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[@aiziril]

20 years ago Doom 3 came out with revolutionary lighting tech. Now the third Doom game in a series is at it again.

[@WheeledHamster]

DOOM 3 did something different, this one is just more of the same old shit, they need to make DOOM scary again.

[@happygofishing]

@ play hardest difficulty.

[@robertkorth2911]

​@WheeledHamster you haven't even played it dummy no one has

[@LeMonkeyDaSucc]

​@@happygofishingdude is talking about the atmosphere, theme, and overall presentation. DOOM 3 is more of a horror game similar to Dead Space if im not mistaken (or the the other way around depending on release date).

[@BurritoKingdom]

​@@WheeledHamster as someone who has played Doom since 1993. No.. doom 3 is not real doom.

[@Japixx]

I will retire my 1080Ti this summer after 8 years, i want to play new doom

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

We salute your warrior 🫡

[@dmospat]

What are you going to replace it with

[@dmospat]

4070 will do the job

[@Schnoizl]

@@Japixx you are the og, gtx1080ti is a legend

[@tomwebb7091]

Im a Titan X pascal user (basically a hotter running 1080TI) and it too is ready to retire. It still smashes out the fps at 4k Max settings on Doom 2016 which still looks really good. But not as AMAZING as Dark Ages! This newest Doom spells Doom for my GPU!

[@divinitymode9364]

Whenever id or a Sony 1st party game etc arrives you remember yet again that hardware is never the issue. Elite coding is king. If it doesn’t look great or run great that’s on devs. Or above all, publishers forcing games to release before they’re half ready.

[@jackakascko]

True

[@HaloinfiniteEternal]

Facts

[@randomgamer19170]

Preach

[@LouSassol69er]

They have top tier engines. Decima engine is so good and Death Stranding 2 looks graphically amazing

[@lbgstzockt8493]

Fully agree, Doom eternal runs at 240fps with very high settings and ray tracing at 1440p on an rx6950xt and i7 7700k. Pretty much every game I own runs way worse.

[@Waffleisskating]

Id rather take light maps and baked lighitng for 1000% more performance than slight more immersion and fidelity through raytracing, Doom eternal looked good enough to make it a fun experience.

[@kamilciura7953]

Especially that in classic style fps games, call them boomer shooters if you want, you don't really have time (or need) to stare at the scenery😂

[@Waffleisskating]

@@kamilciura7953 yeah, indiana jones looks horrible without rtx and it really should have not been the case, when there is not dynamic lighting you should 100% bake the lighting for people with lower specs to play your game.

[@Jereb343]

There are things lightmaps just don't work for either because they aren't compatible with the design or they make development unreasonably expensive. Real time all the time is better for players and developers who can make changes to their games without having to redo lighting every time or invent hackjob solutions to light dynamic objects

[@JustinLesamiz]

@@kamilciura7953 The original Doom was not as fast paced as its legacy would have you believe. It was a very moody, atmospheric game, with a lot of slow creeping around spooky levels. It's only with revisionist history that it became this bright, fast, arcade game. That was NOT what it was on launch. People didn't even know about strafing or WASD back then.

[@xNightHawk32]

I recently started Doom 2016. This new Doom looks cool!

[@bricaaron3978]

What kind of setup are you playing it on?

[@xNightHawk32]

@@bricaaron3978 I’m playing it on Series X with a 65” 4K TV with Dolby ATMOS surround sound.

[@ericadame4885]

Doom 2016 and Eternal are the shit

[@T33K3SS3LCH3N]

I loved Doom 2016 and currently enjoy Doom Eternal, so I'm pretty hyped. The fact that Eternal runs at 200+ FPS with raytracing at 4k quality upscaling, and the mandatory RT for DA, leaves me very curious how it will look and run maxed out on PC.

[@DoubleYouRandyBe]

Indeed. Curious how much vram it needs in 4k. May similar to indiana jones

[@pctechloonie]

@@DoubleYouRandyBe looks like it's actually less. Indiana Jones wants 12GB at 1080p high, DA only wants 10GB. Perhaps this is the new composite textures and data streaming solution in Id Tech 8 at work here.

[@АлексейЛ-д6х]

In Eternal it's just RT reflections though... very limited RT feature set, and it's much, much, MUCH less taxing on GPU than path tracing.

[@kamilciura7953]

​@@АлексейЛ-д6хno doubtsnit still be very efficient. Remember that Doom Eternal runs at 60fps and native 1080p, without any drops, on regular PS4 while still looking amazing and having extreme degree of geometric detail. Even if new features would sut efficiency in half, The Dark Ages should still deliver performance levels surpassing majority of other games.

[@DoubleYouRandyBe]

@@kamilciura7953 but you have to consider that tha maps in eternal were quite small - arena based. Dark ages seems to have much bigger maps. Mets see, what is for sure the id engine runs way smoother than dogshit ue5 engine.

