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@TheGodLycan2 жыл бұрын
Have you found that your lats are now more active since they have grown in exercises you didn't feel them in the past? like the pulldown or pull up's or do you still have trouble feeling them in those exercises.
@GVS2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGodLycan yes usually if you have a weak point that you are 't hitting with compounds, then you bring it up, it'll be more involved with the compounds you used to not be able to target it with. For example, I used to get pretty minimal chest with close grip bench press, to the point where someone asked me why "I didn't have any chest muscles" back in 2018. But now, after more focused chest training using other movements, I feel the chest working quite a bit on close grip work. Same has been true of lats and pullups/pulldowns, though I still have to focus on them quite a bit. Basically, the body will recruit the muscle most suited to the task, and if something is overly weak, it just won't get recruited much, until you correct the weakness in some other way. Eventually, I'll likely write a book on this but I'm finishing the other one first.
@TheGodLycan2 жыл бұрын
@@GVS Thanks Geoff that makes a lot of sense. Would doing these more isolation exercises before compounds increase the activation of the muscle during those or decrease it? For example, would doing a Pullover before a Pull Up increase the lat activation in a Pull up or decrease it.
@GVS2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGodLycan could be either. If you have tired lats and so use your biceps more it'll be less lats...but if you focus on the lats it'll be more. Also is a balance between fatigue and activation. Bit complicated (hence the book!)
@unspokengaming56912 жыл бұрын
Great video as always are kneeling lat pullovers just as effective as standing lat pullovers
@JuliusCaesar1032 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video like this about every single muscle group, your biggest breakthroughs in training them.
@TheGodLycan2 жыл бұрын
yes please, i think going over Ques that have worked with clients and Ques that haven't for certain exercises would be great to watch. theres a lot of advice and a lot of Ques that get given out for different exercises. Knowing what works and what doesn't or just a better way of thinking about an exercise is always appreciated. i understand it can be somewhat individual from there starting place like your not going to tell someone with a neutral spine in a squat to relax your back but you would to someone who nautrally wants to hyper extend it.
@GVS2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWWkk56PoqmimJI A good start, I'll definitely cover more muscle groups as well.
@DreymaComposer2 жыл бұрын
@@GVS Ultimate guide to big glutes, traps, would love to see more in that format!
@Lolek0801952 жыл бұрын
@@GVS add this "diagonal" video to that playlist :)
@rockyevans15842 ай бұрын
@@TheGodLycancues. Queue means something else, like putting things in a certain order or list
@AlexLeonidas2 жыл бұрын
Diagonal pulls are a game changer, especially after building a base! Ayeeeee got me with that ghetto lat pulldown mention, no doubt you'd love the contractions 😂💪
@thom83632 жыл бұрын
This may explain the insane lat feeling I get from muscle ups, where I pull AWAY, then over. It is a diagonal motion
@GVS2 жыл бұрын
Yep! You're forced to take the biceps somewhat out of it.
@TheShmrsh Жыл бұрын
@@GVS isn't it comes out from compound category
@ryanschultz9037 Жыл бұрын
That's a good point, the lats move through the greatest range of motion in the pull up into muscle-up combination (though it takes a fair amount of strength and coordination). I like pull overs as an easier motion, and tricep extensions where the lats stabilize the tricep motion. But the downward squeeze of the muscle up is unbeatable.
@DCJayhawk572 жыл бұрын
Cable pullovers/lat prayers and DB pullovers are very underrated. A big benefit of DB pullovers over the cable variants you didn't mention is serratus involvement. I think they're one of the only exercises that really targets the serratus which help with the appearance of big lats from the front, are important for shoulder health, and will help you perform a lat spread. A good cue to use is pushing the weight away at the top of the movement when the lats are no longer really doing anything. That protraction isn't really used by many on chest movements.
@m1ch4Lko2 жыл бұрын
Your progress is amazing. And at the same time the progress photos are a great reality check... to realize how long it actually takes to build muscle. Most people expect to get huge within a year or two max, whereas in reality it takes much longer (at least for 99.9% of unenhanced people). Great job.
