DF Retro Extra: Revisiting Xbox 360's E3 2005 Reveal!

[@Gaymerboi-nr3qo]

Digital foundry is such a irreplaceable channel and I’m so glad we have content like this.

[@MisterReen]

So true. It´s a joy always to see and hear their passion and engagement in all of their content.

[@turtleanton6539]

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[@jhearemedel]

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[@TheGabrielfaro]

Agreed

[@jemert96]

This is definitely one of those OG nerdy channels on YT and I love it. There's so many videogame channels that don't actually know anything about how videogames actually work

[@CAPDude44]

I don't think there is anything more 2004 than Elijah Wood presenting the new Xbox 360 on MTV.

[@TomNbk]

What a time that era was

[@Poever]

*2005

[@kevinchadwick9108]

I remember having an Xbox 360 slim back in the day and I decided one day to buy an hdmi cable and my god the difference I was blown away

[@guitarboy0211]

Omg ikr? I used the normal composite cable and I heard how an HDMI would make it better. I didn't really buy that since I thought what could a cable half the size do that mine can't do already? I remember booting up after putting in the HDMI and right after, the xbox logo looked smalled but was much sharper and everything was scaled well to a 1080p TV. Good times.

[@MrYodadrinkingsoda]

I remember the first game I played in HD on the 360 was Skyrim, and I remember being blown away at how crisp the text looked on the loading screen hahaha

[@kevinchadwick9108]

Danny D there always one stop being so negative

[@stopthisatonce]

Destiny did not run at 1080p. What are you on about? I think you need a DF refresher.

[@joethehitman4479]

I got the VGA cable. I swear that thing took away all the jaggies. I used to test HDMI vs the VGA and VGA was more crisp but HDMI had more color detail. I bought a flat screen in 2006 while stationed in Germany that supported it.

[@BobOfAllTrades]

I remember waiting second in line at Walmart for 11 hours to get one of these. They cut off everyone after 50 people as that was their stock. Walmart fed us pizza and Dr Pepper. Amazed that we were getting a 20gig hard drive and how impossible it seemed to fill it. Good times!!

[@nicolasmartinez4337]

Bob Of All Trades damn 11 hours?

[@interpol007]

I remember walking in to EBgames on the PS3 launch day, and bought a 60 gig and left in 5 minutes...... you know, sensible shit

[@BobOfAllTrades]

As I said, 50 units were available and they were turning people away. We just didn’t have enough to go around where I lived at the time. Same with the PS3. I waited on that a few years however. But if you didn’t wait in line or camp the night before you didn’t get one for quite awhile. Maybe a month or so.

[@Sceptonic]

Oh hi Bob

[@bswift1991]

20gb... phwoar. At least 4 games on that bad boy.

[@davelloyd820]

When this released I was working at the offices of Sony TV in Toronto and we had that HD CRT TV and one coworker had the 360 and we connected it with component cables. It was the first time I saw HD gaming. Game was perfect dark. I still remember how amazing it looked and how I was just mind blown at the quality

[@xFlared]

25 now. Was 11 when 360 was announced. Never been so hyped in my life, even to this day. Of course any enthusiasm about life dies really quickly as you grow. I remember the day I got one I felt like I was in a dream. It was unbelievable. Don't think there will ever be a console so advanced for its time as the 360 was. Got the red ring in 2008, send it in for 100 bucks to get it fixed and the issue was back in about a month. It's still laying in my closet in its original packaging. Every time I look at it I'm reminded of childhood and tear up a bit.

[@Masterchief12455]

Damn this hits hard

[@leonthesleepy]

Xbox 360 was 13 years ago? God damn we're getting old...

[@mightyhadi6132]

Gamer never get old.

[@BossBrownsugar]

Heroes never die

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

I'm just glad I wasn't born into the xbox one and ps4 era. PS2 being my first system ds and psp being my second and 3rd and then onto 360

[@G_Rad_Ski]

Try the age of the Atari 2600 bud

[@clarenceboddicker6679]

I was born at a very young age

[@BubblegumCrash332]

I forgot how much 2005 was still like the 90s

[@johnbrooks6243]

U also gonna forget how 2010s was like late 2000s

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

Times are always changing. It is weird though.

