Dice Setting for Beginners - Dice Setting #1

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[@pair-a-dicecraps8618]

If you are in Las Vegas and are into Dice Influencing I highly recommend a one-on-one with Ronnie at Casino Quest. I had a great 1 hour session and took away a page of notes that I believe will significantly improve my consistency. Ronnie is very knowledgeable and is a great teacher. One example of a change I have noticed is the number of chips on my throwing station I use to count my rolls. For more than a year I have had about 10 chips on it and I have never used them all before a 7. Yesterday I had to go get more chips twice and ended up with a 25 roll. On a stop at Red Rock the day after my session I was able to make much more than the session cost, thank you Ronnie and Casino Quest!

[@pair-a-dicecraps8618]

@ I haven't checked the prices since I had my session but at the time it was $75 for one hour. There was a lot of information to process in that hour and I felt it was a bargin. I may do a two hour session with Howard Rock n Roller, he is double that.

[@Troy_Audi0]

I was playing at Ellis Island and someone told me about classes after I had a 20 hit roll. I gotta check it out and learn more. I feel it’s like playing pool and knowing how to hit the ball and all of that.

[@pair-a-dicecraps8618]

@@Troy_Audi0 Ronnie is a good teacher, you will get some good foundational dice influence info from him. Get the Roll Tracker spreadsheet from Heavy's site and practice, practice, practice. PADC

[@cindysmith7929]

Ronnie was an awesome coach. He helped our throwing more in an hour than months of watching videos at home had done! Thanks man!!!

[@mikegee8875]

So, why didn't Ronnie show us his so called skills? True dice setters have the dice do a dead cat bounce right at the wall. Only very few people in the world are genuine dice setters and they don't teach and they stay under the radar.

[@averageguycraps8570]

You have mastered the art of throwing the seven!

[@papaeli123]

Bet any 7

[@GranTube]

Or on Pass Line before a number is established

[@gregorypatricks4679]

Ron is a great instructor. He has given me a lot to concentrate on to practice at home and improve my game.

[@traceyB6589]

I had a great lesson with Ronnie. I went to Ellis Island right after then rolled for an hour.

[@traceyB6589]

I can't remember the set he taught me from stick left. I am short.

[@jamesbrown1875]

I love how Ronnie coached you to the correct swing and the dice were flowing nicely - Can't wait to Throw' Thanks Alex

[@Jana-TheCraftyGambler]

I wouldn’t pay for anyone to “teach” me how to set dice. However, I have found that when setting the dice on the come out throw, I set the dice to all 7’s. It does help to get that 7/11 your looking for. Once point is established, I set to all hard ways and it helps to eliminate the 7/11. I don’t have a specific way of “tossing” the dice, and I don’t worry about finger placement. It has worked for me to get a nice long roll. It’s not fool proof but it’s done very well for me.

[@victorirving3782]

Dude you just fixed my throw. Thank you so very much. I have been trying to get that throw down for months. I almost gave up on the game, but who am I kidding. Again thank you.

[@brizzlex1919]

Now that you think you are controlling dice absolutely nothing has changed about your game. Congrats!

[@bronsonnekomoto6453]

I love how I can see your rolling improve throughout this video

[@the300club8]

Coach Ronnie is a GREAT teacher!! 👍🏾👍🏾 He has helped me develop my throw far better and faster than I ever would have on my own! The first few times I visited Vegas this year were specifically to train with him. If live in OR EVEN VISIT Vegas, and you love craps but hate losing, DEFINITELY book an appointment with Coach Ronnie!

[@basemsayed3050]

4:12 this is a good seven lol. I could not stop myself from laughing loud when I saw this.

[@jcjr5563]

Since he is using a "Hard Way" set a "5" and "2" means one die rotated 2 sides more than the other. The dice were rolling straight (on axis). A "1" or "6" using the hard way means that the die was "off axis" as it did not roll straight. Object is for the dice to rotate equally and come up as a hard 4, 6, 8 or 10. If one dice is off 1 side rotation then you will never 7 out.

[@masterslacker]

The dreaded double pitch, the bane of the hardway set...you need one off axis..

