Diablo: Hellfire [1] The Wounded Townsman

The first Diablo was an interesting game, flowing very differently from the later entries. It's also not supported on Blizzard's own system, instead requiring you to buy it via GoG.
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[@Tailz64]

A note about repairing: If you repair a magical item BEFORE you identify it, meaning when it still says 'Unidentified', the repair cost will be much cheaper, the same as if it were a normal item. Once you identify it the price will jump. Also, really looking forward to this one! Diablo is one of my all time favorites.

[@kirby5790]

Diablo, for when you want to murder demons but haven't quite gotten up to guns yet.

[@Rie-Vinaca]

In this episode nothing saves the world better than a sentient pancake on a cart

[@YuyuHakurei]

Not sure if you eventually get to this but I am like halfway through. The Dark Riders also cut down anyone who tries to leave from horseback. So it's very unlikely anyone would actually get away if they tried to leave. It's more likely for them to live if they went down to the dungeons instead. Especially for someone like Griswald once we learn his backstory. There are quite a lot of funny movie and book references. This is an obvious Lord of the Rings reference as the Dark Riders are described to be very similar to Ring Wraiths. Also Griswald saved Farnham. Someone eventually references this, but they also describe that Griswald dual wields battle axes. He went down and likely saved most of the survivors we see in the village as they were probably part of the group that was saved from the butcher. It could also be that they aren't and most of the ones saved died. So he's absolutely insane strength wise. It might have actually been a reference to the cut Barbarian Class as I do not think those were being made by Sierra. They were cut by the main development team and were dug up and left in the files of hellfire because they wanted to finish the classes. Of which they kinda did, but the D2 renditions of them are certainly much better. Not that Farnham didn't help at all. He probably did considering how dangerous the dungeons are. He wasn't part of the rescue group though. He was part of the initial mob lazarus led. Griswald was part of the rescue group. He was also the only survivor of the Rescue group. As Farnham may be the only survivor of the initial group led down. Farnham basically has PTSD. He's drunk all of the time to deal with it. Search is a spell added in Hellfire. It basically just highlighted it as if your mouse was on the item. It worked very well, but it isn't as good as the additions added in DevX. The spell is useless because of that. The Warrior can repair at the cost of maximum durability. The Sorceror can recharge staves at the cost of maximum charges. The Rogue can disarm traps on doors and chests, but she is subject to barrels just like everyone else. However DevX does have an option to break them from range which the original game does not allow. So that would make Rogue pretty much immune to traps. Rogues can see when things are trapped passively as well, but not barrels. Other classes obviously can't do that. Also I bet you already know this, but don't tank Black Death zombies. They permanently reduce your maximum health. They are the only enemy in the game with a hidden ability this ridiculous.

[@ICountFrom0]

As a note, spells level up. So using the book of search would have improved the search spell. I'm sure they've played through at least the first section and figured this out before the first one is even up, but others might find it useful to note.

[@YuyuHakurei]

They actually didn't know this till episode 2. xD

[@Erthshade]

What interesting luck, and what memories come back. As I recall, Ornate shrines used to be quite in demand with regards to one particular unique item, the Thinking Cap I believe. That hat had *really good* stats for casting, but a limit of 1/1 durability. Ornate shrines increase the max durability of one of your worn items by 10 but reduce another by the same amount. Players would cheese it by only equipping the Cap and some junk item.

[@AlexG0080]

I looked it up, the one you wanted for a Thinking Cap was a Hidden Shrine, the one Naka found already disabled would have lowered the users max MP by 10% in exchange for +2 levels to the Holy Bolt spell

[@Erthshade]

@@AlexG0080 Ouch. Been a while since I played for sure.

[@dustyhammer7569]

That is fascinating to learn the warrior is tied to this town lore wise, never knew that. Also love the music of early Blizzard

[@YuyuHakurei]

It isn't true in the scope of lore of this game. So no one will reference this in game. It was a retcon in Diablo 3. In case you start to get suspicious when you realize this. xD

[@michalmazurek7328]

This is great, I know next to nothing about Diablo and now my favorite KZbinr is playing through the first game. Now I can sit back and see how Naka and Ogre play this and see if it interests me.

[@YuyuHakurei]

The game that invented Action RPGs. It's fully voice acted and about demons and angels with humans caught in between. The first 2 are super fun to watch. For 1 any class can learn any spell provided they can get their magic to the right stat. Stats have max values for each class. Warriors can only have 50 magic max, but sorcerors can go up to 255. The floors randomize each playthrough. The enemies randomize each playthrough. The quests randomize each playthrough. The multiplayer versions of the quests are a little different than the single player versions. This will help you understand the game a little bit more to enjoy it more.