@Protein-Man2 жыл бұрын
I started doing "NH style" pullups and i added a radical arch to it (Bassically making it a diagonal pull) and MAN DO THEY WORK YOUR LATS. Always did full ROM pullups (I can do 20+ of these) and i got A nice upperback, but never got the lats that i wanted Now with these NH pullups, i can barely do 6-7 and i feel my lats getting wrecked, Those coupled with "Lat Rows" and One arm band illiac pulldown are amazing for lats IMO. In summary: Based Uncle Geoff
@GVS2 жыл бұрын
Yep I get people asking me how many pullups I do in a set and they're very underwhelmed by the numbers...but quality over quantity!
@Protein-Man2 жыл бұрын
@@GVS The sad thing is that after a year of lat focused work, your inner back will never feel the warmth of a hug ever again...
@Lolek0801952 жыл бұрын
@@GVS I underwhelmed myself when almost every year I stop doing 12+ pull ups and go back to maybe 5 per set XD But at least the number go back up pretty fast. Glad to read that others like Protein-Man went trough the same thing.
@coachingconfidant27852 жыл бұрын
@@Protein-Man only reason their good is cuz they hit the lower lat and theres better ways to hit the lower
@pacman7328 Жыл бұрын
whats NH pull ups?
@hussainattai46382 жыл бұрын
A certain machine not available everywhere, called the “front lat pull down” or the “high row”, excellent lat exercise!
@nullvektor99222 жыл бұрын
The high row is more upper back but you can hack that machine for lats if you're not very tall. Put the seat on the lowest setting and use one of the cable attachments (spongy grip thingy you use for cable flyes) on the handle. It perfectly mimics a chest-supported Iliac pull or the diagonal pulldown you mentioned.
@hussainattai46382 жыл бұрын
@@nullvektor9922 This is the machine that I have access to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioOmZn95js5pjZI Idk if it just me, but it obliterates my lats
@nullvektor99222 жыл бұрын
@@hussainattai4638 Yes, this one is the lat dominant version. I was talking about the classic high row that doesn't allow you to grip supinated. I use the cable handles to ghetto rig the high row in my gym to be more like the one you posted.
@nullvektor99222 жыл бұрын
I actually found a video for people who want to try it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYuVc52Hi7OWabM
@arian38372 жыл бұрын
I have this machine at my gym its great
@MM-qm9ld Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of what I call a lat crunch, which is just essentially a kneeling single arm lat pulldown from a cable machine. You can manipulate whatever angle you want based on how far or angled you are from the pulley. I also like it bc it isolates just one lat at a time which worked wonders for me in just focusing on the best rom on each side. Theres a little twist you can do at the end that you simply cant do on a straight bar, for example. A fun thing to also consider is that all back movements or pull movements are essentially a row. Pull downs are just a downward row. Rear delts are a flared row, and even traps, done properly (which is rare), are basically an upward row. When you start to view back movements as a variety of rowing motions it can help take the mystique out of it and improve your isolation.
@rockyevans15846 ай бұрын
Hate to ruin any fun, but how is a hip hinge pull a row? Wasn't sure why that was a fun way to think about things anyways
@cooperhewes2 жыл бұрын
Rings can be very useful to target the lats without running into elbow issues. Also to rehab elbow issues the missing link for a lot of people is supination/pronation work. Use a dumbbell loaded on one side only or anything with most of the weight on one side like a hammer or axe for example. Check out Steven Low for more detailed info.
@matthewhorseler42142 жыл бұрын
Love your book and I love your channel. Thank you for all our knowledge and wisdom. Hope you're having a fantastic week, bro. Look forward to all your future videos.
@mohammedyousif76782 жыл бұрын
Thank you Geoffrey! I have never been able to feel my lats before or get them sore until this video. The past couple of moths I have started to see decent definition especially from 6:38 and neutral chin ups so keep up the good work👌
@tonytone1378 Жыл бұрын
Alberto Nunez talks about the diagonal pull being a great way to target the mid and lower trapezius. He also made a post which you can find when you search "high row 3dmj". He calls them trapezius 3-4, with the upper traps being considered trapezius 1-2.
@proforce14972 жыл бұрын
I have been saying this, doing Archer pull ups work the lats more than anything
@alien91142 жыл бұрын
What else
@QazJer2 жыл бұрын
the variation at 5:30 looks like the best one, your lats are contracting like crazy in that video. I've been doing the N1 single arm ones, but something about the lack of stability or not being able to use a ton of weight makes me feel like there's a better way for me.
