yeah, I had no bluetooth issues at all. I have bluetooth built into my motherboard with a wifi/bluetooth antenna, and from what I've ready, anyone else with this configuration hasn't had problem either. It seems to be more about strength of signal and low interference than it is about specific bluetooth standards. I think the miss from Sony here is that they saw there were bluetooth issues but didn't properly figure out the proper fix to communicate on their website. Update your drivers, make sure your computer isn't inbetween where the bluetooth is coming from and your controllers, and it should work.

[@user-ch2gn4ku9v]

Always weird when computer guys like these guys here can't figure out computer stuff. Also, some reports are saying that from the start Sony DID plan to eventually have psvr2 running on PC. If true then the claim that they just slapped on the pc compatability last minute is bad journalism

[@princepeachfuzz]

2:00:00 PS4 Pro user here! i haven't upgraded because i wasn't allowed to game from 2013 to 2021, i never owned a 7th gen console, and am working my way up and catching up on things I've missed and am now on 8th gen, the cost of the new machine + a new 4k display + a better sound system is too high for me, sorry for everyone looking at us like cavemen but we're excited for the future too, it's just that life is inconsistent, and quality entertainment can still be found on older systems, i don't think it's a cardinal sin to not upgrade when you're in an undeveloped 3rd world country, cheers!

[@T8staDiM3rda]

Me too. Series X as well as ps4 pro. I don’t play any of the games mentioned though . I am still finding games in the store that tickle my fancy. Games still look and play great - especially the order 1886 😊. I did recently buy a new telly that takes advantage of next gen features( DF’s current gen) so maybe Black Friday will push me on .

[@Datenschutz_Datenschutz]

if your're on FW 9.0 - 11."00" you can safe a lot of money.

[@Alcatraz760]

Hopefully rich didnt forget to connect the motherboard wifi antennas before using bluetooth, those antennas are quite easy to forget

[@21sewage96]

That just solved my problem. Thank you very much alcatraz! Had the same issues rich mentioned (one controller got stuck for 10-15sec) - now the tracking seems flawless.

[@siuzya0r1N]

That's really really true.

[@TherconJair]

Had it already connected, but it didn't help with controller issues (AMD RZ616, custom MediaTek Filogic 330P).

[@FilledWithChi11]

I don’t have any issues with tracking using the psvr2 and my motherboards built in Bluetooth. Make sure to update the drivers and use the WiFi antennas for Bluetooth they are needed. If that still doesn’t work you need to buy a dongle and use an extension to get it far from the adapter and PC.

[@Shadow-King]

I'm also not having Bluetooth issues whilst using the motherboard BT, this comment is the fix though. After having watched Ian Higtons video it seemed clear to me that he still had his MoBo BT adapter turned on at the same time as trying to connect to the new adapter he bought

[@samuelestri1874]

Here everything works flawlessly too. Even with a cheap Bluetooth 5 adapter. Only bummer is that it doesn't work on Linux, which can be a problem since I can't stand Windows since I switched.

[@aggies11]

I remember Sony's DS4 controllers having numerous BT issues with Windows PC. (Essentially you would get connections that pair ok, and then eventually drop out (no inputs) while remaining detected). The strange thing is this would be a bit unpredictable, it could work fine for a while, then act up, then be fine again, all without changing any hardware or drivers. There were numerous (laborous) work arounds you could use to get everything working but it was a pretty byzantine process. I wonder if those might still work for this issue. Either way I'd imagine there must be a quirk to Sony's BT implementation on their Playstation hardware that doesn't always play nice with PC. Some nonstandard BT uses (or more likely,, using some part of the standard that is just ignored by most PC hardware vendors). Still I'm sure it's frustrating if you do get the issue.

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

No issues here either 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@RobVespa]

I'm one of the few who enjoyed The Order 1886. I'd always hoped this would be the start of a series. Sad to hear the studio has closed. Thanks, Mark! I suppose there's a price to pay when flushing billions down a virtual toilet.

[@thedude8128]

I love when arm chair CEOs start breaking down budgets and financials for massive publicly traded companies they are not even close to be qualified for tell other CEOs how they made a mistake Bruh, if you had any inkling of intelligence to be the ceo of SIE, you wouldn't be in the comments section of KZbin claiming what you wrote. 😂

[@RobVespa]

@@thedude8128 - Yeah, no. Think you responded to the wrong comment. That typed, your response to whomever kind of comes across like you're a jerk. It also seems unintentionally ironic. As an aside, I've been behind closed doors for any number of companies at the highest levels and, well, you don't know what you're talking about. Anyone else whose been there can verify that how many high-level people behave can be shocking. Also, I'm fairly certain that tons of high-level, well-known, talented, and intelligent people are in the comments sections of videos all the time. They're people.

[@yusufahmed3153]

​@@thedude8128 Sony? If any company was getting insulted in the comment, it was probs Meta. Oh I think I get it.....dude thought it was about Mark CERNY not Mark Zuckerberg lol

[@lewisgrey6010]

Updated the drivers on my on board Mobo Bluetooth (manually via the website, don’t rely on Windows) and I’m using the wireless antenna, no connection issues at all with the PSVR2 sense controllers. I think most of the issues are user error. EDIT: One tip if your PSVR2 and controllers are already paired with a PS5, update the firmware for all the devices on the PS5 first before attempting to connect to PC.

[@SageMadHatter]

8:38 “The concept of the PC is that it just works” What? lol I remember Apple commercials where they described Macs as just working, in contrast to PCs, due to long history of PC having compatibility issues. Sorry Rich, PC it just works is not a thing, heh

[@chillnagasden6190]

Bad PC user detected.

[@UmVtCg]

I don't know what year you are living in. But Windows has compatibility with just about anything but the kitchen sink. If it's not working it's a PICNIC problem.

