IMPORTANT! Please Read: 1. Sorry about the audio quality drop at 4:47. 2. WARNING: You will not be able to look at the Lagom P64 the same ever again if you watch this video. 3. DO NOT put KY-Jelly in your grinder.
@jarnStarr12 ай бұрын
Hi Aramse, for the declumper hack on the df83, did you simply remove one of the declumper layers and only go with the 1? Also, have you noticed any flavor changes as a result to espresso? Sounds like you like it for filter due to less fines. I imagine it to be the same for espresso? Just got the df83 v2 and curious of doing the same hack to lessen fines but don't want to diminish flavor of espresso. Thanks!
@TheJolam807 ай бұрын
Being a previous DF83 owner who also spent some time with the 64mm DLC burrs, I gotta say your taste description is SPOT ON. Actually, the whole review is extremely accurate. I'm a big fan of your work and looking forward to your future content. Keep it up!
@jedrzejkrysztofiak60417 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward for DF83V review!
@justinlouismusic8 ай бұрын
I just ordered a DF64 with SSP multipurpose burrs fitted at factory. Can’t wait for it to arrive. Your review hasn’t disappointed me. Thanks!
@8hxi3 ай бұрын
How has it been so far ? I want to order the same grinder and the ssp for filter and espresso
@justinlouismusic3 ай бұрын
Very pleased but be careful when you season the grinder with coffee. You need to use the bellows for each portion of coffee used or the grinder or shute will clog up.
@philindeblanc17 күн бұрын
@@justinlouismusic can you not take the chute out and put a tupperware under it? You can also use some softer rice types. Also helps when cleaning the grinder.
@tummy_fritters8 ай бұрын
I'd love a grinder showdown! I'm trying to decide on my next grinder and I'd love to know how you would compare the grinders you've used.
@chris_huelsemeyer8 ай бұрын
I do have both, DF64 Gen2 and DF83 v2 and can just confirm what you have mentioned. For me, they are great bangs for the buck. Other grinders that can beat them come with a heavier price tag. But your analysis of their quirks is spot on! Love your channel, great work!
@aramse8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yeah these really surprised me.
@ofreed39737 ай бұрын
Hi! Can you give an advice for me? Should I pay 40% for for getting 83 over 64? Is it worth it?
@philindeblanc17 күн бұрын
@@ofreed3973 I wish he would do a video of DF64 SSP HU or MP vs the DF83v stock burrs. these 2 are similar price, but which would be the better espresso grinder.
@simply_psi8 ай бұрын
As well as the Timeore 078S another competitor for the DF83 would be the Niche Duo. I have the Sculptor 078S and a Kopi Deva 64mm grinder yhe Sculptor is so good, the workflow is amazing, I think the Deva makes slightly better espresso, but the workflow is not great, but if you can spemd the time dialing in it gives amazing results, looks great and is built like a tank
@Emily-hd9sm8 ай бұрын
"Pinocchio with T-Rex arms asking for a hug"....... Well I didn't see it before you said that but now I can't un-see that 😂
@AApekrul4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the declumper tip. I recently bought a DF64 and was surprised by the amount of fines produced. Made filter coffee kind of unpleasant, I'm gonna try this hack
@philindeblanc17 күн бұрын
fyi, the default grinders ship with espresso burrs. not made for drip.
@seansteele7922 ай бұрын
Got my DF64 Gen 2 a week ago, and while its early Im loving it! The catch cup is also matching black and the catch cup holder is now black metal with no rattle which is nice, and the declumper is single layered. Almost like they watched this video for their latest version haha!
@Foolsauce8 ай бұрын
Would love a more complete head to head vs. the 078S. But I'm not sure why I want that, because I've already got a 078S on the way...I suppose just to attempt to see how my purchase lines up against the competition.
@ismiregalichkochdasjetztso32328 ай бұрын
Asking for a little bit of confirmation bias, eh? From what I see, I don't feel the need to ditch my 078S any time soon.
@WillardTurner8 ай бұрын
Same. But from my own personal experience, the 078s wins by a large margin. I briefly owned a DF83v2 and the workflow, cleanliness, and volume all pale in comparison to my 078s.