[@craps.teacher]

He’s a good instructor, I’ve been to 4 golden touch craps seminars

[@brizzlex1919]

The puts you 4 seminars closer to not being able to control dice. Congrats

[@craps.teacher]

@@brizzlex1919 this comment puts you as the number one hater ... Congrats

[@brizzlex1919]

@@craps.teacher Glad we crossed paths. It's been fun

[@sebastianromero420]

Took four courses from scammers to become one yourself

[@craps.teacher]

@@sebastianromero420 how long did it take you to become a troll and who did you learn it from….. just wondering because thats my next occupation

[@joefran619]

Was practicing on my homemade table. Made a slight adjustment and threw 37 times before the seven. Practice people, everyone's different so make adjustments.

[@JohnQuest413]

What was the adjustment?

[@joefran619]

@@JohnQuest413 different dice set., adjust landing zone, closer to back further from back. When tossing dice keep fingers together. Little adjustments

[@toothpickproductions1283]

#CrapsNation 🎲💥💥 Thanks for the Shout Out Alex!!!!

[@joefran619]

On of my problems was when letting the dice go my fingers would spread out now after practicing for months I am able to keep them together. Little things matter. I love practicing.

[@sparkydelivers]

Wish I would have seen this before my last trip to Vegas... oh well, next trip I know where I am going after a late breakfast!!

[@hardwayjoe8208]

You are starting to get the form alex looking good.

[@born2rolldice]

love the video alex!!! thanks for the shout out to craps nation! love to have you as a guest! pm george from cy

[@howtogrow3020]

Dice control is a new life goal. Cant wait to test it out in vegas in a few years

[@rayhjr72]

cant wait to hear how much you lost, I will wait another year to find out. Keep me informed

[@howtogrow3020]

@@rayhjr72 salty

[@rayhjr72]

@@howtogrow3020 ....soon to be broke

[@travisbonzpiercy2660]

This was a great video I’m going to have to start playing but take it slow but you guys def teach great stuff.

[@CasinoQuest]

You got this! Good luck and happy gambling! --Mari

[@karlnelson335]

Ronnie... myself and the Doom Crew had a blast playing with you when we were in Vegas! All the best!

[@karlnelson335]

Every craps table is different. Look close. The base level may be off table to table by mere inches, more or less. The table top... is it worn out, new??? Bouncy or hard??? Length of the table... based on the venue... what spot is available for the shooter (stick right, stick left)??? a true set and control shooter will have to take all of this into account and find a table that is close to his/her practice table... not an easy task. That being said... once found... pure. I've been able to find that sweet spot twice... pure hero. Memories that will last for lifetime.

[@mikesan247]

Dice hit the table they become random!!!!! fact💯💯💯.

[@brizzlex1919]

I love that the first roll the professional setting instructor threw is 7. 🤣😂🤣

[@OnceShy_TwiceBitten]

Proof everyone is full of shit, and even more morons that pay them to listen to them lmao. At least the one's that never passed middle school math class.

[@49ertimer]

That’s a dub tho lmao

[@tonimartin6167]

He is a professional for the "don't", the king of the 7's

[@keja5097]

It's ok that's good 7

[@BosoxPatsfan603]

Ron you're the man! ✌️😊👍

[@jordicairo9862]

Great video !! thanks guys, I will definitely look you up next time I'm in Vegas. Do you sell the setup tool to practice with? Sadly I'm not very good with tools,.

[@9wild209]

It’s kinda easy to throw, if their isn’t any land mine . Put a chips in the pass line , field and etc to see how it is .

[@harlanabraham7772]

I like to use a hardway set with doubles set all around. Sometimes use the Flying 3's. When I go to a bouncey table, like at the Golden Nugget, like to use a corner roll.

[@born2rolldice]

loved this video pretty good intro to dice setting and throwing

[@WClark-lp9vc]

In Swedish Craps, I’ve mastered the art of throwing a “Sven”.

[@lowrollerscraps2477]

Alex, your throw improved in just that short session!

[@jaimegarcia7922]

Yes it did, but then when he went back to the casino to play real money... he went back to his old way of throwing the dice. He should take the casino teacher, to win some money.

