DIABLO like NEVER before: The HELL 3 Mod

[@StefaNonsense]

Here's the link to the mod: www.moddb.com/mods/diablo-the-hell-3

[@VarnasL]

How is it that games over 20 years old feel more alive than ever, while modern ones are already fading into obscurity? Those older games were created during a perfect window of time when they were seen as a quirky niche, something so insignificant that big companies didn’t even consider them a threat. This lack of corporate oversight gave developers the freedom to create whatever they wanted, resulting in experiences that were often bold, unique, and deeply personal.

[@StefaNonsense]

There's a lot that goes into that, the discussion about older games and gaming in general is multi-layered, however what was indeed much more present in the past overall was a sense of self-expression through experimentation. This still exists now, it never really goes away, but only in the indie realm 😃 Thanks for watching!

[@szebike]

Yes thats why I prefer well made indie games these days they have similar vibes.

[@Darkestestmatter]

Never would I have believed to live enough to see a gunslinger in Diablo. Wow! :)

[@StefaNonsense]

It's the current sub-subclass I play when it start it up. It's super fun afaic!

[@alexdodd5175]

Which one exactly? Unable to find it for some reason.

[@A_Dopamine_Molecule]

Finally, this mod is getting the recognition it deserves. Thank you 😊

[@StefaNonsense]

Thank you too, for watching!

[@leftypistolero5983]

Looks like a fun weekend. Thanks!

[@StefaNonsense]

It definitely can be, I suggest you try the Pistoleer. It's a Game Changer under Warrior>Guardian, I believe 😉 Thanks for watching!

[@la912]

Seems like an awesome mod

[@StefaNonsense]

I clearly think so 😁 Thanks for watching!

[@MagicIsaacSage]

The progression loop reminds me of quite a few idle games: Hit a plateau, then rebirth and grind for new plateau.

[@StefaNonsense]

Or a more rogue-like approach, or even a more current-day MMO one but sans the annoying gankers and whatnot 😉 Thanks for watching!

[@AnriDarkmoor]

Wait, how long has the class that had used guns been in this mod?! I've been playing it off and on for a year or so and never knew that haha, just so many classes. So far have mostly just played a Demonologist and Sharpshooter. Game is hard as balls though 🤣So anyone who tries it, you'll have fun or get easily frustrated, or in my case, both.

[@StefaNonsense]

I dunno when it was added but you should also know it's a Game Changer not a proper sub-class, you'll find it as the last Game Changer for Warrior>Guardian 😉 Thanks for watching!

[@AnriDarkmoor]

@@StefaNonsense OH! Okay I see, thanks!

[@TheCraziestFox]

Blunt weapons being better against undead and bladed weapons against demons is already present in normal D1. Axes being the middle point and equally useful. I want to like Hell 3, but it messes with the atmosphere and that's a huge dealbreaker for me.

[@StefaNonsense]

Huh, never noticed any special mentions about weapons in relation to their anti-undead or anti-demonnessness... Like I say at the end, this isn't about the atmosphere, nor story, it's about just having insane fun IF you find what I describe fun, which I do!

[@TheCraziestFox]

I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere in-game, but it is a mechanic present in D1. But I told a lie. Bladed weapons are more effective against "animal" enemies, demons get smacked by all things equally well. Either way, there is a reason that warrior starts with a sword AND a club.

[@boonycutzu]

OMG... yes A sword AND A CLUB...for the warrior I never ever even questioned it... I dismissed that piece of wood every single time. What else have i been blind to in D1 for these last 27 years?

[@EddieSpaghetti69]

@@boonycutzu You can really feel it at low levels, a mace will do great against the undead but the same DMG on The Butcher results in new players getting ganked. It gives you a false sense of security.

[@alexdodd5175]

What is the class for a pistol shooter? Some rogue? Which one? I could not find it in the character creation menu for some reason.

[@StefaNonsense]

Because it isn't a normal subclass, Pistoleer is a Game Changer which you find under the Warrior>Guardian subclass 😀 Thanks for watching!

[@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180]

Lots of people talking about the feel of the game and it being ruined due to making the game convoluted. I get you guys, but I want convolution and big mechanics out of my ARPGs: I want to play with 8 friends and that every single one of them gets a unique character that has its own way of play, to carefully build 3-4 chars to switch when the gang needs this or that, and to exchange cool loot among my raving band of demonhunters (" I got a sword of +5 strenght that I don't need anymore" give it to my nephew that just started playing, negotiate on who gets the king's stone or the jade bow of the phoenix, all that) which I can't recall.if either The Hell 2 or Belzebub did not have (both are great mods, don't get me wrong, but trading is a must for me and my friends)

[@StefaNonsense]

Like I say at the end, it's a very "de gustibus" sort of thing, you either in or out and it's fine either way! Thanks for watching!

[@alexdodd5175]

Is it compatible with devilutionX? Does it run on mini-consoles like anbernic or its competitors?

[@StefaNonsense]

It is not compatible with other mods. I do not think it runs on the console version of Diablo, but I am not sure. It's not something I normally check for since I am PC human 😃 Thanks for watching!

[@alexdodd5175]

@ i view devX rather as a portable oss engine. Pretty much Like stratagus to starcraft1 and warcraft1..2. And they claim themselves as a foundation for other mods. So i’ve asked. No search results confirming the compatibility so far. So i guess D1 is not getting those goodies on exotic platforms and on gnu-linux in general. Just as you’ve said.