@Foolsauce8 ай бұрын
And to clarify, I mean a taste showdown, or include the 078s burrs in your burr video you're working on. I feel like there is enough out there about the workflow of all these grinders. :)
@WillardTurner8 ай бұрын
@@Foolsauce I assume you've already seen the Lance Hedrick Sculptor "unfiltered" video. If not, he has a lot to say on that matter.
@Foolsauce8 ай бұрын
@@WillardTurnerYeah, saw it when it came out and his reddit post too about comparisons. It felt like he was so fed up with the Sculptor insanity at that point. Honestly, just waiting for mine and am bored tbh. Don't really need more videos about the 078s.
@WujiErTaiji7 ай бұрын
This video comes at the perfect time. I'm currently contemplating buying on of these two and the comparison is really helpful.
@benjaminbutton34768 ай бұрын
Cleaning the plasma generator is a real pain in the exit chute😂 Also you should include the Gorilla Gear and Option O burrs in your 64mm comparison. ❤
@michaelfurtado435317 күн бұрын
Pretty sure you can just shove a brush in there… the chutes not that long….
@andreievkalupniek57177 ай бұрын
Yes for showdown! Please include the DF83V
@robertjason68857 ай бұрын
Adamse, you have a most piquant sense of humor. Always one of the best elements of your very fine reviews. “KY could make it stiffer.”
@SeanGordon-ym4yf7 ай бұрын
Great review! I would love to see a comparison video.
@mai_stefan88226 ай бұрын
Thank you for your well executed review :)
@alexanderlow16702 ай бұрын
So glad that I stumble upon your channel. I am currently looking to get my first all-purpose grinder (filter and espresso), narrowed down to DF64 v2, Sculptor 064s, or Varia VS3 gen2 as all of these fall into similar price point. Which one would you pick? Anyway, thanks and cant wait to see more reviews. Cheers!!
@Nayr0908 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! Been looking at the DF64 Gen 2 for a while now, glad to see another review on it. Would you recommend either if I do mostly pourovers with occasional espresso drinks?
@pebh69255 ай бұрын
Both its good for both especially if you get the ssp multipurpose burs
@HollywoodSnob_7 ай бұрын
exactly the video I was looking for. Thanks!
@FinleyJonas8 ай бұрын
Having recently tried the DF83. I agree, clunky and not refined. However, makes good espresso.
@NathanAllworth8 ай бұрын
The deadpan delivery of humor on this channel is just *chef’s kiss* Alright, hopping right along…
@d4nte8577 ай бұрын
the df83 you got there is a v3 the only differenes to the v2 are the antipopcorning ring and different bellows
@thoughtsforthemind8 ай бұрын
Big yes to burr comparison please!! 😊
@erichensen39537 ай бұрын
Great review thank you! Comparison against the 078S would be very useful!
@aramse7 ай бұрын
We talk about this briefly towards the end of the video. :)
@philindeblanc17 күн бұрын
The 078S is limited in range and the thread pitch is tight. Not worth the trouble. It looks nice though.
@oops2626867 ай бұрын
This channel definitely deserves a lot more subscribers.. Though I feel you may focus on a little bit lower budget machines as well.
@aramse7 ай бұрын
Thank you! It’s definitely on the to do list to cover more affordable gear.
@propertwb8 ай бұрын
Very well done. And I enjoy the humor. 😊
@jazzmaster898 ай бұрын
definitely would love a showdown!
@fluttuers28208 ай бұрын
Nice review Aramse! I would be interested in a grinder showdown or maybe even just a burr showdown. Is the Sculptor 076 still the filter king in your book or have you found anything better/on the horizon?
@aramse8 ай бұрын
At that price point yes. It’s still amazing and I use it is almost everyday. I do think the 83 MP edges it out but that’s a $1000 price tag at this point. I’m still testing though and they haven’t been fully seasoned just yet.
@BensCoffeeRants8 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing initially that the df83 has a more traditional conical burr like taste profile. Befofe being seasoned or modding the declumper. I actually compared it with a Niche Zero and my friends Sette when i first got the df83. Seemed like DF83 had similar but slightly less body a little more clarity than both of those but very similar profile one thing we noticed was DF83 was smoother with less bitterness. However i think if we'd compare again now it would be more night and day difference with df83 being lower body and higher clarity and likely a little more acidity. I wonder how the df83 would be with Mazzer burrs if that would put it back towards being more traditional.