[@mbsfaridi]

Indeed, the drivers don’t work or need a specific version, recent intel stability disaster, games always broken and you need tweat bazillion settings and files to get to it work correctly etc. Windows updates botch spmething new. That was truly a deluded comment from him.

[@SageMadHatter]

@@UmVtCg Spoken like someone who bought a Dell computer from Best Buy. Anything non-standard is going to have issues on a Windows PC. The more bleeding edge hardware you go, the higher chance you will see problems. To give recent examples, Oculus Rift S, came out in 2019 and to this day they still have not fixed the usb port issues with it. The Tilt Five Augment Reality set that came out in 2022 also suffers from connectivity issues. I gave these as examples, because you can easily search problems on these and will find thousands of posts trying to find work around these problems. You might think that once you find a work around, it is resolved, but you would be wrong. In the case of the Oculus Rift S, you have to go through a series of disconnect & reconnects for the software to correctly initialize the device, every single time you want to use it.

Yeah it’s consoles that it just works, wtf PC has always been troubleshoot your problems platform.

[@BennysGamingLounge]

Talking about Half-Life 3 reminds me of Charlie looking for Pepe Sylvia

[@GeneralKenobi69420]

Tools!! I need to have my TOOLS!!

[@kenneld]

Can we talk about the data-mining please, Rich? I've been dying to talk about the data-mining with you all day, okay?

[@DeonvanHeerdenMusic]

10/10

[@DeadPixel1105]

So I start marchin' my way down to Gabe in Valve HQ and I knock on his door and I say, "Gaben! Gaben! I gotta talk to you about Half-Life 3." And when I open the door what do I find? There's not a single goddamn desk in that office! There is no Gabe Newell working at Valve. Mac, half the employees in this building have been made up. This office is a goddamn ghost town.

[@kendokaaa]

CAROL!

[@pawelkrupowicz2539]

I have Intel chip based Wifi6/Bluetooth PCIe card in my PC and PSVR2 controllers work flawlessly. So dongles listed by Sony are not the only option.

[@TopGunZero]

Yeah, that was a lie. They're recommended because Sony has used them in their testing and confirmed they worked for them, but there are a multitude of variables, which make it difficult to put out a detailed user guide to guarantee functionality. Motherboard, usb ports, power draw, environmental interference....

[@pawelkrupowicz2539]

@@TopGunZero what lie? Sony didn't lie - they didn't say that it was the only option, only that those dongles are verified to work, just as you described. I phrased it like that only to make it clear to people that there are other options, but Sony never claimed otherwise.

[@TopGunZero]

@@pawelkrupowicz2539 I'm referring to DF.

[@kordelas2514]

@@pawelkrupowicz2539 Sony gave information about specification of BT, i.e., 4.0 or above.

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

​@@TopGunZero DF has currently no way of knowing more than this. The best recommendation in this scenario would be to go with Sony's recommendation

[@TylerMcVicker1]

yo that half-life bit - quick correction; HOTDOG was a codename for Left 4 Dead VR/Left 4 Dead 3. Deadlock's codename was Project8 & Citadel. ALSO! You should tell the followers that I’m working on a much larger video about a significant amount of new information on the Half-Life game. I’ve been datamining for weeks.

[@AdamMi1]

I'm looking forward to watch it!

[@Neb_Raska]

Valve is not working on anything Half Life related at the moment, stop making things up

[@MarcosSantos7]

Play Half Life Alyx for about 6 hours this weekend with PSVR2 oficial adapter and bluettooth from motherboard. Works great since you keep controllers not too far from PC. My CPU is Xeon E2667 V4 and a RX5700xt.

[@Shadow-King]

@@MarcosSantos7 awesome, what performance level are you playing it at? I've got mine set to high now using the same gfx card, but I dunno how it's doing FPS wise

[@SuperNova-py1ec]

Hoping the 2300% increase on PSVR2 sales promotes Sony or other developers to make games or ports for the device

[@DuckAlertBeats]

It might be a 2300% increase on like, 12 units though. Hard to really know

[@SuperNova-py1ec]

@@DuckAlertBeats I bought one and I personally know at least 2 other people who bought one. They sold more in one day than they had in the last 7 months. As you mention Sony don’t release sales figures so hard to know. I think it’s fair to suggest that a decent number were sold. In fact it sold out everywhere.

[@Chief_Sitz_On_Bowl_TNSAGDWGCat]

If you care to look you would notice there are half a dozen high quality titles slated for the rest of the year.

[@PockitGames]

Here's hoping that Stop Killing Games gets a lot of traction!

[@chutcentral]

"The number one thing about PC is compatibility, things should just work" LOL. You must be new here Rich....

[@xBINARYGODx]

but thats true most of the time - having high profile disasters those generally are also that way on console doesnt makae the rest of the pc stuff no plug and play. most users never touch an ini file or do ANYthing non-console like with their pc.

[@matthewbarrios1028]

You want to know how to keep games going after the developer stops support? Look at the older Phantasy Star Online games. Private servers, player support, and upgrades to technology to allow further support. The games have to be opened up to the community to keep alive. WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO LOSE? The developer isnt selling or profiting from them anymore. Turn the damn code and server software over to the community.

[@Szydelski]

The companies just want total control, thats the issue.

[@Mondknall]

"Everything runs" is the usual PC experience? Since when?^^

That HL3 thing can be a successor to Alyx as well. I mean the end of Alyx literally jumps back into the skin of Gordon Freeman, right after the events of HL2: Ep2. They can continue it as a VR game if they want.. the 20th anniversary of EP2 is in October 2027.

[@xBINARYGODx]

they can make a retconning ep 3 a vr thing - but the thing that will be thought of as hl3 no matter what they call it cannot be a VR thing - sorry, but VR is niche and alyx didnt lead to anything substantial in terms of mass marketing the tech. PSVR, when Sony is not mucjing it up, can lay claim to something like that, I suppose.

