Diablo 4 - This Shouldn't Work, But It Does!

[@kaylee42900]

Blizzard really should invest in tech where the tooltips are generated from the code. We did something similar at work and it eliminated so many issues.

[@____GoMeZ____]

I feel like a lot of these bugs and issues are because the engine is .... not great. IDK but I feel like the devs arent doing all this on purpose, its some weird coding issue for sure.

[@sermerlin1]

@@____GoMeZ____ How would you even get to feel that? How do you know engine is not great? Engine... Is an engine. It's neither terrible or fantastic. It's framework. You type in code it does what you type and what you work on it. It does what you type. It doesn't have a mind of its own and usually when someone says "ugh why it isn't doing what I tell it to" is basically "i'm a moron who is clueless in coding logic and I have no idea what I did to make it behave this way". It's specifically devs fault on it. Every single affix, attribute character change should work as intended and if coded properly it is suppose to work as intended. I am just amazed how many actually bugs there are revolving aspects and there aren't that many of them for how many coders there are working on diablo. I blame team management who are incompetent enough to not be able to organize, discipline and make things work proper within that team and not have such mistakes.

[@youdonegoofed]

@@sermerlin1 These days, people tend to say "I feel like" when assuming something without any knowledge on the matter. I always find it funny.

[@hazemangames]

@@sermerlin1 Sometimes the engine doesn't do what it is told though, sometimes there are limitations, sometimes there isn't support for what you want. It's still a dev issue, because your engine devs would need to either support or fix it if those specific problems come up. An engine can absolutely be terrible. If you use unity, you're limited by not having access to the source code. That's an engine limitation that causes frustrations for countless developers. In this case though, localisation needs to be fixed to display the correct data. It's not an engine problem, its a pipeline/workflow issue.

[@sermerlin1]

@@hazemangames As i literally said. Engine is an engine. It's neither terrible or great. It's an engine. Framework. You write and code into it and that's what it does. I know it's hard to understand that "hey I typed this why isn't it doing what I typed" well in fact it is doing EXACTLY to the word what you typed it. It's just YOU who has no idea what's going on in or within the engine so the input you typed doesn't match your expected output. And obviously when that happens if you aren't the one who coded the engine structures you are suppose to go to your engine guy and tell you why it's doing exactly what you typed it to do but it isn't matching your EXPECTED output of what it should do. If you ARE the one who coded the engine structures, then you are in for deep researching of your engine to find how the pipeline of it works since you probably either forgot or went in way over your head by adding blocks without reorganizing and tiding up the code. But basically TL:DR, engine does exactly what you tell it to do. Hard to understand at first but when you gain understanding of logic you begin to understand the fact that it always does exactly what you input.

[@dizk8488]

Incoming Blizzard patch notes: "Fixed a bug where Deadly Ambush node was affecting all damage instead of crit strike damage" Actual change: "We completely bricked Deadly Ambush and now it doesn't work at all"

[@DARKCOP2011]

Basically one of the few good builds for rogue its an accident and of course the will "fix" it for next season making it unplayable, after that they will look what barb build is not tier S and buff the shit out of it to "balance" the classes, what a great fucking videogame.

[@AdFortis]

It’s insane how quickly these bugs are discovered, as if there is virtually no testing of these patches by the D4 team. Very disappointing.

[@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm]

I will make a single comment about that. They spend their time developing and you can very easily miss the forest for the trees when you’re close up. Comparatively, there’s a group of hundreds of thousands of people “testing” some of them testing for more hours in the day than the developers are developing looking for the one ball that was dropped.

[@corpsefoot758]

@@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm Or … maybe they’re just suffering from firing all of their own QA staff lmao

[@animago81]

So if 30.000 ppl a day find a bug you think some test developers should have found it 2?