[@tide1212]

I improved a lot after focusing on and trying to make sure the dice are Parallel to the table all the way through , landing zone is so important . The diamond back already gives casinos a huge advantage making it difficult . Even a perfect toss can end up 7 . How much for one hour?

[@christopherpike9662]

Do you think if somebody could really master the dice that they would be giving classes? 🤣🤣🤣

[@jaimegarcia7922]

If somebody could really master the dice, He would never speak to Alex OR you OR me. He would only Speak to young ladies.

[@CosmicChannel9]

I love dice setting! I figured I had an 11% edge after practicing a few weeks (logged everything). Vegas in 2019 wasn't Vegas in 2005 (last time I went). I had to pay for EVERYTHING! No comp meals, akk gone to hell. Went with $1k, came back with $1k.. expenses ate all the rest (about $600). Will definitely do some sessions with these guys.

[@bryceangelo8867]

do you even get free drinks?

[@ThyCorruptor]

Even with an 11% edge (which would be insane by the way) you just need hours at the table with you shooting to guarantee profit. plus with only 1000 dollar bankroll variance will ruin you,

[@brucemerrian5749]

If you went with $1,000 and came back with $1,000 That makes you a winner!👍👍

[@dantse6087]

i got no clue about craps but i think throwing dice totally random no matter how you place the dice ?

[@ALPHADUNIT]

Absolutely. The dice must hit the wall and it's completely random. How the dice arrive makes no difference in the outcome. It just makes people feel more in control of the game.

[@420hotbox36]

I played craps for the 2nd time yesterday. Started with a $200 bankroll and ended with $3700. I was shaking the dice in my hands and throwing them randomly hard against the wall. I even hit the 150 to 1 side bet and got everyone $1500 since we had all bet $10 on it. I was on a roll throwing dice randomly. And then I see this so-called professional explain everything, then get a 7 on the very first throw lmao

[@BDoggy45]

15:44 Ayye Ronnie is with it 😂🤣

[@rlpolk111]

I would always prefer to bet on a dice setter than a chicken feeder. Some of the feeders throw the dice so hard you would think the table is twice as long.. There are some that are not setters but throw with confidence and I bet on them too.

[@glenthomason9636]

This is a great service for you to offer. How much for an hour lesson?

[@user-cc9is6kt1n]

That was impressive

[@MM-nj2hi]

V set i use for 7s on the comeout and have great results

[@moanakaua1149]

Love it!

[@larrycaseboltjr9498]

Just one question for those who doubt that dice can be influenced, why then do casinos spend a lot of money to assure that the dice rolls are random? Obviously they wouldn't have to take extra steps to prevent dice control if they felt that throwing dice was always random.

[@ryanhampson673]

I’ve watched a lot of dice setting trying to improve but personally I’m with you. You have to hit the back wall and the alligator covering was designed to break up the dice to insure randomness. You could try to target the tiny strip on the bottom that isn’t covered but they might call it saying it didn’t hit the backing. I love the game but there is so much superstition people bring to the table when really it’s just a mathematical game (just like all gambling)

[@andrewmyers3520]

They just put the diamond wall on the back and require you to hit the wall, how is that taking extra steps to prevent dice control lol

[@larrycaseboltjr9498]

@@andrewmyers3520 Do you even play craps? Why a diamond cut? Because it's pretty? Why couldn't it be just hit a flat surface back wall? Which it would be if they didn't spend extra on the diamond back. So yes, they spend extra to create a more random throw. It must have been needed or they wouldn't spend the extra money.

[@andrewmyers3520]

@@larrycaseboltjr9498 all I’m saying is putting the diamond wall up is all they have to do. You’re acting like they’re doing the most to prevent dice control.

[@andrewmyers3520]

They’re not real diamonds by the way

[@burnercomented]

I secretly took dice class at CEG to practice my toss...🤫

[@darrenkennedy5990]

Ronnie is great, really help my throw, grip, and landing zone.

[@jaimegarcia7922]

How munch does he charge for one hour of teaching./

[@bryantrinh7482]

I don’t know how I feel about dice control, let’s put it this way, if it truly worked, why aren’t they at the casinos 24/7 becoming rich? I throw randomly and have done very well, like being on your toes and leaning on the table, is that really going to keep me from crapping out?