@cromdevotee4492 жыл бұрын
ABout pullovers, one thing John Meadows taught was to only bring the dumbell up until it enters your field of vision/reaches your eyes if you want to isolate lats. If you bring it over your chest you tend to feel your pecs take over.
@FitAfter502 жыл бұрын
I started diagonal pulls about a month ago or so. I felt the mind muscle connection immediately and much,much more than I do on lat pulls it pull ups. I appreciate your explanation here and realize why I felt that connection. Having said that I am still a 170 pound twirp 🙂. I just cannot get over the food thing and always eat on the side of caution as if I was still an endurance athlete concerned about my weight 🤷
@RishabhSharma102252 жыл бұрын
Really good video. Once I learned the mind muscle connection with lats, my lats just blew up. Earlier I could do 10-12 pullups but had non existent lats. I couldn't feel them working either, obviously. Then I learned the function of lats and where they insert and it all made sense and I finally started feeling lats. Now I can still do only 13-14 pullups but they're entirely using lats and my lats are my best body part now.
@conor33612 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear the cues you now use, I find pulling with the elbows and retracting scapula helps alot
@AnonMusk3692 жыл бұрын
What changes did you make in doing pullups to use lats? Please let us know, thanks!
@RishabhSharma102252 жыл бұрын
@@AnonMusk369 just the mind muscle connection. To an outsider, my pull-ups would still look the same as before. Now I pull my elbows down using my lats. In order to get the mind muscle connection with lats, think about closing your armpit. The lats close the armpit. Do not think about closing your elbow angle. Let it happen like you have no control over it. Only focus on what's happening at the shoulder.
@beninebot12 жыл бұрын
2:29 Saw this cable pullover on your channel a couple months back and decided to give it a try, and ive been doing it constantly since and MAN my lats have blown up. Super underrated.
@BonytoBeastly2 жыл бұрын
I've been having trouble hitting my lats ever since switching to a barbell home gym. I'll try those Chinese Apartment Chin-Ups. Those look great :)
@carlicbread81992 жыл бұрын
If you have a barbell you can still do pullovers, just replace the dumbbell for a barbell
@BonytoBeastly2 жыл бұрын
@@carlicbread8199 Thank you, man. I've tried pullovers with barbells and curl-bars (and the rest of the stuff recommended in this video), but it hasn't been working that well for me. It's not that it hasn't been working AT ALL, just that it doesn't compare to how well I was able to stimulate my lats at a commercial gym.
@wildadventurer97522 жыл бұрын
You could also try regular neutral grip pullups (even weighted)
@BonytoBeastly2 жыл бұрын
@@wildadventurer9752 Thanks, man. Those are my current go-to (using gymnastic rings), but I'm hoping this other variant biases my lats a bit more.
@nmnate2 жыл бұрын
@@BonytoBeastly I feel my lats the most with the neutral grip / moderate width pullup. If I got a little more narrow / supinated I feel more biceps and actually a bit of my chest at the contracted position (but still fairly good lat workout). I have a harder time feeling my lats in a wider pronated grip (more teres major). Definitely a sweet spot for targeting the lats IMO. You should be able to smoke your lats with a set of rings once you find the width that works for you (and drive through your elbows).
@cesaryamaguchi55182 жыл бұрын
Just started doing this exercise a couple of weeks ago. In vertical pulling I just felt too much of the Teres major, but diagonal pullings are 👌🥵
@bobjenkins49252 жыл бұрын
Your physique especially now gives massive Henry Cavil in Man of Steel vibes, very impressive
@Vampire__Squid2 жыл бұрын
He's a lot bigger than him, Henry Cavill was 190 lbs at 6'1" in Man of Steel
@lerippletoe68932 жыл бұрын
I think it becomes very obvious to lean back in vertical lat pulldown movements because it allows you to finish a clean contraction all the way until the bar touches your chest rather than having no true endpoint of the ROM when you do it completely vertical where it gets absurdly harder and shifts to your arms below the chin. The back leaning neutral grip pullups (chinups work the same way) both accomplish the same thing really well. Vince Gironda advocated the former in the exact partial ROM way
@FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I need, definitely gonna incorporate some of these exercises! Cheers.
