DF64 Gen2 vs Timemore 064S. | Which one to choose?

[@RykkerNighteyes]

Love your work. So much more honest than other reviewers.

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thank you very much for your kind words!

[@christopherbuck7679]

I have a DF64 gen 2, but prefer the look of the 064S. The DF64 is superb I am very happy with the standard burrs, and as it can be upgraded like the 064s it’s future proof, and built like a preferable tank. Great review.

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really like DF64 gen 2. Such an improvement from previous gen. Now let’s wait and see how gen 3 will look like

[@christopherbuck7679]

I sort of hope it’s not much better than the gen 2, as I have only just got mine……..but possibly extra cost! I was interested in the DF54 but think the lack of changeable burrs did make me think the 64 was a better option. Have you got a test for the fr54 coming up?@@mycoffeeshow111

[@mattlabella7850]

Love this, so relevant for folks shopping under 1k. For most this is the top of the pops

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thx for watching.

[@jsb1181]

Thanks for the comparison! I have the DF64 gen 2 and love it so far. I'm mainly a V60 guy so have been wondering about getting some SSP burrs...

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thx for watching. DF64 gen 2 is a great grinder to have. SSP burrs can improve the clarity of your pour overs.

[@wojciechradziusz6815]

I'm glad I ordered DF64 as I'm espresso lover ❤

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Both good, for this test DF64 was better. I normally use Timemore at 800rpm and that improves the taste of espresso.

[@wojciechradziusz6815]

Then you can play with RPMs on 064s and compare it to DF64. That would be interesting.

[@TizOnly1]

Yes I'm in the US still waiting for my Timemore!

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Well, good luck.

[@topjets5616]

If I were to buy a grinder today (I have a Eureka Mignon Facile) it would be a DF64 Gen 2 with all the diffent burrs available for it :)

[@mycoffeeshow111]

DF64 is a very solid choice.

[@Val_Smith]

I am trying to choose a 64mm grinder where to put ssp mp burrs for turbo shot and wonder if 064s motor is up to the task with liight roast? I know df64v can do it but sculptors workflow looks better.

[@mycoffeeshow111]

I never had any issues with DF64 but 064s stalled few times with very dense coffee. It is also more difficult to swap burrs on it. Otherwise both very decent grinders.

[@barjee]

The motor sucks for light roasts tbh even struggles with denser medium roasts, very odd choice that the 78mm has a 400w motor and the 64mm has 150w

[@Val_Smith]

@@barjee thanks, got myself df64v

[@Mzedith]

Do you think the stock burrs in the timemore will still give clarity in my cup? Im looking for brightness for light roasts. I hope i made the right choice. Or change them? Will pull espresso for an americano

[@mycoffeeshow111]

They should be decent for all. Play with them first, season a bit. After that you can think about the upgrade. I was planning to swap them for SSP MP but was so fed up with the whole process that I sold my grinder. First time in my life I made a little profit 😁

[@Mzedith]

@@mycoffeeshow111 awe, darn i was hoping you would love it. What was your frustration, changing the burrs?

[@mycoffeeshow111]

@@Mzedith to open it is easy but you have to put it back in the exact specific way otherwise it won’t start. Every now and then is doable but not if u want to compare let’s say 3 different burrs set in one video

[@peterkho6008]

Hello, Jack. You must have read my mind. I was looking at these exact 2 grinders to replace my current one. I was leaning towards Timemore, but after watching your video, I am not so sure anymore. 🤔Great content as always, keep up the great work!

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thx. I recorded it just for you. Both great grinders. I tried to be very objective here and let the viewers reach their own conclusions. Whichever one you choose you should be happy.

[@Hemshemsems]

The 064s is like a toy compared to the DF gen 2 and they finally made it as it should have been from the start. The 064s is as a first go just okai. I chose the 078 and at the ks price its more similar to DF64 g2. Features and low watt motor are worse than the DF64 g2, and much easier to change burrs - its now the darling of their lineup imo..

[@mycoffeeshow111]

@@Hemshemsems Maybe I should went for 078 but didn’t want another big grinder and I will sell it anyway right after I finish my tests.

[@Hemshemsems]

@@mycoffeeshow111 Mhmyah you don't really need the 064s and you have top grinders. 078 and 078s are different animals and in another league and will compare much better then the 064's - but the price of the 078's are more inline with the DF83 and 64V.

[@JusBThankful]

Edit: DF64 with "fill in the blank" burrs or K-ultra for medium to very light espresso, Timemore vs K-Ultra for pourover?

[@mycoffeeshow111]

You ask difficult questions. On a good day, with lively fruity coffee, if judging just by the taste, K Ultra can rival even some high end grinders. Still, I am too lazy and can’t see myself using it as main driver.

