DF Retro EX: PlayStation 4 Reveal Revisited - Defining A Console Generation

Join John Linneman, Rich Leadbetter and Alex Battaglia for a minute-by-minute commentary of the ORIGINAL PlayStation 4 reveal way back in 2013. How good was the presentation? What technologies were revealed - and which of them never made it to the system? And yeah... Killzone Shadow Fall still looks great today, right?
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[@andreabeccarisi1126]

Ps4 aged very well all things considered. Currently playing games such as GoW and RdR2, people don't realise they are running on a 7-year old piece of hardware. And don't forget about the upcoming TLOU2. Just amazing

[@Sephyroth97]

it's even older than that because it was already outdated by the time it came out.

[@Edmundostudios]

@@Sephyroth97 Ps4 had like a 7950? Was fairly modern at the time.

[@OrjonZ]

​@@Edmundostudios Cut down 7870.

[@V3ntilator]

I have PS4, but i prefer playing all third party games on Xbox One X instead including RDR 2 etc. PS4 is too dated for most third party games. I i want framerate boost, i play on my gaming PC instead which runs Xbox exclusives at 90-120 fps.

[@bigboyhova]

The ram ans gpu makes it age well, its still good for todays standards.

[@nelsoncabrera6464]

I can't believe it has been seven years . Its feels as if it was just yesterday I was making popcorn and sitting on my couch to watch the reveal streams.

[@Lonthor]

Tell me about it. Feels like yesterday when I put Killzone Shadow fall in my PS4 for the first time.

[@selfelements8037]

Quite definitely. It took a bit of resistance for the public to accept the idea of integrated graphics at the time, but look at what AMD has achieved now. Over 10 teraflops of brute force on a single APU. That's absolutely genius!

[@breadtube_king5744]

Eh, doesn't feel like that to me

[@JoshMarshain]

@@breadtube_king5744 yeah I was about to say it feels like its been a while, maybe not a whole 7 years and more like 5 years but it doesn't feel like this was that recent

[@Buzz_1991]

I played some games like Killzone 3 just an hour before the started and man... It was so good to watch it live. It really paid of.

[@LudwigsUnholySpade]

I love the little flex from Richard. The next day everyone left, but I stayed to hang out with the tech team and they gave me a presentation 😎

[@BlueisNotaWarmColour]

I have a secret about the Watch Dogs demo and it's a doozy but nobody else can hear it 😎

[@LudwigsUnholySpade]

@@BlueisNotaWarmColour oh god I'm dying to hear that scoop!

[@StrazdasLT]

@@LudwigsUnholySpade Heres the scoop: AMD abandoned developement support midway so Ubisoft had to ask Nvidia for help.

[@asimb0mb]

That Killzone gameplay still looks absolutely gorgeous. I remember being blown away when I first saw it.

[@ArtrexisLives]

@@RagingUtai Agreed. That KZ2 trailer floored me.

[@tipoomaster]

And as the story goes, most of that was built expecting 4GB of GDDR5 rather than the 8 it later got. Sure the game's beauty was only skin deep, but I hope they eventually reboot Killzone.

[@peterfox6159]

I really think GG is such a great studio and both of their PS4 titles are absolutely gorgeous! To me, "Killzone: Shadow Fall" still is the most beautiful shooter on PS4. But I am not really a shooter game aficionado. And if Crytec had made a 4th Crysis title I would put t in 2nd place. But it is really, really beautiful!

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

killzone shadow fall still holds up pretty well even today

[@AaronRoydhouse]

The Killzone intro and the first missions with that open level were amazing. The need to actually have a strategy as a player, rather than just follow-the-corridor was a breath of fresh air. I felt it dropped off heavily after that with uninspired paint-by-numbers stages to pad it out to a full game. I guess after they did the amazing work on the beginning and had no time left to make the launch date and rushed out the rest. I wish they had had another year to make a whole game to the quality of the beginning.

[@HorseheadNebula85]

"It's only taken us 48 minutes to get here..." Rich cracks me up!

[@tipoomaster]

Richard 'Enough of this Levity' Leadbetter

[@Hyf5]

oh god, 2013 is retro now? i had just finished highschool, how time flies.