[@michalmazurek7328]

@@YuyuHakurei Thanks for the run through, so if I ever wanted to play this myself. I shouldn't be surprised if the floors look different to Naka and Ogre's playthrough. Good to know, and that all spells can be learned.....sorta.

[@Bladecharge]

i love how nice and grimm the town sountrack is

[@RookMeAmadeus]

I love seeing someone play through this game and bringing someone new into it. Diablo 1/Hellfire definitely shows its age, but it's still fun, especially with a couple QoL touchups. Also, interesting thing to note about Strength. It scales in effectiveness based on your level. Specifically, you get a bonus to melee damage equal to your Strength x your level / 100. At low levels, it does next to nothing. If you get a warrior's strength to the natural max of 250 (or higher with items), you end up getting 2.5x your level as damage. You start doing triple digits with your bare hands.

[@Ancaryvan]

🥲 16.... years of this channel... My precious momemto.

[@sweskey]

I understand that these temperatures are Hellish but it's not spooky season yet

[@allozingy]

Oh man, this game is my childhood! Never particularly liked Hellfire, but I guess it only adds to the game, so nice to show the definitive edition. A couple of pro tips that you seem to be unaware of: * You can hold-click on a monster to continuously attack * Holding the shift key prevents your character from moving, which then allows you to continuously attack (by hold-clicking the left mouse button). You can use that when camping a narrow passage or doorway to avoid accidentally advancing into it. It's also especially useful for ranged weapons. * Items do break and disappear when they go to 0 durability. Staffs do not disappear when they go to 0 charges (but will disappear if used as a melee wrapon until they hit 0 durability). * The Warrior's "repair" and Sorcerer's "recharge" abilities are pretty awful since they degrade the item you use them on. Suggest you only ever use them in a pinch and only on mundane (white text) items. * Scrolls are one-use-only but usually have much lower Magic stat requirements than the book for the same spell. They also cost no mana to use. * You can (well, Ogre can) use additional books after learning a spell (inculding the one spell he knows by default). Each requires more Magic but extra levels will make the spell more powerful, cost less mana, or both. Other than utility spells like Search, I suggest having Ogre use all the books you two find rather than sell them, since it's usually worth it. * Talking to Pepin heals HP (just opening the menu). Talking to Adria heals MP. * You can use ranged attacks (bows and spells) through barred walls. So can enemies.

[@allozingy]

Also nice touch with Ogre's character name as well. We'll be seeing more of him in D2!

[@GlennMagusHarvey]

Never played Diablo before but saw it a long time ago and have been quite curious about it. Thanks for LPing it.

[@AquamentusZero]

Oh yeah, this game was always a favorite of mine! Loving the atmosphere!

[@YuyuHakurei]

I can stick a mini guide here. Warriors put strength until they can wear full plate mail which is 90 str. Rest into dex until it's maxed and vitality. Classes have max stat values for each stat. It's usually around 50 or 60. I think dex for the warrior is a little higher though. Warriors are horrible with bows and less worse with staves. Their best weapons are often magical weapons like The King's Sword of Haste. King's and Haste together are their best affix and suffixes. Otherwise stronger unique weapons. Melee uniques are usually hit or miss. They aren't just outright better like staves and bows tend to be. The higher tier equipment tend to have better uniques though. Like the Stormshield and Demonspike Coat. Notable uniques are The Grandfather, Shirotachi, and The Grizzly. Hellslayer and Messerschmidt's Reaver are also notable 2 handed axes. Sorcerors a little harder if you have no idea. Basically they want to max strength, but not early game. They want to put like all of their points into magic early game. Start putting points into strength mid game unless they find mana shield early to mid game. If they find mana shield then all in magic and use elixirs to max your strength and vitality. Sorcs don't really need Dex for anything. They are horrible with bows and less worse with melee weapons. So strength is their best off stat. In order to use full plate mail you need to get plus to strength gear which goes over the cap. Preferably +all stats. Their best armors are usually uniques that add to spell levels and mana. Their best weapon is The Archangel Staff of Apocalypse which you can buy from Adria starting at level 30. It has 255 charges of Apocalypse, but that spell was nerfed in Hellfire so you need vision on the target to use it. Making it significantly worse than a lot of other spells you can use because it does lower damage than most spells. I think it does physical damage though. Alternatively Mindcry is probably the best unique staff in the game as a lot of other ones are either meant for monks or have pretty bad drawbacks/not good key stats sorcerors like. I'll edit in a rogue guide for fun. Rogues are generally the easiest class to level. You get Dex until 100% to hit then start maxing strength. You want some Vitality, but eventually you can start dumping into Dex and using Vitality Elixirs to max the vitality. Their weapons are the easiest to find. They are versatile in the stats they like. You either want the King's/Swiftness, Flaming/Bear, Lightning/Bear, or a unique bow as bows have the best uniques in the game. Uniques such as Eaglehorn, Fleshstinger, Windforce, Flambeau, and Gnat Sting. All really good, but some of them are mid game weapons and some of them are end game. Rogues are bad with Staves, and less bad with melee weapons.