@Ethan-Relearning-Movement2 жыл бұрын
Exploding lats are GOATED. Your tiny segment on the arc at 12:00 is probably going to be underrated, possibly because you have covered to so many other fantastic options, but it's a great tip! I'm keen to make a video almost entirely on this, particularly for optimizing dumbbell rows.
@mamumurako2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that that’s what it’s called but I was exploring to feel my lats more and that diagonal pull downs greatly helped my lats grow. But I’ve done it more as a single arm pull, just a better mind muscle connection (for me) Really great video! Definitely recommend diagonal pulls to anyone that’s lacking on the lats.
@yrodem52702 жыл бұрын
I love plate loaded front lat pulldown machines, feels incredible on lats.
@john-atallah2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy a chest supported row at a higher position hits that diagonal for me with a sweeping motion of the Lats. Great video, excited to try your Chinese pullups
@therippedemon2 жыл бұрын
Great video topic. Once I discovered lateral pull movements and dialed in the motion, my lats really got fired up. I always start my back workouts with them to build that connection and warm them up good for the rest of the workout.
@benjaminwlang11 ай бұрын
Love this. I've had the worst time trying to engage my lats. I intuitively discovered recently that doing lats diagonally helped me hit them better. I wish I had found this earlier.
@killianjudemisagal97544 ай бұрын
Geoffrey, Im sorry to hear that your lats exploded, you have my condlences, I wish for a quick recovery from this situation both physically and mentally. love your mistress
@EIIende2 жыл бұрын
I get a great (lower) lat pump from pendlay rows, not exactly diagonal but wow. Gamechanger for me.
@MASKETOH2 жыл бұрын
exactly, the first thing that came to my mind with the title and the intro were pendlay rows (not saying that the rest are bad exercises just that I am shocked that pendlay came last on the vid)
@alexmoore5970 Жыл бұрын
I’m an avid lifter (and powerlifting/strongman 10+yrs) and even then I learned something new, thank you for the information.
@sean53642 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, when I first started workout out 2 years ago my lats were blowing up and we’re easily my best body part, but for about a year now I haven’t changed my routine all that much and now feel like it’s my lagging part.
@kedololx2 жыл бұрын
3:01 i noticed this! I just started doing this exercise, and I've been mimicking what I see in the gym and on videos, and my triceps will give out before my lats. Sometimes I don't even know if I'm doing it right. I use a straight bar, staggered stance, straight arms and pull it to my hips. Triceps will burn.
@majungasaurusaaaa5 ай бұрын
Look at the hammer strength pull down machine dorian yates used. It's a 45 degree diagonal pull. His bb row is also bent over at 45 degrees instead of horizontal.
@leinekenugelvondoofenfocke10022 жыл бұрын
I do pullovers with bent arms. Back in the silver era of bodybuilding the bent arm variation was trained as a power lift. It was a priority exercise in terms of bringing up the bench press. Some guys even had pullovers as heavy as their bench presses. Then equipped lifting came around, and people did other things for their bench. The nautalis came around, and they used it to kick out the triceps and get bigger lats. It fell out of favor in both worlds, but if you a raw lifter that wants a bigger bench, and you give this some priority you can get alot out of the exercise, it puts meat alot of places meat really helps for a bench press.
@@bengiebeler4683 I have some experience with this lift I can share with you. Number 1. It's better to put it later in the workout because you are already warm, and it is actually going to be incredibly disruptive due to the stretch. Number 2. It's better to warm up by using a light weight, and doing a few sets adding more range of motion to each set. This stretch gets real, if you go to fast with your warm ups the soreness can kneecap every other workout in the week. 3. It hits the triceps harder than you think, that fatigue must be planned for, in order to keep it from interfering with presses. There is a degree of carryover to pressing that comes with the interference, but it isn't going to be to the same degree as the presses themselves so if pressing is of higher priority you should do these afterwards. 4. If you are gonna attack these, some of your vertical pulling is probably gonna have to take a back seat. These are very distruptive. 5. It's place in a workout almost demands that you use a dynamic double progression model. However if you miss a set, I would advise adding a set too, because you are already going to be pretty sore if you are hitting it with the right amount of effort, so you might as well get some loose change.