[@dlbutters7164]

For the teenagers at Digital Foundry, 2013 was ages ago, doood!

[@AidGum]

I began high school in 2013.

[@mudflap2020]

I was a sophomore in highschool 😩... Now i just graduated with my bachelor's

[@coreyhoffarth2309]

@Moogle Midgar Retro as in retrospective as in taking a look back at past events

[@zonzore]

Yes it's retro because they are taking a retrospective look at a past event.

[@TxMondrey]

“Where does the name come from”. Richard -“Well who knows and who cares” priceless 😂😂

[@Bones_]

I think we can all assume that the name comes from Knack making himself larger by assimilating many "knick knacks" and then they just truncated it into knack. Richard's answer is still better though.

[@TommyVercettisGamingNews]

Knack! Who knows and who cares.

[@daringintrovert]

Unlocked Richard is the best Richard

[@KaiSchSp]

PS5 reveal delayed? Lets just watch the PS4 reveal again! ^^

[@notosamabinladen3523]

@One Thou Wou I'll watch your kid

[@jasonsmith530]

Best thing for them to do

[@DJVEGAS1000]

When is the reveal. Is there a date?

[@rare6499]

Smooth operator they’ve not confirmed a new date yet but can’t be too far away...!

[@Safetytrousers]

The postponed presentation only promised a look at games, they made no mention of any console reveal.

[@TVideoCZ]

I made it until the end, it was nice to see it again after so many years.

[@issen2291]

PS4 is now DF "Retro", holy shit.

[@logbobtom1234]

Nobody is calling PS4 retro lol

[@pferreira1983]

Not quite.

[@ArjanTV]

@@logbobtom1234 the reaon why thy dont is because they still using one .. way till pa5 comes out

[@logbobtom1234]

ShadowBocksin perhaps...

[@karbonianload]

Let's go a 2+ hour DF video uploaded just in time to stop me from doing any work, thank you DF

[@WeeWeeJumbo]

Karbonian Load this feels like a surprise gift. The twenty dollars you forgot you had

[@XgamerdaveX]

I love how Mark Cerny presents. His GDC road to PS5 talk earlier this year was captivating. I hung onto his every word. And I learned so much.

[@christophluger793]

He's very good at presenting and obviously developing.

[@adamiadamiadami]

deep down gets me every time.

[@peterGchaves]

Me too. Those particle effects and physics are super impressive still today!!

[@mero4ever]

Same here

[@skittletoes7260]

OCASM why do you think it never came out? PS4 couldn’t do it lol

[@michaelshahoe]

@@skittletoes7260 Deep Down's engine was terrible. They eventually focussed on the RE engine and other games. Deep Down may look pretty but it most likely ran as Fall Out 76 or even worse.

[@SteelSkin667]

There's still a chance that they'll pull a Nioh and resume work on it at some point.

[@kingotime8977]

They've made it until 49:23 before mentioning Crysis!

[@2rue]

Mark Cerny is really happy to finally present the work he has done. He seems genuinely excited, nothing like a business presenter.

[@christophluger793]

Simply proud of his work. I admire that.

[@kylerclarke2689]

I love how much fun you guys seem to have with these things. The Mark Cerny (Cerni?) ASMR had me close to tears from laughing

[@Ample17]

Cerny :)

[@MI2Dragon86]

These videos REALLY make you FEEL like you have friends.

[@ben-2368]

Let’s be honest that’s why we’re all here.

[@StrazdasLT]

@@ben-2368 Im here because DF guys are walking encyclopedias when it comes to videogames.

[@Jambobist]

That Killzone sequence still looks way better than most of the games coming out today, Guerilla are wizards.

[@EeekiE]

It’s why focussing solely on the hardware is naive. Good graphics comes from talented engineers and artists more than it does from minor differences in compute power.

[@thefilmdirector1]

@@EeekiE somewhat true, BOTW is one of the best looking games this gen, but even so, theres stuff in there you could drop into an N64 game and it would be right at home, the Switch can only do so much. Not to mention the resolution and jaggies everywhere. No different for PS4, take a PS4 only game and give it a top tier PC to run on and you can boost the artists skills to another level, its why people shouldnt be hyped for that UE5 demo "running on a ps5" (its not and even if it is that demo tops the system out leaving no space for actual gameplay, npcs, scripted events etc etc etc)

[@H.E.M.]