​@@xBINARYGODx Alyx is one of a kind, with no other developer making a similar class VR game ever since, unfortunately. So sadly I must agree. Even though 2027 is 3 years away, I don't see VR becoming more accessible in that time frame. The current headsets are still clumsy for the average user. We just don't have the tech to shrunk them into thin glasses. And we won't get better VR content until it becomes more popular. Classic catch 22.

[@4Clubs]

Thank you for bringing attention to the Stop Killing Games petition. I hope more EU citizens sign it.

[@Szydelski]

Hope that too! Answer for attention.

[@HankBaxter]

@@Szydelski Me three!

[@LeesChannel]

It's amazing, Half-Life 2 is 20 years old now. It certainly doesn't feel that way, although there are some antiquated elements to it. If it were to come out today, it would be a AA game, and would be well received, but not as revolutionary as when it came out, obviously. Now if you were to look 20 years before that, suddenly you've gone from Half-Life 2 to Ms. PACMAN! That's a crazy gulf, and it really illustrates the massive strides we used to take, and how the industry is getting slower and slower.

[@AlmostLikeHuman]

54:50 the speed with which Alex responds "I'm curious about this" makes it sound like he actually means "oh god, anything but PC version of Jedi Survivor" 😂

[@Alcatraz760]

1:54:28 Actually it wasnt that complicated. Based on the story from amd when gamers nexus visited them, the 3d models existed because they had some v cache dies that couldn’t make up a full Epyc chip, so the engineers just slapped it into an am4 board and found great gains when used as a ryzen chip.

[@knightsaber]

PSVR2 Would have done fine if the PSVR1 titles had been ported up. No excuse for that. Totally dropped the ball.

[@TheDarksideFNothing]

It's like Sony just completely abandoned it as soon as it came out. Disappointing.

[@JerryFlowersIII]

I really don't see it at all that simple. The two headsets work so completely differently for their tracking, as well as the move controllers having many more buttons than the PSVR2 controllers. It's really up to the devs to update their own games. Preferably with no additional cost despite the investment that would surely take.

[@Cogglesz]

Its actually silly...I don't get how i can get a meta quest to be able to play exclusive valve VR games with incompatible controllers (Headset is much newer than the software) and still have it be fully playable. It takes about 2 minutes to edit a config file and sort everything out on the headset end. Can't tell me the entirety of Sony didn't think of backwords compatibility when even the VR1 had a very shallow pool to pick from already. You don't need devs to add new updates to every game, Over on PC you can easily enjoy 2017 titles with 2023 hardware. Steam made it work and made it seem easy thanks to their experience with big picture mode and custom controller configs. Probably some silly anti piracy that won't detect the controllers since you had to use PS3 Move controllers. It's the only reason i can think of for them not doing what steam does with the 10 or more VR headsets and controllers out in the PC space.

[@Alcatraz760]

@@JerryFlowersIII Tracking method doesn't matter, otherwise SteamVR supporting external tracking like valve index and inside out tracking like quest headsets would explode. The game should only see the positional data, it isn't the one managing the actual tracking. The only real issue i can see is the control scheme issue.

[@BenPyman]

​@@Alcatraz760Well at least astro bot tracked the base PS4 controller which wouldn't be possible to translate. But for most games, they probably could've converted the tracking input. I guess Sony just didn't want the difficulty of having partial backwards compatibility (and manually white/blacklisting games).

[@AltenbergerWiesel]

Why I still have and use my PS4: - I own a FullHD Plasma-TV - so no 4K - I still have a big pile of shame of PS4-Games to play - PS5 is way too expensive for what it offers for me - I've limited time to play as I have many other interests and for the most: I'm a father now and so time is very limited - I use my PS4 also als a Blu-ray Player and for Netflix, Amazon Prime etc. So yes - there is no need to update. AND: I'm waiting for the Switch 2 and not for the PS5 (Pro). Sorry Sony.

[@user-te3uu2lq8r]

Maybe I was lucky but I haven’t had any issue with PSVR adapter

[@kordelas2514]

Because there are no issues with PSVR2 adapter. BT is not a part of it.

[@leftctrlgaming]

It's people's motherboard BT/Wi-Fi chipset...some companies cheap out on it My MSI board seems to work fine but I did pick up a dongle and extension cable case I needed it

[@grcigar9911]

How many gamers today even played the original HL games? Whether or not there is a ‘new’ game to the series in the works, I would love to see current gen remakes first released across all platforms. These masterpieces deserve to be played by more people.

[@dan_loeb]

valve doesn't really develop for consoles anymore. aside from the portal switch ports (which were done by nvidia lightspeed, not valve), the last consoles they put games out on were the xbox 360 and ps3. i think their continued growth plus hardware ambitions have put console ports behind them. that said, the original half life got a huge update for its 25th anniversary and you can run half life on almost anything. there's source ports for android, and the minimum specs of both hl1/2/e1/e2 mean it will run great on any laptop or desktop from the past 15 years on integrated graphics.

[@SINfromPL]

There has been more Half-Life 1 concurrent players on Steam than throughout 4 years Alyx players on SteamVR. PCVR is absolutetly dead.

[@belot217]

The HL3 meme heyday is definitely past but it'd still sell very, very well.

[@dan_loeb]

​@@SINfromPL alyx isn't really a good long term game to look at for vr numbers as it's a one and done experience though. Look at stuff like bone lab, blade and sorcery, pavlov, etc. alyx's replayability is really limited by it's control methodology and clunky/slow movement. it's a great first vr game, but once you get your vr legs, it's quickly and vastly outshined in actual gameplay, just not in graphics. VR is and always will be niche though. anything that needs you to put a heavy brick on your face and mess up your hair won't fly with most people as more than a novelty.

