Diamond 13 Patch Origins

What Does The Diamond 13 Mean? The "13" on the patch stood for the Top 13 "Outlaw" motorcycle clubs in Southern California, the Top 13 outlaw racing clubs were awarded the patch and a trophy. The diamond patch shape was used because it already stood for the anti-AMA movement and it was AMA who used the term 99% of bikers are law abiding.
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[@bigd9401]

#Ghostin Sanford nc

[@crimsonhawk4912]

How come the black mc's have the best looking bikes. #Ghostin

[@PeteyPablo408]

What's up with that Skull Mascara You be sporting that shit is SIC where can I get one of those?

[@12lionwhelps71]

The 13 should be the universal unity patch

[@joshuataft5541]

I'm a new sub...I apriciate the info.. the last thing I want is disrespecting other riders..I'm not in a club but I respect those who are. I do o ow you never pass a club in a group and roughly about activities and patches but that's it... thanx .be safe out there

[@davidfrancis6947]

historically it refers to the fact that there's 13 loops in the knot of a hanging noose and 13 steps on a proper gallows. the symbolism then is the wearer will hang before they betray their brothers

[@DemonsRow]

👊👊👊

[@trevorjarvis3050]

Yep... this is the story I heard decades ago, from a cop. It was inked on his right forearm.

[@robbieking2671]

13 knots 13 steps it's illegal in a lot of states to possess a noose with 13 knots in it, least that's what I was told by a county sheriff deputy when I was a teenager...

[@trevorjarvis3050]

@@robbieking2671 yes... it is in quite a few states.

[@operationtruth288]

Wow

[@rickconley3362]

Our club has wore the 13 diamond since 1962 and your explanation is pretty much what I've been thought . But the 13 was how many clubs that left the AMA back in the day . At first it was a cube then changed to a diamond . Great show as always . I'd be honored to sit down with ya and have a few drinks and talk club .

[@DemonsRow]

Gonna be doin some events soon

[@Officialmryuck]

Ay Rick much respect first of all but I want to say I remember seeing this on my grandfather's (blue jean cut?) I'm not a rider just a viber. Was the leather not a thing back then? My grandfather has passed since then so I can't ask him...

[@nategolubski8383]

@@Officialmryuck it's really up to the club. the club I'm around wears Jean cuts instead of leather

[@stevehinch2694]

@@Officialmryuck back in the day 1960s etc pretty much all cuts were denim hence the name it was a denim jacket with the sleeves cut off.....leather stated coming in much latter

[@Officialmryuck]

@@stevehinch2694 this makes allot of sense hearing this and what my father and uncle say about my grandfather. He started riding after he came back from Vietnam.

[@Cutman318]

You da Man. In 30 yrs this was the best explanation of the patch that I have ever heard. We appreciate all you do and keep pounding 💯✊🏾

[@DemonsRow]

Much love

[@shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085]

The honest truth is the 13 can mean what every your club sees fit to make it your own. Every patch on your vest means something, and it’s no bodies business but between brothers. So my 13 means something what it means to me and mine. But the next club it means something else. That’s the truth. I love how you explained this… good work homie. Your channel is so fucking real.

[@SoseTheGhost]

Its roots are its roots but other clubs have there meanings

[@Hardrada88]

Right on. Well said

[@osirissimmons9567]

Agreed I personally would use it for weed especially since the rest of patches would be band patches it'd blend in with everything else

[@mattfarris4992]

From my understanding ( could be wrong) however, the 1st wearing of the numbers 13 were by the 13 Rebels in 1937, they were the top 13 AMA racers in SoCal and formed that MC, Shortly after is when the AMA came out with the whole 99% / 1% thing, the first 13 1% clubs then started wearing the 13 square patch. i have also heard it relates to each club differently.

[@MatthewRuss-kj7yf]

There were 13 clubs given the diamond. The top 13 outlaw clubs living outside the AMA. POBOB, Galloping Goose, Tophatters, Moonshine, Boozefighters, etc. After the Hollister riot, the 1% came out of the media. It was then switched later to the 1%. These clubs still rate this patch.