[@JH-xe5bv]

What do you recommend when throwing from the hook? Or next to base?

[@rf421]

@casinoquest ?

[@cdvan6183]

I recommend throw ur $$ to ur checking account

[@marconiusiii]

I'm interested in learning dice setting, but I'm a fully blind Craps player. How would you adapt this training for a blind player? Would take more tactile practice and being able to feel the pips or set the dice quickly with verbal instruction when actually playing, but orienting to the table and figuring out where to aim and land the dice would take some repetition and work.

[@robertlukacs1762]

You sir I would love to shoot craps with. I assume you’re able to feel the spots on the dice. So you need eyes to locate the landing zone. Have a friend touching the back of your non throwing hand. Where they touch indicating where the dice land. Double touch is two bounces before wall. Right or left touch to indicate from center wall. This way dealers don’t think you’re being coached. Easily could be done with the right person.

[@marconiusiii]

@@robertlukacs1762 Verbal acknowledgement would work, but for training, it would come down to learning how to feel for and set the dice, or my sighted wife could quickly tell me the orientation when the dice are passed to me so I can deduce which way to turn them. For the landing zone, someone could set a check near the zone and tap it with the stick so I can hear where I need to aim, and then practice, practice, practice. Once I get the muscle memory down, I should be able to adapt it to any table.

[@robertlukacs1762]

So have you wife say left top 6 face 3. All you need to do is memorize the dice examples 6 is opposite of 1, 2 is to 5 and 3 is to 4. So 6-3 means 2 on left 5 on right 4 on back. I can set the dice pretty quickly at places that don’t allow you to set. But I have my eyesight. As to grip use a pencil to limit your finger tip grip. Finger tips on pencil middle finger on crack of the two dice. Thumb also on crack and just as much as fingers. Try this at coffee in the morning. Two dice and two pencils. Lay the pencils flat with the dice in the middle. Practice picking up the dice keeping the dice tight together but with a light grip. Grabbing the dice tightly will cause them to stick to your fingers

[@robertlukacs1762]

Also your idea about someone tapping the table for you or asking the stick man to (questionable) is risky unless they are with you. I know you can hear things very well, I just hope you’re able to distinguish your helpers from the other’s. That’s why I suggested the hand signals. Just remember that when you toss the dice the only digit that moves from the grip is your thumb. Keep them fingers together. Hopefully this helps

[@dontask4338]

for a Beginner class, this explains very little... WHAT is dice setting? WHY should it work? WHAT is a hardway set?

[@louvoodoo]

Dice setting is creating certain patterns on the dice along with a very consistent throw, the goal is to maintain the relationship between the two dice so that box numbers are favored and the appearance of the seven is delayed. It only takes one controlled throw in 43 to overcome the -1.52% house edge on the passline bet. The physics-based analysis and mechanics of why it works can be found in Get the Edge at Craps by Sharpshooter. The Hardways set is a pattern that creates the relationship of the 1-6 1-6 on the axis of the dice with the 2-2, 5-5, 3-3, and 4-4 along the outside faces. It is the best set to use for a beginner.

[@alyssadiceflipper5201]

HOw much is it just to throw the dice on the table? ( warm up before going gambling) Also, I can hear that it's a hard table. Many of the casino are soft bouncy tables. YOu guys should have one.

[@pr9273]

Soft bounce, I try to hit like one cm in front of the 90° crease

[@mrherron7755]

My man said that’s a good 7 😂

[@howtogrow3020]

The first time i noticed that i could have influence on dice was when i was rolling dice for the risk board game. Was rolling into the box that the game comes in. No alligator wall

[@Kate98755]

yup i get up on my toes, breath out before each throw, focus on the landing....i have successful rolls, long rolls

[@jaimegarcia7922]

Alex, the coach did not see your problem...throwing Dice, i did, when you[ ALEX] come to the final stage of throwing the dice YOU always bring your hand straight up to the celling, Thats where your problem is throwing Dice. when you start to release the Dice, make sure your release is Level to the top of the table AND NOT TO THE CELLING. Alex, please show this Post to your coach, so he can correct your Mistake throwing Dice. luck at the casino.