[@petemiller2598]

The random break dancing in the video was very of the era lol

[@EmoDKTsuchiya]

Pre smart phones is like the 90s

[@YaaSalty...0_o]

I miss it

[@gammat8248]

Xbox live in 2005 >> Nintendo switch online in 2018 Damn that’s embarrassing

[@zebare726]

More like xbox live in 2002.

[@XgamerdaveX]

True that.

[@sovietrussia3632]

What? That they held off on making people pay for playing online when you were already paying for your internet connection?

[@XgamerdaveX]

Soviet Russia I don’t get what your point is. Please explain?

[@sovietrussia3632]

@@XgamerdaveX they held off on making you pay for a service they gave for free til 2018 yet they say Nintendo should be embarrassed. Bit confusing. Pc master race anyway, no extra payments for stuff that should be free.

[@PlumbDrumb]

This is fantastic, guys. The fanboy battles between real-time Gears of War and the CGI Killzone footage I will never forget.

[@tchitchouan]

The Xbox 360 had a 3.2 GHz xenon cpu, 500 MHz ati xenos GPU and 500 mb of unified ram with 10mb of sdram for 2xmsaa and 48 unified shader pipeline, an absolute beast in its time and unbelievable to think it ran old gen version graphically demanding games such as GTA 5, Far Cry 4, MGS 5, rise of tomb raider and many more.

[@Abhinav-o9v]

Tchitchouan Inouane Same can be said about the PS3.

[@tchitchouan]

Evil Morty indeed but most of the time multiplats shined on 360 running at 720p 30fps whereas ps3 struggled a little to keep that 720p mark like in case of RDR 698p, on the other hand ps3 shined in exclusives Last of us and Uncharted 2 blow the 360 away !

[@Abhinav-o9v]

Tchitchouan Inouane Agreed. The Cell Processor was a real pain in the ass. And Bethesda games were the worst on PS3.

[@tchitchouan]

Evil Morty The cell processor had 6 individual ppu that each one of them had to be programed individually to take full power of the CPU which many devs didn't bother to do so from 2006 to 2009 complex games ran somewhat bad, it wasn't until uncharted 2 that showed the true power of the hardware, yet multiplats still looked and ran better on 360 except for really minor cases.

[@Abhinav-o9v]

Tchitchouan Inouane Naughty Dog is the best. The Last of Us 2 looks head and shoulders better than any upcoming game and my mind is blown when I think that the first Last of Us ran on a 2006 hardware. That game still holds up really well when compared to the current AAA games.

[@lynks8]

Haven't even watched this yet, but I KNOW I am going to love every single _second_ of it. *Please continue to do these for all major video game console releases.* There's just something about the history of consoles that's inexplicably, intoxicatingly interesting. I love revisiting these happy and exciting times in my past, of course, but more than that, I now find it even more compelling to learn about the tech that went into these, the R&D, the competition, the risk, the reward....it's like an unbelievably high-stakes sport. I can't get enough!

[@VGDocs]

19:26 "I just can't stop thinking about raytracing these days man" As weird as it may seem now, that comment one day will sound just as dated as this old 2005 trailer xD

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

😳

[@DylanFromAZ]

Remember when you can have a Netflix Party with your friends over XBOX Live? They should bring that back

[@frankiebeans8055]

Happiness Bunny I also remember you could burn your music cds on x box and play them with any game. Forza was best for that.

[@bissy97]

They did kind of. It's called Neflix Party and is done through a chrome extension.

[@Mickey2099]

I'm still playing 360 games on my Xbox One X

[@glitchman1272]

Mickey2099 being able to play Reach and the content complete version of ODST on Xbone is great

[@n_worder]

because there's nothing else?

[@fcukugimmeausername]

I've still got my 360 hooked up to my TV.

[@EnriqueStyle]

@@Meson10 dont feed the trolls

[@philipkempbell7174]

What else is there to play.

[@EposVox]

This was awesome. I remember they pushed the vertical standing capabilities of the 360 so hard and my very first 360 playthrough (Halo 3), the disc drive carved out the edge of the disc and ruined it halfway through the playthrough. No more vertical standing after that.