@aramse8 ай бұрын
These burrs are fully seasoned at this point with around 4-5kgs of beans. It still has a pretty blended profile and a lot of texture.
@rodolphepanetti41488 ай бұрын
interesting video, as usual, and with a little touch of humour that I appreciate.😊👍
@johnmpifer8 ай бұрын
Your description of the espresso produced by the 83 made my mouth water!
@aRk0_aus7 ай бұрын
We need to see Varia VS3 vs DF64 Gen 2 including diff burrs. Still torn which one to go with mainly espresso
@nittygritty74347 ай бұрын
Agree. Curious to see Hypernova burr, or even stock in Varia vs DF64 w/stock burr. Actually even a test of Lagom Mini, Varia VS3, DF64 in comparison light and medium roast beans. If included the Starseeker Edge would be great.
@khungreen97738 ай бұрын
Bring on the showdown
@mikni40697 ай бұрын
Cleaning plasma generator seem like a rather noticeable design flaw, the flap mod is also still a work in progress… Hopefully the DF83v solves most of this. However what I seen on SSP so far the difference between 83 vs 64 is very very mute. Meaning currently I see no real gain (in the cup) to go with 83. Personally I dream of an affordable 80mm that can take Core and ultra burr because these are vastly better burrs then those currently found on 64mm and 83mm.
@REMY.C.8 ай бұрын
WHY????? WHYYYYYY?????? Now I can't unsee Pinocchio with T-Rex arms pleading for a hug!!! 😂
@REMY.C.8 ай бұрын
Ooh okay I get it now, you're just trying to hurt us like you were when someone on Reddit said the 078 looks like a sewing machine and that you couldn't unsee it. That's a bit sadistic 😂
@aramse8 ай бұрын
It’s a risk you’ll have to take if you decide to watch our video. Haha.
@REMY.C.7 ай бұрын
@@aramse yeah love the pokerface humour 😂
@mbrylewski8 ай бұрын
I have tbe df64 v2, and I can't complain. Get superb coffee and zero retention
@peterwhatever10128 ай бұрын
Love the video. I'd definitely be interested in a showdown video!
@markpalmos2 ай бұрын
Hi, I'd love to see a more detailed video comparing these two to the Timemore 078s... I am heading for an upgrade and have my eye on both of these brands... taste with stock burrs, as I am unlikely to want to change burrs every time I change coffee percolation type! Thanks!
@zakariyyagardee893426 күн бұрын
I really hope you'll make that video on the SSP Burrs
@portlandreviewer21433 ай бұрын
I just returned my Fellows Ode gen 2 because the ionization stopped working after around 2 months. I ordered the DF64 gen 2, so hopefully it works better.
@jake78083 ай бұрын
Which site did you buy from? That has a 2 month return policy
@portlandreviewer21433 ай бұрын
@@jake7808 kitchen Kaboodle
@BensCoffeeRants8 ай бұрын
The original DF64s weren't that bad I've had a bunch. Due to quality control though some seemed better than others. Retention and overall design on the df83 of 64 gen2 which is similar is an improvement though. Sounds like you just don't like portafilter forks. Like the p64 the DF64 portafilter forks work fine but some portafilters may fit better than others. Adding or removing the silicon socks can help with that. Also the catch cup and funnel are a much appreciated upgrade for most people lol. You want something that just works nicely you need the p64. My one main complaint on my early build df83 funnel is that it fits loosely and rattles a bigger thicker gasket would fix that! Not sure what would make you say the build or feel is nicer on the ode than it is on the DF grinders. Both feel fine to me but DF is definitely heavier and heavier duty feeling as a result.