[@Hardrada88]

Another great one man! Fantastic. I always saw it as a badge of recognition, a combat patch that only those who know, know of..if you will. If I ride by or am at a meet and see a 13, I feel relatively secure in the knowledge that they know their stuff, they know the life. Another reason why I don’t like the fully patched pretend cuts. I wear a plain leather cut, no patches, one support pin and my old EGA that’s it. ‘13’ was also popular with the cafe racers and early rockers as well but was mostly painted onto a jacket rather than a patch. Unlucky for some, lucky for others. 13’s legendary. Hope your doing well out there man, ride swift & steady.

[@DemonsRow]

Very true much love stuart

[@Mattt731]

Second timer and I’m fucking with the content heavy man. Much love and respect from one biker to another ✊🏼 #GHOSTIN

[@SoseTheGhost]

Welcome matt glad your here

[@adamrobertson1076]

Keep spreading good knowledge man. I've learned alot from your videos. It's truly helping me decide if the MC life is right for me. I love to ride but lone wolf since I was 19. I'm 37 now and thinking of joining a club. Wish I lived near you man. I'd love to roll with you someday. Keep killin it man. #GHOSTIN

[@DemonsRow]

Where you live adam?

[@adamrobertson1076]

@@DemonsRow Butler Indiana

[@vision821k4]

I just want to say hi and i wish you the best and if you ever that 1 percent patch, you got my back now. ima talk all types of shit and ur gonna send ur goons for me, okay?

[@racko6ix]

That's some cool history on the 13 diamond. I'm first nations and support Redrum First Nations MC. They have a 13 1/2 Diamond. Their meaning is What You mentioned in the beginning partially. Redrums take is about how our people always got the odds against us in the system. 12 jurors, 1 judge and half a chance.

[@DemonsRow]

Much respect to you and your brothers

[@harleykng6477]

@@DemonsRow i want to give a Big Shout out to the REDRUM MC Met some brothers from the PEQUOT chapter in CT Great, Respectable people # GhOsTiN

[@stimpsonsutube]

Redrum is awesome!! MLH&R

[@harleykng6477]

@@stimpsonsutube FACTS!

[@shadowwolf461]

Does redrum have a texas chapter? Yall are a bunch of cool dudes!

[@shdbmw]

Great information! Thanks for all the information you put out on the MC culture. Been riding for 30 years and learn a lot from this channel 👍🏻👍🏻

[@DemonsRow]

Much respect

[@jaydemartin7295]

Hi Sosa I never miss a episode and I binge watch the old ones much love from australia

[@DemonsRow]

Much love jayde 🙌🙌🙌

[@roberthunter5119]

Years back someone told me it meant "Mother Charter". But later learned that it was the precursor to the 1% diamond.

[@SoseTheGhost]

Yea so many different stories

[@smilingscottsman]

I've heard that too but the real meaning precedes ANY charter...

[@Overit5000]

1369 = mother chapter as well

[@stephaniecimorose9421]

13 is mother club chapter of the PAGANS!!

[@hankmarshall7686]

I was told the same thing

[@TrevorSBrown]

Nice breakdown. Thanks! I am not in a club and do not plan to be. Just not my thing but I do like to know the correct protocols and other things useful when riding. you are on point always. The only ones I listen to are you and Black Dragon. I appreciate you guys.

[@DemonsRow]

Much love trev

[@del_619]

This has always been a topic. When I grew up you never had anything with 13 on it. It wasn’t until I was 5 years in then navy when I learned about the 13 tattoo tradition where getting it inked would bring you good luck. That kinda where the Friday the 13th tattoo events rooted from besides the old story of wanting a cheap tattoo. The way you said it and the way the clubs use it makes sense to me too.