Idk what games you’re playing in 2020. Because it doesn’t. Also is 40fps and plays like an last gen game.

[@VenomSnakeMGS]

I mean it looks good, but new PS4 games look way better. RDR2, God of War, Last Of Us 2, Ghost of Tshumia, FF7R, all of those games look way better than Killzone lol.

[@gulfamashraf]

@@VenomSnakeMGS I agress with venom snake

[@SteamPunk96]

This was a great time, watched the whole thing rather than listening to it in a podcast-esque kinda way which is rare for me with such a long video, thanks for sitting down together and making this lads.

[@Immaustine]

Made it all the way to the end. I love these, I had recently gone back to the PS3 and Xbox one reveals.

[@Cakebattered]

Xbox one reveal was actually 2 weeks prior to E3. The 2013 Xbox E3 presentation was spectacular, except the price reveal got tons of cricket chirps.

[@Nicomanism]

Xbox One 2013 reveal was one of the worst reveals . It literally triggered many gamers about next gen then .

[@ghostbiggie]

i made it til the end - and thoroughly enjoyed it. even the times when richard got RUDELY cut off by someone turning up onstage when he was in the middle of a good anecdote

[@newbielives]

Lol killzone is getting me hyped all over again for a console I already have

[@michaelmonstar4276]

I know! - Good thing I only got it late last year and I have yet to play Shadow Fall... Yea, I live 6 years ago. XD I have no excuse other than that PC (and life) kept me busy. - But hey, I just finished 'The Last of Us' yesterday, despite having played "Uncharted" a decade ago. I'm not complaining, still enjoyed it. Videogames are meant to live on.

[@excitedaboutlearning1639]

@@michaelmonstar4276 My favorite game of the PS4 generation is Metal Gear Solid V. I got into the franchise, but I still haven't finished MGS: Peace Walker. I haven't even started MGS2, 3 or 4. I'm hyped up for them. They're old games. MGS4 came out 12 years ago. Don't worry about being late to the generation. There's amazing games to play!

[@drmoreno98]

Damn, DF putting out feature films

[@Poever]

When there’s no Wonder Woman 1984 to watch, you call the Digital Foundry gang

[@cooloobahn112]

I loved how driveclub had real time headlights. To this day I look on every game that has cars to see if they have it too. And I've never noticed it as good as it is in driveclub. It was awesome! Looked so good at night on cockpit view.

[@michaeljohn2826]

This console still manages to blow me away graphically.. Just started playing Uncharted lost legacy and WOW!

[@norbertcsorba4639]

1:35 remembering San Andreas: its either the "food order" or the "wrong house" meme. Sony knows whats up

[@guillermo9171]

I always thought "follow that damn train" was above both of those.

[@CaveyMoth]

You work fast, n***a

[@w1nch3ster1]

@@CaveyMoth Bustas. Straight bustas.

[@FabTheZen]

I can say with pride that I just finished watching the whole thing! It was a really pleasant, podcast-like experience. Thank you Richard, John and Alex for this interesting retrospective!

[@edgeofanduril717]

love this long form content. Really appreciate hearing your insights and perspectives into the past eras of console gaming. Definitely please consider making more long form content as I could sit for hours and stream your discussions while grinding different video games in the background. Many thanks

[@PSNationTorgo]

The teleprompters were right in front of the stage, along with the screens for the folks playing the live demos. That's how I knew that Killzone would be shown, since I had to walk in front of those screens to get around a cameraman from some outlet that blocked the walkway up front with all of his equipment

[@zummone]

Nice

[@Ample17]

Interesting!

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Cool lol but you spoiled the best reveal for yourself

[@up7500]

I love these episodes. Just the boys hanging out. You guys would make a great podcast!

[@toodlebug500]

I made it to the end! I love these retrospectives of E3 presentations, I've had them on while working for the last few days. I think I've ran out now though, I'd love to see more!

[@chrisbullock6477]

Amazes me DF never talked about or reviewed that "Magician" Demo that was pretty mind blowing.