@aramse8 ай бұрын
You are correct. I know people who were happy with the OG. I just don’t have any regrets not trying to it. Haha. Also my issue is not with the forks per se. It’s more of a design and visual balance thing for me. My designer brian just flags it as disproportionate and tacked on. Can’t help it. For comparison, the fork on the EG 1 or any of the Kafatek grinders are substantial and actually look like a part of the overall aesthetic. I hope I’m explaining it properly. :)
@ziptiefighter7 ай бұрын
Would a Niche-like cover over the top of these drastically reduce their obnoxious volume?...maybe a simple plastic food carton to experiment. A bandaid...yes. But it'd be nice to know if a simple flip cover would resolve the noise problem. I look forward to big DF comparison video...especially the DF64V's volume vs the others. Cheers
@imranibnismail7 ай бұрын
Yoo.. this is a legit review
@JoshuaStone8 ай бұрын
Showdown!!! You do some of the best content on YT! I want more!!! I’d love a eureka mignon zero for comparison
@aramse8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@philindeblanc17 күн бұрын
Forget the Eureka line, unless you use just 1 type of bean. The dial adjuster for grind setting is the worste. This morning, I went through 6 shots before I dialed in. Wasted 19g per shot and all went to a "Iced Vanilla Latte for wife" insulated bottle in fridge...which is a waste for such pricey specialty beans. They need to update their grind dial for single dosers, as we tend to try medium to dark or light roasts, and we dont want to waste beans. So far in the past 5months I have dumped $300-400 worth. I want to see the DF64 with SSP burrs, the HU or MP vs the newer DF83variable with stock burrs. Last thing I want to do is spend 700 on a grinder then need to update burrs. So if DF64 is fitting my profile in espresso taste, I might do that over 83v. But IDK?
@justin29557 ай бұрын
Great video 👍🏻👍🏻
@michaelfurtado435317 күн бұрын
Just picked up the DF64 GEN2 with DLC burrs too replace my not so old baratza ESP because i switch between two coffees quite allot and im hopping the less retention will give me better consistency. I noticed that the baratza encore esp retains alllotttt of crap and wasnt too happpy with all the plastic bits inside. Hope i made the right decision fingers crossed….
@aramse16 күн бұрын
This should be a pretty big upgrade. :)
@SarntAKluss8 ай бұрын
Hi Aramse, thank you for your great video(s)! Could you use rpm like 800 too for the filter ssp df64 gen2 burr comparison? Would be very interesting but honestly, also a lot of extra work :-(
@aramse8 ай бұрын
Not sure I follow your question. The Gen 2 is not variable RPM. Only the V models are. Or are you asking if we can compare the SSP to the Gen 2 burrs at 800 rpm on another grinder?
@SarntAKluss8 ай бұрын
@@aramse hi, sorry for the unclear question, nonetheless you got it right. If you "only" test on a DF64 - of course you will compare at one RPM. But I read, that for instance SSPcast are great for filter at ~800RPM and also very good for espresso at ~1400RPM. So, it would be interesting to have the filter test for SSBcast and the DF64gen2 burrs at lower RPM too...But no matter what you do, I am looking forward to it & thx in advance!
@1985zebulon8 ай бұрын
Great review
@goawaybaizuo4 ай бұрын
I'm mainly a filter/pourover coffee drinker. I was wondering if the df64 gen 2 could take fellow ode gen 2 burrs. I really like the body to clarity ratio they give.
@konstantinosvakouftsis4086Ай бұрын
Let me ask you something. With the same beans grinding in 83 vs 64 what are your dial in settings? Do both grinders grind at the same number? Lets say 15 or is there a difference?
@Heisenbergg30006 ай бұрын
Would love a comparison for categories "filter only" , "espresso only", "mixed" and also for burrs. Does it really matter in which machine you put the ssp burrs? Should taste the same everwhere, right ?
@aramse6 ай бұрын
It would be nice if it were that simple but nothing with coffee seems to be. Haha. So these are just a few of the variables that affect the grounds - the burr chamber, the feeding system (direct or auger fed or auger fed with pre breaker), the burr orientation and rpm. So unfortunately moving burrs from one grinder to another will not give you identical performance. As for the comparison video it’s in the works and it’ll cover filter and espresso. It’s so much work but we’ll hopefully have that ready soon.
@ChrisWilliams-vm1do2 ай бұрын
I got the 64 Gen 2.
@purpleblue52057 ай бұрын
How would you rank the 078, 64mm SSP MP, and 83mm SSP MP from best to worst (filter/pourover only)?
@AnotherAnonymousMan2 ай бұрын
Great review! It would be great if you made a comparison between the new Turin DF83V and the Timemore Sculptor 78S. They're quite evenly matched!