[@khhnator]

that was a issue with first 360 models, i think there was even a class suit about it and they gave replacement games and systems for people who had that issue

[@Christoph22KakaFan]

that just happened when you change it while the disc was running

[@Minnevan]

Another easy way to destroy your disks, even with a newer slim Xbox 360, was moving it around or tilting it at all with a disc running. Would immediately grind up the surface the of disk and ruin your game. R.I.P. my friends copy of Black Ops II

[@VividMac101]

My original copy of Call of Duty 4 was ruined and a couple other games too I think

[@Tweaked818]

Lmfao i remember my disk drive in the later years would ruined my games and carve out a perfect ring in the center. I ruined my neighbors copy of waw

[@DarkKnight896]

Aside from RRoD the 360 was such a damn good console. Staying up late playing Oblivion, Mass Effect, GoW etc will always be in back of my head making me feel super nostalgic, guess I gotta start building that collection back up.

[@DarkKnight896]

Word, already have high end gaming PC. Just trying to collect all the old consoles etc.

[@lovelorn88nick]

Lmfao. I went through 3 of these sorry ass systems. And countless hours on the phone with Microshit. Never again will I give them money. I was honestly shocked when they released the xboxone. I figured after the 360 they would pull out of gaming

[@omgoat]

ps3 had its ylod

[@lovelorn88nick]

@@omgoat lmfao. Ok.

[@lovelorn88nick]

@Ioannis Stf yeah I really dont understand why people defend the 360. The only reason it stayed afloat is because Microsoft can take the hit. If this had been Sega it would be all over

[@MovieBulldog]

The golden years of xbox.

[@lofi1598]

xbox days will be back dont worry bro

[@noobdebusca1757]

RROD was Golden years???? No way!!

[@nicolasmartinez4337]

salim bouraoui lets hope

[@lovelorn88nick]

Lmfao golden years??? This was the worst console. I'll never understand fan boys. I went through 3 of these and countless hours on the phone with Microshit 'support'

[@lovelorn88nick]

@@noobdebusca1757 right? I'll never get why people continued to support this awful company. I was shocked when they released the xbox1. I figured they'd stop after the 360. I went through 3 of those awful consoles

[@Baleur]

26:00 Man i LOVED that old dashboard UI. So cozy. And the themes. Everything.

[@BossBrownsugar]

I remember the excitement surrounding the Xbox 360 back in high school. I wonder if kids today feel that same excitement for current/upcoming consoles?

[@pegasusdrive12]

At least my circle is very excited each generation.

[@Nighthawk268]

Shoot I remember the graphical leap from NES to SNES.. Remastered original Mario bros all stars was the biggest jaw drop for me at the time. But going into the era of 3D gaming for the first time with N64.. something sadly I'll never excperie again. Even the jump to HD wasn't enough to capture that amazingly enough. Glad I grew up in the 90s/early 2000s.

[@drunkensailor112]

@Caffeinated Critic pc is same thing. The revolution in graphics is just over. Last time I was blown away was the dreamcast and currently only VR does that.

[@ottolehto]

@@drunkensailor112 Yes, I just played Resident Evil 7 on PSVR, and that gave me the same sense of amazement that the old console launches used to. It's getting rarer thanks to the plateauing of graphical power.

[@charizardoreo]

Switch launch was pretty big but that had Breath of the Wild I guess

[@teedee9393]

Oh god, the nostalgia hit I'm getting from this. Thank you for making these, DF.

[@DarthRavan2012]

I think Alex was thinking about Soul Calibur IV with PlayStation having Darth Vader and Xbox having Yoda.

[@sebbo128]

Or maybe Soulcaliber III, which released in 2005. The GameCube version had Link, Heihachi Mishima was on PS2, and Spawn on the Xbox.

[@nolancounts6790]

SoulCalibur 2 Had Link on Gamecube, Heihachi on PS2, and Spawn on Xbox. SoulCalibur 3 was PS2 exclusive and had no guest character. SoulCalibur 4 had Vader On PS3 and Yoda on 360, and Starkiller on both, Yoda and Vader were made available as DLC on both platforms.

[@turtleanton6539]

@@nolancounts6790 correct and 5 had asscreed and 6 had geralt

[@GhostOdyssey]

The Xbox 360 era was something truly special. Many a cherished memories to be had -- I absolutely loved it. Even when I learned of the fact that Microsoft had set aside 1.5 billion for the Red Ring Of Death malfunctions, which happened to both of my consoles and an E74 error on the newer models. Damn, thinking back now, the RROD would have most certainly severely crippled any other company. Yet the legacy still lives on, that's some testament of the brand, alright, especially, in the eyes of the consumers.

[@legend123meme8]

When the Xbox brand was the symbol of good exclusives. I miss the old times.

