DicKtionary - F is for Fraud - Jeanne de Valois Saint-Remy

F is for fraud, the art of deceit,
And it’s not so nice to be labeled a cheat,
F is also for France, and female, so let me,
Introduce today’s hero, Jeanne Saint-Remy.
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[@TimeGhost]

And now for something different...Today's entry in the DicKtionary takes us on a romantic adventure of scandal, deceit, and national crisis in France just before the French Revolution. Enjoy!

[@prinzeugenvansovoyen732]

first oh yess

[@prinzeugenvansovoyen732]

nice vid

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks

[@prinzeugenvansovoyen732]

no thank you, you made my day end good

[@James--Parker]

So Marie Antoinette turned down expensive gifts out of concern for Frances finances? She really doesn't deserve her reputation. Edit: Wow so her turning it down led to a series of events that ultimately created her image? That's just cruel.

[@TimeGhost]

Yup... she also never said "let them eat cake" as a reply to the bread crisis - if anyone said it (it's unclear) it was Madame de Bovary many, many years earlier. In many ways, Marie Antoinette was just a lustful, frivolous teenager that had the bad luck of being born in the wrong family, in the wrong place at the wrong time... in any case she really didn't have any real political power, so her personal behaviour this way, or that was of little consequence to anyone except her immediate surroundings.

[@paulbrule5897]

It was lie fabricated by the bourgeoisie

[@donsarde]

@@paulbrule5897 En effet , cela est très juste.

[@donsarde]

The diamond necklace was ordered by King Louis XV of France for his mistresse, Madame du Barry, by the time Louis XVI became King, he was no longer interested as it was much too much expensive at a cost of one million six hundred thousand pounds. It was too heavy, and the new Queen refused to buy it as it was destined for a vulgar retouriere." The Countess de la Motte - Valois took revenge on the Royal family for having confiscation her ancestral estate and killing her father. The King never did reinstate the Countess's claim to her real title ( Jeanne de Valois - St Remy, Countess de la motte.) Nor her estates. They say the Countess jumped for a hotel window in London, jumped or pushed by Royalists ...........??

[@donsarde]

@@TimeGhost the Queen never stated " let them eat cake," this was yet another lie invented by the bourgeoisie.

[@indianajones4321]

K is for King Leopold II

[@TimeGhost]

He's on the list of DicKtators

[@derptank3308]

K is for every english King ever

[@joehoe222]

Hands up if you... Oh...

[@Jason-fm4my]

Not L?

[@andresmartinezramos7513]

I havent laughed this much thanks to history in a long time.

[@TimeGhost]

Thank you! That's nice to hear.

[@prestongarvey7745]

F is for friends who do stuff together U is for you and me N is for anywhere and anytime at all Down here in the deep blue sea!

[@TimeGhost]

Nice and uplifting.

[@robertoazuaje9279]

F is for fire that burns the whole town U is for Uranium! N is for no survivors when you're...

[@heathercontois4501]

Thank you for the McFly music at the end!

[@GerackSerack]

4:21 Is that a reference to the "Banished" video game? Nice vidya taste there.

[@TimeGhost]

That's our editor Bastian for you... perceptive catch.

[@tehbertl]

It definitely is! I noticed that too. It's the actual logo. Such a fine game, too.

[@theonewhoplays3819]

I love these videos with Indy.

[@alcaulique8358]

Great episode. I must say I love your french names' pronunciation! ;)

[@HistoryMarche]

Dragged through the mud, 9:54 ROFL! DicKtionary series is getting better and better.

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks

[@freakshop5120]

Impressive use of defenestrated, Indy!

[@sonofrivadin3684]

It's so weird to me to see Indy like this. He is so funny.

[@JTA1961]

W0W !! literal Strong-"arm" collections + eye owe you... & finally I guess it's curtains for you ! 🍳😎♨

[@joshuaruiz1455]

loving your videos Indy

[@prinzeugenvansovoyen732]

please do Fritz Haber or King Leopold II of Begium

[@cd6xc]

"That's not kind of an achievement", I laughed.

[@alexalexandru73]

This is the best story from dicktionary. From time to time I come back to listen to it

[@darthbee18]

6:18 ayyyy a Columbo sighting! 😺😏😎🙌

[@servinglooks247]

This is one of the best Dicktionary episode.

[@TimeGhost]

Thanks

[@kcharles8857]

Just found this channel. Instant addiction!

[@grinkashman7884]

wow , that was great!! ok, now I need to know what bass that is ,and the guitar.Indy you so kill it!

[@thephilosopherofculture4559]

The story is a nice grown-up one, the evaluation that of a child. Imagine the situation one is in when born into a destitute family in a badly managed kingdom where years of famine were a common occurrence for the ordinary people. The lady Jeanne de Valois managed to make the most of her life and charms, far more than anyone would have thought possible at her birth. And in her time, the 18 th century, corruption and intrigue was the norm of the day, especially at the court of the Regent and then the incredibly stupid kings Louis XV and Louis XVI. So, she deserves very high kudos and should not be judged by the politically correct and therefore wholly inappropriate values of American Christian society of 2018.

[@aasante3437]

G Is for general : Pinochet

[@augustopinochet2495]

I'm not that bad of a guy... how about I take you for a helicopter ride? :)

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

The fact that this has become a meme is indicative of how many people feel a loose connection with reality thanks to the distance of the internet.

[@cryptclown]

lol glad I found this channel series.

[@ryanjapan3113]

2:30 well, it’s a double edged sword, cause on one hand it’s kinda creepy (and sorta dangerous), but on the other you could meet the queen relatively easily if she so desired.

[@5chr4pn3ll]

Oh speaking of France: will you do Marquis de Sade? That guy was ...interesting.