[@KingZoa]

50:39 When that explosion happened for the first time. That was the literal moment I knew, I was buying a PS4 day one. And I did with killzone lol I still have em

[@AlleyCrockett]

Me too :)

[@KingZoa]

Alley Crockett when I heard 399, I also knew that was the moment i was buying it

[@tipoomaster]

It's heartening that that UE4 engine demo here at the PS4 launch actually looks pretty drab compared to games using it now. So that UE5 demo should be a glimpse of real potential that may even be surpassed by later games.

[@JamanWerSonst]

If we get games that look better than Matrix Awakening UE5 demo in a few years I'm gonna shit a brick.

[@assegai7055]

@@JamanWerSonst what😂😂😂😂

[@jackakascko]

What ill remember this console generation by is great games, sony did an awsome job

[@H.E.M.]

Xbox user remember $500 for a vcr and spy camera, cancelled exclusives, Xbox exclusives becoming multiplats, batteries for controllers in 2013 (and again in 2020), under powered console and than being charge another $500 for a better console, losing cod exclusivity, ton of failed exclusives (dead rising, quantum break, sunset overdrive, sea of thieves, crackdown 3, halo 5, halo mcc, bleeding edge etc) Other than that Xbox had a great gen 😊

[@farqleethussain9102]

@@H.E.M. lol

[@W0lf_91]

Batteries for controllers is still actually a good idea. Just get rechargeable which last way longer

[@TofumanFC3S]

Andy Walford I don’t get what’s wrong with batteries either? I have many PS3 controllers, all have bad or horrible internal batteries from age. Who can keep all their internal batteries healthy of a controller collection from a older gen console that you rarely use? It’s ridiculous! Along with the cheap materials it’s why I hate the Dual Shock 3. I can pick up any controller from my Xbox 360 collection, pop in a set of batteries and it’s ready to go 🤷‍♂️ Love it! Plus my rechargeable battery in my Xbox One controller seems to last twice as long as in the Dual Shock 4...

[@Andrew.K64]

I love coming back and watching/listening to these DF E3 videos. It’s comforting and relaxing to listen to, similarly to watching a movie with Commentary on.

[@Tragel102]

Do the Xbox reveal next! It would be hilarious

[@pipgoesthepossum]

Hilariously painful, tbh

[@Manas_Choudhary]

One thing the Xbox One launch provides is a good laugh, and I'm not saying that in a condescending manner. I genuinely enjoy watching the mess previous Xbox execs made and am grateful Phil Spencer revived a crucial gaming brand in the industry.

[@Pokemonlyfan]

It was soo bad. „You want games? Here is a tv show“. No wonder Sony used the slogan „for the players“

[@alinepiroutek8932]

@@Manas_Choudhary He was talking about Xbox, not Xbox One

[@JoshMarshain]

I think it'd be pretty fruitful just to see what not to do going forward when it comes to selling/marketing hardware

[@nhecos2998]

Listening to Ridge Racer music playing in the background is so bittersweet...

[@19HajimeSaitou91]

Omg Witchard is on another level.. When he talks - - I'm all ears

[@Fendera1]

We are lucky to have you John, Thanks!

[@benthompson8878]

A Brit, a German, and an American walk into an e3 conference.

[@randyrrs7028]

Who's the brit and the german?

[@Chevelle3_]

rich is a brit and alex is german​@@randyrrs7028

[@Allyouknow5820]

Yes John, I made it to the end /o/ But now Rich : WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR WATCH DOGS STORY :)))

[@CaveyMoth]

I love Watch Dogsssss..well, the first one, at least.

[@DuudeWhatDoesMineSay]

I wonder what it was running on if it wasn't pc. A liquid nitrogen cooled PS4 dev kit?

[@ZiggyStardust85]

@@DuudeWhatDoesMineSay Perhaps a Mac?

[@christopherwalkinalloverya5824]

@@ZiggyStardust85 A cluster of 8 GTX 680's with an OC'd Deep Blue acting as the CPU.

[@jjforcebreaker]

These recaps are one of my fav things. Thanks, DF team!

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

This decade has been such a blur for me that the PS4 reveal feels like yesterday. Some part of me finds it surreal that it's 2020, and not the middle of the 2010s still. Is it just me with a terrible grasp of time? Anywho, carry on.