[@hutchyislive]

Game looks great apart from the giant mech parts and dragon parts. The "Doom" parts look awesome tho.

[@NeverTrustGoats]

In 2016 there was indeed a limit for enemies but in eternal there wasn't. It became really apparent in the DLC's 😅

[@CharlesVanNoland]

Lightmaps go back farther than idTech5 - all the way back to 1996's Quake.

[@ZalvaTionZ]

For sure, but I think his point was that idTech5 didn't have much else going on. The virtual texture thing they did was perfect match for shadow mapping and that was about it. Look at Rage for example, majority of the visuals is just baked diffuse static environment.

[@bricaaron3978]

1:30 *"Doom enemies are obviously not just... caricatures of enemies; they actually do have an AI and them doing something. It's not just a series of animations."* I.e. it's not RAGE.** ** Reply if you don't know what I'm talking about, and why the shooting was NOT the "one thing RAGE got right", as many people were saying.

[@JustinLesamiz]

Umm. Rage is one of the first games that DID have complex AI for enemies. They would jump over railings and circle around behind you and stuff like that. That game had a lot of enemy tech that absolutely didn't exist in gaming until that game. It has a lot of flaws, but the enemies and gunplay were not among them.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@JustinLesamiz Question #1: How many times have you played RAGE? Question #2: When was the last time you played RAGE?

[@Matt-jc2ml]

Doom also always has quick discounts, probably will get this a couple months after release for 20-30. I really love doom but I'm poor

[@Matt-jc2ml]

Bought both doom and eternal twice, will do the same with this if it comes to switch 2. I really love doom. Best shooter

[@art-thou-gomeo]

15:27 Run well on the hardware of today is 27 fps? Whatever you're smoking I wouldn't mind some of that.

[@DTM1337]

So my 1080Ti probably won't be good enough for this? -_-

[@zedamex]

It won't even start. You MUST have an rtx card

[@DTM1337]

@@zedamex yeah thought so, looks like I won't be pre-ordering until upgrade my gfx card, cheers

[@zedamex]

@@DTM1337 yeah I'm in the same boat and turn between risking my life buying a card now because doom is doom. Or just playing the game in two years when the next generation of hardware drops and I can actually comfortably buy an insane new PC

[@bricaaron3978]

@@zedamex *"It won't even start. You MUST have an rtx card"* That's interesting, seeing as it runs just fine on RTX-less consoles.

[@Swecan76]

You can't even play it. You need RT capability. Time to move on. 9 year old GPU.

[@obsoletepowercorrupts]

_"Horse-Power",_ I think we can all agree, for a long time now should have been the processor performance measure (what with the ambiguous spectrum of metrics, be it MIPS or whatever, for CPU or microcontroller or FPGA or so called quantum computing), and at that, a measurement of performance Horse-Power would be a unit of _"Horse-Play"._ My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love. Also, I'd say Matthew6.

[@erlixius]

Where is the dlss SR in depth comparison ?

[@DesocupadoXtremo]

Im curious if my 6700XT will handle well DA 1440p for high FPS, if its only 60fps i maybe jump on Geforce Now to stream it at 4K and downscale it to look better and hopefully get 144+ on that

[@CharlesVanNoland]

The game looks great, but I don't think it looks like it couldn't be rendered to look almost exactly the same without raytracing hardware. The diffuse shadows with variable penumbra could be done using conventional shadowmapping techniques (i.e. stochastic soft shadows, percentage closer soft shadows, variance shadow mapping, etc).

[@TheRealRayMillsToo]

The raytracing “look” is impossible without raytracing hardware. It’s not just the baked lighting; it’s how light interacts with the world. That can’t be stimulated. I can immediately tell the difference between when it is on and off in games it’s supported by.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

@@TheRealRayMillsToo Been a graphics programmer for 25+ years, I'm well-rehearsed with graphics, and I will repeat what I said: I'm not seeing anything in DTDA that warrants raytracing.

[@TheRealRayMillsToo]

@ okay Mr expert in the comments section

[@JustinLesamiz]

@CharlesVanNoland You can say you're "well-rehearsed", whatever that means, but you'd still be confidently incorrect.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

@@JustinLesamiz If you think I'm saying that conventional rasterization techniques can replace raytracing then you're choosing to believe that I'm saying something that I'm not. I'm saying that in this specific instance, with this specific game, and what I've seen from the footage they've released thus far, they are not doing anything visually that can't be emulated or approximated sufficiently well without raytracing. Show me the integral graphics effects that DTDA just wouldn't be the same without that can only be done with raytracing hardware. I'm not seeing it.

[@xyttra]

I'm just happy I'll be able to play it on Ultra on my 7800 XT and my 1080p monitor B)

[@userbosco]

AM4 5800X3D + 4070, finger's crossed . SSD required?

[@pctechloonie]

Yes you need an NVME SSD.