[@bosco9712]

Lol first throw he does is a 7!

[@williamlai5861]

Hello, how to take a class to learn from Casino Quest? Going to Vegas on 27 August 28 ,2023

[@johnlanton9363]

You cannot control the dice and hit the back wall. Give me a break

[@danielbachar5864]

Love the vids.. but you can’t control the random bounces after the dice are thrown.

[@sunnyscott4876]

I agree with you 💯.

[@dendoc957]

I would say if the casinos allow dice setting then it does not matter if you are a random or dice setter. The gaming industry will not allow players to lesson their build-in advantage.

[@blackmagick77]

Agreed, just like card counting. If they even think you are, they ask you to leave

[@jimklemens5018]

Lesson?

[@Danthemanfromny]

Sure we would. Gamblers love to lose. Better still to run their bankroll to the moon than piss it all away. That's what releases the brain chemicals they are addicted to. Winning and driving home? No release! I'm not worried about dice setting as long as you hit the wall. Otherwise, you are cheating.

[@brizzlex1919]

@@jimklemens5018 Reduce

[@douglasward9597]

with your rolls like that I would love to martingale the hopping hardways, lol

[@Texansfan52]

Oh man, Timmy's gonna be pissed after seeing that mic drop

[@ahbalone]

Actually a good used Camry is a smart bet.

[@6popgod845]

You throwing it so HIGH look at Ronnie’s and look at yours

[@Atilleryservices]

How do I get one of those dice gadgets?

[@madworld1808]

Thank you that was fun to watch. I’ll definitely look Ron up.

[@kylesisson4052]

It would have been nice to know what you're aiming at. Never showed the actual target.

[@BuyCBDCigarettes]

Where can you buy the gripper?

[@CasinoQuest]

www.shopcasinoquest.com/

[@munkeybonz589]

How much is the Brooklyn bridge?

[@jjashekki]

Does Ronnie sell the dice setting device you guys used?

[@jaydallas9895]

seven machine

[@Heyguayeplease]

I set my dice up too but the 7 still comes out. I have no idea what im doing wrong here.

[@WizardBalls29]

whats under the layout ? it sounds hard

[@FairwayJay]

I didnt hear much about trying to get the dice spin less in the air/ spin together in the air

[@unkown9081]

7:33 “here’s ten ladies best friend” 💀

[@scvz9wolf9]

I’m kinda confused why someone would be so uncomfortable to shoot from your toes? I understand he’s the professional but wouldn’t it be logical to shoot from the most comfortable position and develop consistency (I’m a noob)

[@mlhm5]

Dude the math - 36 possibilities and on the come out roll the chances of not throwing a 7 are 83%, however by the 4th roll the chances of rolling a 7 are 52%.

[@sinister5904]

Nope. Every roll you have a 1/6 chance of rolling a 7. Doesn't matter how many times in a row you did or didn't roll one. 🎲 🎲 don't have a memory.

[@phxsun2001tony]

@@sinister5904 You are correct. The previous rolls does not affect the next roll. Each roll is independent of the previous rolls. Blackjack is different. On a single deck game, if 4 Aces came out already during the 1st round, there won't be any BJ in the next round. Players are at a disadvantage, so bet less.

[@Joniisan]

me when i see the microphones drop: "Organic!"

[@yyds-feifei]

Anyone can tell me how to contact this coach?? Thank you.

[@bbbbannana9710]

every-time he says "thats a good one" it comes up a 7?

[@brizzlex1919]

😂

[@sebastianromero420]

4:13 is all I needed to see. Sets hard ways and throws a seven. Over-rotating one of the die. Very common with this method of throwing. This guy tries to teach what he can’t do.

[@JacobOh93]

I’m not saying dice control and dice setting is true. But the logic behind dice control and setting is that the dice stay on axis. This elongates the possibility of any craps and also 1-6 combination for 7. Also no proclaim dice controllers says that can control every dice. It all boils down to the number of rolls to 7 ratio. If said ration is 1:6.4 and above because random rolls is 1:6. You technically have an edge over the long term. Math calculation on wizard of odds page. That being said, dice control is still a debatable concept where no one has definitively proven over the long run it’s possible or not.