[@TheScure]

I have the same feeling, it's interesting. 2000-2010 felt so much longer, maybe this is how it feels when you start to grow up.

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

@@TheScure Interesting indeed. I'm sure there's some mundane scientific explanation about how our perception of time changes with age and how our memory also skews it, but it's still a very surreal feeling. I feel like I've spent 3 years into the decade in the place of 10, like I'm still in 2013 waiting for Black Flag and KZ Shadow Fall to be released. Haha.

[@JJSideshowBob]

It is the same for many of us I think. A lot has happened in our lives in this timespan and a lot has happened in the world, really. Also let's not forget that the amount and cadence of information circulating has grown and grows still, thanks to the web and social media. So all this is condensed in our memory.

[@albertotrigosbueno5547]

Yeah, this decade felt so much shorter

[@adayexpired6370]

You just gettin old. Happens. Time goes faster and faster and faster, then you gasp “wtf,” b4 you kick the bucket. 😑. It’s life. 😑

[@live_kaito_reaction]

I liked how mgsv implemented its second screen. In game using the idroid doesn't pause time so you have to be aware of your surroundings whenever you use it and be quick. Having the idroid app on your phone be used to control it worked really well since instead of blocking the screen with the idroid menu and going through clunky navigation, you can just look down at your phone and tap quickly. It was intuitive and a lot more immersive

[@belijeonodugo2222]

56:30 Tears in my eyes when they complimented Driveclub

[@thewirv]

it's so funny because I actually rewatched this as well a couple of days ago

[@Zeegoku1007]

Ha ha ha....ha 😑

[@lurpi5631]

Is there a lesbian as your profile pic?.

[@liamflan9553]

Yes very funny. Marcel you should be comedian

[@Baleur]

5:20 DUDE the feels :) I watched this right before i moved from my home in Sweden to China. And now, i'm about to return back home to Sweden next month. Watching this is like nostalgia + life chapter beginning and end all in one box. I'M NOT CRYING, YOU ARE!

[@rindar1]

I'm so glad to hear you talking about covering Detroit on the pc. When it came out, I was eagerly waiting for the video of it, but it never came. I hope you get to it at some point. Awesome work guys.

[@CaveyMoth]

Yeahh! I really wanna see their coverage of it.

[@TheloniusFabdul]

These commentary videos are my favourite. You guys have amazing chemistry; please make more.

[@phased-arraych.9150]

One of the most memorable reveals ever. I was 16 years old when I first saw this on the livestream.

[@twosnakse]

But how many other reveals did you actually remember if you were only 16? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@DarkReturns1]

I'm old

[@nadirjofas3140]

@@twosnakse 5-10 i guess

[@VenomSnakeMGS]

lol I was 13 and im 20 now

[@pigi7738]

lucky you... I was 30 😑

[@TheGabrielfaro]

Time goes by so fast.... I remember watching this live. The killzone gameplay was amazing... The ps4 was the first console i got right at launch. I still remember the feeling of buying my fisical copy of Infamous second son

[@DarkTibbles]

I really wish Digital foundry would go in depth into shareplay. One of my favorite and most underated features. Not only letting you view another players PS4 stream with them having to share it publicly, but yes they can pass the controller to you to help them out. It also lets you try out a game your friend has. Plus it gives couch coop capability to someone who doesn't even own the game! Sure it isn't as pretty but latency isn't bad and a 720p stream or 1080p on pro is pretty sweet for what it's trying to accomplish

[@Poever]

Did people actually USE Shareplay? The communication on that wasn’t expressed very well

[@tears2040]

DarkTibbles Share play has horrible lag, playing sports games is basically unusable. 720p and horrible latency, tried many times playing Madden and it’s a disaster. A nice feature to possibly watch someone else’s game but needs to severely be improved

[@albertotrigosbueno5547]

@Omega Red you are a real hero, defeating bloodborne bosses with network latency, the ultimate difficulty

[@josuem7398]

@@tears2040 You probably have shit internet or your using WiFi because I've used Share Play many times and it worked great some latency but perfectly playable on Fifa, A way out, and uncharted.