[@ppevader-u2t]

It's 2025 dude. Get a damn ssd. I cannot stand ppl like you

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

This game is looking great, hopefully my 3070/12600k can get 1440p,100ish fps, high settings, RT with DLSS4 set to balanced

[@TDamsma]

I think it will run just fine. The system requirements are mostly overblown to make sure there is minimal buyers remorse. And with the 3070, you have dlss 2.0 as a backup.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@ dlss 2.0?

[@colemin2]

​@@TDamsmaHe will have access to dlss4 upscaling when Dark Ages releases.

[@serotepes1712]

@@heroicsquirrel3195dlss 2.0 is just the super resolution. If the game gets ray reconstruction you could use this too. DLSS4 is multi-frame generation that can only be used on rtx 50 series cards.

[@drunkhusband6257]

@@serotepes1712 DLSS4 is NOT multi frame generation. DLSS4 is the new version of dlss with the transformer model, two totally different things.

[@wblebon]

Incoming raw performance fps drop in native resoluion coming up what a wonderful tech really not like ray-tracing or A.I upscaling and multi fake frames optional while paying overpriced cards to Ngreedia

[@dun0790]

Completely disagree rich Nintendo directs are miles ahead i mean even boring ones produce anticipation like nothing else, with all that being said Microsoft is definitely on the right track funny as ever the eternal Microsoft problem we just need more game's lol but after decades they do seem to finally have a roadmap of titles in development like Nintendo and like sony used to 😅 also never thought but your slightly biased to Microsoft for understandable reasons lol

[@vampiszon6620]

I loved Eternal for it's fast paced gameplay. From what it looks rn it will be slower and more grounded which makes me sad

[@JustinceStJames]

Yeah but where else could Eternal possibly go with that formula? More of the same? It was bordering absurdity especially the Master Levels.

[@Aidan.17]

Damn another game trying to force us to upgrade to RTX enabled cards

[@drunkhusband6257]

RTX is the future. The first rtx capable cards came out 6 years ago, in 4 years I guarantee almost every major title will require RT

[@albanmarku6743]

It's 2025. It's like complaining about companies forcing you to buy 3d accelerated gpus from back in the day. Tech moves forward.

[@Kobalt_Rax_the_one]

@@albanmarku6743 Yes , is like people forgot completly , are hypocritical or just to young. I understand the frustration bc of today economy, i too get sometimes , not many can afford but the fact is , it happened before and will continue too , tehnology at some point evolves enough that you need to upgrade . Certain games, engines that utilize fully and push technologies, are demanding ofc , especially if you want everything at max settings . I remember Doom 3 , HL2 for an example were demending if you wanted to play at max settings and with great performance. Also now there are more options them ever before, you have GForceNow , if you can't play it at max settings or at all , you can there . I know bc i use it , since i can't afford for now and i am very pleased by it, it's great .

[@edmundmondo1682]

Why Alex still hasn't done a performance review of Final Fantasy VII Rebirth PC? I'm really looking forward to it...

[@TRONiX404]

Ooo u didn't hear, he's in the hospital with a brain aneurysm when he attempted it.

[@xNightHawk32]

Is a performance review really necessary though?

[@drunkhusband6257]

Maybe because the game is a piece of overrated crap that's a disgrace to the original

[@Heisenberg2097]

Did they manage to solve the seemingly most complicated issue since ages? Restarting the game without delay once you are dead. Currently I'm playing Doom - Eternal... and the delay after being killed and starting again S@CKS³.

[@roadtonever]

From now on you're Gomer Pyle!

[@mianlo2624]

Can't wait for the game to come out, so that Linus Tech Tips can play the game on a 8K with a RTX 5090.

[@fl00d69]

I _can_ wait for precisely the same reason. 😁

[@bricaaron3978]

He's already played games at 16K on a 4 x 4 display matrix several years ago.

[@06stiguy63]

Looks like i will be getting XB Game pass for a month again.

[@Vincornelis]

Looking good. Although it does look like I need to upgrade my cpu.

[@jacksnead2930]

I wonder if doom the dark ages would play better on PS5 or Xbox series X?

[@NeverSurrenderMAGA]

X has more power, PS5 will have minimal quicker load times

[@jacksnead2930]

@ you mean power as in smoother performance or power as in graphics?

[@ItsAkile]

Not sold on how sick it actually is from the videos, gonna have to explore om my own display

[@Crusty783]

guys give it to me straight, as i am incredibly stupid: do you think this game will be able to run on a steam deck OLED?

[@fl00d69]

If RT is a base requirement as they say, probably not.

[@BolshoyZloyDed]

It will run the same way Indiana does: unplayable

[@LiNK52500]

no

[@farisakhtar4824]

You can stream it hopefully

[@Sprite897]

The steam deck is rdna 2 so it does have hardware rt support, doom the dark ages will problably run but it problably won't run well. It might hit 30 fps.

