Editor's note: When Wudi says "You can get 25 ranks..." he doesn't really mean you. Not you, not me, not your Diablo buddy. He's mostly talking about Maxroll team members.
@Freshy3006 ай бұрын
How to become invincible: stay in town, nothing can hurt you there.
@bungmonkey22956 ай бұрын
A common tactic in d2 pvp lobby where a druid would camp just inside town so their grizzly was able to wander outside and kill injured players trying to escape back into town haha
@jondalton26546 ай бұрын
Hahahah that is amazing.
@piotrkosztirko4386 ай бұрын
To all those saying perma FS is easy: you don't know what you're talking about. Min req. = 50% CDR, GA FS armor or MW Crit'd perf base FS armor, FS duration tempers on all defensive slots, hectic aspect on *amulet,* and 10x basic attack casts to keep it up. Oh, and if you miss one you die (i.e., doing anything other than casting means you're altering your base FS refresh rate, which then has to be accounted for in real-time or you die). (Note: I'm on console, so IDK if the latter is somehow diff on PC. I hear you guys can bind keys such that skills auto-cast somehow ...) And let's say that u want to run Raiment instead of FS armor - well now you need 70% CDR, which means 3x crit CDR on items that allow it, and 2 of which have to be GA CDR affixes to begin with. GL with that. Barb is the real issue. All his DR comes from 1 source - a passive - meaning he doesn't even have to press a single button to be invincible (truly skill-less gaming), and just needs to stack in 1 thing to boot (which makes things much simpler). Like, honestly: who gets + to ranks as a temper anyhow? That's ridiculous.
@XaKeR1676 ай бұрын
There is actually 1 more dodge aspect, the one that heals you for 20% for every dodge and gives 8% as well.
@TheMindfulOne6 ай бұрын
You know what else is unhealthy for the game? Having reached the caps in all resistances and armor, with 40k health ,and getting 1 shot by a lvl 60 pit boss or the summon.
@fgagaerhjhjyfyjfyyjkf6 ай бұрын
Yeah
@bungmonkey22956 ай бұрын
I use a bash barb to farm pit for mats for my regular characters. He's got 70k life and lots and lots of dr I still have to use hectic aspect with iron skin spam to not die
@im72544 ай бұрын
1 shot or have to shoot at boss hp bar for an hour. they seem to either set boss hp at 1 or integer overflow
@qwodge6 ай бұрын
"Druid has nothing" - Season 4 theme in a nutshell
@enthusiasticgamer886 ай бұрын
These methods are not an issue. I've played 200 hours this season and can clear pit 105 in 5 minutes. The amount of grinding required to farm the gear, get all the correct tempers and masterwork with 3/3 hits is insane. You're talking thousands of hours frankly which basically no one has the time to invest so therefore doesn't impact 99.9% of players. The fact these things are achievable is cool but they are unobtainable for basically everyone so who cares??? The only somewhat feasible one is sorcs with perma flameshield and they are already pretty handicapped so I could care less.
@systemtrend31946 ай бұрын
I would actually agree with this. The majority of players can't achieve this and I would actually say if you put enough time in then maybe you deserve to be immortal lol.
@L00TxGoblin6 ай бұрын
This issue is yet again there is no consideration for PvP and yet while still not a huge player base plays this makes more not want to play due to no balancing. Yes while quite hard to obtain there are people who spend real money on items so it can turn into a pay to win. There should be a cap, a high one and costly is fine but to be 100% immortal is kinda pointless in a hack n slash game for more then 20 minutes lol
@stephenzajonc47666 ай бұрын
Yeah, I get bored after doing about 10 pits and want to take a break. I enjoy the leveling and theory crafting and building but after a while the same farm gets tiresome.
@systemtrend31946 ай бұрын
@@L00TxGoblin Also any crazy game mechanics like this shouldn't be applicable for pvp.
@blazedehart27486 ай бұрын
100% is not relevant for 99% of players. Having to roll perfect GA affixes and go 3/3 Masterworking is an absolutely insurmountable wall that’s impossible for the 99% to ever reach.
@SheeeeeshClips6 ай бұрын
"Druid has nothing" is an understatement lol
@Zikkar6 ай бұрын
Also not true. You can use roar basically always so yea not true at all
@juno15976 ай бұрын
@@Zikkar Yeah Wudi is right, you can't abuse roar to become immortal compared to other classes.
@lukebrady656 ай бұрын
You could have enough cool down but it's too much of a sacrifice
@juno15976 ай бұрын
@@lukebrady65 yeah that's the point, and even with cool down reduction, it will still be unreliable in certain scenarios.
@OhZordan6 ай бұрын
@@Zikkar That can never go above 70%. You might feel pretty unkillable until 113-114 but when you go past that 70% damage reduction is still a one shot death even with 100k+ life.
@defilerzerg91526 ай бұрын
I am amazed how D4 devs managed to avoid using _both_ technologies from previous games: diminishing returns from D2 and “this skill's cooldown starts after skill duration ends” from D3.