[@SINfromPL]

@@dan_loeb WTF are you talking about... #1 PCVR game is Gorilla Tag. last i checked, 70% of people never even got to the last level in Alyx. it's an overhyped game, pooptier game to add to it, but it's "loved" because it's made by VALVE, and that is literally it's selling point. thousands of people who never owned VR headset and likely never will purchased it solely to support VALVE, the company who released one headset over 5 years ago and haven't done a thing for VR ever since. pavlov is dead too. blade and sorcery is like 6 years old. PCVR has died, because GAYBENS only want to buy from STEAM, but STEAM does not care about VR at all, never did, never will. STEAM DECK is STEAM future.

[@finthechatboisqwq5602]

Q: "Why won't the PS4 die?" A: It had games

[@tanksKABOOM]

real I'm not buying a PS5 when God of War Ragnarok looks nearly identical, Bloodborne doesn't take advantage of the PS5 at all (much less the PS4 pro) and hardly any interesting IPs are being established on the PS5 in the first place Only major sticking point for me with the PS4 is the hard drive, but a $50 SSD is cheaper than a $500 console, and now loading times are blazing fast

[@GhoulSolo___]

​@@tanksKABOOM "Nearly identical"

[@finthechatboisqwq5602]

@@GhoulSolo___ I mean...they're not wrong The only difference you could call major on PS5 is the framerate - which is significant - but everything else is just minor polish that you can't reasonably expect the player to notice outside of a side-by-side comparison. I've played both consoles versions, and the PS5 version subjectively *feels* somewhat better, but not nearly enough to sell me a system

[@GhoulSolo___]

@@finthechatboisqwq5602 I'm confused how the PS5 could feel subjectively better when you admitted that it had higher frame rates in the exact same comment. The PS5 would have Higher resolution, higher texture quality, higher resolution textures, Ray tracing, and a significantly larger draw distance. Factor all that in and it's not nearly identical. So yes, they are literally wrong

[@finthechatboisqwq5602]

@@GhoulSolo___ Arguing semantics rather than addressing the real point; these are not things many players are likely to notice outside of direct side-by-side comparison The point isn't that there's no difference, but rather the differences are so minor that many simply won't subjectively notice them at a reasonable viewing distance. I'm very sensitive to changes in framerate, but I know several friends who can't tell 30 from 60, much less 60 from 120. So yes, even though there are *objective* differences, their *subjective* impact varies from person-to-person

[@09MANNYASD]

Yeah I didn’t have any issues with the Bluetooth adapter/tracking with an Antenna in place. Was able to get Cyberpunk 2077 VR and Half-Life Alyx running with no tracking issues. I’m assuming there’s less bluetooth interference caused with a dedicated WiFi/bluetooth antenna.

[@AbrahamZX1]

Same, has worked really well with my motherboard's Bluetooth antenna. It should be much better than having a USB Bluetooth dongle.

[@eugkra33]

5800x3D is stupid expensive now. Just get a 5700x3d, which is 4% slower, and usually over $100 cheaper in the last few months,

[@q2405]

The internal codename for the revamped XIV engine is CEDAR, but they barely said anything about it, if at all. It is a branch of the White Engine (which became Crystal Tools during XIII dev) used in XIV. Recently, they took that engine, retooled it with some advancements in tech made in the defunkt Luminous (mainly PBR and so on), and voilà. That is what powers XVI I reckon.

[@w061a09]

radec not cedar

[@q2405]

@@w061a09 Yes, I've seen the two acronyms

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

1:15:49 the engine used on FF16 does not have a name. It is a modified engine created from the FF14 Realm Reborn engine which was a modified engine of the Luminous Engine used on FF15. Crystal Tool was the game engine made for FF13 which had a ton of issues during development and which was superseded by the Luminous Engine.

[@EngJorgeSantana]

Non 3D parts are for productivity. What the zen 5 does is have better performance at 65w not 125w. So strip point portables will have a 20+ performance boost at 15-25watts. Plus power usage will be way lower than last gen.

[@defeqel6537]

As far as the Stop Killing Games initiative and services like MMOs: it would not apply, but it WOULD apply to games that are sold as goods (ie. without clear service conditions, like $X / month)

[@mondodimotori]

16:00 The purpose of non X3D CPU is non gamers. It's the professional sectors that not only won't benefit from the 3D V cache, but that also can't accept the lost in production performances the non X3D CPU suffers. X3D chips are always slower in production that their non X3D counterparts. And the 9700x destroys the 7800X3D in Cinebench and, at almost half the power, matches the 7700x. If you enable PBO, and let it run with much higher power usage, it destroys almost all AMD CPUs currently on the market. Guys, PC is not just for gaming. Those are consoles... I spend hours every day rendering on my PC, keeping it at 100% CPU usage. I don't need 3D V cache for that workload, I need multicore performances and clock speed. And if I can get those without bleeding myself dry with electricity bill, even better.

[@aggies11]

Fair point, it really does depend on the workload. But to counter, not every gamer has the budget for higest end X3D chips (although the more recent 5700X3D was nice to see, it's coming too late to be relevant). Those gamers are looking for 6 and 8 core parts. As upgrades from the R5 7600 and R5 7700, these new chips don't move the needle much for gaming, and cost much more. This product stack segement's chips can usually deliver excellent performance/price for value oriented buyers. That value is missing this time around. And one can make a similar argument that productivity oriented consumers with "work" to do, would be more interested in the top of the stack with 12 and 16 core oriented chips. So I think it might be fair to split the difference and say these chips are often oriented at value consumers who can't afford the top of the stack, and might do a mix of both gaming and productivity tasks.

[@tek1645]

These CPUs are marketed for gamers

[@nando3d491]

For developers the gain was very high, Numpy, Pytorch, compilation with LLVM, NodeJS have practically double the performance.

[@mondodimotori]

@@tek1645 no their not. X3D sre

[@mondodimotori]

@@aggies11 and they are good at that mixed use. They are pretty similar in gaming and productivity to the previous gen when keeping them at the very low stock power, but are much faster when enabling PBO. That's where the value is: you can run them at very low power output without loosing performances to the previous gen, or customise the power delivery to get huge gains in performance. These chips are great for DIY pc builds. But X3D chips from previous gen are not that expensive. If you mainly game with your pc, that's your option.