[@sn4ke581]

@@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm Hmmm somewhat true. But what about quality management? If I am the developer tasked with changing something, wouldn’t I test if everything works as expected? Or do I just change the code and say „I‘m done“. I believe the community would be ok with some of those bugs, especially the one which are more harder to detect. But promoting a big change with e.g. Andariels and nothing works except the visuals, is pretty poor…

[@MM-vy3fm]

The testers are the two trolls that did the gameplay demonstration.

[@littleman7301]

This actually made me tilt... not just deadly ambush, but learning malice double dip victimize dmg? I spent more than 200 hours this season.. Not a single patch has come out working during this season. I respecced to play andariels, andariel not working on patch day, back to HS.. This video was the breakpoint for me to stop playing this game all together. You cant even experiment and lab on your own cause there are doezens of tooltips "lying" or skills and glyphs that doenst work as intended :s. Big thank you to wudijo that finally helped me set the final nail in the coffin! Despite season 4 being the best season so far, blizzard should really reconsider their priorities regarding their work structure!

[@goldenplectrum9695]

Andariel is working like a charm

[@jeromechillin5515]

Lol calm down man it's not that serious.

[@littleman7301]

@@goldenplectrum9695 no 😂

[@littleman7301]

@@jeromechillin5515 half the game is stealth broken.. thats pretty serious if u consider the amount of time u put into it ;) If ur enjoying the game, keep playing! I did until i didnt! Whats serious for some ppl might be a fart in space for the next! The fact still remains. Game is broken, all over, despite being at its best state since release!

[@artemkoropotkin3047]

Even though Andariels helm is performing like in prepatch the rogue puncture build is still insane. Once Bliz decides to finally fix it it'll be even more OP.

[@wizman243]

Season 5: Source Code Reborn

[@Jobboka]

Reborn? You sure? This season is the death of code and next might be the revival, or we get a side quest to go and collect the coding from hell, bring it back as a Revival if you will

[@Avarilyn]

List of double dips for Victimize: Exploit Pride Caltrops Control Subverting Poison Trap Chip Canny Deadly Ambush Exploit Weakness Great video Wudi!

[@Bowazon]

To be clear about Malice: Victimise does double dip Malice and this was known even before the other double dips were confirmed. The issue isn't whether things double dip, but whether the double dipping doesn't make sense or is out of control. Malice works this way: * Malice increases the damage of Heartseeker by the stated amount, say 9% * Malice increases the tooltip Vulnerable damage bonus, there by increasing Victimise's base damage * Victimise takes heartseeker's original damage (already boosted by Malice) then multiplies its base damage (also boosted by Malice) and calculates its final damage this way On that note, it makes sense to fix the double dips from Exploit, Caltrops, etc, but Malice's behaviour described above should remain as it is.

[@Bendickson300]

Tbh, i just really want a shadowstep rogue to really work. The whole reason I went rogue this season and it's bugged :(

[@TheOne23_]

Bruh the amount of bugs in the game…

[@jeromechillin5515]

If you're using a bow, wont the weapon mastery passive double dip as well since that increases vulnerable damge?

[@Rilo888]

Idk I’m doing 255-450mil poison ticks with anderials heartseeker with no investment and it’s the face tanking that I like and not having to waist potions. I personally prefer it over shako. When I say investment I’m talking about on paragon with bane, tracker, elditch bounty etc. I did however stack a lot of crowd control on top of my 2300 vulnerable multiplier. So I have 450%crowd control on tool tip which helps feed into victimize also and boost the poison scaler but that’s it. I saw a lot of rogues not take advantage of the free crowd control you can get and idk why, your literally stunning mobs or bosses to output the most damage. I get nuked in pits over 142 with shako compared to anderials and that’s with a dark shroud level of 15with shako equipped, might aspect, umbres and covering all armor and res basics. I acknowledge heart seeker base hitting harder but it doesn’t solve the survival well especially when mobs take longer to be killed and when crowd control wears off. Same time with bosses, I don’t waist potions when taking hits meaning my potions go towards more meaningful damage and I don’t have to give up aspects or skill tree points to do it. Anderials also allowed me to kill mobs faster over shako with the posion procs or be able to move away from packs knowing they will die to save time.