[@kahrhoshe]

I love your explanations of patches, MC life, and the fact that you accept EVERYONE. MC or independent. Mad respect brother. HOpe to meet you someday #GHOSTIN

[@DemonsRow]

You will brother much love

[@CapnDrift]

I'll be damned... this is the first time I've heard someone get it right. Man, I've been riding for forty years, there's no way I can tell you how I know what I do.

[@DemonsRow]

Much respect drift

[@landonjensen4731]

I have some friends that are in a support club of a 1% club, they wear the diamond 13. I’ve never asked them the meaning, because it’s none of my business. Lol.

[@DemonsRow]

Def

[@johnchotkowski655]

Same for me "I'm just a hang around man"

[@txbarker78]

Same here

[@Jerry-vg3uh]

Excellent video as always, Sose. Keep up the good work and keep doin' what you do.

[@DemonsRow]

Thank u jerry

[@MikeEllegood]

Been here since the start and it only keeps getting better. Stay safe and do what do on 2’s #GHOSTIN

[@SoseTheGhost]

Man i appreciate you for riding wit me

[@hobbitpsi]

I'm a former SAA for my old MC and originally when I was a Prospect, I was taught it was a support patch for our Dominant club in the territory which our club earned from our sponsor due to how much the founding members supported him and was always there for him, requested or not. After I got my officer position I learned the actual history of the patch, which is kind of sad that majority of bikers, even clubs don't know the origin. Just goes to show that there is a lot of information that has become twisted over the years in regards to origins.

[@DemonsRow]

Yes because everybodys worried about politics and backstabbing why would they aquire knowledge

[@robertharris669]

I was told about the square 13 and diamond 1% patches when I was 15 by a Hell Angel president that was a friend of my dad’s. He told me the square 13 was the original 1% patch which he wore on his right arm and below it was the diamond 1% patch. He would not go into detail other than he didn’t want to take off the square because he had to put in work for it. And he got the diamond 1% when he moved chapters and said he had to re-earn the diamond. I can’t verify how much of it was true and at what level he was at as president, could have been local to the area but rumor was all of Louisiana.

[@SoseTheGhost]

Thanks for sharing brother

[@richardhendrix7620]

5

[@Ness4]

Damn I feel honored. 🙏🏽. Thank you hermano! Looking forward to chopping it up a bit

[@DemonsRow]

Yes we def gonna make it work

[@mikefarmer4168]

It always great to hear some straight history on this subject. Glad to have seen and watched this video.. Thanks for the info brother

[@DemonsRow]

Much love mike

[@alexferia3323]

#GHOSTIN Thank you for all that you do. I had no clue what 13 meant. Now I do.

[@SoseTheGhost]

Def alex much love

[@ashryder3266]

This has been a busy week for videos, I appreciate your hard work with all this content, keep it up brother #Ghostin

[@SoseTheGhost]

Appreciate you ash i get a break till sunday live lol

[@ashryder3266]

@@SoseTheGhost my last night of work for a couple days too now. Catch you at church man, enjoy your days off

[@boogieb9]

I’ve always wondered what the 13 Standed for. You are the first one to educate me RESPECT fam. #GHOSTIN

[@DemonsRow]

Much respect #ghostin

[@donplumbbum593]

You putting me on to a whole different lifestyle big dog ... You already big dog I’m tuned in 👊🏾

[@DemonsRow]

Much love don

[@DavidSmith-gj3ut]

When I was a kid and, I'm almost 70 , we were told by a guy who rode with the old Iron Cross MC in South Florida that the 13 letter was M and it was for marijuana and and when I was a kid marijuana was a big deal. I hope I explained that the way I was told.

[@DemonsRow]

Yea def

[@addicted2legs100]

I’m almost 64 and I heard weed when I was 16 from a guy 19 years older than me

[@niccomalick9166]

There were 13 original outlaw racing clubs who were against the ama and those clubs all raced against one another and the winners won a trophy in the shape of a diamond with the 13 in it and became part of the" Diamond Club ". Check it out man just like your dude said he's right.