@Sknerus896 ай бұрын
They just didn't think it thru. These examples are not needed to fix the perma fs sorc, there is a thing that they did to remove the clutter from dust devils/ Frozen orb, or they did a thing with frost nova etc, where it can only get 100% bigger size. That's the solution for FS too, just add max value. Say that your duration from tempers can't exceed 50% total, thats all. No need to RIP the builds in this game, by adding CD starts after CD ends. This would be very sad for anybody :) Oh and fyi, for the sorc to actually roll with this build, you need like 5B gold, or play fuckton and get the specific GA on items yourself.
@venice7416 ай бұрын
They are different IP under the same company, I doubt between the team they even have any collaboration.
@animalchin50826 ай бұрын
@@venice741 This its not just about different teams. The people who worked on D2 have been gone for decades and D3 was finished in 2012 so probably not too many people working on d4. Many of the Things like the clunky inventory issues, dungeon mechanics (especially wait times when porting or having to travel there earlier) make me feel like this team is quite inexperienced with ARPGs
@DavidT8116 ай бұрын
I don’t want to be perma FS forb sorc. The game balance forced us into these kinda builds. If we did more dmg then maybe we could invest in defense
@heliobarbosa35256 ай бұрын
I do think that is a nice trade off, tho. In order to have my immortal barb to play watching Netflix, I need to waste a lot of mats on a helm worse than an unique helm that will make my damage suck a little bit, limiting my pit ceiling. There is a choice. Otherwise, the only choice is L2P a little bit + hope your recent graphics card driver is working flawlessly + restart the game once in a while due to memory leaks + play the same top 1 cookie cutter build, with the lingering issue of the actual tactics involved are more simple than D3. Tl,dr: now you have 2 choices - immortality x damage ceiling. It used to be one choice less (some classes benefit of having a char for speedclearing/farming and another build for pits, now you can have an immortal alt for giggles on top of that). But yeah, fix sorc. A lot of things are wrong, everything sucks being a worst offender than perma flame shield. Trust me, I like to play druid, it is the class I know the most. There is 1-2 top builds, but the vast majority of the tree is fun/functional, like trampleslide bear, poison werewolf. Most classes aren't even fun outside of their cookie cutter builds.
@arturo_cruz6 ай бұрын
why do you think they gave sorcs a Flame shield duration temper, it wasn't by accident.
@maxmustermann39386 ай бұрын
No, nothing is forcing you to play that build.
@MajorCanada6 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is ELITE! Love it!
@petronetto6 ай бұрын
I agree the outcome is ridiculous, but all of these setups are incredible hard to achieve
@MoZz..6 ай бұрын
SAme with Sorc, you need perfect.. PERFECT GA cooldown on gear with perfect tempering on flameshield and GA attack speed aswell. Just one item with GA Cooldown items with correct stats sells for billons of gold, so buy one is also pretty impossible.
@heliobarbosa35256 ай бұрын
Butal honesty time: - I want a challenge sometimes. That's why I preordered Elden Ring DLC - When I'm playing D4, I want to feel like an immortal god deleting screens. I wouldn't never opened D4 looking for a challenge. Since pits are a time trial and you will start failing with the immortal builds (not using an unique helm can be huge on barb, not sure about other classes), let us waste a ton of mats trying to get our immortal builds up and running, don't fix it on S5. It is a game aiming to please casuals, anyway... Embrace that, devs, don't nerf the silly things. Edit: I don't really see the deal of making D4 something it is not - a super challenging game. They would need to overhaul a lot of things before doing that - like some hit boxes, performance hiccups, rubberbanding, etc. I have no trouble killing anything but a couple bosses in Elden Ring, but most things feel "fair and square" - I'm not terrible. I can't make sense of some Uber Lilith abilities and I died a couple times in Helltide because a player was on my TP triggering whatever harbinger stuff and my graphics card didn't load things in a timely manner. So let me have the fun stuff while still not clearing max level pit anyway. And you - @Wudijo - know deep down that whatever they design with their wide audience in mind, you will crush it in one week or two, if is mathematically possible. The game will be as easy for you if they remove those things, but it would be one less things for the power casuals to strive for - immortality.
@flowqi2126 ай бұрын
If you remove the defense tempers for Barb, they will be in serious trouble. People tend to forget that you have to fight in melee range and loose a lot more DPS than range classes if you can't face-tank some attacks. Nerfing those tempers by 50% would be very painful, but might be acceptable 😬. Better just stack DR multiplicatively as any other DR and leave the rest as it is 😅
@mtchl86 ай бұрын
you can still spam bash and win so it doesn't matter.
@HuricaneDitka6 ай бұрын
If I invest lots of time and craft perfect gear we should be able to do broken things in the game. Thats the hook that keeps you grinding 100s of pits. If end gear is just damage increases Im gonna lose interest fast. Also I dislike them trying to perfectly balance all classes, just put leaderboards in the game for each individual class. The individuals fun should be a higher priority then some overall meta or balance. TLDR LET ME DO BROKEN SHIT WITH PERFECT GEAR!