[@viktorstorelv]

Do you have a link to this build?:)

[@Bendickson300]

Andy Heartseeker doing 142 with 'no investment'? I'm afraid to ask what you'd call investment

[@Rilo888]

@@Bendickson300 no investment for the poison damage bro. It’s heart seeker build but instead of shako it’s Andy. I’m saying there is no investment into the poison damage scaling aside the free crowd control from paragon and on my amulet. I even clarified the investment for which I was referring to since wudijo said it wasn’t worth running a full heart seeker with andi’s and I just claimed I’m still doing a solid 250mil plus up to 400 mil with no real posion scaling. No real investment into it being a poison build. Just free damage

[@Bendickson300]

@@Rilo888 sheesh man, now I really want an Andy to mess with

[@Rilo888]

@@Bendickson300 it’s worth a try. End of the day it’s how you feel about it you know. The way I see it is if I get 1 shot then ohh well but I was getting one shot with shako. At least with Andy I can face tank most things up until getting one shot and maximize damage in that time. I only use health potions when actually needed. As a rogue our biggest downside is attrition based fights. The longer it takes to kill something then the more likely we get 1 shot or run out of potions etc. when I’m boss fighting I usually always have my max potions even to the end and I even use concealment for some of them that have open areas with no cover to also leech life or gain via invisible. Only using health potion when i know I took too much damage in an instance. Going back to mobs I don’t find myself running and baiting as much either. When I had shako if I dont kill certain elite packs fast enough especially if they have the defensive buffers (the purple ones) and they become unstoppable I had to keep moving away and either chip them down or regroup them for a potential stun again. With Andy I didn’t have to do that as much and I was able to sit there face tanking with the life steal in most cases while keeping entire packs in my caltrops (my max benefit being 110x) and nuke them faster. I use smoke and flurry to daze/stun caltrops them and facetank the packs. Conceal if I need to get away from certain elites only or break cc. The whole time I don’t spam health potions or find myself needing potions and even if I get cc’d Andy’s had ironically kept me alive with constant healing when I’m stunned in those packs. So end of the day I believe I survive better and if I get one shot then that’s what it is it wouldn’t have been different with shako. Now iv been tethering back and forth with terials might chest piece. I have a ga roll to max resistance. Its essentially better then shako survival wise and the extra damage is nice. Andy ironically keeps me full health soooo I get free bolts always. The only thing is I can’t tell if my 12 dark shroud with Umbrus is better or my terial might with 5 dark shroud when I run Andy. If I run terial I have to drop unbrus and physically slot dark shroud or I drop might aspect which I don’t like to do that so I drop umbrus and I maxed out my cooldown for dark shroud. But if I don’t run terial might then I just have might aspect and Umbrus/darkshoud always up so I’m debating that one still.

[@Akunza]

I've done 96 Tier pits since the patch. I've noticed I'm a bit tanky now but I'm on the fence trying to solo uber Lilith lmao

[@imnotchikao6317]

Go for it, she and the other bosses are a pushover now. The HP has been tuned. You just need some movement speed to outrun her seekers and you will be set.

[@jewbacca7777]

I killed her yesterday with a basically fresh lvl 100 heart seeker rogue. 5/7 glyphs are still lvl15, hugely suboptimal gear and minimal masterworking (mostly 4/12 with 8/12 weapons and chest) She’s super weak now. Free resplendent spark. Just need to learn phase 1 patterns and switch to an amulet with big plus movement speed on it for phase 2 so you can outrun skills (160% movement speed is the target to aim for in phase 2)

[@CouchGuy19]

My Andariels damage shows 27k damage on my item when I played last night. Is it showing what the new damage is but not actually doing it? I definitely noticed a damage increase when I tested it out though.