[@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg]

Klumsy Kameleon yep definitely, and the way sony is going at it. This gen is most likely going to be the just like the ps2 to ps3 upgrade. Sony is just being greedy right now and they seem to be forgetting that history likes to repeat itself..

[@Elementox-im1tm]

You should know that the Xbox actually have Windows build in. You can choose either pc or Xbox. Without windows forget it. Impossible. So Xbox still has exclusive together with pc.

[@yorha9949]

@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg I don't really care what happens, but if it ends up like PS3 Sony will be dead. Playstation is what's keeping them alive. And from how it looks Xbox will have the better hardware and it already has the best online port. All they need are exclusives.

[@madfinntech]

I think Microsoft made better and actually good games when they made PC games. That was before Xbox.

[@hazzadorgamin1219]

Elemento14x2138 Just like Sony street fighter,bloodborne,nioh,yakuza and & many more on PC but I guess people forget to mention tht.

[@HarshVardhan-xf9sc]

The era when Xbox was at its best!

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

gaming in general, 2005 is seen as one of the best years in gaming

[@eliminator1492]

Glory days of Xbox.

[@GreatBroly]

Until Kinect arrived...

[@19coyote5oh9]

@Mega Drive They Kinnect was garbage and just Microsoft's attempt at the Wii market. Fast forward to today and the Kinnect is completely DEAD, while the PS Move is still being used and sold for VR. So what was a "fail" again?

[@19coyote5oh9]

@@GreatBroly The era of the Kinnect was the beginning of the downward spiral for Xbox.

[@peruprofundodance]

Still play my x360. Great console and games. 😉

[@MostlyPennyCat]

I still play my 360 library on my X1. I seem to have lost my 360?

[@baki484]

Bro same my parents keep saying sell it I say nah the 360 awesome stuff right there hopefully the Microsoft bounces back next Gen and I'm speaking as a Playstation fan

[@geneprogamer3936]

Same love my 360

[@sarge2335]

Just play xbox 360 games on xbox 1

[@madfinntech]

Nah. Low frame-rates. Nothing great about them.

[@ayylmao8562]

The Xbox 360 was a cultural phenomenon, you weren’t cool growing up if you didn’t have one, it influenced television and film and it was the first time we had online play for the masses. I remember how exciting it was to play online with your friends and how new it felt.

[@malcolmholmes2596]

In murica anyway.

[@Kysen10]

Early 360 when MS cared about their 1st party output

[@batterysurf]

my 360 from 2006 still functions to this day.

[@batterysurf]

After the electricity went out and came back in 2011, my console got rrod for a few minutes. I just unplugged and replugged hoping it will be fixed and surprisingly it did.

[@GraveUypo]

mine died in 2007. then i bought another one in 2008. that one died in 2013. but by then i already had another one i bought in 2010, that still works and will probably last for a long time still (it's the black angular remodel one)

[@eliminator1492]

I have a Falcon from 2008 and it still works.

[@SunCityGamer]

Your mom's vibrator form 1976 still functions too😉

[@cheappyv5156]

batterysurf why do some people's still work and most's - don't?

[@dreammfyre]

34:40 Jumps straight into the most obviously stuntman replaced scene of all time. Thanks MS. And seriously... I get more excited watching this than anything from a recent E3. There's something visionary about this that's completely lacking in gaming today. Everything has been done before, and it's all about monetisation and cynicism.

[@MFMArt]

@DigitalFoundry John mentions the final fantasy tech demo at 1:12:40 , this was Project Rapture, it was used as an early development phase for the original Final Fantasy XIV (now A Realm Reborn). My guess was that was how they wanted to render city hubs at larger detail than FFXI, and FFXIV being very inspired by XI at first makes it make more sense.

[@Micromacer]

The Xbox 360's reveal is one of the best console reveal ever

[@Poever]

Kenny MacCormick the MTV one? No way

[@joethehitman4479]

Original Xbox had the greatest console launch in history though. That line up was amazing.

[@demetriuspowell29]

No it's not pussy

[@Poever]

Joe TheHitman far cry, actually. Halo was the best thing it had going, but then there was drek like Shrek and Fusion Frenzy

[@Micromacer]

lmao I dont even have a 360 now. That's just what i thought. 'ONE OF'.