@subzero3086 ай бұрын
Exactly 100% agree if i cant be immortal in a game im farming perfect gear for then what is the point of even playing the game in the first place? Im not playing the game to be balanced with everyone else im playing so i dont have to "play" the game anymore and i can just 1 shot everything in the game that's my true end game. If im not supposed to achieve that then once i hit lvl 100 in each season guess the game is over for me then 😂😂
@systemtrend31946 ай бұрын
@@subzero308 agree
@mooseaf35156 ай бұрын
Ehh being powerful is cool. Being permanently immune is a kids game.
@ttrapp246 ай бұрын
Great video as always ty for the information... and not just keeping this knowledge for the people who if you know you know... Truely appreciate your work for the community...
@Brontux6 ай бұрын
I dont think this is a problem at all. Building your character to overpowered or invincible over time is what I like about the game currently. The dodge-fest that lilith currently is, is not fun imo.
@bmark69716 ай бұрын
Especially given the bugginess of the fight. Her abilities are bugged, she hits areas that aren't reflected in the attack marker. Even the slightest bit of lag hiccup during the orb chase and your dead. Her waves are wider than the animation. It's garbage tbh. Forces you to way overpower for the fight to skip the BS. The difference between using movement speed gear is atrocious. Basically locking slower builds out of the fight because no matter your DR your getting 1 shot. It's almost amazing to me how such a terrible experience could have made it into the game. Not just that but also becoming such an important seasonal quest when you know the fight is absolute trash.
@BrokenxPvP6 ай бұрын
@@bmark6971skill issue
@WestWrestling066 ай бұрын
and reasons like this is exactly why pvp should not be in the game and why anything pvp related should be removed from the season journey. If people want to pvp then they can instance up for an arena like in WoW.
@robertwelch14436 ай бұрын
An instance would be nice.. but don’t take away the only thing PvP has 😂
@quitwastinmytime6 ай бұрын
cooldown reduction maybe has to work like lucky hit insofar as each skill gets a 0%-100% cooldown reduction effect
@esvban6 ай бұрын
Cdr is already capped at 75
@Knights_of_the_Nine6 ай бұрын
What a great thumbnail, lol.
@shulehr6 ай бұрын
damage reduction is not exponential... it is logarythmic. HP and DMG scaling are exponential on the other hand.
@wilsonjp236 ай бұрын
I think he meant to say that these passives are giving you exponentially more effective DR since they are essentially giving you DR as a linear function of the passive ranks. While it is true that DR is logarithmic for all other sources, this is breaking the mold, hence why they are potentially an oversight.
@juno15976 ай бұрын
Blizzard should do us all a solid and give Wudi a room at Blizzard HQ so in-between his blast sesh he can fix the game for them/us.
@sppd1006 ай бұрын
It’s not just Wudi
@juno15976 ай бұрын
@@sppd100 He's the chosen one.
@pharismo96 ай бұрын
So basically, as long as you are a streamer or play this game non stop to achieve perfect gear rolls you can become invincible, got it. While I agree the devs should put some form of limitation on the calculations for this kind of stuff. I always feel like a lot of these types of games are balanced around extremely hardcore gamers and when they decide to nerf stuff into the ground, its because they see what people are capable of doing yet don't account what is required to even achieve those levels of power....and 99% of the playerbase will never even get there.
@Sppl186 ай бұрын
didnt they change dex in d3 from dodge to armor like 10 years ago? im wondering why they did that :D
@micbln89676 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure the reason you only show this in a builder and not inagme is, taht even you playing 24/7 didn't manage to actually build this.
@maxmustermann39386 ай бұрын
When you have to triple crit this many high rolled tempers, I don't think that those builds are actually an issue. This takes insane investment, it has heavy RNG and you are sacrificing offense doing it. I am perfectly fine with becoming invincible after investing a LOT in an RNG heavy tempering/masterworking system. The only real problem I see here is honestly flame shield. That one is easy to get for a basic attack build and full unconditional immunity. Infinimist as you said really isn't much of a problem anyway.
@systemtrend31946 ай бұрын
agreed
@piotrkosztirko4386 ай бұрын
Perma flame shield isn't as easy as you think. You need around 50% CDR minimum, along with either GA FS armor or crit'd perf base FS armor and tempers on all defensive slots that allow it. You'll also need Hectic aspect on your amulet + 10 casts of a basic skill each time you want to refresh. And if you want to run raiment instead of FS armor, then you need around 70 CDR ... Which means 3x crit tempers on the CDR slots on your gear. GL with that. Now, realistically - Barb is the real issue. He gets all his DR from a single PASSIVE, meaning he doesn't even have to press a single button to be invincible, and can just dump all his efforts into 1 area. Cheese.