[@tears2040]

Josue M Just because you can’t tell your head from your ass doesn’t make your opinion valid...... Share play not only is crippled by 720p, it’s also hindered by latency and even lower frame rates. By the way I have the fastest internet available residentially in United States at Fiber over 1000Mb up/down

[@radrobb3530]

Consider me a DF Retro EX veteran! I can't get enough! I think I've pretty much seen all of them and I'll definitely check out any that I haven't seen lol. I love the more positive vibes and the added historical context.

[@Artourne]

Cool idea to revisit this conf ! What a ride for the ps4. Two things i wanted to react to : - I never see people speak about the marketing aspect of the led light on dualshock 4. For me the idea was to let people directly know someone is playing ps4. At the time of youtube and twitch, it’s a perfect free ad. Otherwise they would have allow to turn it off. - other thing is Square continues to develop luminous engine. There is currently a new IP developed with it by people who worked on FFXV. Not FFXVI but waiting to see what it will look like on next gen ! Promising engine.

[@abrahamj15]

Mark cerny is the weirdest dude I have come to admire.

[@johndesper9425]

What's weird about him apart from his outward appearance?

[@warren3409]

Yea.....whats weird about him?

[@bearpuns5910]

*Mark Sony

[@teehundeart]

@@johndesper9425 Knack

[@campos3452]

Pretty much SONY’s Shigeru Miyamoto San

[@mazin9193]

Agni's Philosophy also ran on an ultra highend PC with a GTX680. Nothing quite beat that demo on consoles to this day.

[@fer1356]

Made it to the end, but had to make a pause to do other stuff, I love these retrospectives on to console presentations, they are awesome.

[@rare6499]

Thanks for these videos guys. I’ve been feeling really unwell recently with lots of complications and these videos give me brief escape. I remember watching this and it really does only feel like a few years ago. So much has changed in such a short space of time. My life is totally different to what it was in 2013 (unfortunately). Maybe we can look back at the PS5 reveal in 2027?! See you there hopefully

[@tonvanderlinden8960]

U k?

[@rare6499]

@@tonvanderlinden8960 no bro but these videos give some great escape

[@bradhaines3142]

@@rare6499 eh walk it off you'll be fine

[@ExtremalMetal]

Thank you for this, it's always kinda warming to listen to your recollections and stuff, nearly a parasocial experience. I watched all of these reveal videos, including this. I would really love seeing you revisit some more of Nintendo reveals.

[@TrueLink00]

One game that I thought did the “second screen experience” right was Assassin’s Creed 4. You didn’t use the second screen while you played the main game. Instead you sent your crew on jobs throughout the day and reaped the rewards or losses in the main game. It made the second screen a side way to continue while you were at work.

[@gureguru4694]

and it went out to sell over 110m units in 7 years. legendary stuff.

[@wallacesousuke1433]

And? You talk like they share their profits with ya 😂

[@zonzore]

Yeah Killzone still looks very amazing.

[@Chris-rx9dm]

I actually rewatched this and all the other ps4 and ps4 pro reveals again shortly after the ps5 reveal was delayed just to get a taste of the production value Sony is teasing for this upcoming event. Great video as always. That was a lot of fun to experience again with your always amazing commentary right to the last second.

[@TerryMartinART]

I enjoy hearing this again with Alex's Pc background observations added. I forgot about Knack (Wow look at all those polys I thought at reveal then) Killzone intro was the game intro that blew me away. I did not think it was real until I saw "clueless gamer" Conan playing the game early. Conan late show he was aiming all over the ceiling and the floor :)

[@Poever]

Knack was about how many particles they could shove on-screen at the time, Killzone was pushing more polygons

[@TerryMartinART]

I meant to say background in pc, bringing his observations to the console analysis. It’s great to hear many experts from various backgrounds.

[@TerryMartinART]

I wasn’t sure if the particles where actual polys, I remember them having cool physics either way when hitting the floor after dying or shedding back small.

[@samwarrian1031]

These videos when you guys are just shooting the shit and commenting freely are relaxing and so enjoyable. Please do more of these; it's almost like listening to and watching a long podcast!

[@UnwantedSelf]

Can't wait for the Xbox one retrospective that one was so bad withe the DRM stuff

[@hansgoranhogstrom1900]

A bunch of things were really bad when Mattrick ran xbox, but at least it spawned a whole lot of hysterical memes. That retrospective episode should be hilarious.