[@sebastianromero420]

@@JacobOh93 I’m a very good influencer and can tell you that no set works.

[@JacobOh93]

@@sebastianromero420 so youre saying you can influence the dice very well but dice setting is useless? i dont get what you mean.

[@sebastianromero420]

@@JacobOh93 what I mean is that all the sets they teach are useless. You have to find the set that works for you on that given day.

[@cdvan6183]

#1 game revenue for the casino and baccarat

[@iden135]

How much is a session?

[@TheOtomo]

Dice setting is complete fantasy. Once the dice hit the diamond back wall, the roll is completely random. If your toss does not hit the back wall, the stickman will most likely give you a warning, and if you persist to 'short throw' the dice will be passed to the next player to shoot. The only reason to shoot dice like this, is to just add a more focused attention to the game though ultimately dice setting and controlled tosses have no effect.

[@lostboarder1]

Dice setting is just the beginning, you also need to know how to throw. Anyone can set dice and thinking that just setting the dice will effect the outcome is fantasy. But setting the dice and a proper throw can decrease the chances for a seven to appear. It doesn’t eliminate throwing the seven, but could improve your odds.

[@jgregg7100]

I hate playing with dice setters. Just fucking throw it and roll your 7 so it can be my roll again so we can actually win some money

[@Kate98755]

thanks

[@garyorourke382]

Where are you trying to aim though?

[@sunnyscott4876]

I've got some land in Florida I'd like to sell you too.... (I'd rather be lucky than good..)

[@Redeyefiddler]

“That’s ok”

[@deanmiller294]

What does standing on your toes do to help your random roll?

[@CasinoQuest]

From what the team has told me the main thing is to have a consistent dice throw and routine. Hope this helps! Happy gambling. 😊 --Mari

[@norcalzx3]

Right, cool...what's the point?

[@gabinom1962]

👍👍👍

[@garydickson9669]

Were are yall located?

[@CasinoQuest]

Hi there Gary, CQ is located inside the Fashion Show Mall in Las Vegas, second floor next to Dillard's/ Macy's Men! --Mar

[@rayhjr72]

OMG snake oil. If this guy could control the dice he would not only be on a beach sipping mai tais he would own the beach!

[@yomamaso100]

@Blia Yang no they arnt rigged Its just random

[@dovieann5639]

Absolutely snake oil. Besides, if you hit the gator as required by every house the dice go random. It's pointless and slows the game.

[@rayhjr72]

@@dovieann5639 now you know CS is just a money grab also. They hired just some schmuck of the street to teach you the unteachable just to get your money!

[@amphibdriver1]

No dice setter can control the dice but a good dice setter and can influence the dice. When you set the dice and practice a lot you will then learn your SOR ( seven out ratio ) and this will determine your betting strategy. Watch some of this guy's videos on setting dice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZbXfKGanLN-kJI

[@dovieann5639]

@@amphibdriver1 100% incorrect. I'm telling you as a craps dealer that dice setting is pointless. I see more rolls a night than most see in a month and setting doesn't do anything other than slow the game. Just shoot the dice.

[@bryanfulton2481]

Alex, you’re like a kid who doesn’t listen in this video. 😂 Start under your nose and swing it back first! Don’t start two inches back from your nose. He had to tell you like 37 times! 🤪

[@djbthunder]

Where can i get the "grip trainer""

[@housemoney2143]

Does this get the Timmy “organic” stamp? Lol

[@CasinoQuest]

It does! When you see our live casino video soon it helped me. -- Alex

[@bruceeigsti5274]

No such thing dice dont how they are rolled

[@OnceShy_TwiceBitten]

If this was ACTUALLY possible and worked in the long run, then so many would have been using it to run the game dry and the game would have been moved out of the casino long ago. Or people would get backed off like they do with Black jack. There is no way you can prove this works by rolling even just 5 ort 6 of anything in a row lmao.

[@marteserobinson4438]

Bs. You can’t control. I hit the make em all by just rolling the dice on the table 😅

[@ericwazner6521]

👍🎲🎲👊

[@tonimartin6167]

The dice coach?, is this a joke??????, that guy is a clown