@systemtrend31946 ай бұрын
@@piotrkosztirko438 not really. Any of these methods wudijo is talking about require crazy luck and resources to achieve that 99% of players will never get in a season.
@piotrkosztirko4386 ай бұрын
@@systemtrend3194 ... Huh? 🤨
@stephenzajonc47666 ай бұрын
If you use ring of sacrilegious souls and permanent blood mist up time you are constantly throwing corpse explosions, tendrils, and raise skeletons - even in blood mist. I was doing that for a while in mid level pits for brain dead farming… and my blood mist wasn’t on a permanent cooldown. I swapped to a little more interactive build for a little more damage thou later.
@tuffscoot11336 ай бұрын
What about ice armor and the affix that makes u unstoppable with high cold down on gear pretty much have ice armor up all the time as well doing the same thing while increasing mana
@emilnguyen6 ай бұрын
If you are unstoppable you still take damage
@flowqi2126 ай бұрын
Ice Armor effectively doubles your HP and has extremely fast regeneration, but you are not invincible.
@manfredhoudek23856 ай бұрын
There's one other way on Rogue I have been theory crafting using Temerity pants to shield you for 80% of your health for 8 seconds. Not entirely invincible but close to it. Stack/perfect master craft items with siphoning passive, this will give you 85% chance on critical strike to get 21% healing. If you add 2% vamp power aspect,this will get you to 23%, if you have shako thats another 4%. There's an aspect which also gives you 40 resource if you heal for 20% of your life. If you stack either healing recieved or barrier generation can either increase healing or increase barrier power. Nearly permanent barrier and massive resource generation.
@feldon276 ай бұрын
With heart seeker I have somehow mastered both doing very little damage AND being quite squishy. Keeping enemies frozen while I chip away at them is all that works. Lol
@Danny-zw7sw6 ай бұрын
I thought damage res was capped at somewhere around 85 when them low life builds with Druid were around so the barbarian one should work or did something change?
@Ty33Budd6 ай бұрын
The Agile mechanic will take a lot of CD micro managing wouldn't it. to only last 3 seconds, most of your focus will be on CD's instead of the action on the screen.
@ccdsah6 ай бұрын
Great vid! In Blood mist you can explode corpses and the minions can still do a ton of damage. Anyway, love this season got Anecro to level 100, now a Sorc up to level 91 and the enxt is a Rogue
@teanymonster52276 ай бұрын
the game is to easy either way, but why didnt i see someone put T200 pit with an invincible character or did i miss something?
@Velheibgnar6 ай бұрын
How it goes when you don't go over 100% let's say 70% reduction but more life? If you cannot get above 100% getting life should be very strong right?
@iatwiatw6 ай бұрын
Yep, if you plan on fully masterworking your loadout, push pits, or farm tormented uber bosses, you should get as many max life affixes and paragon nodes as you can. Royal rubies too of course. If you can fit Temerity and some life gain, you can also nearly double your effective hp with its barrier.
@hiddenxalpha70536 ай бұрын
So the first barb is.. clickbait because its "only VS elites", Both of the rogue builds are clickbait.. because "Not everything can be dodged"..
@Sknerus896 ай бұрын
no... elites are everything you care to avoid in d4... and for rogue, it means that if you see a green goo pool under your feet that is about to explode in 3 seconds, you have to side step it, but then again, if u have max res it shouldnt kill you anyway.
@Dafabi6 ай бұрын
You have to have perma flame shield on sorc or you die in a hit. That’s just the reality of it.
@zaann15506 ай бұрын
Not true at all. Sorcs can be very tanky, says my eternal HC sorc from beginning of game that still runs around in pits.
@joshbassford75036 ай бұрын
Druids can gain damage immunity if 100% uptime of lacerate. Lol, which is a build I'm currently trying to work on.
@Cragfire6 ай бұрын
Ive been trying to ell people about Martial Vigor for weeks, but it's generally gone ignored. It's super good.
@Jorf886 ай бұрын
I think the simplest solution would be to cap the maximum rank that a skill can be taken to. Let's say 4x the maximum natural rank it can be specced. So, 3/3 passives can go up to rank 12. 5/5 skills can go up to 20. As for dodge... I'm not sure what the best solution there would be. I'm tempted to go the poe route and say that dodge hard caps at 95%? 95% dodge is certainly not invincible, but it's absolutely worth striving towards because it feels incredible to play. The above skill rank cap would also assist with keeping those numbers more reasonable.
@vest0levs6 ай бұрын
Invincible? What's wrong with accept death like a man and start over?
@cremeofclubs6 ай бұрын
Amazes me this stuff constantly makes it to the live game, you dont need to be a game dev to see it.
@wilsonjp236 ай бұрын
Ive known about this for a while. Good luck hitting mwx3 on all those passive. And also, good luck on tempering with 1/8 odds. Who cares if this is achievable after 500 hours of grinding?
