Diamond DA62, very steep approach to St. Moritz (LSZS) Airport

Crossing Albula-Pass at 9000ft and descenting 3400 ft steeply within one and a half minutes direct to RWY 21 at Samedan Airport. Descent rate on final about 3000ft/min. Watch it from the outside: • Diamond DA62, spectacu... Pilot: Markus Riedel

[@giorgiokolaj2192]

Awesome piloting skills, Wolfgang. Thank you for taking us along such a visually stunning flight. Greetings from New York City.

[@wolfgangkarner]

Thanks Giorgio! It was our last flight before the Covid-lockdown in Germany. You went throug horribe times. Hope you stay healthy - and keep on wearing masks! Best regards from Munich.

[@saminaneen]

@@wolfgangkarner Wear 5 face diapers, and stay 666 feet, from any normal person.

[@riverbankfisher]

The polished camera work is only exceeded by the smooth hand on the controls. Superb footage sir, and my compliments to the pilot.

[@Flugabenteuer]

Was gibt‘s schöneres als mit einer Diamond in den schneebedeckten Alpen zu fliegen 😍

[@marshallweisberg5697]

The Diamond Da 42 & Da62 are 2 good looking aircraft. Their wingtip design is excellent for greater lift and smoothability in the air.

[@baejiaoflying9434]

Astonishing. I have speed brakes on a Bonanza and even with those I'd be cautious about doing that. Great flying.

[@wolfgangkarner]

... and you might have an engine shock cooling problem as well ... ;-) ... the DA62 concept really makes sense ... thx for your appreciation!

[@shamanic1]

I would have been thoroughly at-ease, as a Passenger, due to your cool, and skillful handling of the controls!

[@ryanp6999]

Too, many, commas

[@musoseven8218]

Lovely aeroplane, great location, nicely flown - thanks for sharing 👍😊

[@wolfgangkarner]

THX! Appreciate your comment!

[@marcoeland3405]

Der Flieger gehört wohl zu den schönsten GA-Flugzeugen.. Geiler Anflug... wie die mit dem Pitch halt eiskalt 110 Knoten hält ^^ Danke für das Video!

[@wolfgangkarner]

Vollkommen d'accord! Es fehlt nur die Druckkabine :-)

[@memepasmal77]

Excellent vidéo, with skilled pilot, that is airmanship at is best.

[@oluwafemitoyinbo3189]

Super Beautiful Scenery!

[@dutchygirl]

To me those surroundings look like you´re in some kind of James Bond movie. Awesome flying!

[@wolfgangkarner]

Yes it is really spectacular! I hope you could watch the ouside view aswell kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3SuiISQbKaWgck :-)

[@dutchygirl]

@@wolfgangkarner Thanks for the link, just saw the tailcam view (and liked it)! It's so beautiful to see more! The approach seems very, very complicated to me. I just can imagine flying like that. Overhere everything is just flat ;-)

[@dutchygirl]

@@wolfgangkarner I am now your 221th subscriber :-)

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@dutchygirl oh oh .. you missed the 222 ... would have been jackpot ... XO ...

[@dutchygirl]

@@wolfgangkarner Somehow I'll be first anyways ;-) I have 22 and had jackpot at 10. Haven't flown in 3 months now, so nothing spectaculair and flat to post anyways. I really like your aircraft and vicinity :-)

[@enjoy110]

Thanks For The 🛫 Beautiful ❣️

[@rudavalek]

Beautiful aircraft

[@peterlo5900]

Awesome clear video, very nice plane.

[@chriswinton]

absolutely BEAUTIFUL! Well done, sir

[@wolfgangkarner]

THANK YOU, CHRIS! Very kind ;-)

[@fredscribner3688]

Didnt understand a word they said but I thoroughly enjoyed that entire conversation. 😂

[@wolfgangkarner]

THX - appreciate your comment! Your absolutly right - everybody was absolutely suprised that an straight-in approach like this was possible ;-)

[@TimToussaint]

No word was spoken - sterile cockpit rules

[@alexchernavsky7717]

Oh wow, even in FlightSim I would have expected a go-around after getting on such a steep final :)

[@wolfgangkarner]

When I saw the runway from around 8500 ft I was sure we would not make it straight in for landing. But the drag from the two props on idle plus full landing configuration made it possible (up to 3000 ft/min descend rate!). An other factor of the DA62 is the water cooling of the Diesel engines - with an air cooled engine you would risc some shock-cooling damage aswell ...

[@scottycatman]

Sweet tail number! DIODE!

[@ABunchOfSpanners]

BUTTER landing sir! Great job.

[@notafanboy250]

I'm actually very surprised you can achieve that descent rate (3000 fpm) without gaining airspeed in any Diamond aircraft. They look so slippery. Beautiful scenery!

