DI or RO - Pure Water Window Cleaning Systems

[@jenniferray7972]

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE ACTUALLY EXPLAINS HOW IT WORKS? amazing. Thank You.

[@mark100177]

What a great explanation. I was just watching videos about DI and going down a rabbit hole. I’m glad I didn’t have to go too far to see that it is preferred to use the ro and di together and not just the ro by itself.

[@superview9705]

excellent info. thank you! After 24hrs looking for something you explained it in 5 minutes.

[@wemerc1]

Great video bro, I've been researching pure water systems for a while. It's great to hear a pro brake down what all the parts do.

[@olivermarsh6899]

I use two squirts of Jet Dry in my unfiltered tap water and the results have been good enough to earn me $80k for a month of seasonal commercial work per year for twenty years. 45 ft. aluminum pole system is about $800, 1/4 hp pump is $299, 250ft. 1/4 in. nylon hose is $150, brushes are $20 ea. and some copper tube with holes drilled for the spray was $5. Old RCMP Suburban 2500 was $9k and the 5'x5'x4' water tank came on a high pressure, hot water sewer blaster trailer the city crew had dumped at the local metal dump. A Warwick Ind. 20' manlift also came from an old cable company van at the metal dump. Wiring, new hydraulic motor and mount welding, $900. All figures are CDN dollars.

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Awesome ! Sounds like a great setup !

[@davejarvis7522]

Thank you for the great simple but ample Midwest logic -- very good -- Dave --Denver

[@5678-i5d]

Excellent... you were really teaching the audience the difference, not merely explaining, and not easy to do, especially when put simply!

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Freshly Squeeged wow thank you very much! We are asked about this all the time, hoped this would help answer some of those questions.

[@kevinyawgel4228]

thank you for the clarification that you dont need the carbon filter with DI! I knew I wasn't crazy

[@jimvick8397]

So... Back when I washed windows in college, my boss (who was the owner) would send me out with mile of garden hose, a giant aluminum tucker pole, and the worse field repair kit you have ever seen... The guy had huge contracts all over the greater Seattle area (public, private, you name it). Turns out Seattle area water was between 140ppm -170ppm and we never used any of this filtration stuff... And me being new to window cleaning, I had no clue it was even a thing. Yet the windows always turned out looking awesome.... Fast forward to today I'm living in a place with water that ranges from 170-200ppm and I have some jobs that would be easy to rock with a tucker pole (COVID got me back into window cleaning)... Yet, I'm wondering, what do you actually get from any of these filtration systems in a lifetime? I used to do multi million dollar properties every day using no filtration on either tucker pole nor the pressure washer... And, I've personally seen new windows destroyed by hard water (200ppm), and know how long it roughly takes (a new wing was added to a building I did regularly, I told the landscape guys they were installing sprinkler heads too close to the windows and the overspray would ruin them, they didn't listen. Turns out I got to witness first hand the destruction process of the bottom 2 windows getting blasted by hard water sprinklers overspray around the whole building)... The sprinklers ran 1 hour in the morning and 1 hours in the evening every day, it took 3 days (6 total hours of hard water exposure) before any hard water spots started to appear upon close inspection (meaning, you had to clean and squeegee the window, then angle your face right, and you could begin to see the rings of mineral deposit forming). By day 7 (14 total hours of hard water exposure) for the stains to become obviously noticeable standing 3 feet away. After 14 days (28 total hours of hard water exposure) you could touch the glass start to physically feel the raised mineral stains, and by a month (50 ish hours of total hard water exposure), the raised stains become mounds that ceased to grow anymore and the glass was so rough it would just destroy a squeegee... So, my question is... If a water fed pole (using say 200ppm hard water) is on the glass for say 30 seconds and it takes 6 hours of constant hard water exposure (which equates to roughly 720 tucker pole cleanings) before hard water stains even become barely noticeable, how is the cost for such a system justified? Because the tucker pole jobs I did, they would never get done if you had to lug all that stuff around... But maybe my perspective is all wrong because I might have been taught to do windows by morons and not known any better...

[@dominic3811]

Thanks for this video buddy, super helpful. I'm headed into month 4 of my business and it's finally time for me to get a pure water system... This just saved me TONS of time & research!

[@AutoDudes]

Perfect. I have a TDS of 21 in South Carolina. So I’m buying a DI tank now! Thanks dude!