@moe.ron4life3996 ай бұрын
I agree, seems stupid
@BenK123456 ай бұрын
right.. congrats you've won the game. most people who don't play d4 as a job are never going to hit it
@esvban6 ай бұрын
Not needing GA gear already makes it easier though.. could just temper random usable stuff until you get it, even starting with new piece if it fails master working
@wilsonjp236 ай бұрын
Ok so you solve defense. Now what? You still need offense to beat the game. Honestly this is rather irrelevant since barbs are already practically immortals and stacking agile for rogue is stupid if you don't have ways to mitigate other attacks that pierce through dodge. The only game changer is flame shield for sorc.
@esvban6 ай бұрын
@@wilsonjp23 I agree barb doesn't really need it, could make some new builds though. Rogue has several ways to deal with dots. And once you are immortal you focus on offense.. that's the point
@TDiggz6 ай бұрын
Or you can just stack to about 70-80% dodge and use the glyph that heals 20% HP every time you dodge. So chances are you won't ever die that way and it'll save you some spots on your gear to put other stats besides dodge. At the very least you'll be extremely tanky. I tried it at lower levels when I had 50% dodge and it worked great. I could tank any pack with flurry as flurry healed me also. Since then I switched to heatseeker
@jehdi69746 ай бұрын
But you allow God mode sorcs to be on the maxroll leaderboard in a way you allow this. Why not disqualify this like you did holy bolts?
@Modioman696 ай бұрын
Yea immortal builds do NOT belong in this game it needs the D3 nerf treatment and problem solved. Not sure why they didn’t carry that sort of code into this game from the beginning. I am in a PvP clan and we live in those zones and hardly PvE unless needed. Let me tell you there’s at least one immortal (unique players only not same one) every hour at a minimum once many clear out of the zone. It’s not as hard to achieve the immortality as the abusers of it are saying in the comments below. I see it hourly and all I do is PvP. There’s even known names of people who use it in our discord because we all just avoid them. Three times now I’ve seen two immortal sorcs dueling snd nobody dies except us the spectators. Barbs same thing you see them regularly and they’ll openly brag about how stupid it is but they use it anyways. It’s a clown show until that shit gets handled properly like they did before. If you are reading this and are thinking “it’s So Rare only 1% can fArM that gear” you’re a Johnny day job and a casual at best. It takes a days worth of dedicated farming in talking like 5-8 hours and you can get the required gear and mats if you’re not a Johnny day job. The amount of it I already see not even a month in tells me it has to go pronto. Blizz needs to buff classes in other ways and not have to provide immortal cheese as the only counter to their scaling difficulty of the pit. It’s like they don’t remember the events of D3 at all or all those staff members are gone not my issue to solve. Don’t believe the naysayers it’s incredibly easy to throw together a set to make immortal builds. Abuse it while you can, but then you’ll be back at square one once they do inevitably nerf it and you’ll have to get good at the game. It’s trash tier play style.
@alanmw866 ай бұрын
limit amount of times you can temper said stat, but idk, they'd probably be worthless then
@bristolsteve69706 ай бұрын
Let's remember, we don't want blizz to be balancing the game around Rob and Wudi. If those guys can create a build that does 100B hits and can't be killed GG to those guys. Don't make the mortals experience worse because of it.
@eddyram49326 ай бұрын
Being permanently “invincible” is not a problem, it’s a response to the poor balance in the game🤷♂️ so many things one shot you it’s ridiculous. If they would fix the random damage spikes, we wouldn’t need to cheese the game.
@manfredhoudek23856 ай бұрын
There's a third way with Rogue and far easier. Guaranteed dodge. Aspect of Escape Artist on your amulet gives you 11 hits of 100% guaranteed 20 seconds cool down when dropping a stun grenade. Reduce it with 50% cool downs with masterworking and you have guaranteed dodges all the time, you don't really need this much cool down, works just as well with 30% as you are contiually dazing everything with stacking daze on lucky hit and with nearly every hit dropping stun grenades. Both dazing and stun locking. With 30% cool down this will bring the aspect cool down to 13.4 seconds, for 2.4 seconds you are not using aspect. The planners are wrong with dodge calculations, in game it falls off drastically after about 40%. 10% becomes only about 0.1%. thought I could stack the cool down dodge mechanic passive and stack dodge on all my gear but never got over 50%. To costly, Even Inner Sight aspect on paragon board when it procced didn't take it much past 60%. It becomes exponentially declining the higher it gets, you will never hit 100% in game.
@_Sascha_6 ай бұрын
Wduijo is right, this "invincibility-science" shouldn't be necessary. Looking forward to how Blizzard will adresse this problem because it makes only certain builds viable if you want to reach higher tiers.
@RamzaBehoulve6 ай бұрын
Right, let's make it so randomly equipping anything 925, tempered and max masterwork allows you to kill Lilith. I'm sure it will make everyone stick around the game.
@jehdi69746 ай бұрын
They already addressed this in d3. All they have to do is make it so immunity cooldowns can't be reset while immune.