[@mrpiratefox4497]

Say thanks to Mattrick for that shit event. He really hurt Xbox forever

[@Shaved_Ape]

Spencer was part of the team that came up with those ideas. Mattrick was doing the presentations and interviews but Spencer agreed with the original vision for the brand. He's admitted that himself. So let's not pretend that Mattrick was acting alone with all the decisions that were originally made. He had a team of execs that all made the decision together. Here's Spencer admitting: "I see it sometimes on Twitter and other places, where people want to call me out as somebody who was at the leadership table when decisions were made for Xbox One, and that's absolutely true. "I've never tried to wash my hands or distance myself from my role on the Xbox One leadership team through the announcement of the console, E3 2013 - I was there, and I'm not trying to create some kind of false history that makes me look better, to say I wasn't there, I wasn't involved. I'm going to take responsibility for those decisions, absolutely, good ones and bad ones. I have to, otherwise I don't have any credibility in what I do going forward. "I wouldn't trust me if all of a sudden I tried to say 'well, I was asleep during those meetings'. It would be silly. I was there."

[@Cakebattered]

Xbox failed to openly discuss their DRM plans in the Xbox One reveal or their E3 presentation.

[@DisguiseAU]

I watched the whole video at normal speed without skipping anything ;) Thanks for the good commentary.

[@Lattrodon]

I still play Driveclub. Rip servers :(

[@rtx2080ubermacht]

Lattrodon same here, really sad

[@N1ckZ]

I never liked this game. I bought it played it for a bit and never touched it again. The thing that I disliked the most was that there weren’t any real tracks and it was very arcade-ish.

[@Shaved_Ape]

@@N1ckZ Well you bought it for the wrong reasons then, because being arcadey and having fictional tracks is precisely why it's such an outstanding game. The best racer on PS4 by a mile. If you wanted realism from your racers then there's a clogged market of games available. Every damn game is a sim wannabe these days, so DriveClub was a breath of fresh air in the genre. The arcade racer is almost extinct at this point. NFS is the only big arcade brand these days and when was the last time they pushed out a truly great game?

[@W0lf_91]

“The best PS4 racer by a mile”... in your opinion. I mean, it isn’t, no way, but whatever.

[@Shaved_Ape]

@@W0lf_91 If I have to state "in my opinion" in a comments thread on KZbin about a video game then I can't help you. Common sense doesn't need to be stated when all views on entertainment are subjective. Also, I like how you disagree but provide no actual input or argument as to why. What value does that give to your "opinion" then?

[@GC-xl3is]

Love how you guys always play Ridge Racer soundtracks in your vids :)

[@b1elal]

2 hours of DF? I’m always down for this ♥️♥️♥️

[@agamaz5650]

hell yesssssss

[@MahdiAlKhalaf]

I have stayed until the end :) I did it over 2 days and I left it playing in the background while I was doing some work and enjoying the commentary.

[@KingZoa]

We need more of these retro reveals! that’s crazy how y’all just made this one as soon as I finished watching all them yesterday 😅😂😊

[@Carkoon]

I really enjoy these! It would be great if you continue to do them with even older stuff (Xbox 360, PS1, PS2, Dreamcast, etc.). I've never seen those and with your commentary it would be a great way to finally see them.

[@Firebreath56]

Yeeesss, I have been waiting for another one of these!

[@Soulofagreathero]

I 100% want to see more of these and have watched it from start to finish 3 times already. Even if just in the background or headphones. Can’t get enough of this console retrospective stuff.

[@Sheen334]

Made it till the end, people enjoy this stuff John! 😁

[@rich3827]

Love these type of videos. Fun to hear fellow nerds banter about old console conferences. My OG PS4 still going strong! cant wait for PS5.

[@ThresherMaw]

A little bit of normalcy while the whole world is burning down.. Thank you for keeping the content coming, guys

[@pinkfloyd36123]

i love when you guys do this stuff, any roundtable talk with the 3 of you is entertaining and interesting

[@leonthesleepy]

I fully expect a ton of sassy Richard Commentary on this

[@p5rsona]

I had no idea he was this sassy!