[@dreammfyre]

These games still look effin great to me. Diminishing returns and all that... And experience, immersion wise, and just general wow-factor, nothing this gen have come even close to the peaks from last gen for me. New Vegas, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Burnout Paradise, RDR and even something as GTA4, are untouched. Yes, games look better these days, but they feel increasingly like they were design by a committee with only marketability and revenues in mind, and they all have this blandness and formulaic feel to them that I absolutely cannot stand. Hopefully, the increase in CPU power next gen will actually give us some generational leaps in other eras than just the surface... but then again, we're still dealing with the same greedy-ass companies...

[@GraveUypo]

you can expect a three-fold increase in cpu processing power compared to the pro/x for the next gen, and four times for the base consoles. i expect the next consoles to get a 3-ish ghz ryzen 16 threaded octacore as opposed to a 1.6~1.75ghz pseudo-octa with half the IPC of a ryzen.

[@chriswright8074]

@@GraveUypo 2700 runs at 65 watts

[@GraveUypo]

it's not going to be a 2700, that's 12nm. the cpu is going to 100% sure be 7nm. and lower clocked than a 2700, so probably more like 25w

[@chriswright8074]

@@GraveUypo don't think so as 2700 will be cheaper to buy in bulk but who knows

[@SpiraResident72017]

Yep, the last generation was outstanding if not the best. And I started with the super nintendo

[@DatGameCollector]

Great trip down memory lane guys. I love the og xbox and early 360 days. Xbox original was the first console I bought with my own money so its still one of my favorite consoles. I remember watching this video live back in the day. 360 was so great when it dropped. Oblivion ruled my life along with NFS most wanted , kameo and perfect dark. If only the current xbox team shared the passion the early team had. So many great ip's lost to time. EDIT: The blades were awesome.

[@redcrimson1028]

I was saying the same thing

[@thel1355]

The caves in Oblivion use parallax occlusion mapping on Xbox 360. I remember, because it was the first time I'd ever seen it. I didn't know what I was looking at, but it was mesmerising.

[@AngryKurtz86]

I miss the blades so much. Best console interface ever

[@kyus1974]

i remember playing pgr3 demo in a department store, couldnt believe how good it looked.

[@SiStockbridge]

Fight Night Round 3 was the game that blew me away. At the time that looked soo good!

[@TKsh1]

Xbox 360 is and will always be a classic console! Great games, great multiplayer, great everything! Good thing I still play it.

[@cheappyv5156]

Even though it had a disaster with RROD, it was a so much better console than ONE, in all aspects 😔

[@ChristianVezina]

ALL ASPECTS? including hardware reliability lol?

[@princeofdarkness4711]

@@ChristianVezina the 360 slim fix all those aspects. Xbox One still couldn't keep up... 360 for life man

[@strykah92]

@@ChristianVezina nostalgia is a hell of a drug. I even see people say the 360’s controller was better than the Xbox One’s, and I’m like, with that D-Pad? The play and charge kit? The proprietary headset jack? The 360 had a better library, but the One certainly had better hardware.

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

The Xbox 360 was one of the best thought out consoles ever created. The Scaler chip allowed you to literally plug in any monitor/screen on the planet and it looked great. Also, system link/ split screen kept many games playable even today. Compare those features to this generation from both Sony and MS. System link is literally non existent in most titles as well as split screen. At least MS Xbox One can utilize 720p, 1080p, 1440p and 4k and controller batteries can more easily be changed on the fly...literally in 10 seconds. Great video, like my PS3, but absolutely love the Xbox 360.

[@flyingplantwhale545]

All fantastic. Until it dies.

[@SeeASquaRE]

I love my Xbox 360. I brought the Slim version way back in 2011. Even though I game nowadays mostly on my PC. I come back now and then to play Halo or Gears of War.

[@gabrieleriva651]

I bought a 500Gb E in 2014, just before the BC announcement ;)

[@Clay3613]

Did you buy a slim because the original broke?

[@SeeASquaRE]

@@Clay3613 No. I actually had a Wii. But you know the novelty of having motion controls ran out pretty quickly.

[@cmatista1]

that square tech demo at the end eventually became the social area for ffxiv’s 4th expansion in 2019, 14 years after this conference!