@yessougkouyoumjian29446 ай бұрын
The entire game need to be revised again
@Flosstradamuss6 ай бұрын
Best part of Wudijo’s videos; the thumbnails 😎
@andrewthompson11676 ай бұрын
Idk, if you wanna invest in all those tempers on Barb, let'em have it.
@PrematureGoat6 ай бұрын
after knowing this whats the best class now?
@esvban6 ай бұрын
Barb for overall. Sorc for fishing cheese
@arturo_cruz6 ай бұрын
Blizzard could have just removed the flameshield temper or change it from duration; they wanted it in game, because they put it in themselves.
@systemtrend31946 ай бұрын
Dodge doesn't ignore elemental or ground effects like poison, fire,, lighting, etc does it? If it does, i'm making a rogue right now lol.
@emilnguyen6 ай бұрын
DOT effects still apply. But those death explosions are dodged
@esvban6 ай бұрын
Take all the DoT reduction passives and paragon. Dark shroud will help for dots too
@MD99.6 ай бұрын
Have fun rolling a rogue to grind 500+ hours of pits for mats to spam temper and masterwork gear to hit the low odds of stacking dodge. You have to hit all the right tempers and then hit all the masterworks on dodge. This isn't something achievable my normal people, it's literally something someone only nolifing the game can achieve.
@breikio6 ай бұрын
They should just kill all perma immunities, it makes the game super bland.
@MD99.6 ай бұрын
Like .01% of players on d4 will achieve this outside of sorc. It takes an unreasonable amount of time and nolifing the game to farm the materials required to constantly farm pits to hit all the right tempers and then stack multiple masterwork slams on them. Think of the odds of getting your correct tempers with good rolls on them and then think about hitting 3x masterworks on one specific affix for like 6 different items, then hink about how many items you've bricked this season just trying to temper an item correctly. This is an issue but overall in the grand scheme of things i isn't actually that big of an issue since most people will never achieve things like 100% dodge.
@pyramidhead04206 ай бұрын
You forgot the druid section.......right????
@_Sascha_6 ай бұрын
f in the chat.
@Abdulaziz-mr9on6 ай бұрын
1:22 , try watching the actual video and not only the chapters
@pyramidhead04206 ай бұрын
@@Abdulaziz-mr9onlol. Yeah I missed his 3 second glaze over another time his volume is always way to low.
@thaysonbrunner75276 ай бұрын
Can anyone confirm for me if I will really get 20+ in martial stamina? Will I become immortal in pit 130+ against the elites? It's very difficult to achieve this and it would waste a lot of resources, can anyone tell me if it really works??? thanks
@Waifu9996 ай бұрын
Sorcerer needs a buff , not more nerfs
@Flosstradamuss6 ай бұрын
Sorc is in a great state. Some of the highest solo pit runs are done by sorc without holy bolt elixir. Also they have a complete unkillable build
@disbled6 ай бұрын
sorcs need buffs and need their invincibilty removed
@Sknerus896 ай бұрын
@@Flosstradamuss Sorc can't kill bosses without exploits. You r clueless about how dmg by sorc is done/caclulated on these very high end pit clears. I play sorc, my frozen orb, with many ga uber uniques tempered to max can't do shit in 110 lvl, to go beyond I'd have to invest 5-10B gold into perma flame shield build. Thats no bueno. And because sorcs have access to broken build, doesn't make them good. It's quite the contrary, because we have to rely on broken builds. Sorc doesn't do dmg to the boss. End of topic. Noone cares about trash dmg in this game.
@lawlestest6 ай бұрын
@@Flosstradamuss sorc can't do shit at higher tier pits ... i'm in full gear (not GA'd) and i can barely survive pit 70.
@esvban6 ай бұрын
@@Flosstradamuss no one cares about pit clears that literally took all night to do because of fishing and the build sucks. Did you even watch the video, it's literally about invincible builds and sorc flame shield was one of them, everyone knows about it already if not now because of the video. The way they kill bosses is the same way that necros kill bosses with holy bolt elixir, too. Vacuuming a bunch of adds onto the boss.
@spencerbeard39046 ай бұрын
Finally, we have ways for casuals to beat Lilith and Wudijo calls it a "problem" 🙄
@yessougkouyoumjian29446 ай бұрын
Lvl 26 martial vigure not realistic to most i mean 90 percent of playerz
@flowqi2126 ай бұрын
How do you even get this? 2 on helm, chest, pants and amulet is 8, two per item with master worked + 1 crit is 16, and 3 is base. So 19 is doable for basically everyone with a little bit of effort. But 6 more means another 6 crits while master working 😅. Well, I guess 76% would be quasi-immortal already ^^, but from there, it gets very grindy. I guess they could do diminishing returns, then you end up with 54% on level 19, which would be kind of ok, I think.