[@BarryMagikarp]

the efficiency of the 9700x looks less impressive when stacked against the 7700 non x, outside of certain workloads it's a minimal bump in performance and efficiency for quite a bit more money. I noticed the positive reviews didn't include the 7700 non x.

[@xBINARYGODx]

because that would be inconvenient to their fanboyism.

[@mattmexor2882]

Apparently raring and rearing both mean the same thing: a horse standing up on its hindquarters. So both "rearing to go" and "raring to go" are equivalent, except for the idiom seemingly appearing with the "raring" form first. Most Americans would say a horse "rears up" on its hindquarters so it makes more sense for them to say they are "rearing to go" than to say they are "raring to go".

[@LeesChannel]

Well, the saying is raring to go, rearing usually refers to raising young. Saying "rearing to go" will be odd to anyone familiar with the term.

[@LeesChannel]

And I'm saying this as an American, by the way.

[@mattmexor2882]

@@LeesChannel That's just not true. 'Rearing', like most other words, has more than one meaning. "Rearing to go" is not odd to most Americans. It's likely the more common way to say it in the US, and it's not wrong or strange, unlike some other changed idioms, like "butt load", "butt naked", or "doggy dog world". If you would say "rears up" instead of "rares up" it seems strange to say "raring to go".

[@mattmexor2882]

@@LeesChannel I live in he USA, too. I am also American. It doesn't matter if you have never heard it. I have. Why not do a google search? There are areas of the country where "rare" is a verb, apparently. But for most of the population, the verb is "rear". How about this, make two searches on youtube. Search for "horse rearing" and then search for "horse raring". See what you find. The phrase was apparently originally "raring to go" (although Google ngram suggests that the two sprang up near concurrently around 1920 and then the "raring" variant became dominant). But almost no one uses the word "rare" in that way any more. It makes no sense to use a dialectical word outside one's own dialect when the natural thing is to use the word from one's own dialect. In print, sticklers will perhaps demand 'raring' but 'rearing' can't be considered wrong because 'rearing' and 'raring' mean the exact same thing." Many people naturally say "rearing to go" and most of the people who don't probably never thought about what in the world "raring" is.

[@loldoctor]

⁠@@LeesChannelthis level of condescension is kind of impressive lol

[@The_Jester]

I received my PSVR2 on Friday with the adapter, which I do not need. I tested it directly with my 6900XT, and both worked great. I had no issues at all with Alyx. However, the desktop view is blurry, and I cannot use it for some reason. I cannot figure out why, but it is amazing for gaming.

[@Aletdownofstate]

I managed to grab the PSVR2 PC Adapter in the brief moments of them being in stock. I'm using a generic £4 Bluetooth adapter from Amazon and having no issues with it whatsoever, so Sony's list is definitely not exhaustive. I did get stuck on the 'prepare your devices' screen for a frustratingly long time though. It's pretty good though once it's all setup. Pretty huge update from my original Oculus Rift CV1.

[@alexatkin]

Its a huge upgrade from the Rift S too.

[@unnoticedhero1]

@@alexatkin I also upgraded from Rift S and it's great, though with Rift S it was low res enough that I could play without my glasses and didn't notice a difference, PSVR is so high-res that I actually have to wear them now for it not to look blurry, but the 120hz and OLED is very nice.

[@UrbenLegend]

1:19:30 You guys absolutely MUST play Ready At Dawn's VR titles. Lone Echo 1 and 2 are amazing VR experiences second only to Half-Life: Alyx in my opinion. That series showcased jaw dropping graphical fidelity and really innovative, immersive VR gameplay. I am really saddened by their closure as it just shows Meta's continued lack of dedication towards high-fidelity VR experiences.

[@Chedmond]

I bought a PSVR2 adapter to get some use out of the headset, and my experience has been pretty smooth. I used my motherboard's wifi (Asus/Tuf Gaming X570) with the attached antenna, and have had no issues with controls. It's too bad that PC games in general don't support the eye-tracking and haptic feedback the PSVR2 offers, but it's still a nice piece of hardware, though I don't think it's the best choice for VR if you don't have a PS5 as well.

[@kordelas2514]

What is a better PC VR headset for this price or especially for a price it was on offer?

[@AndyGilleand]

I had my controller disconnect once, but after re-pairing, I haven't had any issues and I'm running an older bluetooth adapter. Front panel USB though. The recommended adapters aren't strictly necessary.

[@russellbelew2604]

I feel like AMD pulled a rather scummy move with the naming of the Zen 5 chips. They are 65W TDP chips which makes them really the successor to the 7600 and 7700 (non-X) chips. However, they are priced and come without the cooler as if they are the higher TDP chips. AMD basically decided to brand these X chips to justify the higher cost and lack of cooler, despite clearly being spiritual follow-up to the non-X chips. Absolute BS in my opinion.

[@plume...]

This was a fantastic episode, thanks guys

[@Dungwader]

Just as a singular data point, the PSVR2 adapter worked pretty flawlessly right out the box. I made sure that the headunit and controllers were on the most current firmware from the PS5. I made sure my PC was on the most current drivers. My wireless and Bluetooth are integrated into the motherboard with external antennae. That may not help folks that are having problems or don't have a PS5 to check for the latest firmware. Generally you'll hear a higher amount of complaints than you will good news. All the best to people having issues with it.

[@ryanianm]

Was looking forward to yall's take on the Jedi Survivor update news and did not disappoint! Can't wait to see your in depth re re re-review once it drops.. cheers!

[@ThisisCitrus]

I tried Jedi Survivor on PC recently, on my 4090 system the game had such bad frametime it gave me a literal headache after playing it for 30 minutes.

[@rebeccagibson7428]

Since Jedi Survivor is getting a last gen port, it may also be worth looking into the Elden Ring dlc on ps4 and Xbox one too, there's not a lot of footage of that on KZbin.