@KaranRajpal3 ай бұрын
Any chance you'd be reviewing the DF54 in the near future?
@DJaquithFL7 ай бұрын
Lol now they have the DF83V which makes both of these look like yesterday's news.
@radnerak6 ай бұрын
"I can review with a clean slate" - proceeds to compare the previous gen multiple times 😂
@JuddJadulan7 ай бұрын
I wish this came in with a silencer
@geekyboytop6 ай бұрын
Couldn’t live with the df83 wildly inconsistent one morning I dial it in two shots later espresso is gushing the next day it chokes the machine without touching the grinder. I tried everything except for the declumper. I’m going for the sculpter 64s hopefully that works better.
@TheFriskyBoy5 ай бұрын
would you pick the DF83 over the sculptor 078s? I have the 78s and then of 4 kilos I feel so much unconsistency in the grinding, how many kilos of coffe I need to waste to sazonate it....does It will change? I am a bit worried
@takanishi210719795 ай бұрын
Hi! What point for espresso you get for DF64 Gen 2 Coffee Grinder ? 8? 9? 10?
@Senshi_o8 ай бұрын
For filter only which grinder did you prefer more the DF83 or the sculptor 078?
@aramse7 ай бұрын
With the stock burrs the 83 is just OK at filter. The 078 is incredible. With the 83mm SSP MP it gets very close with the DF83 probably edging out the 078 a bit. And the SSPs aren't fully seasoned yet.
@Senshi_o7 ай бұрын
@@aramse Thanks for the info, I don’t plan on spending more on SSP burrs so i’ll go with the 078!
@harbinguy15 ай бұрын
Nice video! Who is making DF64? It seems so many grinder called DF64.
@aramse5 ай бұрын
It’s made in some factory in China, white labelled and sold under various brand names around the world.
@michaelayoub22117 ай бұрын
"Hopping right along" :)
@andrewelliott19394 ай бұрын
Beaten only by the KY Jelly may make things stiffer. 😂
@ShayanGivehchian8 ай бұрын
This is probably the only honest review I've seen from these grinders. A month ago I was in the market and I was skeptical of a product with no consistent brand. I had suspicions of the marketing strategies with everyone praising it and it wouldn't be a polished product with a reputable company to back it. I ended up getting a Eureka Mignon Specialita and this video sort of confirmed my suspicions.
@Val_Smith8 ай бұрын
Do you prefer 83 SSP MP to 78 turbo? Got myself sculptor 78 and plan on getting df64v with ssp mp. It is as close as you can get to p64 without breaking the bank.
@Oliccino8 ай бұрын
It's just personal preference at that point. 078 more juicy, 83mp sharper in a good way
@Feledwards3 ай бұрын
What’s the difference between the Turin and the Miicoffee manufacturers?
@mta41448 ай бұрын
The df64v basically solves all the issues you mentioned 😁
@hookedonwood58308 ай бұрын
but is missing the plasma generator.. - love mine though - but would like less statics.
@justinlouismusic8 ай бұрын
@@hookedonwood5830 use a spritz of water rdt.
@papec1224 күн бұрын
@@hookedonwood5830new DF64V come with plasma generator. Only issue is some static noise when not grinding but I was told that they work on solution for that and will send the part that's fixing the issue to people so they can install it
@ringo.d5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I try to find out if the emil 64 is as good as g-iota gen2 when it comes to grinding loudness and statikmess?
@aramse5 ай бұрын
Haven’t used the emil
@TheTimLara7 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing the DF83 declumper mod. Unfortunately, I'm still getting a ton of retention even after doing that and also using RDT. I wonder if it's just a fact of life with this grinder and super dry Denver winters?
@aramse7 ай бұрын
Ah it could be. So it looks like the retention at the top seems to be non exchange so once it’s filled up it just stays put. The only issue is that you need to brush it to clean out the declumper every once in a while which mean that you’ll get retention again until that fills up. Very annoying. The chute definitely needs work.
@TheTimLara7 ай бұрын
@@aramse I definitely do feel like the dryness and resulting mega static I notice around my house is a contributing factor to coffee wanting to stick to that plastic chute so fiercely. My poor cat gets zapped every time I pet her lately. Guess I'll just keep pipe cleaners and a small vacuum in my workflow....