[@TakisEnjoyer]

Dark Ages gives off me huge Far Cry/Halo Infinite/RAGE 2 vibes and I don't think that I like it for this series...

[@JimmyBellLoyal]

Has Richard put lipstick on?? 😂

[@EightshGames]

As someone who is currently playing DOOM Eternal religiously (for practice), I can confirm double dash and double jump exists in DE.

[@salty242]

he said from, not in

[@cmdrvalen]

That's not what he's talking about. There's no dash or double jump in The Dark Ages.

[@EightshGames]

@cmdrvalen Right. To be fair: I was half paying attention to what was said. 😄 What I heard just piqued my interest.

[@joncarter3761]

What makes me laugh about Doom tbh is that it's gotta work on an Xbox Series S... that thing is a complete potato in comparison to the PS5 or XB series X and is well bellow the minimum CPU requirements for the PC port! Makes me worry that they're not going to bother bringing those series S optimisations to the PC port so 6 core CPUs can play it or they've destroyed performance with heavy handed DRM :\

[@papaicruel]

So... Whitch processor and graphics card for the poor third world gamers? R7 5700X or R7 5700X3D? Nvidia RTX 3060 12gb or AMD RX 7600 8GB?

[@jake4500]

doom 2016 has prolly my favorite arena mp and seeing them constantly take steps back with mp is actually a huge disappointment. i dont get hyped day 1 for this type of single player bc i can play it later and hopefully its bargain by then. overhyped and a misstep imo

[@mllecamill3]

12:18 I can totally understand Alex! :D I'm the same. I can't play games anymore without ray tracing or path tracing.

[@ppevader-u2t]

That's sad

[@user-ye3qn8bj9c]

Please run on the steam deck

[@PaintsAreOp]

Nah, it needs hardware ray tracing

[@user-ye3qn8bj9c]

@PaintsAreOp shame

[@aolson1111]

@@PaintsAreOp It has hardware raytracing. It isn't powerful, but it exists.

[@xcrack6364]

Based on what they showed, it looks a lot less interesting to me than Eternal. Still looking forward to checking it out, but not as exciting for me really.

[@rakhoo5236]

TBH, when they were showing off Doom Eternal it didn’t look as good as it actually is. I’m sure there will be a much higher skill ceiling than shown in the gameplay teaser. Eternal will stay my favourite most probably but DA looks super promising and different but has more eternal DNA than 2016s imo.

[@Slinky511nx7]

Are we keeping the likes at 666?

[@GarethFairclough]

Doom hello kitty edition, incoming!!!

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Doom dark ages has no new tech they're using the exact same engine as the recent Indiana Jones game. I fix toilets for a living and I know this and you guys get paid to know about tech shit, wtf 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@bombyo3634]

Indiana jones don't look good to me.

[@Notacet]

Too much lasery particles and ui elements everywhere imo. If a game has nice gritty graphics, i’d like to see it

[@JustinLesamiz]

Modern ID loves to put "look how badass we are" in all their games. Classic Doom was never like that. It was far more restrained and the game spoke for itself. It didn't need to TELL you ever ten seconds how cool it was. It just WAS cool. That's the fundamental problem with modern ID.

[@drageras]

@@JustinLesamiz I would heavily argue DOOM 2016 would have failed pretty hard if it wasn't so overly in your face gory and over the top. They needed it to be cheesy and brutal and violent.

[@smittyvanjagermanjenson182]

Man, I'm really hoping SSR is only on consoles... after having years of RT reflections on in games, screen space is just ass

[@fcukugimmeausername]

I don't think SSR will be on PC as the base requirements is a RT capable GPU.

[@Schnoizl]

how to tell you have first world problems without telling you have first world problems...while making a poor flex attempt.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@Schnoizl No, Screen-Space so-called "Reflections" have always been ass.

[@SWOTHDRA]

​@@bricaaron3978not really, RT reflections are trash.

[@Vynzent]

I'm sure it will be on settings. In Eternal when you enable RT reflections it still uses SSR when the image will reflect properly then uses RT when the angle is too narrow to capture the screen. However you can use a command to completely disable the SSR in Eternal so it's always raytraced.

[@itsuadman]

Alex, can you turn the blinking blue lights in the background off in the future? Theyre terribly distracting. Otherwise, excellent coverage, cant wait!

[@MaxIronsThird]

this is a podcast... with video, the video is secondary.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@MaxIronsThird _Broadcast._ They're not broadcasting from an iPod.

[@shawnmacfarland3828]

John via Markdown! Take the time for yourself to get healthy John. We miss you man. Is there a way to purchase a subscription to get access to the DF Obsidian or KMS? There is a wealth of knowledge in DF enterprises and it would be cool to be able to browse through stuff especially paper links.