[@R3dbeard7.62]

Agreed. Do you have the list of the 13? I high key need it

[@R3dbeard7.62]

It’s my homework and I can’t find an accurate list

[@dondouglas2215]

Thank you. All I didn't know .but I do love what was taught to me very close but not exactly what I believe we are all different and that's why we stay close now 💪

[@DemonsRow]

Thats the truth don

[@dlioncoulthurst778]

Hoorah Bro, Good stuff as always, learning so much from you Bro....NUFF RESPECT!!!

[@DemonsRow]

Hoorah my brother always love

[@proudpatriot3491]

#ghostin. My uncle who is in a Vet's MC just told me it means they are Outlaws (not the club). He attends 1% events but he is real careful on what he says about them because he isn't a 1%er. Great info Sose, very interesting.

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you patriot

[@vision821k4]

@@DemonsRow Are you a 1 percenter?

[@hobbitpsi]

He doesn't have to be that careful. The Military MC's and Veteran MC's are still pretty respected among all the clubs considering the original founding members of the big clubs were Veterans themselves, and usually when the 1% club throws an event they expect all the other clubs to attend and show support.

[@proudpatriot3491]

@@hobbitpsi Yeah my Uncle did mention they go to a lot of the 1%er in the area events.

[@hobbitpsi]

@@proudpatriot3491 It's not even a bad thing. A lot of the events are usually fund raisers to help charities, or maybe a biker (in any club or just one they got word of) and their family have medical bills to be paid. Once you hang around or even patch into a club, you realize that it's not all the bad things the media claims the MC life is about. A huge majority is raising funds for something important.

[@pops_hd6962]

#GHOSTIN great history lesson about MC clubs who were developing their own style

[@SoseTheGhost]

Much love bill

[@pops_hd6962]

@@SoseTheGhost love & respect and thank you! Be safe Brother!

[@95civicguy]

Awsome video and a great history lesson. 13 always ment M for whatever you want it to stand for. Ive seen the old pics of the square 13 patch but you just dropped some real knowledge. #GHOSTIN

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you

[@knifeman-king]

Love your videos Sose, I love the history of the 1%er MC. I’m 48 years old and am confined to a wheelchair since birth but always loved motorcycles especially Harley Davidsons and always been fascinated with the 1% culture and your videos are very informative. Thank you

[@DemonsRow]

I got something in the works you can be part of stay tuned

[@knifeman-king]

@@DemonsRow awesome thanks bro

[@jasongrayrosecityproductio6120]

As always informative and on point! One of my favorite shows to whatch#DEAMONSROWTV

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you

[@moleather9038]

The way I see it , earn the patch and you will know what it means to your club , love the content even though you are on the other side of the planet. 🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@DemonsRow]

Much love paul glad you enjoy

[@alyssavincent4075]

Being a club with vests and patches I learn alot from you when I need to know how to go about approaching a situation we are a 3% style club but we know our look came from your culture and we don't cross certain lines ....no rockers diamond's or territory patches we stick to what we are a Patriot club ...we run a one piece patch and on our fronts we have our club name beside a Patriot club patch that explains what ans who we are and our role in the club and its chapter ...thank you for all the videos as it helps be teach my members what and what not to do ..we aren't in the mc culture but with wearing the vest comes questions which we get alot of but so far is been respectful and allowed

[@DemonsRow]

Im glad it helps much love

[@jamesmetzer1746]

You just thought me the meaning of it, that is why I love this channel. Learning something new. Respect sose. Like always #Ghostin

[@DemonsRow]

Much respect james

[@mr.noneofyourbusiness3234]

True history lesson right there! I was taught by my President. We rock a diamond13 that includes the word motorcycle. Although it could mean just about any M word as the 13th letter of the alphabet if the word wasnt there. History is amazing, retaining it after its taight is even more amazing...lol...Ya boys got some residual smoke damage SOSE. #Ghostin

[@SoseTheGhost]

Salute keene

[@johnbruner8440]

#GHOSTIN We always used it for the original anti-AMA, them morphed into marijane. If anyone ever asked I would usually tell em it meant M for mom. Or my favorite, I told em the whole Outlaw m/c movement was started by some dude named Melvine. He hated that name so we called him "diamond m". The patch was a tribute.