[@H.L.S.98]

17 years of age when this came out. Me and my friends were at that sweet point in your life when you can finally afford to buy ya own console! (After saving money working part time jobs). So much hype going into it. And they were very low in stock here in the uk. But me and my buddies lined up at midnight at Tesco’s and managed to snag one each. Great days. Until I got home and played perfect dark zero 😆

[@turtleanton6539]

😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ridiculous_gaming]

The Xbox 360 was the only console that supported literally every resolution besides 4k. This machine also scaled extremely well on literally everything it was plugged into being a plasma, PC LCD or CRT monitor or HD TV. I miss those days.

[@SlyBeast]

I LOVED the blades. I wish MS would do some kind of throwback blades dashboard for X1.

[@MrSoloDolo001]

Agreed wish their was a way to personally customize your dashboard.

[@icy1007]

Why is the audio so quiet in this video? I had to crank my volume up in order to hear Rich or Alex.

[@gabrieleriva651]

Actually in 2006 the OGXbox received Halo 2 expansions, OutRun 2006, Splinter Cell Double Agent, some great games.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yup

[@gameguy301]

you can actually see the consoles becoming more similar with each generation / iteration. PS2 / Xbox = Sony/Toshiba emotion engine vs intel + nvidia PS3 / 360 = IBM/Sony Cell + nvidia vs IBM PowerPC + ATI PS4 / Xbone = AMD jaguar APU GDDR5 vs AMD jaguar APU DDR3 PS4 PRO / XboneX = AMD jaguar APU vs AMD jaguar APU PS5 / Xbox4 = AMD Ryzen + Navi APU vs AMD Ryzen + Navi APU ??? thats what seems to be in the cards at-least.

[@otalogeek7201]

41:15 Great moment, at the time, a real tidal wave, with Blue Dragon! Kameo, Lost Odyssey, Gears, PGR and Blue Dragon, this crazy console as soon as it's announced!

[@eraezr]

What was that sketch omitted by M.S?

[@Nemesis2K]

Was it not the bill gates vs Steve balmer sketch?

[@CarlMylo]

Look up "Steve Ballmer and Bill Gates E3 2005 Xbox 360". It shows up but it's in really bad quality.

[@SuperRosso1000]

Thanks for the reply!

[@khhnator]

and we are better for it

[@bytesizedreviewz2931]

Oblivion was the reason for buying a 360 I remember trading all my PS2 games along with the PS2 just to play it. Then I received the dreadful red ring of death. Where's my red ring of death squad?!

[@OrtadragoonX]

Went through 3 of them over the years.

[@mettana7448]

I wish EPIC had saved Unreal Championship 2 for the 360. It would have made a great 360 launch title.

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

Mettana The already moved on to Gears.

[@mrrumncoke2984]

Microsoft bring back the PGR series, seriously. I know the studio is no longer but I'm sure there is a studio out there. I recon Playground could do it.

[@mrrumncoke2984]

@@KUPOkinz haha I see what you did 😊 Honestly though it baffles me that they don't revisit this series.

[@mrrumncoke2984]

@@KUPOkinz Exactly the PGR games had that perfect balance of handling, it just felt great. Forza for me has seriously gone down hill since 4, it just doesn't resemble a simulation any more. I miss the PGR days on Xbox live.

[@mrrumncoke2984]

@@MrSquifler Open world racing games don't appeal to me so no thanks, plus it's Forza physics again, so all cars feel like breeze blocks and feel like your driving in jam

[@Poever]

They won’t, Forza is their bread and butter racer now

[@mrrumncoke2984]

@@MrSquifler Mainly yes, cars feel completely dumbed down, Forza does not interest me, for Sims I use PC and rFactor2. I just want a crazy arcade racer again with awesome visuals and fun physics in the vein of the PGR games that you can just chill online with a pad on the sofa

[@nickheerschap7237]

Timeshift totally works on a windows 10 machine. I had it running with 4k DSR and reshade. Godsdamned ambient occulsion too. Fire your tech guy and hire me.

[@cheappyv5156]

more "historical" videos like this, please!

[@nalong55]

That Blade/Tab Interface for Xbox was the best.

[@tatsumaru12345]

Seeing Call of Duty 2 running at 60fps, looking as good as it did. Sold me the 360. This after my old ati 9700 pro barely did 30-40fps at lower settings.