[@JusBThankful]

@@mycoffeeshow111 yeah I know what you mean...thanks man!

[@fjaviergl99]

Great video, i changed my 064s for ssp mps and so far so good... where did you get those glasses u used for the pour over?

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thx for watching. Maybe I should change the burrs as well. Cups and carafe are from Orea

[@christopherbuchanan5914]

Sculptor backer with arrival scheduled for this Friday! Merry Christmas! Thanks for this comparison. I'm trying to decide whether to get SSPs for this 064s or just season these burrs. Espresso only. How much seasoning did your grinders have before this comparison? Curious whether your espresso results for the 064s is after excessive seasoning or before. Thank you!

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thank you for watching. It is good grinder for the price and you should be very happy. I struggle with access to the burrs, so much so that I decided to sell it. Even made a little profit 😁 Have a great coffee and even better Christmas!

[@ShayanGivehchian]

Im tring to decide between DF64 and Eureka Mignon Specialita. If they are the same price, which one do you think is a better choice for upgrading the Built in Breville Barista Express grinder? Is the upgrade going to be worth the 400$ price over the one i have ?

[@mycoffeeshow111]

I started my adventure with Barista Express and my first upgrade was Eureka specialita. I did notice significant improvement. I might have some old videos about that. DF64 would definitely be better in terms of workflow and clarity in the cup. Specialita would be preferred if you like more classic approach to espresso (more body , less clarity). Word of advice, once you get better grinder you will start thinking about better machine. Once you get that, you will need even better grinder. This is a slippery slope.

[@ShayanGivehchian]

@mycoffeeshow111 can you explain how it improves it ? Like I can make a pretty comparable espresso to what I get at a shop with am ek43 and la marzocco machine with identical beans. I think they both miss nuance and I like to get sweet rich tasting espresso I just don't want to be disappointed by spending a lot of money.

[@mycoffeeshow111]

@@ShayanGivehchian That is what I am trying to tell you. If you are happy with what you have, stick with it. Better grinder allows you to dial in the tricky coffees easier. You should also notice cleaner flavour notes vs inbuild grinder but to appreciate it fully you would need to upgrade the espresso machine as well

[@ShayanGivehchian]

@@mycoffeeshow111 I see. Appreciate you response and your work here.

[@mycoffeeshow111]

@@ShayanGivehchian thank you!

[@hur-kan]

After I got my Timemore 064S I stopped using 1zpresso K-PRO for filter. I think 064S tastes better than K-PRO for pour over. Can you also make a comparison with Comandante. I mean I would like to know which one is better for filter, 064S or Comandante. We need a blind test :)

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Very interesting. 064s should not be that great for pour overs but if you like it- why not. I sold both 064s and Comandante long time ago so won’t be able to compare them.

[@Dstroke682]

Hello jack , big of your content great work you've done helping the community 👍🏼👍🏼 ,, is there any possible way if you can get the varia vs3 and comparing it to your lineup and if its worth it and is it possible that small size conical grinder could compete with the kings you have

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thank you very much for watching. We will see. I am not planning to get any more grinders this year but anything is possible 😛

[@TooManyPBJs]

You should do Timemore low/med/high RPM vs df 64 v2

[@mycoffeeshow111]

@@TooManyPBJs maybe you are right but I am not sure if that would be fair.

[@portakeeper]

Gen 2 for the win!

[@mycoffeeshow111]

They really made it well

[@Niikolaii]

Hey Jack! Thanks for the comparison. Please a bit less sharpening for the video next time, way to much sharpening in this video. Keep up your work!

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Hi, Sure thing. Was trying new settings.

[@barjee]

The problem i found with the 064s was the weak ass motor =/ i could hear it struggling with a medium/ light roast, you can hear the variance in speed which makes RPM control useless, definitely affected the particle size distribution, i tried the ssp MP burrs in both and got a more uniform grind using them in the DF64

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Interesting. I haven’t investigated it so closely. Thx for sharing. Are you keeping both of them?

[@barjee]

@@mycoffeeshow111 Decided to throw my HU burrs in the timemore and use it for medium or darker! It's a shame they didn't put a stronger motor inside =/

[@mycoffeeshow111]

@@barjee yeah, they tried to keep the cost down I guess.

[@siphawtia4647]

Hey jack. interesting result I'm waiting for timemore sculptor O78S to compare it to my niche zero 😅. Nice video thanks for it.

[@mycoffeeshow111]

Thx for watching. Hopefully you will get yours soon

[@dkedavid]

Did you have to season the 064S burrs?

[@mycoffeeshow111]

I’m sure it will only get better with time. I run about 1.5kg of beans on each of them.

[@fourteenfour1]

DF64 looks like trash.

[@mycoffeeshow111]

@@fourteenfour1 really? I kind of like it. Still, the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Do you like the look of Timemore more?