@Damianpaulpod2 жыл бұрын
I'll definitely have to experiment with more diagonal pulls. Back training has always been a bit of weak point for me so I'll definitely implement the wisdom in this video.
@ivanfoofoo2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had watched this video 15 years ago. I learned how to train the lats like 2 years ago and this video sums it all up.
@GVS2 жыл бұрын
Yea they're definitely a muscle group that's possible to avoid actually training for many years.
@squirrellsquats84282 жыл бұрын
@@GVS The Steve Reeves low cable row is a prime example of diagonal pulling. He was certainly ahead of the curve with many of the exercises he used.
@bjiffy102 жыл бұрын
The machine high row... Is an excellent machine that fits the bill also. I have to agree the diagonal angle is amazing for lats
@niatsdoolb2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying those standing cable pulldowns. You're still beating me on the lats and serratus, this may just help me catch up!
@TheComedyButchers2 жыл бұрын
Doing pullups by pulling to your sternum might work better because the limiting factor of a traditional pullup us your elbow flexors, but because you’re hinging out so far the limiting factor now becomes your lats
@bluehaven84722 жыл бұрын
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@rahulshendre70892 жыл бұрын
Man your content is epic, just try to increase your camera quality a small recommendation from an early subscriber
@syedzaheerhussainshahkazmi12412 жыл бұрын
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@pengqin75902 жыл бұрын
I admire you hard work in sets, this is reflected in the entertaining clips of your facial expressions 🤣🤣
@TheStooch2 жыл бұрын
I tossed in some unilateral pulldowns at a diagonal today just because of this video. I've never felt my lats squeeze so hard before. Gonna have to add more diagonal pulls for sure!
@keithdrummond10032 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Lats have always been one of those muscle groups I've had trouble engaging.
@ThePhilipinho2 жыл бұрын
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@bva02 жыл бұрын
I used to love doing standing lat pull downs, but had to stop because of lower back pain. Never thought of trying to do it sitting down. Cool idea!
@nathanligon6666 Жыл бұрын
Those cable pullovers were the most insane sets I've ever seen 👀
@diverdown812 жыл бұрын
Just did the rope variation standing today...felt it pretty damn good. Pulldowns have been hurting my shoulders lately due to a labral tear. These felt painless.
@sonicwave322 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that "diagonal" pulling angles are underrated. There's no particular reason why you have to stick to perfect horizontal and vertical, and introducing them as a variation can load your body in different ways to cover more bases and prevent overuse injuries. I'd love to see a similar video on diagonal presses if you don't have one already, especially in place of vertical presses (as incline/decline presses are well known already). Namely, I've been trying standing 1-arm landmine presses in place of barbell OHP and have been loving them so far. The combination of the inclined pressing angle and increased stability allows me to grind out lots of reps without worrying about my back bending, and I get more upper chest as well.
@davidanthony74952 жыл бұрын
AaaaahhhhhHaHaHaHa that is quite a facial reaction 3:00 bro……. Made my day…. 🤣
@birdman4birdlegs2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the apartment pullups you're doing are essentially gironda pullups or sternum pullups. It almost mimics a pullover because of the angle your body adjust to represents the curving motion of a dumbell or a cable machine
@Legate_Lanius2 жыл бұрын
I recommend looking at what the calisthenics guys do. Doing tucked front lever and front lever raises really exploded my lats. Also the mind muscle connection with the front lever is greater than anything I have ever tried for the lats.
@NaturalSpiritConnections2 жыл бұрын
This is one reason working with heavy clubbells will explode your lat development. Majority of the movements done with very heavy clubbells are overhead/ 360 swings/ inner-outer circles. All of these movements demand a lot of stabilization from the lats and any movement taking the club that moves the club over your head, behind your back, and back in front of your body is going to be monstrously beneficial for developing huge lats. Diagonal movement like that with a 45 lb club for multiple reps turns you into a gorilla. Great content also. Peace :)
@sbeaber2 жыл бұрын
Diagonal pulls are great for me. Try it at a slight angle . Looking away. Really lights up my lats.
@domidunks2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, never tried pullovers and only played with neutral grip pulldowns until you programmed them in my plan. I finally started feeling my lats way more on these movements. I haven’t done weighted chins in about 4 months but I hit my PR(255lbs total) for 3 the other day on a whim with low effort, I contribute this to the neutral grip pulldowns which got my lats way stronger. I appreciate what you do for the fitness community Geoffrey, I’m learning more and more about programming/training each day!
