Diamond Waterstones? Quick talk.

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Big Brown Bear

Big Brown Bear

Күн бұрын

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@Wolf_K
@Wolf_K 6 жыл бұрын
FYI for those interested in these: If you look for an online Japanese domestic market store (search in Japanese), and manage to communicate with them, you can get these for almost half the cost as Japanese ebay sellers. The same goes for all waterstones. Edit: The same goes for many things really; I’ve done this before with musical instrument equipment as well as waterstones. It takes time and energy to strike gold but it’s worth it.
@howardgreen9718
@howardgreen9718 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks triple B, that’s a great explanation I never really understood the purpose of the high grit Dimond water stones
@larryseibold4287
@larryseibold4287 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. straight talk, good honest information on the differences.
@DutchBushcraftKnives
@DutchBushcraftKnives 7 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing bark river emulsion. How do like those? I really needed this video.. and now i really need these stones... How about 800 grit + 3000 grit and finish it off with a 5k shapton ha no kuromaku / chosera to polish it. These naniwa diamond stones really take away what I don't like from the traditional diamond plates. Cost and performance seldom increase on par sadly. Thanks for the video sensei
@sour7786
@sour7786 7 жыл бұрын
I think Ken cbn is better
@mohdzaudikhasni8829
@mohdzaudikhasni8829 6 жыл бұрын
Japanese stone are suck. Brick and river stone the best sharpening when outdoor, indoor just use sandpaper 150# to 7k if you can found more 10k ,20k or 30k you are lucky and never ever take your cost of extra money.. Japanese stone will wave and take long time to sharpened your knives.
@valebliz
@valebliz 5 жыл бұрын
@@mohdzaudikhasni8829 rofl
@CNYKnifeNerd
@CNYKnifeNerd 4 жыл бұрын
@@valebliz Hes a douche, but hes right about sandpaper.
@robertmorano2372
@robertmorano2372 5 жыл бұрын
Those venev stones are now over $100 per stone and they have discontinued the 400/800. If you want those 2 specific grits, you have to buy 2 stones now.
@Crazyknives
@Crazyknives 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Morano nop, I just got those grits in one stone two weeks ago
@Resolute900
@Resolute900 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff..love all your videos. You've had this stone for some time...can u shed some light on the life span on one of these stones with regular use?
@goose4342
@goose4342 6 жыл бұрын
Love that cutting board.
@jakewolf079
@jakewolf079 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah.....I think I will wait until this diamond waterstone technology gets cheaper.
@raffieb762
@raffieb762 Жыл бұрын
Use soap and water in a spray bottle as you sharpen, will not load up, i use palmolive degreaser dish soap
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 7 жыл бұрын
Bro you motivate me to start chopping wood. I'm 26. I have two Colin's, an unnamed best from the 1930's, an American style hatchet from Germany in the 1880s, estwing 26 inch axe, estwing fireside companion, and my spotz monster maul. Bought it yesterday. I also lift. I know about Alan thrall
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 7 жыл бұрын
I'm in CT. I have an vintage axe plug. I might be able to help you out.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 7 жыл бұрын
non yobussiness good job man, that's badass
@danieleraut4510
@danieleraut4510 7 жыл бұрын
Great video👍👍
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 7 жыл бұрын
Daniel Eraut thanks brother
@knownasbeandon8770
@knownasbeandon8770 Жыл бұрын
BBB I'm interested in getting a Naniwa daimond whetstone I'm thinking 1000 grit, will this stone sharpen maxamet?
@hooliganAvail
@hooliganAvail 4 жыл бұрын
Knowing what you know now . Could you recommend a 3 stone set up that will re profile to a clean finish?
@horriblebreast
@horriblebreast 7 жыл бұрын
awesome to see a vid on these diamond stones! thank you for all the great info, i was kinda curious about them. i bet it was a bit of a sacrifice to cover the initial cost of those stones but i'm sure you had some fun testing them out! thanks for the upload
@Deoffred
@Deoffred 7 ай бұрын
I am looking for some stones for sharpening s110v, maxamet and s90v, i want to get 3 or 4 stones but i canot afford these 200$ per stone. Any advice?
@verdigrissirgidrev4152
@verdigrissirgidrev4152 4 жыл бұрын
diamonds in resin - makes me wonder how hard it would be to DIY cast a stone. probably way cheaper.
@hamedizzy5137
@hamedizzy5137 2 жыл бұрын
Mixing soap should help negate the build up.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mitigate it though otherwise I would be doing that it's just something that's fundamental to resin bonding
@l26wang
@l26wang 7 жыл бұрын
Would an eraser work to deglaze the stone, the way it works on ceramic?
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried chienese diamond plates ? You would be amazed, I felt better than my DMT stone. 20$ for a double sided diamond stainless plate ,that's a bargain.
@user-un5my5bw4j
@user-un5my5bw4j Жыл бұрын
Chinese? As professional sharpeners we use stones from Japan not China. Even if China made something good most of us would not buy it because we dont contribute to countries who are trying to destroy ours. Also DMT makes plates not stones. Just stainless plates with a thin layer of industrial diamonds sprinkled over adhesive. They do not last very long at all. Especially their fine, extra fine, and extra extra fine grit. Its a rip off
@thomasoikonomou4514
@thomasoikonomou4514 3 жыл бұрын
how many knives can i sharpen on a stone with 1000 grit approximately how many knives ????
@arn6376
@arn6376 4 жыл бұрын
Triple B did you have to flatten or lap the Venev stones before using them?