[@MrSkysenGames]

Intro video reminded me of Blood Omen, and now I once again wanna see you guys do the LoK games.

[@GM_Darius]

Hells yeah, the best of the Diablo series!

[@5x_simon_x587]

Ohh I am looking forward to see more of this.

[@swindlegaming7397]

Oh Diablo 1 I have a history with this game it’s my only game on ps1 and god it holds a very special place in my heart due to being the game I’d play with my father a lot I made sure when I got my ps1 back I’d have a copy of the game which we actually own two somehow but it’s a very very important game to me so seeing you guys play it makes me very excited

[@portalguy2246]

Geez haven’t played this game in ages… was one of my favorites growing up, this an DII

[@Maswartz226]

Interesting choice of game.

[@ToHoldNothing]

They have other things they can branch off into, though I'm partial to stuff in the sword and sorcery genre. Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 2 is preferable (don't even have to have played the predecessor), since the XP is divided evenly, but the coop is same screen, so...potentially not ideal, though they could enjoy it a lot more: there's a Drow Monk, there's a Human Cleric, all kind of choices. I feel like Naka would gravitate to the Drow and Ogre maybe to the Barbarian

[@AquamentusZero]

Added comment 47:16 If a staff runs out of charges, it is simply depleted and must be recharged before you can use it again. It does not get destroyed 47:30 A magician can recharge a staff BUT! the maximum charges go down every time you do that. The same goes for anything the warrior repairs with his skill. The item gets restored, but the max. durability goes down. Unless multiplayer handles this different, which I am not sure of.

[@CCCM89]

47:20 1. Losing all charges on an item just means you can't use the magic associated with that item. you have to recharge it. 2. Do not use the self recharge if it is a stave you like. Your personal recharge lowers the maximum number of charges, so it's almost always better value to recharge with the witch.

[@megamanfan3]

15:29 was later referenced in StarCraft by the Protoss Observer.

[@Nekosage]

It's Diablo! 12:47 - 12:50 - Welcome to Ascantha! 13:22 - 13:46 - The Butcher? That's giving me flashbacks to Demonophobia. 57:04 - 57:33 - Man... That's crazy.

[@ToHoldNothing]

I wonder what the meta would've been like if Barbarian and Bard were introduced: Bard was dual wielding and Barbarian used axes and is generally more tanky, Bard appears to have been well rounded, but not really excelling in anything, while a Barbarian could wield two handed weapons in one hand (but not dual wield?)

[@ToHoldNothing]

Diablo 2 is the first I saw via a friend, though I've never even played Diablo 3, which had a brief popularity boost in the 2010s.

[@YuyuHakurei]

1 and 2 are the best ones. 3 got a problem over focusing on the loot, but not really having anything to use the best loot on. It was also the first one not made by the original team. This team went on to make hellgate london, torchlight series, and it lurks below. They are split up doing their own things now.

[@mortegon583]

Interesting that the fast travel spots show up early in multiplayer. They exist in single player, but only appear when you come out of them for the first time

[@MrPwner911]

This is a pleasant surprise here!

[@ICountFrom0]

I miss playing, "the dark" a hellfire mod that was really, REALLY good. Also kind of crazy hard.

[@wehatewhen2213]

as far as i know the only two characters that have lore past this game are the rogue and the warrior which is neat but then you remember what series they are

[@joeyheinemann4013]

It’s the otter demon killing game

[@Wanderingsage7]

Unexpected but welcome

[@necogreendragon]

So I was like I recognize Adria the Witch's voice from some thing and holy heck. Her va Lani Minella has been in a lot of games. I think Blood 2: The Chosen Gabriella was the on I was thinking of.

[@ManaTheDragon]

The timing of this Diablo playthrough is so bizarre for me. My brother just asked me yesterday if I'd ever played or seen a playthrough of Diablo. My answer was no, but that's about to change.