@TheTimLara7 ай бұрын
@@aramse Update: Turns out I am just dumb...my scale is flaking out and weighing wildly inconsistently between consecutive tares...after checking with a reliable scale, the retention after your declumper hack is only like .3g which I am fine with! 👍
@purpleblue52057 ай бұрын
Which is better for espresso? DF83 or 078s (assuming both are using stock burrs and seasoned)? What about for filter coffee? Can either DF83 or 078s stock burrs come somewhat close to a 078, or is the 078 on a completely different level for filter coffee? Or better yet, have you ever tried making espresso with a 078? I remember Lance Hedrick making espresso with a filter coffee focused hand grinder (ZP6) and being surprised at how good it was. I'd really like to get a 078 but I also want espresso from time to time.
@aramse7 ай бұрын
Ok I'll reply in order. 1) The 83 stock burrs are excellent for traditional style espresso that are low more acidity and clarity but really high on sweetness and texture. The 078S burrs are better for more modern style espresso which better structured acidity and clarity and these burrs are much better for filter than the stock 83. 2) No comparison, the 078 is a filter beast. But comparing the 078S and stock 83 the former comes out ahead with better clarity and overall balance in the cup. 3)The 078 will not do espresso at 9bars. You maybe able to do it with a very dark roast but I doubt you'd want to drink it. You'll also have to grind uncomfortably fine (burr chirp) to build that kind of pressure. It is however capable of turbo shots and does pretty well at that.
@purpleblue52057 ай бұрын
@@aramse Thanks a bunch. You've convinced me to get the 078. 078 seems to be a one of kind filter grind for its price range and I actually prefer turbo shots over modern style espresso. Might also get a DF83 or other traditional espresso focused grinder in the future just for thick high body espresso. Modern style espresso never made sense to me since it doesn't have the clarity and acid balance of pour overs, body + mouthfeel of traditional style, or sweetness and consistency of turbos. Its like a middle ground that doesn't excel at any one thing. 078s seems like a middleman between 078(clarity-acidity) and DF83(body).
@ggusta18 ай бұрын
So what is the bigger upgrade, v2 or gen 2? I need like some sort of matrix or scorecard or something
@neil79027 ай бұрын
What grind range were you using for filter with your df83? I've found 70-90 is necessary which is way bigger than I would require in other grinders.
@aramse7 ай бұрын
I was actually between 65 and 70
@neil79027 ай бұрын
@@aramse ok. I'm not that far off then. Also. "The declumper hack for filter" I haven't done that on mine. What vidro do you talk about this?
@robertjason68857 ай бұрын
With apologies , I missed which burr set your DF64 g2 had installed. Thanks.
@aramse7 ай бұрын
The stock burrs which are made by Turin themselves. These aren’t the italmils that used to ship with earlier version of the 64.
@robertjason68857 ай бұрын
@@aramseMy 64 Gen 2 has the espresso favored burrs as well, not the Italmill. Also the white, not red on-off switch.
@Xrayg2197 ай бұрын
i have the d64 v2 in white ... im not a fan of the black .... also got mine with the DLC burrs ... this grinder is pretty amazing ( compared to my breville )
@nicholashorswill40527 ай бұрын
When bending the declumper up in the df64 gen 2 did you bend it up above the deionizer or below the deionizer?
@aramse7 ай бұрын
Just below
@MaltePersike8 ай бұрын
I got the white DF83 v2 a few days ago. Be aware that mine did not come with the wooden lid but with a black metal one (same as you can order as a spare from their website). This is a downgrade in terms of workflow. First, it fits so snug that it's quite tedious to remove from the bellows. Plus, the coating is very slippery which had me drop the lid more than once. It crashed down onto the base and already left some marks.
@wamote68678 ай бұрын
got my DF83V2 a week ago, and I mine has the "wooden" lid. The grinder is built like a tank ;-)
@chris_huelsemeyer8 ай бұрын
Are you sure you got the Gen2? There is a DF64 v2 (old version) and DF64 Gen2 (newest version). The difference of “v2” and “Gen2” is not a choice of language, but particular different models of the grinder
@MaltePersike8 ай бұрын
@@chris_huelsemeyer Hope so. The grinder (83, not 64) came with the new aluminum dosing cup, the aluminum funnel and it has an ionizer. So all things point to v2. My best guess is that the wooden lids were momentarily out of stock.