[@alexdodd5175]

@ so far it has failed to run on my steamdeck witn proton9. Stuck on the intro video, not even reaching the menu. The very same files work ok on my windows laptop. Sharing these results just in case.

[@jamesrideout123]

Can you equip the armor and have your skin change like in Diablo 1 with heavier armors? for example "gothic plate" gives you the appearance of a knight, but in this game all I see is cloth type armor? Also their is a quest for a "special weapon" which I was wondering if you could elaborate on since I haven't gotten it yet? This is definitely the best mod I have ever played and I thought Devilution was amazing.

[@StefaNonsense]

I don't think your skin changes tbh but that may be subclass-specific to the ones I played, and I played mostly Necro. As for the quest question the only certain quest weapon you get is from the Anvil of Fury quest, otherwise most other quests have a "random magic item" as their reward. Thanks for watching!

[@EMDakka]

you only forgot to leave a link to the mod itself

[@StefaNonsense]

I'll get to that in a bit, thanks for bringing it to my attention and for watching! 😃 Check back later!

[@StefaNonsense]

I added it in the pinned comment 😉

[@unacomn]

Some of the features are nice, but to me it feels a lot like the later Painkiller expansions.

[@StefaNonsense]

I only played the first one and the Battle Out Of Hell, which is way better than the main game 😁

[@Shiver_Bane]

It's a good mod, just needs the HD upgrade that Belzabub has to be better.

[@StefaNonsense]

I covered Belzebub a long-long time ago as well 😁 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHbIlmesac1jiKc But to be honest I did not really miss playing it on much higher res than the mod allows for to begin with. Thanks for watching!

[@byronschwarz9124]

I thought the hell 2 mod was still in development

[@StefaNonsense]

I'm fairly sure I read that development on Hell 2 is done. Thanks for watching!

[@pavelyankouski4913]

Interesting, but why he doesnt want to create his own game, instead of pushing last pixels from the reverse engine. I still play sometimes Diablo 1 and 2, but I didnt liked Hell mod at the beginning. He definitely have to look at the Unreal Engine , and "PhoenixMarket" youtube Diablo channel.

[@StefaNonsense]

Doing smth from scratch, even with the engines of today, is a much more difficult and daunting task than working with already existing mechanics and assets. Also, it is possible the person will eventually graduate to smth else. Oftentimes, modding is a gateway into more advanced development. But also, maybe you just want to make mods cause that's what you prefer. To each their own, really 😀 Thanks for watching!

[@pavelyankouski4913]

@StefaNonsense You need 6 month to get into UnrealEngine45, especially now with hundreds of AA+ components in their marketplace

[@kez963]

Diablo with guns? the game is X-Fire which we never got :')

[@StefaNonsense]

I am not familiar with that, what is it?

[@kez963]

@StefaNonsense It is a cancelled game from Sir-tech Software around late 90's

[@StefaNonsense]

@kez963 OK, I get it, I just streamed JA2 btw 😉 and features it on the video before this one

[@kez963]

@StefaNonsense That is awesome 😎

[@kez963]

@@StefaNonsense I also trying to upload obscure game when ever I can lol

[@pitecusH]

So this mod basically Path of Exile-ified Diablo I, with hints of Fallout. Yeah, nah, seems WAY too convoluted.

[@StefaNonsense]

To each their own, maybe Belzebub is more up your alley kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHbIlmesac1jiKc Thanks for watching!

[@Yuy_V.2]

too bad it's a diablo 1 mod, if it were a diablo 2 i may have been more interested

[@StefaNonsense]

Ah well, though I have played a really cool D2 mod as well, Median XL and I got a lot of crap when I said it's better than paying for Resurrected so D2 is more of a mine field 😁Thanks for watching this one though!

[@KingLich451]

what the hell indeed 😅

[@StefaNonsense]

Indeed! Thanks for watching!

[@decem_sagittae]

While I see the potential of this mod I think it's too bloated and contrived. Especially with all those stupid and out-of-place classes. And with the guns.... Just no!

[@StefaNonsense]

There's also The Hell 2 and 1 and they have less stuff in them. Personally, I obviously love all the weird classes, but like I say at the end, it's a subjective taste thing. You either like this approach or you don't, either are equally valid. Thanks for watching!

[@inthefade]

It doesn't take away from the original game or anything.

[@StefaNonsense]

@inthefade I do my best to make it clear it's a really different game and you're either into it or not, it's that simple at the end of the day 🤷‍♂️ Thanks for watching!

[@samdavies2069]

The hell 2 was exactly this, change for the sake of change, trying to reinvent the wheel and to many conflicting ideas, had an awful time with it and wouldn’t recommend anyone waste their time with it.

[@StefaNonsense]

@samdavies2069 I obviously disagree but thanks for watching!

[@silencingmachine2671]

Beelzebub is still better

[@StefaNonsense]

It's defo different, seeing as I covered it many years back as well kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHbIlmesac1jiKc As to whether it's better, that's a subjective thing. Thanks for watching!

[@Lemistio123]

Nah, it's too convoluted

[@StefaNonsense]

De gustibus and whatnot. Thanks for watching!

[@HatredPrime]

Some items are stolen from Grim Dawn.

[@StefaNonsense]

Stolen is another word for "tribute" and "homage"😃 ! Thanks for watching!