[@dewinter1411]

Current gen consoles apparently don’t run the DLC particularly well, so it’s probably not very interesting to look at the less powerful console versions.

[@susan5063]

You missed another one of the big reasons why devs are still making games for PS4… it basically has the same amount of RAM as the Series S… so why wouldn’t devs target PS4? Most games sell more copies on PS4 over every Xbox console combined. And something I don’t see people talking about when discussing the small amount of RAM, is if you need more than 6GB at any given time (which is likely always) all the RAM will drop to 52Gb/s. It only runs at the 226Gb/s when using 6GB or less

[@Nulade]

On the topic of Generative AI, I don't think there's a solution for allowing the use of image/voice/writing/music/etc models that doesn't involve stealing from massive quantities of people without compensation because that would be impossibly expensive and impossible for them to track. This isn't a case of "can't put the genie back in the bottle", it's a case of us collectively recognizing this technology for what it is: theft on a massive scale. As you guys mentioned, there are Machine Learning use cases that are essentially evolutions of procedural generation which I don't think anyone is raising concerns over to my knowledge, but Generative AI in the sense of replacing concept artists or voice actors or musicians or etc by building something using billions of years of our collective work needs to again be recognized by everyone for what it actually f***ing is: THEFT.

[@omar_sacca]

I had almost written a long comment to say exactly this but you've put it much better, thank you :)

[@Conner112]

Meta does have a long history of open sourcing some of their tech! React, React Native, GraphQL, PyTorch, and llama all come to mind. Hopefully they do the same with Ready at Dawn.

[@JerryFlowersIII]

It is a huge bummer to lose Ready at Dawn. The Order has such amazing tech and I would have loved to see more flat panel games from them. I won't ever own a quest so unfortunately I won't be able to experience their VR games.

[@James-gj8rn]

I'm actually ENJOYING Star Wars Jedi Survivor on PS5 FINALLY, the PC version is a joke and the PS5 version is (at last) in a decent state to play (i'm sick of the whole "Release it now, patch it later" mentality these days (also fake physical copies can die))

[@leonro]

Because of the whole thing, I'll buy the PS5 game when it's on sale for 15€ or less, preferably second hand. Yes, I am petty.

[@RegularEverydayNormalGuy]

@@leonronot petty, sir, you are smart 😂

[@James-gj8rn]

@@leonro I got the second hand PS5 copy after the mess that was the PC version ( i liked what i played on PC but it was a mess)

[@James-gj8rn]

@@RegularEverydayNormalGuy yes sir!

[@oropher1234]

Both versions run very playable without raytracing.

[@Half-LifeAlyxNoVR]

Half-Life Alyx’s ending was a statement of intent.

[@BCBtheBeastlyBeast]

Still disagree with Oliver's take on PSVR2. I get the impression he just read some people saying it has no games and thought it must be true.

[@acurisur]

That's not what he said, he saw the industry reports that say Sony has cut a lot of the games they were going to make for PSVR2 and only has 2 in development right now. The headset didn't sell anywhere near as many units as Sony hoped on PS5 and most PSVR1 games still aren't compatible. RIVEN just got a VR version for PCVR and Quest, but no PSVR2 version, so if you want to play Riven on a PSVR2 you'd have to play it on PCVR.

[@BlackTone91]

​@@acurisur This industry report was made by known "insider" who makes couple bad reports on Playstation which later was debunked

[@s871-c1q]

It has games, like a few unique ones. I wouldn't exactly be crowing about it like its a success story. Seems to me he's right to be doubtful of the road ahead since all you hear is 1. it doesn't sell 2. layoffs and studio closures.

[@defeqel6537]

@@acurisur Not really sure what Sony expected from an expensive peripheral that they barely released any games / experiences for

[@BCBtheBeastlyBeast]

@@acurisur It's not literally what he said. But it's basically what he's said, and he's said similar things in recent videos.

[@mustang750r]

Everyone using the excuse that because PlayStation isn't pumping out VR games that means there aren't any games for PSVR2... Just stop. AND lol PlayStation as a whole hasn't pumped out as many titles as they have in the past. And yet we have amazing games like Legendary Tales, Ancient Dungeon, Cyube, and releasing tomorrow Compound on PSVR2. There's over 230 PSVR2 games released in less then 2 years.

[@BenGoodsonModular]

Tip-toeing around the AI issue helps nobody. AI will put creative people out of jobs. The people who are selling large language models do not give a single fuck about the people working in the affected industries. In fact, they think that perhaps those jobs have no need to exist. 'Democratising' AI to allow more people to generate creative work is not an answer to how people in those industries should be paid properly and treated better.

[@spyczech]

It's kind of missing me off because I could have made cool shit with AI I used to do game design years ago, but I thought i was doing a good thing sticking to my principles now it's okay? I just gotta "Democraticize" it what does that even mean

[@starbez]

Won't stop studios from using it

[@user-dv9up9rx2i]

Since the Luddites and the Looms and even before, technology has been replacing jobs. The problem was never technology, the problem was always the economic model that requires people to have jobs to avoid homelessness and starvation. No one has a right to get paid for the thing "they want to do". They find a job where someone wants to pay them to do something that's needed. There's so many socially important industries that are suffering staff shortages in many countries. Anyone who cares about people, who cares about art, should spend their energy advocating for some kind of "survival as an entitlement" economic system rather than railing against technology.

[@SPG8989]

Creative people will have to adapt like the rest of us. The woah is me starving artist is bs

[@StatusQuo209]

Or maybe, idk, people need to get with the times. The invention of the automobile, typewriter, etc also took TONs of jobs. I'm not saying that this is a good thing, but it is inevitable. You cant stop it, especially now since anyone can download Llama 3.1 and run it on their own computer.