[@YuyuHakurei]

Should try playing it. The first and second game are very fun. The second considered the best RPG of all time by the people who play it. Naka is probably the best youtuber to experience it with though. He's pretty good with covering lore in general. This game has a ton of it, but it's not important to understanding the game's base story.

[@ToHoldNothing]

Is it weird I thought Ogre was the Monk at first (and then realized Sorcerer once Naka said the name)? The artwork for it is much more like you'd think, especially with a Shaolin influence (using a staff to fight, but also can fight barehanded)

[@zzco]

Oh, yes- DevilutionX! I compiled this for linux!

[@kitesumane]

A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.

[@zacthemastodonranger]

Diablo 1 had a expansion intesting

[@melodywhispersong9541]

For the magic charge question. Your staff doesnt break, but you do need to recharge the staff. The charge skill takes one charge away but does max recharge for you

[@CCCM89]

26:40 They probably already figured this out, but spells work differently in Diablo one then they do in 2 and later games. rather then getting a set of spells/skills, you have to find tomes that will permanently unlock spells, which you view with S, I think. maybe L or P. Alternatively, just click the little icon in the lower right(the anvil and hammer for naka, a staff symbol for ogre) and that opens your spellbook. you asign spells to auto cast when you pres one of the F keys (F1, F2, etc.) but I think this mod lets you assign then to other keys, or at least swap spells and item hotkeys. So yeah, all Ogre has to cast right now would be recharge stave, which actually lowers max charge on the item. not worth it if it's an item you want to keep. Sorcerer starts out super week in this game. pray to RNGesus that you get some early damage spells dropping as tomes.

[@Vergilangel]

Will we have Diablo 2 for Halloween? Who knows!

[@usurnameunavailable]

yooooo, I freaken love diablo!

[@StarshadowMelody]

Y'know I remember trying to play this gmae on like way too modern operating systems, like Vista or later, and the colors. The colors would just _Bug the fuck out_ after a bit. Alt-tabbing always fixed it.

[@SharpmanPrime01]

Diablo? Naka, you surprise me.

[@philnagle9024]

So happy

[@thunderrex59]

She sounds like shirley from courage

[@StarshadowMelody]

This game, without the scrolling text boxes filling the whole screen, feels SO wrong.

[@sagaciousd2r303]

The Diablo 1 EXPANSION [there is no Diablo 1 expansion]!? Adding the D3 retconned name to flush the wound with salt!? Yes inquisitor, this heretic right here.

[@YuyuHakurei]

Hellfire made by Sierra who is known for making fishing games. lol

[@sagaciousd2r303]

@@YuyuHakurei I am being facetious in case that is not emphatically clear.

[@PhylloNakamura]

A lot of the voices with the accents are actually VAs from World of Warcraft. I never played Diablo 1 but it's weird hearing the female Troll and male Dwarf VAs talking. lol

[@KumaKaori]

lol, im a dumbass, my brain saw Demons! and thought, wait Naka's played through DooM already is Ogre playing through this? .... ..... .... Before parsing: WAIT, Diablo! not Doom! XD;;;

[@YuyuHakurei]

Diablo is the Doom nyahahahahahahahahaha

[@dshadows2966]

I have some mixed feelings about Diablo... not getting into what those exactly are in the commentary section. Did you know that Diablo used to be turn-based in development before it was turned into real time combat? After it became real time combat, it started resembling Gauntlet and had plenty of DNA of games that came before. The difference is that Gauntlet has enemy spawning points, whereas Diablo has a limit of enemies to tear through.

[@CloudHiro]

oh warriors can use magic in this game. things arnt that restrictive, just stats. its the sequels that are more set in stone what classes can do what.

[@YuyuHakurei]

Classes still get different values from magic and vitality. Warriors get less magic and more vitality. So warriors never get enough mana to ever rely on attack magic. They can use support magic though. Town Portal, Heal, Infravision. These kinds of spells.

[@mllarson]

Naka chooses to play a male character in a game with a female character? What madness is this?

[@YuyuHakurei]

I'm the same way but I usually pick the sorceror in this game. Rogue is more fun when you play through with another class first anyway. They super fun for a second playthrough.

[@raptor79]

Shame the bard is op since she has identify as a base skill

[@ICountFrom0]

Ornate is one of the worse ones, -10% of max mana.

[@ICountFrom0]

Abandoned Shrine +2 dex.

[@YuyuHakurei]

Elixirs exist to usually solve these effects, but they don't work on life or mana alterations.

[@ICountFrom0]

Ahyup, and that's what makes the yellow zombie a thing of horror.