@MaD_KiLLR2 жыл бұрын
I was taking a look at some electromyographic differences between diagonal and vertical pulling and most people will see superior results with just vertical pulling... However I am NOT denying this very well individualized approach. For educational purposes this is an amazing video, showing that there's more to it than what meets the eye.
@Bulkingonly2 жыл бұрын
Good evening from the Philippines, Coach GVS!! 💪🏼🇵🇭
@theyoungfool.18952 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Dumbbell pullovers are my favourite exercise, it’s nice seeing it here.
@ZacFelts2 жыл бұрын
Lats were definitely a muscle group that I had to build some decent strength in before I could really start to connect with. Also, during the lockdowns, I found myself in a similar situation where I had a pullup bar that didn't allow me to fully extend at the bottom or pull my head/chest above the bar without smacking the ceiling, so I did a lot of pullups like the ones you described and was surprised how much I liked them! They sorta feel like a pullup/row hybrid. I also fiddled around with putting my gym rings on the bar and doing that style pullup on them. The neutral grip + being able to get my chest "through" the point I was pulling from was a great combo
@CaptainCowboy476 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff. I have tried the Ghetto pulls from A.D. they work the best I have ever seen. I always have had trouble with getting lats activated. These are spectacular
@kerem1212 жыл бұрын
in the fully lengthened position, you get the full lat activation from the lowest point of lat insertion. working lats does require mind to muscle connection until you have a foundation built.
@StayCURIOUSWithUs2 жыл бұрын
Very true. I had problems building lats for years. But after a year with ropes and cabels they grow ass hell💪💪 Always start your back training with activate your lats with ropes/cabels exercies!!!
@malcxm542 жыл бұрын
YOURE Goated brother I really appreciate your guidance and videos🙏🏽 we as a community are very lucky to have someone like you making videos :)
@AdamScottfit2 жыл бұрын
The ''lat pulldown'' in its standard setup confused a lot of people. Great progress Geoffrey!
@Limbaugh_2 жыл бұрын
I’m very pleased that you climb, I just climbed hard yesterday and had to do rows with torn finger skin today
@tommy90210_2 жыл бұрын
I did the seated lat pulldowns and 3 of my homies also did it and we never felt the same pump with other exercises SOOO RECOMMENDED
@garrettnolin9931 Жыл бұрын
Finally feel my Lata like crazy with the seated cable pullover
@dabualifts2 жыл бұрын
Diagonal Pulls...LAT me think about that!
@richiec22642 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY laughed my ass off with the Harry Potter Diagon Alley meme! Great choices with your memes, great work and thanks for your vids!
@nogheadz49872 жыл бұрын
Baller video my guy! Thanks. I would like to see more of these muscle group videos where you test out movements. If I may offer one piece of feedback - the content I enjoy the least is the natural vs enhanced debate. I don’t really care, I don’t really want to hear about it. The training variables that matter to me are similar for both, and it comes across negatively to me. Anyway, keep up the great content! Thanks
@GankScythe2 жыл бұрын
2:52 that face is the face of a man digging deep, respect.
@piyushdwivedi71952 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, would love this kind of videos for other movements too.
@SchmittsPeter2 жыл бұрын
For pullups, don't grip to wide and use a L-sit or tucked L-sit variant with mostly vertical torso (your body will be further behind the bar, which means that you mainly hit the lats when pulling straight down).
@henrymeyergarvey19472 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting so long for someone to make a video on this one good job man it takes a while to figure out that there is other ways to workout besides the black and white stuff
@alii27302 жыл бұрын
This is why the high row machine is king for lat development.
@EpicMathTime2 жыл бұрын
Another great tip from Geoffson Vertical Shoemaker
@gerardt32842 жыл бұрын
I learned to diagonal pull from arm wrestling, in arm wrestling you constantly have to pull the opponents hand down towards you in a diagonal motion with ridiculous force requirements (one arm 60kg+ at least)
@comicalcomicsdotcomics7262 жыл бұрын
Yessss. I love diagonal pulls. Horizontal and vertical are a staple in any good routine, yes. But my best SFR comes from cable high rows. I've always been big into calisthenics since I started and very very rarely get sore lats from pull ups, but high rows very often get em nice and tender the next day.