[@SoseTheGhost]

Salute john #Gho⚡tin

[@danewood2309]

Here in England in the late 50's early 60's my Father rode and raced a Matchless, and wore a flying jacket with a 'Diamond 13' on it, no other patch just that.... when I was Prospecting in the early 80's he told me the California Racing story as the Origin of the Diamond 13. Great to hear you state it on here

[@DemonsRow]

Its crazy how traditions carry

[@roadwarrior4813]

New to your Channel!!! Good to have all the information and you definitely give us that!!! # ghostin!!!

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin

[@cris-vv1pn]

Demons Row gives the truth about the diamond patch great vid dude # Ghosting UK

[@SoseTheGhost]

Appreciate you

[@sololobo9994]

#ghostin always look forward to these lately

[@SoseTheGhost]

Im glad you enjoy

[@Loneranger670]

Not long now and you will be 100k subs - keep going 👊🏻 Respect

[@DemonsRow]

Yes lance

[@williams122bw]

I researched it myself and came across the same definition. I confirmed it with a few diamond club members. It's the only definition that I knew it to have. ML&R to all the diamond clubs and their respective meanings for it.

[@DemonsRow]

Much respect

[@iremainproductions4827]

I was always taught that it was for the 13th letter M meaning Mother... your club is your mother and you will always honor her! but to each is own...... as always man .. thank you for doing what you do.

[@DemonsRow]

Clubs will have there own meanings but this is the origins

[@unoefxz]

Mother, meaning mother club... But a square patch. Worn by national officers. You are on the right track.

[@mikedelauter904]

#GHOSTIN With gas crap goin' on, and good weather comin', gonna be lottsa Bikes out, be careful out there (Y)

[@SoseTheGhost]

Ride safe

[@mikedelauter904]

Usually, LOL

[@TheChicagoParanormal]

Respect to DemonsRow , thanks for sharing the history of the diamond 13 , my club uses the Spade 13

[@DemonsRow]

Nice theres more to the 13 but i didnt want to speak on prison politics

[@spyder-jc5bc]

#ghostin I've learned so much from this show. Keep up the great work my man

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin thank u

[@jeroldjorgensen5019]

This is the first time I've heard about the 13 Dimond patch

[@shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085]

Really?

[@SoseTheGhost]

Yea alot of people dont

[@SIN-oz1kx]

More common then you think.

[@shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085]

@@SoseTheGhost then he’s at the right place to get informed. Sose your info is so fucking real. And universal. Thanks for informing the uneducated, and reeducation and conformation to the known.

[@hobbitpsi]

Bet now when you see clubs roll by you'll see it clear as day though.

[@sswcustomsewing4276]

Haha the guy who taught me about the number 13 with motorcycles over 20+ years ago said it was just a way to confuse people or shock people. He was too old to be a hippie yet too young to be a beatnik a great man he was. He said 13 can mean M for motorcycle and was a old way of saying you like bikes or that you are independent. He also said the group of friends he rode with did the kissing and it was just their way of shocking the squares saying we want to do our thing, not be hassled, not cause problems, and have fun riding. He said 13 meant whatever you want it to mean. Kinda like FTW that means Forever Two Wheels. He taught me many years ago no diamonds or ink unless you take the step and are willing to put in the work to earn them with a club. Honestly most of what you talk about in your videos is just good old fashioned common sense, etiquette, and respect for other people explained in your own words and I dig that. Thank you.

[@DemonsRow]

Ive had oldtimers to me misinfo many times

[@sswcustomsewing4276]

@@DemonsRow Sadly I have had a few old timers give myself along with other people misinformation as well. I enjoy your channel because you focus on education, safety, and helpful topics. Keep up the good work and have a great day.