[@TheGaluMoD]

I did make it to the end. I love these, they're very chill and just fun to watch. :) Can't wait for you guys to tackle more past conferences and also upcoming ps5 and xbone x presentations, whatever form they might take.

[@BIGNOIDS]

Mark Cerny is a gem within the gaming world.

[@fcfdroid]

Behold i kept my promise and lo i supporteth thee via Patreon! And i enjoy all things tech and PlayStation so it was nice to listen (while i work) to little foot notes that i didn't know happened during this time in History. I highly recommend you guy's cover PlayStation 5's 3D Audio and what that means for the future of gaming in PC and Xbox! It's far above and B3YOND what's currently the norm!!!🔥🔥🔥 Regular 3d Audio is good enough but this, this is something truly special.

[@chardaw5941]

The fact that this channel hasn't hit 1 million subs is beyond me.

[@UmVtCg]

It has actually

[@GLegend360]

I actually thoroughly enjoy these videos. I like how you guys look back at reveals and we see what things happened and didn’t happen and why and how things have changed. Definitely watched to the end and can’t wait for more!

[@tloz171nfs]

There's so much variety in this presentation. I really hope the PS5 reveal isn't all realistic narrative-driven 3rd person open world action games...and then like, Gran Turismo.

[@ryanmuise2078]

I made it all the way through to the end! Love these kinds of videos from you guys! Watched over the course of a few days and really enjoy your commentary. Looking forward to more.

[@powerfrenzy]

I want to see a DF retro on the PS Vita if you guys haven't already done it. Vita feels like Dreamcast to me. A lot of great stuff, woefully unsupported and fast-tracked to failure in spite of its potential.

[@somesimo5122]

Ohh that’s awesome, when a historic conference is covered by DF’s commentary, I know I’m in for a great watching and listening! Thanks, keep going with such episodes!

[@l3igwill1994]

Can’t wait to see the ps5 I have a habit of getting all the console before the end of the generation.. and I’m an avid pc gamer

[@spht9ng]

same. soon as the holidays come, i'm getting a Series X and the RDNA2 mid-range card.

[@pudzianwrc]

Now is the best time to buy PS4. I bought used Ps4 pro it was cheaper than GPU in my pc. So many great games to play for cheap.

[@JJS-GamingandTech]

@@spht9ng Out of curiosity. Why would you buy a Series X when you have a PC? Majority of Xbox games are on PC.

[@NichtNameee]

You should buy a fedora

[@spht9ng]

@@JJS-GamingandTech Cuz the Series X has a RTX 2080 level gpu in it. which will cost like $700 for PC.

[@christiansimon9182]

I'm very happy you do talk so positively about Driveclub ^-^ The shut down of Evo and the (rather early) abandonment of its server infrastructure truly hurt. It really deserved better. I'm #1 in Driveclub worldwide so if the team of DF has any questions just ask them :) I suppose you cover the PS5's (hopefully soon) reveal in a similar kind of fashion :3 I'm looking forward to it! Thx for reading :]

[@occrash5616]

@John, do the right thing, revisit driveclub. Pay the homage it deserves!

[@themightyant.]

Does it still play well without the online Club aspect?

[@occrash5616]

@@themightyant. The online challenges are gone so you are left with a standard racing experience competing just against other on-track cars. The game itself is still amazing. I re-bought a ps4 + driveclub this Christmas after selling it in 2015. Its a crazy good looking game.

[@themightyant.]

OC CrASH Thanks. This is good to hear. I have had it for ages but never got around to playing it. I ‘assumed’ more of the game was not functioning.

[@RicoSynth]

I made it to the end! Please please please do more of these!

[@mi-kv3vm]

I was waiting for this. Thank you. "Revisiting The Xbox One Reveal" should be very entertaining.

[@hooblefloob]

I watched the whole thing while working on backgrounds. Thanks guys

[@BattleJoe97]

Would be nice to have a look at the E3 presentation of the Wii U’s reveal.

[@richinhh3239]

I saw it till the end my friends. Great content!

[@chrisbullock6477]

I made it to the end, because I was expecting to see the PS4: Dark Sorcerer Demo

[@Firebreath56]

I did in fact watch this all the way to the end, and I can't wait for you guys to do another!