@chris_huelsemeyer8 ай бұрын
@@MaltePersike my fault, I read DF64 first. But for DF83 there is only a v2, so you got the right one :)
@kenvme8 ай бұрын
Very new to espresso and grinding with a hand grinder is a pain. Where I'm from, the DF64 gen 2 is just under $340. Hard to beat.
@aramse8 ай бұрын
The price to performance is shocking to say the least. :)
@justinlouismusic8 ай бұрын
@@aramseand the upgrade to SSP is not huge. Around $500 all in. DF are doing an early bird special offer before 1 Feb.
@aramse8 ай бұрын
@@justinlouismusic nuts
@ManishKungwani7 ай бұрын
Wow @kenvme where is that?
@kenvme7 ай бұрын
@@ManishKungwani Philippines man
@Nayr0908 ай бұрын
7:08 "ky jelly" iykyk 😏
@toddpower46748 ай бұрын
So i was always told bigger burrs better taste. Dont like it here. I got a 64mm flat burr grinder and want to go to 80+ mm But my grinder works fine and makes good coffee so not sure if its worth it.
@aramse7 ай бұрын
You're definitely hitting diminishing returns quite hard at this point. If you're happy with your coffee then just keep your current grinder. If you're curious and have the spare cash then go for it. It's fun.
@goawaybaizuo4 ай бұрын
Will the ode gen 2 burrs fit in these for filter?
@robertjason68857 ай бұрын
Didn’t the DF64 gen 1 have the little springs, and gen 2 the circular wave thing?
does it taste really bad if i dont remove the declumper for filter grind settings? i dont want to mess my grinder and the seller says it will void my warranty , if i mod it thank you for your reply currently i am mostly filter with occasional manual espresso drinker
@aramse7 ай бұрын
If you worried about warranty then just open up the burr carrier and push the declumper flaps into the chute using say this chopsticks.
@cngfnb7 ай бұрын
Okay noted thanks for your help man
@robertjason68857 ай бұрын
“Sopranos from Hell.” Excellent.
@brianhayes84417 ай бұрын
What’s the sarcasm rating of each grinder… or this episode? 😂
@barjee89653 ай бұрын
I don't get how people factor in noise level when buying a grinder, like your grinding coffee, for a small amount of time XD
@BloxTube1017 ай бұрын
You said that the declumper hack is needed for filter could you explain more?
@aramse7 ай бұрын
It's help a lot for both in fact. Just that the fines produced at coarser filter settings can really clog the filter and produce very acrid brews.
@BloxTube1017 ай бұрын
thanks for coming back to me so quickly, do you have a video tutorial @@aramse
@aramse7 ай бұрын
@@BloxTube101 it’s shown in this video :)
@BloxTube1017 ай бұрын
Perfect thank you so do you just completely open it up the square plastic piece @@aramse
@Dorito2307 ай бұрын
Are either of these okay for filter coffee?
@aramse7 ай бұрын
We talk about this in the review. There’s a whole segment on taste :)
@jayeshnagarsekar76658 ай бұрын
Are these available in India?😊
@crashandrise8 ай бұрын
Through DF64’s website, yes
@michaelayoub22117 ай бұрын
It's crazy that these grinders still need fiddling. Never again (I have one of the original DF64s).
@aramse7 ай бұрын
For the price I'd say these are definitely now well within the tolerable level of fiddling required. But I get that the trauma from using the OG could very well put one off DF grinders for life. Luckily there's no dearth of alternatives. :)
@DKMarik8 ай бұрын
The Zerno, where is the Zerno?!
@aramse8 ай бұрын
We’re waiting patiently. They are a small company and are fulfilling orders at present so the moment they have a spare unit for review they should be sending it over.
@faremissound7 ай бұрын
@@aramse + 1 for a Zerno review too!
@cosmoshfa88savant66Ай бұрын
Subbed....
@newfguy18267 ай бұрын
thoughts on Zerno Z1 V2?
@aramse7 ай бұрын
Waiting patiently for one. :) I think they are fulfilling orders so the moment a unit becomes available we should get it.