[@cyphaborg6598]

That was a huge selling point indeed,when Call of Duty still had campaigns :P

[@VividMac101]

I remember the launch of the Xbox 360. I wanted one so bad but every store was out of stock and I mean every store. The stock drought lasted for what seemed like an eternity. I played Call of Duty 2 at Future Shop (Canada, RIP Future Shop) on a 720p Samsung HDTV and I was absolutely amazed at the graphics and how crisp it was. I couldn’t believe it and I had to have one. However due to it being out of stock everywhere for what seemed like forever, I got a 720p TV for Christmas 2005 instead and then for Christmas 2006 I got an Xbox 360. So many memories playing Call of Duty 2, Gears of War 1, Rainbow Six Vegas, Halo 3 and of course lots more.

[@ronjonsurf39]

this brings me back lol. rented gears of war from the blockbuster and i immediately bought it after my time was up. i was hooked. kinda makes me feel like a junkie fondly remembering their first hit

[@KhromTX]

Ya'll sort of complained about this in the Xbox One reveal for the lack of in-depth tech specs, but I think some of you sort of forget that people caring about tech specs and hardware was pretty niche back then and consumers didn't care like they do today. It simply wasn't a huge deal for mainstream consumers back then. This sort of changed with the xbox one where they show and discuss the specifications, but even then it wasn't super specific. Now in this generation, they go pretty in depth during the conference with CPU architecture, RAM specs, SSD specs and more. I think a large part of it is just how PC gaming exploded more recently, and there being millions of more gamers now than there were even just a few years ago.

[@riaz8783]

Man, if you guys do a Retro Extra of the conference that gave us the Giant Enemy Crab, massive damage and Riiiiidge Racer that would make my year.

[@chickenwings6172]

First off kid all that stuff was PS3 and second 2005 is not fucking retro, retro is the 90's lol

[@jeremyjulkowski4844]

Went through at least a half dozen 360 consoles thanks to the infamous "Red Ring Of Death" before MS refined the engineering of the console with the Falcon Chipset design and then came out with the subsequent slim 360 that I still possess to this day. Those were dark days 15 years ago!

[@petermokran381]

Its funny how people to this day cant figure out why x box was called 360. It is not that you need to spin around in 360 degrees. I think microsoft wanted the xbox 360 to be the center of everything meaning that no matter where you are (east, south, west , north) every time you will be dragged to center and in the center is your xbox.

[@N-e.o]

and now they offer basically nothing but maybe One game a year with the Xbox One

[@GraveUypo]

it's actually because the playstation was about to get into its third installment and microsoft felt like launching an xbox "2" would make it seem more outdated. so they picked a number that also started with 3 and then made up excuses for that.

[@dushikorsou1]

@@GraveUypo so for the actuall third one they thought lets put a one in the name lol

[@jimmyjamwhambam]

It's actually 360degrees of gaming, as in the 360 has all angles covered.

[@jedikv]

Anyone remember what the sketch at 36:42 was? I cannot find it in other VoDs of this conference

[@halofreak1990]

So, let me get this straight; Peter Moore and Don Mattrick end up swapping places and Xbox takes a dive as a result? Evil, Actually at it's best.

[@shaundavidssd]

If Peter more teamed up with Phill Spenser ,it would be dangerous

[@cheshirekershaw]

You’re probably my favorite reaction channel.

[@ZeBoy85]

Where did it all go wrong? This was brilliant marketing, Xbox gave us the best generation ever because of this. Here’s hoping they can do the same again this time around.

[@SeikenFreak]

The concept render at 1:12:41 is essentially the first showing of what would become Final Fantasy 14 in Sept 2010. It is *just* a concept, as the game didn't quite end up looking like that, but the structure and locale in that demonstration is loosely represented in the sea side city of Limsa Lominsa which can be seen in the 1.0 release version and is still there in the current version.

[@WickedlNl]

On the topic of why they showed some games with single frames that looked choppy...even though true, as a gamer back than i and probably most people didnt notice that. We were just blown by the graphics, great marketing. Back than only the Pros would comment on frame rate. It just wasnt much of a topic as it is now since the graphical advancements were much bigger back then. Today we just expect it has to be either 60fps or 4k to blow us away.

[@donalkennedy6393]

Well, it took three months but I finally finished this video! Worth it.

[@justingoretoy1628]

I wish they would do a technical breakdown of Perfect Dark Zero.

[@thiagovidal6137]

The motion blur in Dead or Alive 4 was actually in the game but not in game. You would have the motion blur when using the photo mode. After capturing a photo, it would render motion blur. So the pictures released although misleading, was a feature that was in the game.