[@caseyarmy3747]

If it’s 21 you don’t meet it I wash all day up to 50 w no issues of spotting

[@sparxidigi]

21 lol....I have 800

[@scotthiles5653]

Your explanation was very clear and simplified. Thank you for that info.

[@preetmani4320]

Nly video you need to see if need any information on this topic.Thanks for posting bud.

[@GreatValleyWash]

This was insanely helpful. Thank you!!

[@Leyojokes]

This is as a great explanation. Thanks for sharing. Looking to get a system for my detailing business.

[@gibsonpascal2145]

Haven't got any of these yet, go to know when I need to invest in when the company grows

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Gibson Pascal well when that times comes if you need help let me know !

[@gibsonpascal2145]

Luke The Window Cleaner Thanks alot, will do

[@208Cashen]

Thank you Reanna and Luke, hope your fall season is going well? I just ordered a DI system. Where I live in Idaho most of the area is 100 ppm kinda late in the season for some, but I have new customers on Residential that want the WFP so its a no brainer for me. Investing in myself and time is how I look at it.

[@toiletbluedog]

Loved your video. Thanks for dummying it down for me. I try & explain this to people but it doesn’t come out right.

[@zackjohnston-watson4874]

Great video. We have to run a four stage system some of the areas we work have pretty dirty water.

[@ryanfewster574]

👍🏻 good info just got my xero pure 2 weeks ago

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Ryan Fewster that's awesome ! How are you liking it ?

[@squeakycleandave1]

Great video. My little bro was using double DI which cost him load until he got his RO. The only advantage is there is no waste water

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Thanks man, totally agree ! With higher tds a ro is a no brainer in my opinion, as long as you're using pure water daily or a few times per week

[@joshdicus2906]

Good explanation! I just made a video about my full set up for $500. Like you said, I only use it about once or twice a week. So it just makes sense for me.

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Josh Dicus I saw that video. And you're right , a pure water system doesn't make you a window cleaner. Not at all, it's just another tool in the arsenal.

[@petebowl7946]

I don’t see your account has any videos…

[@torreswindowcleaningmemo8210]

For the past 5 years I used I di tank but I wanted to get fancy and I didn't research enough about the xero pure system so long story short I'm struggling big time with the water pressure on the zero pure it sucks and I'm having to connect a pump almost every job now all this jobs are the same customers I clean with my Di tank has no problems!! Is there anything I can do ? I already replaced all the small hoses for bigger ones still no change😡

[@MrAtrain50]

Yay new video!

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

FluffyBadger it's almost that time again !

[@MrAtrain50]

Luke The Window Cleaner Woo!! Just want to say thanks! I have learned a ton from your channel. I have cleaning windows for about a year and it felt like a job. After seeing how much there is to window cleaning and all the cool setups, I have really enjoyed cleaning windows. I am using your belt setup... Just wow! Amazing different on my work flow compared to my previous belt. I work for a franchise and I might create a video showing my belt setup (technically yours, you will receive credit in the video) I am sure it would have all of our franchises out there.

[@bmobley1]

Where do you get your resin, and which brand and mix/ type do you use?

[@scottmikula5467]

Great Video. Thanks for the easy to understand explanation

[@benderprofessionalservices9018]

About how many houses with normal windows can you wash with just the Deionizer tank. Tku

[@katog169]

How many houses can you typically run through before you have to change the resin?

[@santi8751]

Can you make a video on how yo maintaince the Xero ro system

[@Alohakoa59]

How often do you change the ro and what’s the cost? Same with charcoal filter?

[@EricThomasBland]

Great info brother

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Window Cleaning thank you!

[@sjsargea]

Huge help. Great info Luke thanks!

[@leilanisdaddy]

Nice video man!!! Happy 4th of July

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Jonathon Garcia sorry for the late reply and thank you!

[@leilanisdaddy]

Lol your good man. You just a busy man.

[@Index-o1234]

Good information

[@ArtK175]

It would help newbies to explain first what "RO" is and what "DI" is.

[@AutoDudes]

Thank god for the water in South Carolina, 21 TDS out of my faucet!

[@royaltykidstv]

Is 21 good? The lower tds the better?

[@eriksoncanenguez]

Thanks for this video!! I really understand now!

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Erikson Medina you're welcome glad it helped !

