Dice Control: Should I Pay For Dice Control Lessons

[@mudslidemac9613]

All true advice sir. As a self taught shooter that only plays recreational craps I can confirm that once I took some coaching classes and spent quality one on one time with a pro it all started to click. Not to mention what I picked up from your videos. Thanks for your help. All the best.

[@koganinja777]

Thanks Sir!

[@rezidentbivrip]

I agree it helps to have a coach, but it's not impossible to be skilled without paying someone

[@koganinja777]

For casual players 1 out 100 will be successful without proper training with a coach or good video course. Casual playing 2-3 times a month. For advantage players who play 5 times a week, 1 out of 700 will be successful without a mentor or coach. I'm in casinos 3-5 days a week I see the results, I see who is trained properly and who is not. I see the winners and ALL the losers!!!

[@rezidentbivrip]

@@koganinja777 I would argue that practice & analysis is as important as a teacher. I do agree that a teacher could greatly increase the speed and ease with which you get a good throw. But I don't think it's the only way. That's all I'm saying. I love you videos and if I had disposable income I'd join you for in person courses. But until then, I have to believe I can get good though practice, video observation of myself, and adjustments.

[@koganinja777]

@@rezidentbivrip Let me be very CLEAR in what I'm saying!!! I never said you can't win money in the casino being self-taught. If that was the case I would not be selling my Kick-Ass course. If you're casually playing 2-3 times a month what I call (Weekend Warriors) being self-taught you will have wins barring you put in the time, 6-9 months of everyday of practice? And also practicing right with correct techniques, AKA My Kick-Ass Course, but the reality is most people do not put honest proper expectations on themselves, most lie to themselves and tell themselves their good and ready when in reality they are far from it. For most players, this casual play is enough for them and my Kick-Ass course works perfectly for that. NOW what I'm talking about is Advantage Playing meaning you are playing 3-5 times a week because it is your first income and your livelihood depends on it or you're using it to create a second income. And to be an Advantage Player you need a Mentor PERIOD, there is no way around it !!! You can not expect to be on the winning side of the spectrum without a mentor and a proper technique and unfortunately, the PARR technique does not hold up, it falls apart of over the long run with different table conditions AND UNBALANCED DICE! What you need to understand is my main focus is teaching students to become Advantage Players NOT Weekend Warriors, teaching Advantage Players is my main demographic. Now my Shinobi Master Level Course which I call it very tongue and cheek is really my Advanced Level Dice Control Material, it is an advanced level throw which is far superior to the PARR Throw and anything being taught in books or on the internet or video courses. It is this technique and I'm trying to get the world to know and to learn but unfortunately being an advantaged player is a very, very small niche and most people will not take the time or the expense to get good with my technique. I taught the basics of my Shinobi Throw to a 10-year ex-GTC student who never had an extraordinary day the whole 10 years using the GTC/PARR technique. Once I showed him the basics of my technique three weeks later he went out and won over 25K using my throw. And please understand I'm not mad, pissed off or angry at you in any way shape fashion or form I'm just trying to tell you that there is a HUGE difference from what I teach in my Shinobi Master Level course versus what other people are teaching on the Internet and weekend seminars and if you expect to be on the winning side of the spectrum being an advantage player you have to have a mentor! There's no way around, it is what it is! If you look at all the great baseball players they all have coaches, all the great athletes they all have coaches. Thanx Koganinja

[@rezidentbivrip]

@@koganinja777 I understand now and that makes a lot of sense

[@rubenzuniga9586]

I watch many video on dice control and 2hr to 4hr a day I practice. I use 5/4 5/4 set and I also practice on my 3 finger grip,throw and landing zone. I'm still learning and haven't master it, but 2 night ago I went to the casino for the second time. First attempt 3 roll and 7 out but I adjust a few things. 2nd attempt 19th roll then 7 out. 3rd attempt 39th rolls then I 7 out. What are the odd's of that happening or was it luck, not sure. I may find a coach down the line to be on the safe side. You gave me a lot of great tips I've followed and used on the crap table. Thanks so much for the help brotha.

[@koganinja777]

No it was not luck. I can't give you odds because I don't know what your throw looks like or how good it is?

[@icecity51o]

Its alot of truth in what you say but you are not taking in fact how hard you train yourself you get results and you have to no how to train and how serious you push yourself and if you cant getting a trainer is not a bad idea i have thought about it

[@koganinja777]

You have to train like your life depends on it WITH THE CORRECT TECHNIQUE!

[@icecity51o]

@@koganinja777 true

[@rezidentbivrip]

Also, by your own logic, it's not worth buying your online instructional videos, unless you offer an option to critique people's throws via video conferencing or something

[@koganinja777]

Only one video course I offer deals with On-Axis throwing and its a great beginner to intermediate level course using the PARR Throw. The material I have in it on throwing is as good if not better than most 3-Day courses other schools charge for over 1k. And Yes I offer for free for the life of the course, free throw video criticizes of my students so they will get the shot down and win in the casinos. So by my logic, it's correct and worth buying. It a great option for those who can't train with me in person for whatever reason.

[@bakermotosports]

Does your course give betting examples?

[@koganinja777]

Yes