@lov.2.g6 ай бұрын
I wish i had the amount of time you could spend playing....i could have all 5 class fully geared like the one i have now....rng can be countered with skill and time which the latter i dont normally have
@TonyTheTerrible6 ай бұрын
druids have lacerate. combined with flicekrstep you can get some low CDs really easily but not on bosses. im sure theres someone smarter than me out there that can make it work.
@gmotelet6 ай бұрын
Damage is still so far behind other classes that it wouldnt matter!
@chetbudreau52326 ай бұрын
poor druid got the shaft again lol... the shiftshaping thing sucks ..it and the pets added to every build is damn clunky it is not good . I want to be in wearwolf all the time . or bear all the time ..and maybe a hydrid build for both but not all the same ..
@lukebrady656 ай бұрын
I agree completely. It doesn't feel good shapeshifting into a Werebear, running around doing nothing for 2 seconds to get a damage buff. It kills all momentum. They themselves have said many times during live streams that fantasy is important to Diablo, so why, when I want to play a werewolf, do you have me shapeshifting into a bear? It breaks all fantasy and doesn't feel right.
@Jusedofus6 ай бұрын
Genius
@entropicdoom80186 ай бұрын
With numerous 1 shot mechanics and no one has reached tier 200 pit, i disagree that these immunity builds needs to be removed.
@taoday1186 ай бұрын
Mario is super invincible
@keithrombough34096 ай бұрын
Druids left in the dust again lol.
@Abdulaziz-mr9on6 ай бұрын
1:22 , try watching the actual video and not only the chapters
@konrah14866 ай бұрын
@@Abdulaziz-mr9onHomie you just linked a part of the video where he literally says that druids can’t become immune. Pointless comment
@keithrombough34096 ай бұрын
@@Abdulaziz-mr9on I did. Druid was left in the dust by not having an invincibility method. Not that it matters, it was a joke ffs.
@nephram17026 ай бұрын
Flame shield getting nerfed guaranteed in the mid season patch
@harrison16716 ай бұрын
nope :(
@OhZordan6 ай бұрын
While this game might look fairly polished on the outside with its pretty landscapes and outstanding sound design, almost everything under the hood is a mess / unfinished. Most meta builds in the last couple of seasons were simply "which class has the best ration of beneficial bugs vs negative bugs". Every class has at least a dozen nodes on the teenie tiny skill tree that seems to be bugged or not doing what the tool tip says. The netcode seem unsuitable with the constant stuttering and rubberbanding on the overworld as well the freezes and crashed when you open your own fucking inventory. There are still so many QoL issues that range back to the fucking beta weekend, like the checkpoints in dungeons not properly triggering. The current "multiplayer content" of world bosses, legion and open world event has zero gameplay value and was clearly just shoehorned in as a way so people can see other players cosmetic items. This weird balancing choice (seriously did they miss this or is this intentional???) of letting players reach permanent invincibility to deal with infinitely scaling content seems like another weird part of the game. If the Diablo team cannot find any competent designer interested in working for them, they could at least pay someone to consult.
@sc200576 ай бұрын
are bosses elites
@umbran0x6 ай бұрын
yes
@sc200576 ай бұрын
wooooow. im on pit 112 with bash. will test some builds with this new info. thx alot
@Dtier.Player6 ай бұрын
2:16 😳
@simonxiao72426 ай бұрын
Come on.. does no one want blizzard to implement set items?
@MoZz..6 ай бұрын
Nerf the barb then. Barb have been op in every season. Both tanky, extreme high dps, and speed farming.
@stasray7776 ай бұрын
Caps in PVP are different than PVE. So no, you wont be invulnurable in PVP zone (with max Martial Vigor f.e.)
@robertwelch14436 ай бұрын
They are already doing this in PvP
@tonykeally10396 ай бұрын
This won’t affect 90/% of all players I hope they don’t listen to you and nerf things to stop a couple of players from abusing mechanics.
@subzero3086 ай бұрын
Na dont nerf or balance anything immortality is the true end game.
@jeremypropst74496 ай бұрын
Why nerf it, change it? It doesn't effect your game play and if someone wants to feel/ be immortal in they escape from reality who cares? It doesn't hurt the game and I don't see any builds that use the "immortality" stacking other than Sorcs. I have leveled 8 toons to 100 this league leveled another 12 to 90+ to farm respended shards. I've done pit 125 and I have not built a single character to be immortal. If you don't like the playstyle then don't play it. Also like others mention it is not an easy feat the farm all the perfect items and then get perfect master crafting on top of it. I've gotten 4 triple GA bows on my rogue and all of them have bricked with tempering. If someone pulls it off let them have it Wudijo is starting to sound like the fun police /sigh
@steezyjxe41906 ай бұрын
took long enough for some youtuber to make this. at least ill stop getting reported :) when the noobs finally see this who said i was hacking . i told you, you would feel stupid ^^
@draega5706 ай бұрын
needs diminishing returns applied
@IamMonikaDLC6 ай бұрын
The whole system has diminishing returns, problem is when you have a single source of 100% that's it so that should never happen.