[@wolfgangkarner]

Diamonds really are very aerodynamic. Gear down and flaps in landing configuration obviously generate a lot of drag but I assume that the windmilling effect of the three blade props connected to the high compression Diesel engines made this very steep descend work.

[@MsDenver2]

Very good film and great aircraft 👍

[@asimuddin1032]

Very nice video

[@LieorDie24]

Ha the new FS 2020 really nice graphics lol

[@davido1953]

Engines don't fail me now!

[@carradean]

So GOOD!!

[@TvLokikanal]

Bravo

[@tayloryacht]

Nice work

[@franciscov.rodriguez8330]

Gracias!! Maravilloso contenido. wonderful pictures, beautiful experience. Thank you.

[@wolfgangkarner]

Thank you for your appreciation : )

[@mundlkalli4396]

Servaas Wolfi.....wie schnoell foart die Kistn? Sogn ma mit zwa Leit drin ??? Super video,liebe Gruesse aus Florida !!!!!!!

[@wolfgangkarner]

Servaas Mundl! Des mit der Geschwindigkeit ist ja in der Fliegerei seeehr relativ ;-) ... Das hängt ganz von der das Flugzeug umgebenden Luftdichte, der Flughöhe und vom Gegen- oder Rückenwind ab. Es gibt da noch weitere Einflussfaktoren. Also: die DA62 (ein Flieger aus Österreich by the way) darf maximal 205 Knoten (Indicated Airspeed) schnell fliegen - das sind 380 km/h in Meereshöhe. Diese 205 Knoten sind aber in der maximalen Flughöhe von 20.000 Fuß wegen der weniger dichten Luft sogar 532 km/h. Nur diese Geschwindigkeit können die Motoren wegen des Leistungsverlustes in größeren Höhen nicht liefern, es sei denn, man geht in den Sinkflug, dann darf man die Geschwindigkeit von 205 kts nicht überschreiten. Im normalen Reiseflug fliegt man in ca. 10.000 ft bei ca. 85% Leistung ungefähr mit 350 km/h plus minus Rücken- oder Gegenwind ...

[@mundlkalli4396]

@@wolfgangkarner Recht herzlichen dank fuer die prompte und ausfuehrliche Information und Erklaerung in Bezug auf Geschwindigkeiten und anscheinend viele Faktoren die ,die Geschwindigkeit in generellen auch verschieden sein kann. Again thank you for the nice reply. Very much appreciated.

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@mundlkalli4396 My pleasure, Mundl! Als Ösi in Bayern hat man beim Namen "Mundl" nur die allerbesten Assoziationen und einen Grinser im Gesicht - Karl Merkatz sei's gedankt ;-) ... Best regards nach Florida!

[@eitanfrankowitz6992]

More videos like this please!

[@Ozgrade3]

Is there any limitation on low power operations, noticed that for some time the power output was at 0%, so the props were driving the engine. On the DA62 forum there has been talk of gearbox issues with shavings being detected in the gearbox oil prompting a gearbox removal. Could 0% engine load with the prop driving the engine be cusing gear chatter and causing the gearbox issues?

[@wolfgangkarner]

The DA62 POH doesn't mention any limitation on low power operations. I am sure the governor, gearbox and engine components can easily handle the loads involved within the operation limis of the aircraft. All these issues are calculated and tested before certification ...

[@vicz5853]

What a beauty

[@FlyingTreg]

I've been there a lot with the Citation Excel/XLS. Was a lot of fun!

[@Hoop0u]

very smooth

[@KiranAgrawal]

Sir plz make more videos on da62

[@wolfgangkarner]

Hi Kiran! You can find quite a few more videos from this brand new aircraft on my channel ;-)

[@CalmWaters787]

Amazing video! Do you own this airplane? And what do you do for a living?

[@wolfgangkarner]

It is my son in law who owns the DA62. He is on the left seat and he runs a real estate business ;-) in Munich, Germany

[@AviatorGamer]

Butter nice landing

[@diegoparisaero]

Beautiful Video! Aircraft and Place are just amazing. It was a IFR flight right? I would be scared visual with that mountains nearby

[@wolfgangkarner]

No Diego, it was a VFR flight! This approach over the ALBULA-pass is one of two official VFR entering points to SAMADEN AIRPORT when arriving from northern directions. Because of an unexpected change of the landing direction to RWY 21 during the arrival, we were a bit fast and high above the pass so we had to get rid of speed and altitude within the last two minutes ...

[@memepasmal77]

@@wolfgangkarner is lowering the undercariage help?