[@stevebob240]

Love the PSVR2 on PC and PS5. My built in Bluetooth is fine for the most part, save a few momentary loss of tracking issues. Amazing experience so far on both platforms. I hope this isn't the end of the headset when it's only 1.5 years old, but I'll continue to love and play it anyway.

[@tim.fletcher]

Re: PS VR2 and PC: I had terrible Bluetooth connection issues with the controllers, but it seems entirely solved now. I have a Z390 Aorus Master motherboard where it has a WiFi/Bluetooth antenna. I updated to the latest Intel Bluetooth driver (22. something), removed and then re-added the controllers, and ensured no other Bluetooth devices are connected. And then, voila! It worked. I also move the antenna to the top of my PC case or on the desk in a clear spot, just in case. But, yes, I'm pretty happy now. It solved a lot of issues and now Half-Life Alyx is running excellently!

[@eapleitez]

No issues setting up PSVR 2 on my rig. Built in Bluetooth from my mobo working perfect. I must say, PSVR 2 is a significant upgrade over my Valve Index. I'm so happy with the result.

[@mat4246]

The most legendary CPU to me was AMD Duron Applebred (got it used in 2007 for like $40) on which I have connected an L2 bridge with a pencil to unlock L2 cache of 256KB instead of the base 64KB. After this operation, Windows was detecting it as Athlon XP. On top of that, the CPU was overclocking like crazy, I went from 1.4GHz (133x10.5) to stable 2.1GHz (210x10). Fantastic times.

[@drumjod]

I really appreciate all of the example clips Oliver puts in throughout the video to show visually exactly what's being talked about. The Final Fantasy XVI discussion section is a perfect example of nailing this.

[@Tzuau78]

Surprised you didn’t talk about the fact the PSVR2 PC adaptor sold out and was so hard to get? Maybe it was Australia only? But yeah… that wasn’t ideal either.

[@JKSmith-qs2ii]

I really wish we got the price cut on the PSVR2, I desperately want a OLED VR headset.

[@Willow-213]

Oliver is too funny trying to explain about his take with a new Half-Life title! Since Alyx has been released, the universe is real again.. So anything is possible!!

[@lumbardo1041]

The statement of losing another custom tech company regarding Ready at Dawn really resonates. Especially with the shift of developers going to Unreal Engine 5. It can really stagnate innovation, and it's nice to have games floating around that try something different. There was a small subset of people destroying on the creation engine when starfield released. Saying things along the lines of, 'Should have just gone with UE 5'. I think it's important that these developers keep creating and implementing their own solutions. I was also pretty disappointed when I heard CDPR was ditching REDEngine in favor of UE5 for The Witcher 4. I wouldn't doubt that a developer like CDPR would get a source license making the engine semi-custom, but we will have to see how it pans out.

[@RealComp5]

The code name for Alyx was Jamiricoi because of the song "Virtual Insanity".

[@TommyHe]

Two God of War titles on PSP are wonderful, and The Order was such an impressive title on PS4. Really sad to see its studio got shut down.

[@RyanMSwartz]

So a correction to Oliver regarding Riven: Cyan has indicated that a PSVR2 version is likely down the line. It wasn’t there at launch because the console ports are coming later (after the PSVR2 version of Firmament, which is due in a couple of months). Hard to have a PSVR2 version when the PS5 port is still in development.

[@eccentricbeing]

I think they're releasing this last gen version of Jedi Survivor to ride on the coat tails of Star Wars Outlaws. It's the only tactic that makes sense to me.

[@thiagovidal6137]

Why is the Bluetooth issue bizarre? In my experience that is how Bluetooth has always been. Sometimes it detects the device, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it connects, sometimes it disconnects, sometimes it doesn't connect at all, sometimes you need a specific dongle because a device won't work with the one you have. That's the history of Bluetooth. Its entire foundation is based on issues like that.

[@HH-zh2os]

The lack of VR knowledge or even willingness to check it out, is shocking for DF. Lone Echo is one of the cornerstone games. Asgard's Wrath 2 for being a mobile game that is technologically impressive was completely ignored. If video game technology is the focus of the channel that is.

[@leftctrlgaming]

That seems to be a lot of these KZbinrs,they all are so misinformed about VR,I go to VR channels for everything VR.

[@Coxy-b34]

15:39 Alex " What is the name of this engine ? " Rich " It's the Final Fantasy 14 engine massively retooled, isn't it ?" So dead pan when he says it. Don't ever change Richard.

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

The controversy around Zen 5 is overblown. People said the same thing about Zen 4 but really its 3D cache that matters.

[@oneanother1]

Not really, it had major hype even from and. Pretty much no point in upgrading to zen 5. Not sure if the x3d is going to be much better than zen4. Would be interesting if they put x3d on both CCD on the high end CPU. Was going to upgrade, but guess not.

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

@@oneanother1 Nope, the controversy is overblown. Zen 5 shows a noticeable improvement over Zen 4 and it's great to see good power efficiency. Everyone said the same thing about Zen 4. The 3D has already proven itself twice, so it's guaranteed 3D cache will do great on Zen 5.

[@tek1645]

@@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty What power efficiency? The 7700 runs at the same 65 watts and there is barely a difference in performance with the 9700x. Some games even run worse on the 9700x. Also the 9700x has a higher MSRP than the 7700's launch MSRP (and even bigger of a gap if you use current pricing).

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

@@tek1645 7700 is a non X and thus not worth considering. Lower clock speed. 9700X is much faster than it while keeping power usage low. That's efficiency. Games that run worse are entirely the games fault 100% of the time. MSRP is irrelevant because prices always go down after release.

[@xxsemb]

Shunting everything on to that KEX engine leaves a ton of 'old' fps now feeling wrong. Quake had weird physics and collision compared to the original, these doom updates feel off in places too.

[@Gravy1255]

Played Quake remaster and quake 2. Feels fine to me

[@MisterReen]

Is Alex married? He has a golden ring on his ringfinger.