[@jasonsmith530]

Could be a good game to showcase on a PS5 pro

[@Grumbledookvid]

Looks shtty

[@bxqpxd]

IMHO they are underplaying idtech so much. It's just like engine is downsized to fit with the consoles. The design in DDA is "larger" but not "large" compared to previous iterations and it apparently comes with a cost of locking player to the ground and is watered down further with mount to fly and mech to control. They got the engine locked to Bethesda titles and my perception is that it slacks behind the industry with every title released. Look at Indiana Jones and the Great Circle based on idtech7. "Meh" would be an understatement.

[@thatsoulsguy3028]

Jesus this is boring

[@WarframeCrunch]

In my opinion it's a little lazy that they didn't done all that cool Glory Kill animations. But we get free movement so depends if it will be worth not having glory kills. I hope that all hard work for all kind of glory kills gone into making longer game. Also cool that they done something different, that you are now more like tank. But anyway I was a Tank and also fast in Doom Eternal with Minigun shield mod. Also sad that there is no multiplayer. I though that they are saying there is no PVP multiplayer, so there will be multiplayer as PVE, playing with friend or friends vs CPU demons. I heard that extra lifes are still in game. I hated those in Doom Eternal.... I hope you can actually turn them OFF in settings with the new custom difficulty sliders. Also afraid of game optimatization. Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal was well optimized, but there wasn't any real physics like with water or trees, it was just 100% about the gameplay. And here I see that my RTX2070 super can choke on the game :(

[@soulsbourne]

The new doom gameplay, especially movement and gameplay looks awfully like it was designed to go with VR to reduce the dizzy feeling with VR (since doom generally is fast paced run all over the place game and so can make you dizzy)

[@fl00d69]

Theres no way a twitch shooter like this will work in VR

[@bricaaron3978]

@@fl00d69 *"Theres no way a twitch shooter like this will work in VR"* What in the _heck???_ There is nothing correct about that statement. Virtual Reality is nothing more than high-FoV stereoscopy. Anything else, including head tracking, is optional. Any 3D game can be played in VR, as long as it doesn't have any design issues that cause things to render improperly in stereoscopy.

[@Kobalt_Rax_the_one]

Wow a pretty bad take .

[@fl00d69]

@@bricaaron3978 I guess that's why all the pros use VR huh 🙄

[@bricaaron3978]

@@fl00d69 I don't see your point. Are you saying that games are unplayable at 60 fps just because pros don't play at 60 fps? If you can play a game monoscopically, you can play it stereoscopically, providing you have an aiming reticule that works in stereoscopy.

[@danoobrien4410]

Will TDA run on ANY Handheld Gaming PC?.. 🤷

[@General_M]

Probably, they have RT capable hardware, and this will likely come to the Switch 2 as well so it should scale pretty well.

[@theanimerapper6351]

​@@General_Mthey have RT capable handhelds now?

[@ACallander22]

Maybe I'm an old fart but I miss scary, slow paced doom and over this run n gun CODish doom. I mean don't get me wrong, keep developing games but give us the scary, slow paced doom in between these dooms.

[@GallowayJesse]

Doom was always fast paced. Did you even play Doom 1 & 2?

[@bricaaron3978]

@@GallowayJesse He never said it wasn't.

[@bricaaron3978]

Atmospheric and immersive "Lonely Journey" games like Doom 3 are my favorite kind. But I also like faster-paced games like DOOM 2016. I guess my ideal Doom game would incorporate both elements.

[@Vynzent]

You miss the 1 doom game that wasn't very Doom-like? This new Doom is what Doom is supposed to be like. Creepy but not a horror game. Fast action.

[@spyro440]

Would look so cool but all these pink circles (WTF) and colorful, green markers just kills everything. What where they thinking?

[@TortillaPizzeria]

Gameplay takes priority over aesthetics, the green and purple circles help you recognize what to do in situations when you need info fast.

[@rakhoo5236]

You will be able to disable them just like in DOOM eternal. But in Eternal u usually don’t cuz it helps the gameplay.

[@NPC999]

The game is meant to be accessible to stupid people and noobs, like the previous two entries.

[@JustinLesamiz]

@@TortillaPizzeria Aesthetics are VERY important for a Doom game. A huge part of the old school games was aesthetics and tone. Aesthetics and gameplay should be a balanced marriage. Not one over the other.

[@JustinLesamiz]

@@NPC999 Exactly. It's such a shame. I wish they'd give the Doom license to some smaller studio that could make a very straight-forward and faithful Doom game. Modern id has too many shareholders to impress and the games cost way too much. If a Doom logo hadn't popped on the screen during the trailer, 15 year old me never would have known this was a Doom game. It bares almost no resemblance to Doom.