[@orozco53204]

Where can i buy that tester

[@mackthomas8750]

If you have a TDS of 300 could you buy a 2 L di vessel if you're just using it on your own house

[@landonrobbins3728]

How often do you have to change out the filters on the Xero pure? When do you have to change the RO?

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Landon Robbins the resin lasts for a few months and the ro should last for a long time. Some guys it lasts for years. All depends on care , tds and how often you're using it

[@frankpirrone6032]

Miss this channel. Like is top notch!

[@boromir408]

Hey, Luke just wanted to give you some additional information from a water treatment point of view. So all water has Calcium and Magnesium (both of which have a positive charge) in it, the more you have the harder the water is. Now the reason you have to exchange the resign is that when Calcium and Magnesium pass through the resign (which is saturated with Sodium ions) they will exchange their place with the Sodium ion. Now in traditional water softeners at home, you would backwash with a strong sodium solution to replace the sodium ions on the resin that were lost, but because you can not do that on the IO systems you have to replace the resigns. Also, the way a RO membrane works is they are constructed with tightly wound fibers (I want to say they are fiberglass) water is being forced through those fibers leaving behind any impurities. PS. Love the videos man! Source: I am a Water Treatment Operator :)

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Thanks for the insight!

[@patrickdelaney2925]

typically how long does your r/o membrane last. i built my own system for under $500. my membrane lasted only about a year, the area here has lots of wells though.

[@scottr8588]

Happy 4th Luke an Brianna... What woukd you say is the average life span in gallons for the DI before the resin needs to be changed.

[@scottr8588]

Never mind Luke, I found my answer under the Vigin Resin link you left for us.

[@anthonylee37]

Where did you get the DI tank

[@leathercheerio1]

So its like a water softener

[@drwhowhogrub3908]

Hi, does the water pressure coming out of either of the two options differ? Eg: is it lower pressure from either of the two? Thanks

[@gabescharfenberg7820]

Thanks for the video! How do you know when the resin needs changed? Is it just whenever the output TDS readings start going up?

[@user-ni3dz3uh2g]

when its above 007

[@patrickdelaney2925]

i was able to make my own ro/di system for less than $500. carbon filter takes our chlorine which harms resin too.

[@jetstartransportation3366]

Patrick Delaney, that's great... care to share the process?

[@aallard3959]

The TDS in my area is between 20-60.... everywhere....really wishing I only bought a DI.... my machine cost so much :(

[@sivram435]

Aallard here it's between 120-200

[@sivram435]

Aallard 344.5

[@talkcoordinator5530]

Thank you for the video! I noticed you also use the Tucker. Do you prefer one over the other? I cant decide between Xero and Tucker or if the packages are a good idea compared to getting the items separately.

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Talk Coordinator thanks ! We use both poles. I prefer the Xero Ultimate to The Tucker pole.

[@southbaysugaring2105]

How long did 1 bag of particles last you ?

[@takingeastside4jesusvo430]

Where do I get that water tester?

[@DayStarQuality]

Do you lose flow using the 3 stage system? I have used the di resin many years no problem with water flow! Thanks for your w.c content!

[@jasonyoung4023]

You do lose a lot of flow using an RO system but as long as the hose bib pressure is at least 45psi you will have enough pressure to run one pole. If you want to run two poles you need at least 65psi.

[@DayStarQuality]

@@jasonyoung4023 Is 45psi common pressure on most residential external water faucets? Thanks for the reply!

[@jasonyoung4023]

@@DayStarQuality I will see anywhere from 45-80psi around town on houses.

[@DayStarQuality]

@@jasonyoung4023 Just curious...what RO systems you're running with your set up?

[@jasonyoung4023]

@@DayStarQuality the Aquaclean caddy from Ettore

[@johnnyvinson5656]

The TDS in my area is 349.5

[@kennith.]

Can you not regen the resin?

[@Scott.Farkus]

@Luck The Window Cleaner :The Reverse Osmosis tank; isn't that basically the same thing as the tank on a water well system? BTW that link says my TDS is 0 That has to be a bug Good info BTW, thanks.

[@LuisSalazar-kl2df]

Great video Luke! How often, if at all, should the RO be replaced?

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Luis Salazar could last for several years if taken care of. Changing out your carbon filter and back flushing the system regularly should help prolong the ro filter

[@rolandz8992]

hi is there any quality difference in resin, how I know if I buy good quality I'm in the Philippines, its all-new here

[@vincemarquezjr9415]

would there be a difference if the RO filter and the DI tank were swapped in your 3 stage set up? I was under the impression from talking to someone in the car wash business that a 3 stage system went 1. Charcoal Filter, Water Softener (DI) and then RO Filter. Just curious on you thoughts regarding that. Thanks in advance.