[@KyudoKun]

If only I could turn back time and enjoy this 7th Gen awesomeness from 2005, I'll do it.

[@Jarmundx]

25:55 What John was trying to reference is Skeumorphism UI design where the interface tries to imitate "real life" in a sense hence the shading, soft look to things and textures like metal or glass. Nowadays the industry strives for the most minimalists of designs which is fine by me, i love a clean easy to understand UI but... I'll miss the wonky aesthetic of yesteryear.

[@Screamin_Demon]

I got Timeshift working at 4K 60 Ultra. The trick is you just have to ignore all the pop ups when you install and run it.

[@LonkiGames]

Love these long DF videos! Good job guys!

[@mightyhadi6132]

Xbox 360 were two step a head back then (before kinect and RROD), while Xbox One were 10 step back .

[@P4C800d]

I love hearing Ridge Racer in the background. :)

[@Jpilgrim30]

Crazy how bad games looked when looking back in time. I remember walking into Best Buy and they had the 360 demo playing and I was so blown away at time I bought one on the spot.

[@apocalypse369]

I was 16 working at Walmart when this and the ps3 and Wii launched and I remember the long line ups outside after work. I saved up enough to buy a 360 that year good times

[@agnel47]

23:00 the word you are looking for is micrometer.

[@orijimi]

And now that's just the name of a tool.

[@blindingshadows]

Its too bad the skit that was omitted in this video is the one that truly started the Terraflop wars. Such an important moment in history that needs to be preserved.

[@Reason4Termination]

14:48 "yeahh.. the certain aspects of the physics haven't aged particularly well" - Richard Leadbetter on X360 boob physics Quite an astute observation my good sir! I like your taste!

[@arootube]

He was talking about the hair physics.

[@Losveterani]

This is a great Sunday: a new Game Sack and DF Retro Extra video to watch.

[@Arclitas]

Im still waiting on Masterchief Collection update analysis!!

[@throwaway9218]

Also, really appreciate these all-week releases of content. Thanks guys

[@introvertedperson007]

19:06 you got me lol ray traced reflections

[@Lorfarius]

This was fantastic, hope you do more!

[@arcticridge]

1 hour and 17 minutes jesus John are you trying to kill us?! *sigh* let me just say goodbye to the kids..

[@KagatoAsuka]

Can we talk about 1:15:43 what is this game I think it was cancelled and never released unless I just missed it.

[@nO_d3N1AL]

I remember playing PGR 3 in 2008 and being gobsmacked by the graphics. It's still one of my all-time favourite racing games.

[@hauntedhotdog]

Long before I had an hdtv, I used that VGA adapter to experience the higher resolution provided by the 360 and I loved it. It was a very unconventional move, and I was really happy Microsoft supported it at launch. When Gears of War was released, playing it on my computer monitor blew my mind.

[@TheLWebb100]

Condemned and COD 2 were awesome launch titles.

[@MA-rf6bu]

Xbox absolutely owned this generation of consoles, it was seen as the futuristic cool console due to it’s online capabilities.

[@icy1007]

Xbox Live is still “silver” for the free membership and “gold” for the paid membership.

[@Zakmakoto]

How nostalgic ! @John: About the interjection you showed near the end of the video, you may already know but it's actually called "Project Rapture". Project Rapture was an engine developped internally for SE next MMO to replace FFXI and reusing old assets from it, it ultimately became Final Fantasy XIV 1.0

[@neosrt10]

I was first in line grabbed 3 of these 2 with HD cables 1 with composite I was a big fan of Amds Radeon and Xbox so buying then both was awesome then to see Halo 2 enhanced and then Gears of War running on 512 mb of Unified system memory ..mind blown Ps3 had nothing on it .

[@Darkangel754]

It's insane when you compare that initial 2005 COD2 showing to something like Advanced Warfare from 2014 on the same system.

[@DDT-lr3zz]

BO1 has better graphics than AW on X360

[@CuriousChronicles82275]

Dead or alive 4 still looks prettier than part 5 and playing doa4 today still looks great than even tekken 7 street fighter 5 combined. Graphics wise.

[@AnitaHanjaabFR]

no it doesn't lol

[@eliminator1492]

@referral madness because DOA 4 was exclusive to the Xbox 360 and for that reason Bungie did it.

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

1:12:44 Interesting fact: this is the original design/footage of Limsa Lominsa. from FF14