@sour7786
@sour7786 7 жыл бұрын
Can you help me geek out with a vid of maxamet vs s110v. PLEASE
@jl9752
@jl9752 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video, it was very informative. I've noticed on one of your maxamet sharpening videos that you skipped the 3000 grit. Assuming the toothier edge coming out of 800 plus stropping on diamond/cbn is more to your liking. If so, when do you use the 3000 grit (i.e. when is it a good thing to have in your arsenal?) would greatly appreciate your input. Thank you!
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 6 жыл бұрын
just depends on the user, the higher the polish the more precision, the less endurance. Also High polish requires more up keep. 800 grit to a 1 um strop is the best compromise, but I still enjoy the beauty of the 3k and the laser like precision, just depends on the steel, task at hand and the user.
@gabrielsturdevant9700
@gabrielsturdevant9700 7 жыл бұрын
you've done all that and i use a $30 sharpener from home depot. good thing about heap knives is you can use cheap stones
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 7 жыл бұрын
gabriel Sturdevant meh, I drive a Ford escort, I see some dudes waste there money on expensive cars, to each their own, we all invest money into what we care about. No one needs anything. but If you wanted to know what's out there at the top of the line. here is a video for what ever it's worth hahaha
@gabrielsturdevant9700
@gabrielsturdevant9700 7 жыл бұрын
wasnt saying it isnt justified. my stones are pretty crappy. i'd love some quality stones. my best sharpening tool i have is my belt. i put polishing compound on it so now i have a really convenient strop
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 7 жыл бұрын
gabriel Sturdevant Nice
@snowwalker9999
@snowwalker9999 5 жыл бұрын
How long do Naniwa diamond stones last? For both knives and woodworking blades?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 5 жыл бұрын
they will outlive you
@l26wang
@l26wang 7 жыл бұрын
Have you tried using oil on these diamond resin stones? The swarf might float easier on oil.
@EDCwithAaron
@EDCwithAaron 5 жыл бұрын
Where'd you get that cutting board? Freaking gorgeous. I want an end grain cutting board but having trouble finding a decent one that isnt $700
@terrybodenhorn3508
@terrybodenhorn3508 5 жыл бұрын
You may have already seen this, but if not, take a look at larchwoodcanada.com. Beautiful and excellent end-grain cutting boards. Not cheap, but not outrageous either.
@capolot
@capolot 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like venev is the better value since they have dual grit sides.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely, but the finish it's not just consistent
@capolot
@capolot 3 жыл бұрын
@@FearNoSteel awesome content btw
@jownbey
@jownbey 4 жыл бұрын
Would you count nitride steels (vanax) as “diamond necessary”?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, yes, I felt the edge was crisper on Vanax with diamond/ cbn abrasive, those Vanadium Nitrides are very hard, Chromium NItrides like in LC200N are softer and don't need diamond.
@yeaman992
@yeaman992 7 жыл бұрын
Where do you think the best place to get the Naniwa diamond stones is from? Between high hardness ZDP, S110v and Maxamet I could definitely use one. I was going to get a DMT diamond stone, at this point which do you prefer?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 7 жыл бұрын
Herb Toker after months of use, I prefer these, since I get the Polish and performance I like. the DMT stones don't Polish good and leave a more aggressive edge. I like precision edges that push cut and leave cleaner cuts. just preferences. These stones are not for everyone they don't reduce the skill needed to sharpen but in the right hands they can give you the results you might be looking for.
@yeaman992
@yeaman992 7 жыл бұрын
Big Brown Guy Yep that was my deal with the DMTs, not as good polish. These stones really are a happy medium.
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 7 жыл бұрын
Herb Toker yeah, I think when word gets out about the Gritomatic Venev stuff it will be rad
@bp-hx9ts
@bp-hx9ts 6 жыл бұрын
Herb Toker best place I found is japan woodworker they have the 800 for 99 usd
@glytch5
@glytch5 6 жыл бұрын
and he didn't sharpen on them...
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 6 жыл бұрын
lol, what? you want a three hour video? just go to the next vid
@glytch5
@glytch5 6 жыл бұрын
nope
@gunny4029
@gunny4029 5 жыл бұрын
aree you saying he just polished an already sharp edge, who knows, he did say no need to create a bur, never heard that in 30 years of colecting and sharpening. if the knife is dull the only way to assure you are hitting the apex is by creating a burr , but the russian stone does sound good. i am astounded that the diamond infused stone created such a polished edge. . I have a collection af nainawa, chosera and some ceramic shaptons. the rough grit white shapton is a waste, money in the toilet, my 600 does better,
@CGoody564
@CGoody564 5 жыл бұрын
@@glytch5 you complain he didn't sharpen in this video, but refuse to watch the video where he does so? You're a moron who just wants something to complain about. Good for you.
@sour7786
@sour7786 7 жыл бұрын
Lol they think your confused
@bogunnarsson6661
@bogunnarsson6661 6 жыл бұрын
What about atoma?
@FearNoSteel
@FearNoSteel 6 жыл бұрын
its a plate coated with diamonds, what about it? I use it to flatten stones with the 140 grit, the 1200 grit was lame, finished wayyyyy coarser, left a chewed up edge compared to a bonded stone
@Wolf_K
@Wolf_K 6 жыл бұрын
Big Brown Bear Same experience with it, I don’t like the Atoma 1200 edge at all. Plus is sounds like a vinyl with its zippy sound. Haha Thinking about getting these Naniwa diamond stones for the higher grits. Your videos are persuasive for me. ;)
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