[@petebowl7946]

Why would you abused the DI resin so much when you can take out 90%+ of the TDS with the RO system before? In your example they’re would be no reason to even have a RO stage 3 because the DI on stage 2 would reduce your TDS ppm to zero. You would be burning through a lot of resin and would be running already pure water through a RO membrane which would be doing nothing at all.

[@michaeldemanovich4717]

Can you flush you RO tank to get the cotaminants out?

[@BackflipBoyswindowcleaning]

Good info love my 3 stage xero pure. Plus you can run it DI only if needed./ James Riley

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Backflip Boys thanks James! How was your 4th man?

[@ryanmossaway970]

Holy shit! Our water is at 21 ppm on a bad day. What makes tap water upwards of 300 ppm?

[@colleenfarquharson9072]

What type of resin ion or cation ?

[@dougfeehan8421]

Great video

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Doug Feehan thank you!

[@poleskloset2149]

Thank you for your share, it's a pH number is important too? and iTDS must 0 or can be between 0 - 5? cheers from Indonesia

[@caseyarmy3747]

I run up to 50 tds w no issues most of it is for sales.

[@Locdog719]

Question for you Luke. How long will the Xero pure system last before having to change anything out? Let's say your running it every day.

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Magic Don Juan really depends on your tds . Do you know what yours is ?

[@Locdog719]

Luke The Window Cleaner I am looking into buying one. Just getting my business off the ground. I would rather buy a very good quality one right out of the gate though.

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Magic Don Juan are you ready to purchase one now ?

[@Locdog719]

I'm not ready to buy one now. Don't want a cheap one, I would rather wait until I have enough cash for a quality system.

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Smart! Dont rush it ! Like I said when you are ready I'll help out !

[@bradcruise9730]

U mention some put a filter on thier resin cylinder is thier any benefit at all to that

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

That's a carbon filter, and no I tried it and didn't see any benefit of using it with a di tank

[@richardwise350]

the main reason i dont like to use my 3 stage system is water flow and water pressure. I get way better flow and water pressure with my Unger Hydro Power

[@puertoricojourney9785]

Hey Luke! I’m about to get a xero water fed package but before I do just curious what size pole you use the most or recommend I get?

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Hard to say. What is your commercial/residential split ?

[@puertoricojourney9785]

Luke The Window Cleaner I do mostly residential, 2nd story sometimes 3 stories, thanks for the reply!

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Absolutely! I'd recommend a 30 ft. If you can swing it a 40 is nice just to tackle almost any home thrown your way , but it's a bit more pricey. A 30 should be just fine. Have you spoke with john Lee at wcr?

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

I can get you in touch with him if you'd like

[@puertoricojourney9785]

Luke The Window Cleaner nice! I was thinking about going for the 40 just to be safe but wasn’t sure if that is a little much to use all the time. Thanks for the inspiration I really can’t tell you how how much you have helped me with starting my window cleaning Buisness. I’ll be sure to let John know you inspired me to finally get one! 🤙

[@TenkaiGTPS]

hey the link for the tds website isn't working, is it just me?

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

It's probably not. The video is like 5 years old. Idk just look it up.

[@TenkaiGTPS]

@@LukeTheWindowCleaner could you send me another link? if its not too much trouble

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

I don't do all that youtube work anymore 😀😀😀

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Google is your friend!

[@TenkaiGTPS]

@@LukeTheWindowCleaner i found a website but it’s usa based not canada based

[@ronniewalker4944]

Hi luke and reanna I need your help I started my own company about 2 months ago and I only have 3 clients I do have business cards and I have been passing them out is there something else that I can do to get more clients I really want my business to grow

[@LukeTheWindowCleaner]

Ronnie Walker hi! I'd be happy to help, join our community and we can share some ideas ! lukethewindowcleaner.com/community/

[@toiletbluedog]

Ronnie Walker . I got my clients by doing my friend’s windows for free. All his neighbors came out and watched me. After that everyone in the neighborhood hired me.

[@donnymagana3449]

How many gallons does a 3 stage system do versus a DI tank?

[@Robert-ij9ih]

First 😎👊

[@Laffy1345]

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