@ScottPeterson-kc9uo6 ай бұрын
Just run a god mode cheat and save yourself the hassle, it's PC right
@evg3nius6 ай бұрын
Im going to do either barb or rogue and go into PVP lmao. This is so broken, i love it
@robertwelch14436 ай бұрын
Tons of barbs and sorcs already doing this.. pretty lame haha. At least they can’t kill me either
@timothysoh91026 ай бұрын
Why can't we have broken shit that's also OP in the game? Why must players want a more difficult time relative to lv. 1? Sounds like rewards for end game is still lacking.
@BromancerofDoom6 ай бұрын
I mean, I get it, it shouldn’t be in the game, but unless you want to be an invincible rogue running around with zdps, why would you use that many dodge or agile tempers 😂
@user-ne2zx3nd2k6 ай бұрын
What's the point of wasting so much just to achieve immortality...only against elites, when Melted heart of selig is still out there ?.
@Rancid_Ninja6 ай бұрын
I played a sorc and a rouge to 100 this season, when I leveled up my rouge as an alt I had a melted and I used it to beef up when leveling but haven't seen any endgame builds using it.
@esvban6 ай бұрын
Barb is best with selig... It's not invincible though... You take damage before you heal im pretty sure, so you could get one shot
@HedwigxRocks6 ай бұрын
They’re the only enemies that are threatening lol
@mapron16 ай бұрын
elite = champion/elite/boss/player. So basically anything but normal mob/trap/helltide meteor. "only against elites" lol.
@Danny-zw7sw6 ай бұрын
@@Rancid_Ninjabarbs we’re using it in 130s but had to drop it for 140 for extra damage. It’s still the strongest defense item in the game.
@robertwelch14436 ай бұрын
Hopefully they tweak this a bit
@ayufever19786 ай бұрын
something needs to be done with barbarians! they always have something that makes them unkillable or one shot any boss. i say their weapon aspects, affixes, tempers, etc are only active on the weapon held in that moment. then they work like other classes (except rogue but rogue SUCKS and it needs the bump)
@thenorfire9006 ай бұрын
Pvp must be lit right now. lol j/k
@austintse57196 ай бұрын
I see this as a reward for the most dedicated players. Why punish them?
@skatermark4206 ай бұрын
No nerfs stop saying nerfs lol just keep adding to endgame let us power creep! we wanna be gods not die from plants on the sides.....
@andrewr82516 ай бұрын
This guy bro🤦🏻♂️ just let things be overpowered. Diablo is not the game you play if you want some ultra challenge. Go play souls if you want that. Most people play Diablo to feel powerful
@Zikkar6 ай бұрын
If you think Druid can’t do it you are 100% wrong. It is the same lol. You show your ignorance of deuid
@esvban6 ай бұрын
druid is only 70% damage reduction with roar
@user-wo9jj6ii6t6 ай бұрын
CrAzY how the base game is still so unpolished, yet they are already coming out with an expansion...
@Rancid_Ninja6 ай бұрын
We overpaid for this game and beta tested for the first year basically, don't think I will be buying the expansion.
@konrah14866 ай бұрын
Don’t think you know what “unpolished” means
@Flosstradamuss6 ай бұрын
@@Rancid_Ninjathis. The developers mentioned it was released in a “good enough state.” Not sure if that was Activision greed but it ruined the games reputation. I knew it would be better in a year and thankfully it’s fun now
@darkdraconis6 ай бұрын
@@Rancid_NinjaI had a blast 90% of the time I was beta testing
@nanashiryuu56306 ай бұрын
Facts. The game is now in a releasable state. And it only took 4 seasons... 😂 Shills gonna shill
@c1eLno1r6 ай бұрын
"There is a very decisive surfacing problem" Yep, there are no fun builds... 0 AND defence is useless because it get's severely outscaled, very fast. The only way to kill higher content is to maximize damage, and the only way to survive is to be immune to damage. D4 bad. Dogshit game.
@Deffine6 ай бұрын
Game is a joke. Got it sir.
@discodisco3606 ай бұрын
This game, so glad I stopped playing it...
@Metallicahardrocker6 ай бұрын
And ppl still say, rogue weak....still most op char. Speed, aoe, single target, invincible...
@Catpicker6 ай бұрын
it is not about how weak rogue is. rogue needs a whole renewal of skills and ultimates
@aname.whatdidyouexpect18776 ай бұрын
never heard of said "ppl" but ok
@ryuumoko58856 ай бұрын
Half invincible. Damage over time still hits
@Sumowning6 ай бұрын
"still most OP char" Actual 🤡🤡🤡
@fgagaerhjhjyfyjfyyjkf6 ай бұрын
Ever seen barbs?
@ReC866616 ай бұрын
overall boring season all the best builds are based on basic skills.
@TheArnoldification6 ай бұрын
gamer dads that play 1 hour a month chiming in with their balance takes in the comments as was expected