[@AMoralMan]

Does resource generation work on the inner sight meter?

[@ThreeBelowZero]

I really hope they don't fix heartseeker. I'm having a lot of fun with the build as it is.

[@cellcasket]

Hey Wudijo, nice video as always! I have a question about the heartseeker build - after bricking my bow with double puncture instead of double heartseeker I just tried it. So I switched to puncture but changed nothing else and it feels way stronger, in particular the damage output. Do you have an idea where this is coming from? Should I switch back to heartseeker in long term, specially for higher pit pushes? Thank you! Und liebe Grüße 😉

[@michaelmeneses3927]

Hi! Is doombringer a viable option for the andariel build?

[@adriandelarosa6502]

For the Heartseeker version could help give more lucky hit procs. Also azurewrath for the same.

[@adriandelarosa6502]

Also you might be giving up too much damage on puncture version due to less crowd control damage temper.

[@wojciech9001]

Shhhh, don't tell Blizzard!

[@viktorstorelv]

Cant wait for the andariel rapid fire

[@kaylee42900]

lmao I was wondering why I was seeing DA in andariel's planners. ty!

[@w.schulz6196]

My heartseaker is at 125 pit whit andariels helm i got 100% ias b1/ b2 75%+ ias it feels so nice

[@Dang3rMou53]

Any double dipping with concealment? Boss health seems to drop after I use & break concealment, or is that intended?

[@djpeajay]

It might be the guaranteed vulnerable proc?

[@ecalor]

so is deadly ambush just for stagger phase damage, or is there another way to trigger it that im missing?

[@vraeljsp]

Deadly ambush applies to any enemy affected by your trap skills, so a caltrops or poison trap on the boss will enable this damage multiplier even outside of stagger.

[@S34Mii]

I have confirmed that the so called buff to exposure via the patch notes doesn't work as well. This patch just straight up cannot be trusted at face value. There's so much that is bugged or not working properly in this game that a build that should, in theory, work very well puts out lackluster results

[@virtualmike13]

Have you shared your builds on sites other than Discord? I cannot log into it but would love to try your new rogue builds, thanks

[@Jobboka]

Look it up on maxroll, he uploades them there if I'm not mistaken

[@danielmondmann5842]

hey meister, ich hätt noch +3 twistingblade armschienen und welche mit +4 rapidfire. könntest gratis haben

[@CookaSoupNieceEH]

Bugiablo 4

[@MichaelLongshanks]

the Maxroll Heartseeker build (June 15) is not currently running Deadly Ambush (yet) EDIT: Apparently I haven't had my coffee yet. DA is there, comments are correct. Derp.

[@cozyboy3129]

Urm..Maxroll HS build have been using DA like since forever bro, watcha talking about?

[@Fomaster]

yes it does?

[@NeCoNLive]

We need that 100-100 dps weapon!!

[@bigpimping6293]

Does this apply to the cold barrage build ?

[@AllThingsFascinate]

Mm, got the same question myself

[@teanymonster5227]

everything should be tested on some form of ptr from now on, my opinion.

[@danielpeschll6911]

i really need a build where i can just speedfarm pit lvl 90-100 would u say tb rogue can do that with decent gear?

[@ljandrew2012]

Heart seeker or andariels puncture can at ease.

[@djpeajay]

It may with this update, but I'm doing it atm with HS no problem

[@Jobboka]

Ha is great for what you just asked for. Try to roll a mx double cast and crit it once on masterworking

[@danilompg6558]

Please do that poison Rapid Fire

[@arcticlight3922]

Hi wudijo i wonder sth pls write back; how would it work andariel rouge with doombringer and azurewrath with good rolls or GAs or both of them sametime. I was thinking of putting one or another or both if it works and do wonders 😂

[@arcticlight3922]

We can change all dmg over time rolls with normal dmg rolls for doombringer and azure to work and even put greater lucky hit chances to blast all random elements dmg everywhere. Idk sounds beatiful but would it work?