[@rodylermglez]

Everything about this game is perfect except that I think that making this game RT mandatory is absolutely stupid. My bet is that order came from Microsoft, trying to corral everyone to play it on Xbox. Not all of us Doom fans are PC hardware reviewer journalists with the privilege of keep toting the newest GPUs on the market, not in this economy, so xbox it will have to be for all of us... And honestly the visual uplift from the last game isn't that immediately visible. In fact when real RT techniques are on you have to know the kind of details you are looking for, because mostly if you blink you miss it, and even more so in games with this fast pace gameplay. Optional Path Tracing should for now be to future proof games. You just have to take a look at Steam's hardware survey to see that most are barely on 2070's. Unless id software does some sort of optimization sorcery 90% of PC gamers won't be able to run this above 20 frames per second.

[@AVerySillySausage]

60fps in pc requirements when 60fps on a keyboard and mouse in a doom game is literally lag... not a good sign.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@AVerySillySausage *"...when 60fps on a keyboard and mouse in a doom game is literally lag..."* Nope.

[@AVerySillySausage]

@@bricaaron3978 In a modern Doom game I mean, yes it is. For any fast paced FPS here you are flying around.

[@bricaaron3978]

@@AVerySillySausage It is literally no such thing, unless you've got some problems you need to sort out.

[@theanimerapper6351]

​@@AVerySillySausagethe dark ages will be far slower paced than eternal. It's more similar to the 90s doom

[@bombyo3634]

Forced RT? If so that's stupid

[@xNightHawk32]

Nah. Make the games pretty

[@bombyo3634]

@xNightHawk32 that's silly. Regular RT is pretty. Why force it. You killing gpus. The option to turn it off and on at will is better. It's called options

[@BolshoyZloyDed]

It's more profitable to lose playerbase with low gpu than to lose money, making baked light for them apparently

[@bombyo3634]

@BolshoyZloyDed I hear non stop how steam main gpu plays at 1080p. Probably 4060s or less cards. If majority isn't using 4080 an above and can't run ray tracing why do it. Every one don't have a 4070 which can't handle path tracing or a 4080 which can and is basically top of the line....at least not yet. So me being computer illiterate it sounds bad.

[@Kobalt_Rax_the_one]

@@bombyo3634 Because they are using it for other things rather than just lighting, devs are actually putting that tehnology to good use, you want to see that but i also get your point. Maybe you can still disable it .

[@wladdragwlya]

You think that this UI resembles in any way the dark ages? Why is it like in Star Trek? This is what you got when crazies took over the asylum, id Software

[@JonneBackhaus]

not happy about this game if the recomended specs are 60fps thats basically a slideshow for doom.

[@micahlindley7515]

60 fps is a slideshow? Bruh.

[@JonneBackhaus]

@micahlindley7515 it is for pc gamers (no offence to consoles)

[@jdanielortega]

DTDA gives Halo Infinte vibes in terms of freedom, map, and geographical variation.

[@BronzeAgePepper]

that game killed the franchise (again) so I hope it's nothing like that. Zero variety in locations, huge lack of polish in many places, and complete nothingburger of a story. "Day 1 Game Pass" definitely does not make me optimistic that non-subscribers won't be paying $70 for a $10-$20 campaign.

[@horrorjunkie96]

it's not open world tho

[@jdanielortega]

@@horrorjunkie96 Do we know this?

[@horrorjunkie96]

@@jdanielortega yes

[@dmospat]

They need to make a halo game

[@offroadskater]

Maybe I'm not seeing it, but I think the look of everything so far seems "samey". Everything is coloured in the same way. It just seems very flat. I can't really put my finger on it, but I'm inclined to say this looks boring and I used to love Doom. Maybe I'm getting old.

[@horrorjunkie96]

no I 100% agree with u. all the environments look generic but with a different colour filter each (like Doom 64) they all look pre-alpha and cobbled together with Eternal's level editor.

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Just like that Indiana Jones game they're using the same engine as, even though that's been out for a month so these guys are lying about there being any new tech in Doom

[@bricaaron3978]

*"...but I think the look of everything so far seems "samey". Everything is coloured in the same way. It just seems very flat."* In a way you could say the same thing about Doom 3 or F.E.A.R., and yet those are two of the most atmospheric and immersive games I've played. Unless I misunderstand what you are referring to. And you could say the same about DOOM 2016, but in that case it's the gameplay that makes up for it. Ultimately it's gameplay that is the most important aspect of a game.

[@bombyo3634]

​@bricaaron3978 those games are old. Some of us want innovation worth of 700$ consoles and 2$k pcs. We want more

[@bricaaron3978]

@@bombyo3634 The OP didn't say anything about technology. He is talking about the _look_ of the game. The way the environments are designed.

[@VicharB]

I remember playing and enjoying playing Doom, Doom 2 & Quake 1, but in past 20+ years I cannot imagine myself playing such games, I mean they are "baseless", kinda nonsense. :))) The graphics of The Dark Ages = definitely impressive ... but still not gonna play it. I hope there will be new, full blown, graphics and physics heavy Half-Life ... this one I shall definitely play. :P

[@bricaaron3978]

What do you mean by "baseless"?