@comicalcomicsdotcomics7262 жыл бұрын
Also. "downfall of pull ups"? Cue Greta Thunberg's How Dare You speech. 🤣
@spoonman732 жыл бұрын
I believe you because I used to do my pullups on a tree branch which forced me to do them diagonal and my lats would always get a good pump.
@A-LX2 жыл бұрын
This video came at the perfect time, been wanting to add more lat volume without irritating my elbow. Had some issues with golfer's elbow after doing too many weighted pull ups, cant wait to test some of these out!
@reidanderson69532 жыл бұрын
I like the faces you make when you go to failure. It looks like your shredding an electric ⚡️ guitar 🎸 or your just a mad man.
@Liabl8512 жыл бұрын
been working out for a year know never new i could learn so much thanks for the free advice !
@HomemadeArmory12 жыл бұрын
I’ve never really seen anyone doing these, but I seemed to find that doing straight-arm rope Pulldowns single-arm has some value! Personally I’ve found single-arm Pulldowns, whether straight-arm or regular vertical Pulldowns, to seem to make it easier for me to engage my lats
@feveredmushroomHD2 жыл бұрын
2:25 man i can not look away from the man pulling the planet!
@porqpine532 жыл бұрын
My old school bodybuilding gym has two diagonal row machines from back in the day. You said it best. It’s goated. I use the rope attachment to really pull down and around my torso
@bobjenkins49252 жыл бұрын
'Do I think getting good at these movements is better than getting strong on barbell rows and lat pulldowns? Well actually yes' lmao I love this part. We're so used to people answering that question opposite due to peer pressure
@CaptainCowboy4768 ай бұрын
I first saw these on alpha destiny. These are the best for lat development.
@renasouza82612 жыл бұрын
I trained pullups for many months and my strength was going up nicely, then It suddenly halted and a few weeks ago I discovered I was using mainly biceps, I had to stop using weights and cut my reps in half to be able to actually hit my back.
@Marunius2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my story except I have not fixed this issue yet haha.
@renasouza82612 жыл бұрын
@@Marunius It was worth it, pullups feel very natural now...
@Real-12 жыл бұрын
How do you now if you're using your back or biceps?
@ambrosejp26942 жыл бұрын
Been doing these out of necessity of having a shitty home cable system I don't fit on 😂 it's cool to see I've accidentally been optimising lat growth tho 💪
@counterstrike56942 жыл бұрын
Gym where I go has that Hammer Strenght Dorian Yates style pulldown machine and it has diagonal movement pattern. First it felt weird, but now I have used it for few weeks and it gets a nice pump to my lats ! So if your gym has it, use it ! Also I have done cable lat pull downs which also get nice lat activation. Last but not least I have used yates rows with supinated and pretty close grip that also hits lats pretty well for me. These three movements have definately made an impact in my lat and back strenght. I think I am also more trap/arm dominant. Noticed that my pendlay row and deadlift weight increased a bit. Sorry about the ramble :D
@Rickkhry2 жыл бұрын
Dumbell pullover can be only chest too if u don't flare your elbows and keep the arms straighter
@algofa6163 Жыл бұрын
Cable Row but the way Reeves was doing it! He would bend forward and maintain this position while he pulled. I been doing it for a month and my lats are completely burned out. I am expecting good results... we shall see. Anyhow, if it doesn't works out I'll do yours! Thanks.
@Arouth2492 жыл бұрын
Bruh, you definitely leave your ego at the door. The faces you make working out are priceless 😂 2:51 Keep up the goodness home dawg
@arturoone772 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this Very insightful video dude. I have found in trying different pull up variations that, trying to pull the bar towards my belly/lower side of my ribs, my lats were getting a ton of activation along with my abs. This is, while pullimg myself towards the horizontal plane without it turning into a planche. It goes along the arguments you outline in the video. Thanks for your experience once again man🙏.
@EASYROLLIN Жыл бұрын
The face you make when close to failure is priceless😂
@Detvanliga2 жыл бұрын
It is the lower lats that are especially hard to target. "Iliac Lat Pulldown" is especially beneficial here. And yes, Geoffrey, full ROM is actually quite short on these. .