[@arcticlight3922]

Also doombringer makes us a lot tanky so maybe we can put dex gems in armor and it covers cc dmg of temper and we get that bonus dmg of doombringer on top it

[@DARKCOP2011]

Its incredible that in order to get a decent good build like heartseeker we need a bugged mechanic, and obviously they are going to nerf the shit out of it because Blizzard knows we hate fun builds. At this point i don't even know why i keep playing this shit game.

[@fgagaerhjhjyfyjfyyjkf]

It’s not even a fun build

[@juanstarnotip8122]

already using DA on my heartseeker build

[@romainfevrier3493]

They modified? I did my heart seeker copying the Dieoxide build on maxroll and there was DA 🤔. And I’m looking. The topic on Maxroll was edited since the beginning of the season but DA is in it. The Dieoxide setup and the others

[@juanstarnotip8122]

@@romainfevrier3493 My board is loosely based off of Wud's HS guide he posted a few weeks ago, He took DA on the 5th board.

[@273degrees]

Rapid fire doesn't seem like it is splitting to me.

[@Jobboka]

Splitting? It cast twice on the same spot

[@273degrees]

@@Jobboka l mean the 90% splitting ricochet aspect to assist with aoe clear. For rapid fire.

[@viktorstorelv]

It splits for me with the aspect, and it works wonders for aoe-clearing with RF and scoundrels kiss. Without it, even with the 50% increased AOE, it's still kinda bad for AOE. But with aspect, its waaay better!:)

[@Jobboka]

@@273degrees it was bugged since the patch

[@tuclance]

Volcen vibes... say one thing do another.

[@Chestermayfire]

So basically Malice is the best possible passive to have on amulet for HS? Of course it's the one I can't get 😭😭

[@dizk8488]

Exploit has double dipped with victimize since the start of the season.

[@Chestermayfire]

@@dizk8488 my amulet has crit chance, 4 to exploit and 4 to frigid finesse, that one being the gambled affix and I stopped there cause it took an insane amount of rerolls and I figured it was good enough to stop but I guess I'mma have to keep trying lol

[@dizk8488]

@@Chestermayfire Ideally you want exploit and malice but I'd just leave it if you have freeze chance on gear for frigid. The chance of rerolling into +malice is so low because of weighted affixes. It's a huge gold sink.

[@Chestermayfire]

@@dizk8488 yeah, I figured it was a good enough multiplier for general mobs and when bosses stagger, I can't begin to tell you the amounts of gold it took to even get that second passive 😫😫

[@artemkoropotkin3047]

​@@dizk8488Gold ain't the issue. Angels breath is the bottle neck. Every season it's always a mat from helltide that's blue balling me 😅

[@Husashi]

Still not out of beta

[@hiimverz1186]

Does that mean DA double procs on victimize?

[@Avarilyn]

Yep. It has done since the start which is why Victimize builds used DA

[@willemduplessis9518]

Hydro is op, needs a nerf

[@Pepe-cd6cj]

These devs are 🤡. The funniest they did was with the Grandfather, mfs just hid the indestructible mod lmao

[@Three60Mafia]

poison trap is a trash skill.

[@quillanpaulsen3445]

Dude on my rogue the novas go off on enemies still and it works

[@Jobboka]

False, visuals go off on enemies, actual explosion nova happens around you. Trust 💯

[@charmsician7225]

Can i get unbanned on discord now? I got banned back in season 2 I'm pretty sure for selling lvling boost for gold...

[@Jobboka]

Rip

[@dannynicholson50]

What gets me is.... look at his items how theyre so perfectly rolled... 😂 ive played every day since s4 launch and have no where near the items these streamers have haha😂 i think my best item is a 1 ga shako on cdr lol and these guys out here with full 3ga and perfect tempers ...

[@yuribakker3079]

Diablo 4 devs are Just shit