[@VicharB]

@bricaaron3978 Frankly speaking I couldn't find a word(s), what I mean is you simply walk and kill, nothing else. :))

[@bricaaron3978]

@@VicharB You really think Valve is going to release Half-Life 3?

[@VicharB]

@@bricaaron3978 You really never know, but it would be cool to play it again with all the latest in tech.

[@Kobalt_Rax_the_one]

Pretty bad take there and hypocritical, in half life you also walk and kill, if you want to break everything like that.

[@joe7923]

Played Eternal to death. This looks...dull.

[@BrothersGrimmTales]

This channel has and always has been a playstation channel.

[@jaredweiman2987]

Let me guess, my 4080 can't run this?

[@Brandon_Mishima]

4080 can play this in 4k

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Really hope Doom drops the idiotic parkour type gameplay from Eternal.

[@nocfox3050]

Eternal's movement was probably the more satisfying things about the game tbh Also, In Dark Ages, Seems like you're more of a Tank, which is something I'm also looking forward to lol

[@paullucci]

The wall climbing especially has no place in an FPS like DOOM. I don’t know why they thought staring at a wall while holding a direction button (or analog stick) added an interesting layer to the DOOM formula, but they were f*cking wrong.

[@TheIvercon]

Felt more like they added it to increase total play time than anything.

[@DoubleJumpPunch]

Oh yeah, some parts were like some weird overly drawn-out homage to Super Mario with those timed platforms and rotating fireballs.

[@lcsper]

Hell no. It was amazing.

[@LLJVBass]

I'm ready for Doom Guy to feel like Doom Guy again. Eternal just felt like unsatisfying busy work

[@xzraiderzx308]

Yeah honestly, I beat it + DLCs on Nightmare and enjoyed it, but there’s no denying Eternals gameplay loop was just an ADHD simulator lol.

[@BronzeAgePepper]

this doesn't look much different still, you're still doing Glory Kills galore and juggling a million different mechanics instead of strafing and shooting like the old days, which fits with how they're treating Le Epic Doom Slayer as practically a Marvel superhero like a more violent Thor, instead of just a crazed grunt with a gun fighting for his life.

[@NeuroScientician]

No glory kills, Mick Gordon swapped for AI trash music, game dumbed down to the point that it looks like a mobile game. Genuinely disappointed.

[@jdanielortega]

You're right, not good changes at all in those flanks, I still have high hopes in the rest of the gameplay though, Dragon and Mecha riding might be game changers if done correctly.

[@GallowayJesse]

Glory kills were a cheesy "get-out-of-jail-free" card. This is better than having to watch cheesy animations while having temporary invincibility.

[@horrorjunkie96]

yeah it's the HUD that makes it look like a mobile game

[@kukri52231]

I can’t stand the choppy slow motion animations popularized by god of war. Makes the combat feel so clunky and slow.

[@bricaaron3978]

Why would they be choppy?

[@AVerySillySausage]

Doom should always be a high refresh rate experience. Why were they even showing 60fps as a target in their recommended specs for PC? If you are running Doom at 60fps, you are lagging or you are playing with a controller on console, you need to turn down your settings or upgrade. This RT requirement is concerning. My 3080 ran Doom Eternal on Ultra (not nightmare or RT of course) at 1440p native 240fps almost locked.... lets see how the 5080 does with this game. Considering the card is both more expensive and 4 years newer, there should be no issues... right.

[@BronzeAgePepper]

the eye can barely perceive past 60 fps, you just like when the computer make the big number on the line graph. Most of the people who even need to stay above 120fps at all times while they're getting gαпgbαпged on Ultra Nightmare Master Level difficulty are going to have their graphics set way the hell down anyways.

[@AVerySillySausage]

@@BronzeAgePepper Please shutup with that bs about what the human eye can perceive. It's completely nonsense. It can perceive way past 60fps, 60fps is choppy. When playing a fast paced shooter with lots of camera movement, even 120fps doesn't feel that good, it doesn't start to feel truly smooth until pushing the mid 100s and I could absolutely tell the difference 10/10 times. I didn't play on nightmare or ultra nighmare, I played on Ultra which is 2 steps down. I had RT disabled and I got 240fps native res 1440p on the same tier card at the time. If that performance is now not achievable then the optimisation has regressed.

[@BronzeAgePepper]

@AVerySillySausage u don't even play ultra nightmare, not reading allat, L + skillet issuance

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

It uses the exact same engine as that Indiana Jones game that runs like shit on anything but a 5090. So no such thing as new tech exists in this game because it's the exact same engine and tech as Indiana Jones, digital foundry are click baiting shills

[@bombyo3634]

Who are you? I play everything at 4k60 on my tv and I love it. I need nothing more or less. And I play on a controller. Everyone dont play like you do sir.

[@mohmoh-jd1fg]

"I don't like the smirk laugh you do; it feels like you're mocking hardware or games each time."