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@memepasmal77 lowering the gear reduces speed of course. By setting the flaps only you would not be able to descent as steep as it was required here ...

[@Shrike200]

I don't know Diamond aircraft, having never flown any: But are the flap placarded speeds actually limiting? Because you're doing 110 KIAS during the approach with full flap showing as selected, which has '89 KIAS' next to the indicator....in the aircraft I've flown, speed written like this next to the flaps have all been their limit speeds. So I'm speaking under correction, not knowing how Diamond displays this.

[@wolfgangkarner]

You are absolutely right - the placarded speeds are a bit confusing. You are allowed to fly with 119 KIAS with fully extended flaps. With T/O setting you can go 136 KIAS as indicated. The "89 KIAS" is meant to be the Final Approach Speed (above 1999 kg) with flaps in LDG configuration (89 KIAS/Vref FLAPS LDG) ... :-)

[@Shrike200]

@@wolfgangkarner Thanks for the explanation - that's something new for me. Fantastic scenery, I can only dream of doing flights like this one!

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@Shrike200 These flights are rare to me also :) ... it's a matter of weather and opportunity as well ...

[@wolfgangkarner]

COORECTION of my earlier answer to your question! Both placarded speeds next to the flaps lever (flaps TO and flaps LDG) are applied correctly! Flaps LGD says 119 KIAS and not 89 KIAS. The digit "11" might look like a "8" from the distance or on the video. If you could look closer you would see the " II8" KIAS, which is the real maximum extention speed for the flaps LDG position ... Sorry for my former wrong reply!

[@ArthurW]

Awesome video. I was wondering why the rudder trim so big? Thanks a lot

[@wolfgangkarner]

THX Arthur! The size of the rudder trim helps to adjust a very precise setting during regular flight - but more important in case of an engine failure. The DA62 single engine performance is excellent ...

[@ArthurW]

Wolfgang Karner sorry for the misunderstanding, I meant to ask why so much rudder trim :)

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@ArthurW okay, it only looks like an enornous setting to the right because the trim knobs labeling is pretty crooked! You must check the red line within the white stripe above the knob to see the indication of the trim setting. You could better see it on one of my other videos during an IFR training. Go to 6:45 and you will know what I mean. Here the link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hITHfo2Ph9yYfKs

[@peterbassey9668]

No sterile cockpit there during that approach. Whew!!😅

[@gliderfs621]

Be really careful to rotors ! As I can see, it was a very wavy day to put out gliders.

[@berndl]

Businessjet Kennzeichen, die mit CS beginnen sind zu 95% Flugzeuge von NetJets (alle in Portugal zugelassen).

[@wolfgangkarner]

YESSSSS! Aber nur die mit dem "FRACTION" callsign, dann gibt's ja noch die "EXECJETS" mit N-Registrierung und die chinesische Variante, aber da weiß ich den callsign nicht mehr ... :)))

[@fusher88]

Hello, great video. Which airport did you depart from? I want to reproduce this route in a flight simulator.

[@wolfgangkarner]

We took off from Memmingen (EDJA) in Bavaria, heading southwest to GAMSA ´, XAMEX and then heading south 177°(DTK) in 8500ft for 26 nm, 090 DTK for 6 nm, 146 DTK for 5nm, then following the valley to the Albula Pass and approaching LSZS direct RWY21 .... :-))) you could follow the time laps on KZbin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipLLmaZuea2Yq6s

[@malthus101]

What was the jet to the left that the joked about?

[@wolfgangkarner]

you probably mean the Gulfstream G550 with the Maltese registration M-HERI ... she was called to be Musk's Gulfstream for fun, which it of course wasn't :-)

[@keithrome7953]

Das sphincter gutentite, ya? Awesome skills.

[@flaron352]

I thought the cockpit was a more quiet ride. Be pretty aggravating loudness on longer flights. Love this plane, loudest video I've seen so far.

[@TimToussaint]

Sure, with your money you can obviously buy much better. We admire you.

[@LeoGS400]

Fantastic scenery and fantastic airplane! What software on the tablet? Thank you.

[@wolfgangkarner]

it is GARMIN PILOT ;-)

[@markuskoarmani1364]

where did you load the ski?

[@wolfgangkarner]

Who wants to go skiing - as long as you can fly airplanes? ... XD ... I love skiing!

[@karllang8282]

full idle, 110 KIAS und 3`000 fpm produzieren wahrscheinlich negative torque aufs flywheel ! Einen weiten 360 zu fliegen wäre weniger spektakulär, jedoch Material schonender gewesen.

[@wolfgangkarner]

Interessante Überlegung - aber dann dürfte man ja auch bei Highspeed und durchschnittlicher Descend Rate nicht auf Full Idle gehen, da ist das negative Torque noch höher. Bin mir sicher, dass die belasteten Teile dafür ausgelegt sind ansonsten wäre davon im Handbuch etwas zu finden.