[@BigHeadPatReviews]

Reasons like this… dropping knowledge and jems! I learn a lot from you. Feel like we family! Lol

[@DemonsRow]

Def a community and a family

[@davef4800]

I've seen while locked up the Dimond 13 1/2. Which was told to stand for 12 jurors 1 judge and a 1/2 ass chance. 🤙🏽😎🤙🏽

[@SoseTheGhost]

👊👊👊

[@waynehager4228]

I learned about the diamond 13 as a kid when the 1% patch was first coming to be more common. My Uncles rocked the 13. They were all Florida Outlaws MC.

[@DemonsRow]

Some history there much respect

[@waynehager4228]

Respect returned. You're doing good work here.

[@williamdefronzo1657]

#GHOSTIN Wow! One of my favorite eps. I love learning things! I learned sumpin new today! When I was young in the 70's my Opa! Told me that the 13 in a square,Diamond or 13! Represented that you were a Biker! It represented M for Motorcycle! He told me that F.T.W wasn't Funk The World but Forever Two Wheel! Later in the late 70's I was told by some Bikers that the 13 was for Marijuana and FTW stood for Forever together where ever! So TY! @SoseGhost & @Demonsrow for the schooling! Be safe & Stay healthy! Much L& R! 🤘 #BUTTECOUNTY #NORTHERNCALIFORNIA @WilliamDeFronzo

[@DemonsRow]

Much love my brother thats why we here

[@williamdefronzo1657]

@@DemonsRow know what you do is RIGHT! It pleases the All Mighty! Many Blessings!🙏🤘

[@michaelwarshaw7325]

#GHOSTIN #CALIFORNIA #JUSTAVETERANWITHABIKE The Diamond 13 patch is well known to Trials, Scramblers, Hillclimbers, Enduro riders, and Speedway and Flat Track racers in Southern California. Initially it signified the top 13 of the Outlaw Racers Association sanctioning clubs. The outlaw (racing) clubs formed to break the stranglehold the AMA had on racing, and also promoted safety (no board tracks). Later it was used as a symbol for privateer racing teams (teams without major sponsorship or backing). competing on the pro circuit. I wore one racing enduros and scrambles, and that's where I learned about the meaning. When I see the patch on a 1% club cut (at least here in SoCal) you can be reasonably sure he's a racer, or was, and is keeping alive the memory of those original outlaws.

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin well said

[@skyjac92]

Excellent info, Sose! Per your request, I was taught this by a 1%er out of California before he passed. GBNF. #ghostin

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin

[@grgygantz6760]

#Ghostin from Port Orange. Been out ridding not hiding. Racked up about 500 miles in two weekends . All back roads.

[@scoutsaresilentdeath8775]

Damn, my cousin lives in Port Orange. I'm considering moving down there this year. How's the riding areas?

[@SoseTheGhost]

Nice get it bro

[@calvaryridersmotorcyclemin7068]

Im very supportive of the "unification and harmony" theme of this channel ... Keep up the great work 🎉

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you

[@bignsexy9]

#GHOSTIN That’s exactly how it was explained to me in 1989. Thanks for keeping us all educated, ML.

[@DemonsRow]

Much love #Gho⚡tin

[@tylerschafer319]

#Ghostin! Keep on educating! You’re doing a great job with this stuff!!!

[@DemonsRow]

#ghostin thank u

[@myvidss]

Hello Sose, new subscriber here and i really love your channel. I thought the diamond 13 stemmed from the Hells Angels bomber crew from ww2 that rode their bikes together when not on a mission and thought that was the beginning of the Hells Angels MC.

[@DemonsRow]

Thank you

[@keithhampton9700]

Old Outlaw Biker told me it stood for M . Meaning marijuana.

[@YogisCycleService]

Love old skool history. Important to know where the roots came from.

[@DemonsRow]

Much love

[@bkb0859]

Seen the diamond 13 patch, but never knew what it meant, I do now, thanks Brother.