[@SixSioux]

ok now try to say that in english

[@mohmoh-jd1fg]

@SixSioux, English isn't my first language, dude. Bring something smarter... You got it very well, but smirking people are like twins-they feel the same hit."

[@happygofishing]

bro is crying because he insulted the xbox one lmao.

[@SixSioux]

@ "bring something smarter", said the boi dropping an idiotic comment below a random tech video in youtube. ok. go get a life, run run!

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

@@mohmoh-jd1fgyour comments make no sense man, no point typing in English if you make no sense

[@dukmahsik]

first!

[@emilgustavsson7310]

nah i'm just laggin.

[@itsuadman]

​@@emilgustavsson7310He used the old halo 2 router standby glitch and lagged you :(

[@WheeledHamster]

Just make DOOM scary again and drop all these arcadey gimmicks. It's been fun for two games but this is just more of the same crap!

[@PCZONE1]

I’d like a sequel to the doom 3 style these new dooms are good… but honestly starting to get over the arcadey feeling

[@winfriedmaus]

That's my problem: The arcade-style stuff was never fun. And I absolutely hated the jump & run stuff they overloaded Doom Eternal with. I absolutely hated Doom Eternal (just like I hated all of the new Wolfenstein games - Return To Castle Wolfenstein was the last good one). Doom 2016 was "okay", but Doom 3 was the last good Doom game. Especially when you play it in a dark room with headphones on.

[@jdanielortega]

Doom is not a horror game, doom is a fps with horror aspects. I really like the fact they're not falling into making a tacky copy of Amnesia or Outlast, that's not Doom, this is doom. If you liked Doom 3, you liked an exploration that treaded outside of what Doom is and was a commercial failure, and that is ok, but it's not sane to think id software will produce a AAA game aimed towards the 2% of the fanbase that preferred Doom 3 style over the original.

[@DeadPixel1105]

What are you talking about? The Doom franchise has always been fast-paced, arcade-y, not-to-be-taken-seriously action. Doom 3 was literally the only Doom game that went for a slow-paced horror approach. So why are you acting like the balls-to-the-wall action of Doom 2016 and Eternal is just some strange experiment?

[@paulogodinho3275]

Nah, we good.

[@carlosreeves2434]

Looks old gen.

[@ZsoltVajda]

Looks nothing like doom, its a hard pass for me, dawg. Doom without mars/UAC is no doom.

[@redield21]

Half true.. but doom2 is earth/uac

[@ZsoltVajda]

@ but its not full quake

[@ChrisCar-ym9ds]

First Doom that doesn't excite me one bit! Riding a dragon? Mech wars? What? Are we 14 years old? (I am more than triple that fyi) No double dash and jumps anymore?!🤯😵‍💫🤢🤮

[@DeadPixel1105]

Same feeling here. Despite Hugo Martin being a super cool guy, all the things he thinks are awesome and badass are pure cringe to most adults, including myself.

[@heroicsquirrel3195]

Bro you’re an old man, go play golf or something, games aren’t really made for old people lol

[@DeadPixel1105]

@@heroicsquirrel3195 Bro the people developing the games you love are older than you are. Hugo Martin and Marty Stratton are nearly 50, for example. And the original creators of Doom are about 60 years old now, yet they still love video games. So take your low-IQ "older people aren't into video games" nonsense elsewhere and go color in your coloring books.

[@ChrisCar-ym9ds]

@heroicsquirrel3195 My hip and lower back don't allow me to play golf anymore... I will stick to my pigeon breeding... and Doom Eternal untill eternity 😉

[@horrorjunkie96]

​@@DeadPixel1105we're in the minority thinking that aren't we 🥺 I agree tho. I hate his fan fiction superhero shit. the lore gets more and more nerdy as it goes along. someone needs to reign him in and tell him this is the Doom IP and not a generic sci fi fantasy game. 2016 nailed the Hell vibe. TDA just looks like Sentinel wastelands. it's boring. as much as everyone hates Marty he is a better director than Hugo is.

[@TickfordGhia]

Ill prob cop it for saying this. After what Bethesda & Marty did to Mick Gordon. This is a no buy or pirate from me.

[@Omarock]

This game has Denuvo, for that fact alone it will not see a cent from me.

[@TickfordGhia]

@@Omarock ive only got one denuvo game & thats Star Wars Outlaws. Only cause i got it for free. I refusemto buy anything with denuvo. I was switching between devices playing outlaws. And got locked out from playing it for 24 hours.

[@jaredweiman2987]

Yeah, same. tbh

[@TickfordGhia]

​@@Omarockyup im the same to. Ive only got one denuvo game. Star wars outlaws. Only cause i got it for free. Got locked out from playing it cause i was switching devices. 5 daily limit. Hope the day comes soon ubislop shuts down for good.

[@GlobgobGabgalab]

Who cares about that talentless hack Gordon and his atrocious soundtrack. F him, he got what he deserved. Really sick of his insufferable fanboys.