[@deborahchesser7375]

Maybe I’ll drop in with the ol C130

[@hammer-r]

Sehr schön. Tolle

[@wolfgangkarner]

gib's dir von außen -- kommt noch cooler ;-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3SuiISQbKaWgck

[@hammer-r]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

[@johnames6430]

what does swaying the plane side to side do?

[@wolfgangkarner]

You mean the right and left turn before touching down? It extends the approach distance and you can reduce more altitude without getting faster. If you would fly directly towards the runway you would have to descend steeply, you would become faster and this would extend your landing distance or it would make a landing impossible.

[@johnames6430]

@@wolfgangkarner thanks that's what I was thinking it extends the distance, I don't get the part of how it doesn't increase speed? I just did this same exact landing with the same plane in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020! Same approach as you and used the same technique. I went full flaps but it was really tough to get the plane to lose altitude in the sim.

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@johnames6430 Great - you flew the approach with the sim!!! Well - I didn't go into the details with this great tool yet, so I can't tell how exactly the specifics of the DA62 were modelled. I am thinking of things like the braking effect of the windmilling props with the highly compressed Diesel engines, etc ... But you see in reality it worked - to the big surprise of everybody on board. When you fly (steep) turns you always loose speed - if you don't want to do so you descend faster ... in this case a very helpful effect ...

[@johnames6430]

@@wolfgangkarner Yes! If you haven't checked out Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 it's amazing! I flew the exact approach in the exact same plane and even changed the weather to have snow cover 😁In the future they plan to add Virtual Reality support so you can wear a headset and look around the cockpit just like in real life. It's going to help a lot of pilots train. You can purchase a 30 day Trail of "Xbox Gamepass for PC" for $1 and play it right now.

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@johnames6430 THX for the information. I've downloaded the sim but didn't have time to try it - but I surely will ;-) ... Real flying isn't a too bad alternative :))

[@bighaasfly]

Okay. That was impressive. LOL

[@MAGApepe]

3:00 - 3000 yaaaaaaaa

[@wolfgangkarner]

3050 !!! :))))

[@MAGApepe]

@@wolfgangkarner oh my error,,, even better :)))

[@MAGApepe]

@@wolfgangkarner i posted on one of your other vids,, how can atc prohibited recording when the g1000 records it auto ,, they should know that and not even make such a rule ,, seems weird they dont want ppl recording what you can hear lol

[@MAGApepe]

beautiful,,, think i pass thou,,, dont like looking up at the tops while in a plane lol

[@PilotSwitzerland]

Wenn Deutsche in den Bergen fliegen, haha :D Nein nein nur Spass, jeder hat schon schlechte Anflüge gemacht. Trotzdem schönes Video :-)

[@wolfgangkarner]

Cooler Anflug - würd' ich sagen! Zugegeben, kein 3° Glideslope Approach aber die Descending-Performance der nagelneuen DA62 auszutesten ist durchaus sinnvoll und war zu keiner Sekunde unsafe ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3SuiISQbKaWgck

[@samsam-tt3bk]

Pretty but looks in efficient

[@WolfKarner]

Why?

[@wolfgangkarner]

???

[@attila1746]

Beautiful!! But, bad camera work......

[@wolfgangkarner]

... but you wouldn't be able to see it without my bad camera work ;-)

[@ericsyu1982]

太帅了

[@wolfgangkarner]

THANK YOU :)

[@ericsyu1982]

Where is that place? So beatiful, i really hope i can be there several years later 😁 and i am preparing the private pilot training in beijing nowadays, in da20, haha

[@wolfgangkarner]

@@ericsyu1982 It is the highest European Airport, located in Switzerland, very close to the famous skiing village of St. Moritz. You can have a better view of the scenery from the ouside of the aircraft kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3SuiISQbKaWgck ... Good luck for your PPL and keep on training - it is really worth it!

[@amenchoudhury8036]

Me training on my PA38 👁👄👁

[@Ivanov.L]

I heard a Jeff Bezos joke at the end LOL! What's the punchline?

[@johnames6430]

They were looking at the expensive business jet and saying it's probably Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk (I think)

[@hmabboud]

I got dizzy. Too much movement!

[@wolfgangkarner]

It was pretty shaky due to heavy turbulence over the pass ;-)

[@minecraftshrek416]

Me who thought this was msfs

[@toku3240]

カメラマン下手過ぎ👇

[@wolfgangkarner]

This is not a Hollywood movie ;-)

[@pipomorais1]

Bad record

[@pipomorais1]

Bad record