[@DemonsRow]

Yw brother

[@williamshawcowboy3541]

Right on sose that's what I was taught by my family and my ol man ( Father ) and this is what I tell everyone that wants to know , however to gain that knowledge we have to know one another close !!!!!

[@DemonsRow]

Yes def

[@LauraLopez-il3iv]

Thanks for sharing the info, had no idea!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@DemonsRow]

Much love laura

[@mikedurrant1496]

#Ghostin,Hey Sose hope you are well sitting on two's. I learned about the 13 years ago saying it was the original 13 members I can't remember witch club it was that explained it. Keep it coming, stay safe ride safe, much love and respect, peace out from BC Canada.

[@SoseTheGhost]

Much love mike

[@garynunn1904]

#Ghostin in OKC. I watch all your videos. Lots of awesome info on MC clubs.

[@SoseTheGhost]

Thanks gary i appreciate you

[@LAKingsJeff]

Years ago my uncle told me it was the OG 1%er patch 🤘#ghostin on 2s in North Idaho. MLHR bro

[@DemonsRow]

Your uncle was right 🤘🤘

[@mjm4967]

First explanation I’ve heard. I like the history lesson about breaking away from the AMA. Those who modified bikes in the early days were banned from racing in AMA events is my understanding

[@DemonsRow]

I would like to dip more into history

[@danchavez6381]

Thank you again Sose for spreading the knowledge. #GHOSTIN

[@DemonsRow]

Much love dan #ghostin

[@dillonglaze9709]

It’s funny seeing these pop up clubs with ama patch and a Dimond

[@riccotter4437]

Hey man, I love ya sho! Ur a top shelf speaker and u sho RESPECT on all the subject matter. I’ve haven’t heard u speak nothing but the truth. And especially on this particular post. I had forgotten about the whole “ama’ split thing .. kinda. Thanks for reminding me my brother. Be kool & be safe ✌️

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you Ric truly

[@69Busa08Nova]

#ghostin Weather is finally staying warm, Friggen lovin it. Good vid as usual.

[@DemonsRow]

In ct its on and off

[@69Busa08Nova]

Same in ri but at least it’s getting warmer. Should be a good summer man.

[@MrFameone206]

That's interesting I also just associated with support clubs. Never even thought about the meaning of was more than a support patch

[@DemonsRow]

Yes def supports wear it

[@samoros8540]

Love your content man liked and subscribed 👍

[@DemonsRow]

Thanks sam

[@Lucky-yr8jj]

Probably the first time I've heard this spoken about since I was told the meaning. Sose, much respect for the real facts.

[@DemonsRow]

Much respect lucky

[@danthomas663]

Good stuff. I’ve heard a lot so it’s good to know original facts.

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you

[@txbarker78]

New to the scene, started to hang around and learn and see what I can offer to MC and what MC can offer me. All US Marines so there's that initial bond, plus I dont feel as stupid asking questions, because I feel not asking the questions IS being stupid, and just like active duty being the FNG you need to ask questions when need be other than that keep eyes and ears open and your mouth shut. As for you brother thanks for doing this channel. In this new age of international interconnectedness and the world's information at our fingertips there's alot of BS floating about and lots of people who don't know shit. Hard to sift through the shit sometimes but you're legit cracking eggs of knowledge on us independents and hang arounds. So thanks again. I dont know if ill ever patch in but I have a better understanding of what im getting into, how to be respectful to fellow bikers, and how to not step on anyone's dick and get in trouble. Last thing I want or need is trouble, first thing I want is a safe healthy family, and some brothers to bond with.