[@walter_the_wobot2349]

Wrong hand.

[@Pavel-ib2rq]

​@@walter_the_wobot2349It is the correct hand in german speaking countries and some others.

[@SumoDogs]

Olie sounded like a joe rogan nutcase guest with all that hoop jumping for HL3

[@Decenium]

imagine if HL3 would once again push Physics forward, those dev videos from HL2 when they showed it on e3 to other devs is still so inspiring, truly a great time we just dont have anymore.

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

I got the adapter, hooked it up to my 4070s pre built from Best Buy, and played half life alyx for 2 hours room scale with a usb extender and didn’t have a single Bluetooth issue, I don’t understand don’t all pcs modern wise have Bluetooth? I have had many issues with Bluetooth using a regular gamepad in the past but I don’t think it’s the fault of the controller it’s more the fault of the pc imo.

[@lulkLogan]

Yeah, if you hook it up to USB 2 and use an extender to get it away from the PC, it gets a pretty clear signal.

[@lulkLogan]

Richard didn't notice the lack of a 90hz option with his 7900xt and the PSVR2? Hopefully John brings that bug up in his review. Seems to be a bug affecting most AMD cards

[@mmarshfairc3]

I don’t have Quest 3, only PS VR2 but I want them to put Riven on there so badly!!

[@JamesGadbury]

Zen 5 seems to be more about the efficiency improvements. I'd say it's a fantastic processor for a potentially cool, quiet laptop with good battery life. The 890M is also the best iGPU on the market right now.

[@oneanother1]

Zen 4 was already power efficient, low power draw is also power efficient even for Intel. My i5 12500 runs 45w max load. The point zen5 is its charging more for little to no gain in performance. Looks to be running a bottleneck with their chip design. Zero gains in gaming performance.

[@tek1645]

Not really. When you compare the 7700 which is 65 watts to the 9700x, there is barely a performance improvement. Instead you'll find a regression in value as the 9700x has a higher launch MSRP to the 7700.

[@JamesGadbury]

If I recall correctly, at lower powers, ~30W, the Zen 5 CPU is quite a bit more powerful than the Zen 4. Perhaps that's just the iGPU.

[@CakeMelons]

I would add Athlon XP 1700 among those legendary CPU's as well. Consumer friendly price, great oc potential, when oc'ed provided high-end CPU performance.

[@ymi_yugy3133]

I think the reason we are seeing these last gen ports is that they don't need to sell that well to turn a profit. Developing a AAA game takes millions of man hours, but porting and optimizing it for last gen, on an engine that already supports that platform well, is probably doable in a few 10k hours. So if sales on those platforms make like middle to high single digit percentage of overall sales, it's probably worth it.

[@Taorakis]

Correction here to Alex: You do NOT need an ID to sign the petition in Germany. You -can- use your online ID, but you can also just use your firstname, lastname + Address.

[@andresassine6584]

The closure of ready at dawn is particularly tragic, because their 2 big VR games (Lone Echo 1 and 2) were absolutely amazing AAA graphical and storytelling showcases but even within the VR community, a lot of people did not get the chance to play them because they were locked to meta's PC store and never sold on steam. Also, because these games were such graphical power houses, they were never ported to quest headsets when Meta started pivoting towards standalone VR.

[@knightsaber]

ALMOST 200 GUYS !! Let's Go !

[@notatechguy1209]

I will 100% be getting Jedi Survivor for Xbox One and PS4. I plan on getting every cross-gen game to make the comparisons in the future. Being able to port games like Callisto, Cyberpunk, Jedi Survivor, and all of these demanding games to last-generation hardware is a great feat. If they can get Jedi Survivor to run at anything close to reasonable settings they should be applauded.

[@lancealex382]

@rich - If modern cinema has taught us anything, it's that you can put the genie back in the bottle! You cannot however put the shit back in the horse! Well, not without a funnel, a festivities can do attitude and a Lot of ketamine!

[@lancealex382]

*Fastidious can-do

[@Johnjrambo75]

I really hope they fix the pc version of Jedi Survivor, it's such an excellent game.

[@samuxan]

One great thing about the EU is that it forces companies to do the are minimum logical things they should be doing regardless. It's like GDPR

[@SentinelBorg]

FFXIV got DLSS with 7.0, so FFXVI certainly will get it too. The engine btw is a very early fork of the Luminous renderer merged with some of the crystal tools that they used for FFXIV 1.0. Best call it the "Creative Unit 3 engine".

[@SpartanCarver]

Glad Alex isn’t holding back in regards to the state Jedi Survivor launched in because it was absolutely not acceptable

[@LunaticOnMeth]

I ran into similar controller connection issues when connecting the PS5 controller simultaneously with a second PS5 or PS4 controller when using my motherboard's built in bluetooth. The only thing that worked in the end was using a seperate TP-Link UB500 bluetooth adapter (the one I have is a slightly older model). This same adapter is now listed on Playstation's support page as a recommended bluetooth adapter for the PSVR controllers, meaning it's probably the same issue as with the regular controllers.

[@333335339]

I just beat Half Life Alyx on psvr2 using the adapter. I had a great time. I have a Lenovo laptop running RTX 270 with built in Bluetooth.

[@chrisbent5734]

John sitting this one out to dodge accent-gate.

[@charlesshamseldin9555]

Oliver you are a very intelligent and verbose person as I have never run into anyone who has used the word paucity in casual conversation. Love your command of language, it's a delight to hear. Or as I say in Zorkish: Maximum Verbosity.

[@NeoTechni]

At over $80 CDN, it should have included the proper bluetooth, and 2 USB-A ports to charge the controllers. Sony has a habit of not caring about charging their devices The PSP go dock should have has a USB port to charge the PS3 controller, especially since plugging it into the PS3 re-pairs it with the PS3 The PS 3DTV actually had a USB port to charge it's 3D glasses, but they hid the thing! Also, no mention of the new SNES Doom?