[@DemonsRow]

Enjoy the ride

[@templarkidd]

Ok so growin up in northern California, i started AMA racing motorcycles in the 80s as a kid. I remember asking the older racers what the diamond 13 patch was on some of the guys leathers meant, as most of them were out of town racers or guys i heard of from other states. They told me it was a patch for racers that don't follow the rules. Almost like a bad boy patch. And all the HA guys that went to the races to watch wore the same patch. I remember all the "fast kids" rocked a diamond 13 sticker on the front plate! 😂

[@ItzBreckHoe]

I'm saving up for my first bike. I used to ride on my dad's bike but I haven't been on one since he passed. Oklahoma doesn't have a big motorcycle community as far as I know lol. The videos are badass tho I'm learning a lot

[@DemonsRow]

My brother mike pro lids is out there theres a scene out there

[@rorymcilvenny1568]

I was born and raised in Ireland 🇮🇪, came to East L.A in the early 80's. After a few ass beatings, some given some taken it became my home, I was always taught by O.G Veteranos that the 13 stood for California (Sur Cal) the 13th State in the Union.

[@DemonsRow]

Yea theres alot of meanings

[@jeffrobbins179]

None of what u said adds up Rory

[@five_cogs369]

Been watching for a long time, and as always you’re hitting us with knowledge. I knew nothing about the culture prior to watching, appreciate it Sose! #GHO⚡️TIN

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you henney

[@MikeTyla]

13 can mean alot of things. And today is now the 13th and it's my birthday! So 13 always been a lucky number for me! Stay safe out there and keep shiny side up! #Ghostin

[@DemonsRow]

Happy bday 🍻🍻

[@bobbyz2886]

Rubber side down 🤙

[@scoutsaresilentdeath8775]

# GHOSTIN from Missouri. Love your channel bro and getting me a bandanna for Father's Day

[@SoseTheGhost]

Appreciate you brother

[@davepickard4218]

#ghostin in Muskegon mi. Sitting on 3 ridin free. Love your videos. Very informative Also love your mummra action figure. I had it when I was a young boy. Keep doing what you do. Thanks. Bigg dogg

[@DemonsRow]

Much love brother thank you

[@stevenfoust1979]

Never knew what it meant, Thanks for the straight truth, Love your show

[@DemonsRow]

Appreciate you steve

[@Baltuc_Racing]

#Ghostin Very cool , love learning new stuff 👍 Thx for schooling this old dog 🤘

[@DemonsRow]

Much love tuck

[@hookdog8640]

You would be correct about the diamond 13 meaning. When I was growing in Southern california ama racing that was well known. Originally the diamond patch comes from military and adopted into motorcycle culture sense most mc riders came out of the military. Great job sose keep rockin

[@DemonsRow]

Much love hook

[@grouchyoleguy]

Another great video ...Ole school H.A. member taught me the true meaning of the 13 diamond patch

[@DemonsRow]

Much love

[@brendanmahoney8550]

#GHOSTIN Well said! Keep the videos coming!We appreciate you!

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin thank you

[@patri0tiii766]

Just learned the origins from you!🤘🏻

[@DemonsRow]

🤘🤘🤘much love

[@jimmymclucas6370]

So many people confuse these historical facts this is true history it’s big deal But that just shows that people don’t go back to the start and get the factual answer Thanks for keeping the record straight !

[@DemonsRow]

Yea i hate that jimmy

[@skysdalimit921]

#Ghostin Keep dropping jewels bro! And definitely shout to Ness, great dude, knowledgeable in so many ways

[@DemonsRow]

Yea ness my guy solid

[@skysdalimit921]

@@DemonsRow facts, real from day 1 too

[@Noone765]

#Gostin - The Diamond 13 patch was explained to me by a patched member of Hell’s Angels who lived at the end of the street I lived on in Santa Monica CA, and it was the precursor to Diamond 1% patch. I never argued with him, he was a great neighbor and excellent Harley mechanic. For a case of beer and parts he would repair my bike. Love to my brother.

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin

[@prb413]

#GHOSTIN Keeping it REAL as Usual. Thanks Bro

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin appreciate you

[@sgttuff13]

#GHOSTIN...…..MAD RESPECT FOR KEEPING IT REAL AND EDUCATING BROTHA.

[@DemonsRow]

#Gho⚡tin much respect