[@Longtack55]

Best clip was the "critique" of Steve Bannon. Priceless!

[@willyreeves319]

thumbs up for the yellowbeard reference

[@starkparker16]

I love me some defenestration.

[@CrazyCodger]

the animal house reference is perfect.

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

Herman Goering

[@TimeGhost]

More than a dick...

[@benoitlabrecque4513]

Just a detail, but you probounce jeanne like jean, wich is a boy's name. Add "_ne" at the end to have the good one. (sorry)

[@shawngilliland243]

@Benoit Labrecque - I am pleased that I was not mistaken as to that.

[@kurtvanduran7725]

I do believe she was a character in rose of Versailles

[@hejarmikami5828]

Yes, she was.

[@MrTohawk]

Reminds me of a character in Ken Follets new(ish) novel.

[@MrSam1er]

One thing bothers me. It's not "Jean", it's "Jeanne". Wich means it's pronounced almost like the englishe "Jane", but with the same "a" as in "rat".

[@shawngilliland243]

@Samuel Pasche - thank you for your explanation; I knew that Jeanne could not be properly pronounced the same as Jean.

[@timothyhouse1622]

What will people in the future say about this chapter of history we are living today? That is being optimistic there is a future.

[@The1920sChannel]

Oh god, there's TWO pillows in this one. He's staring into my soul. I feel violated.

[@joaocoelho1029]

7:36 ... which lad Eugène Delacroix to paint in 1830 'La Liberté guidant le peuple' , that became in 2008 the cover for Coldplay's 'Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends'. That's the whole story.

[@JamesTobiasStewart]

Comment for the algorithm. Behold my engagement.

[@lesbatty84]

What a lady,my kinda gal

[@Kuudere-Kun]

I like Jeanne.

[@hejarmikami5828]

Me too

[@jagapatto]

Now I have to ask about the bass!

[@jagapatto]

Way cool. Love the DicKtionary btw. The Count had me howling.

[@americana_incarnate1717]

And then they all died in the revolution.

[@key099able]

2:58 Is that Attack on Titan Historia and Levi?

[@Artur_M.]

Karl Eriksson I think it is... Well, that's a reference I didn't expect to see here.

[@gcircle]

Yes

[@matthewlebo1841]

G is for Genocide I is for Indian M is for Massacre P is for President R is for Racism/Relocation T is for Tribe You have a lot of options if you want to cover Andrew Jackson.

[@hybridh3r0]

Nice JCVD pillows.

[@phloebs]

Atleast her scheming harmed the Queens reputation

[@phloebs]

Rabite890 lol if you think the aristocrats were innocent while the peasants were starving there's smth seriously wrong with you.

[@TimeGhost]

Marie Antionette was 15 years old when she was forced to marry the future king, Louis -Auguste who himself was 16 years old. She was Austrian, the youngest daughter of the Holy Roman Emperor. The court of the King of France was an elaborate system of representation, ostentatious display, and complex relationship mongering. Full of nepotism, corruption and inequality it was mighty unpopular with the subjects of the crown. Not only because it was an absolute system without jurisprudence, but especially as they had come to suffer financially from France's war debts, and the inefficient, corrupt system of aristocratic rule. But let's get back to Marie-Antionette; born into the highest echelons fo European aristocracy she knew what was expected of her, namely two things: keep up the representative position of the crown and have babies. She did a pretty good job at both, entertaining the court as lavishly as she should (within her budget btw.) and having four children. But... she was also Austrian, pretty, and a teenager. The last bits resulted in some weird behaviour that by today's standards would be considered downright perverted and eccentric, (such as maintaining a play farm, with animals, young hunky farm hands, pretty milk maidens and all, where she and her friends went to pretend to be farmers in a romantic make believe world full of orgies and omni sexual behaviour) but... First of all this was the world she had been born into, and she was as stated a teenager - there was no YouPorn back then to vicariously live out your teenage fantasies and... if you can, you can. Second of all this had little, if any effect on the king's overall finances. What was really ruining France was corruption, and the staggering debts incurred during the Seven Years' War and The American Revolution (which France supported and financed). Marie-Antionette had nothing to do with either of the two and had no power to influence it. A spendthrift beyond the requirements of her "job" she was not, political power she had none. Last, but not least she was Austrian - although The Holy Roman Empire (Austria) had been an ally in the Seven Years' War, it was viewed as an enemy of the crown's interests amongst the subjects of the crown. As dissatisfaction with the aristocratic system came to a boiling point, Marie Antionette was made into a symbol of everything that was seen as being wrong; spend-thriftiness, nepotism, corruption, inequality, and relations with other powers that were not seen as friends (much thanks to the affair with the necklace). In other words; she was a bloody foreigner who was too pretty and spent too much on dresses and parties - hardly the source of France's woes, nor a reason to go to the guillotine. But the revolutionaries wanted to set a symbolic example (and end the bloodline of the Bourbons once and for all). Somewhat ironic that they themselves brought about Napoleon - literally the Emperor of corruption, nepotism, wasteful wars, bad alliances, ostentatious state spending, and inequality.

[@TouchofShunshine]

I love Dicktionary.

[@frank_fick]

M for Fanulous Moolah of wwe fame. thats a hell of a story

[@markusz4447]

06.58 Rohans Charge *_*

[@bigghoss762]

Anyone else watch Jean Claude Van Johnson on Amazon? Hilarious!

[@firstcynic92]

I wouldn't be surprised if Dumas used some of this in The Three Musketeers.

[@TimeGhost]

Hi did...

[@franzgrim]

Is that Jean-Paul Van Damme is a Napoleonic uniform? haha :D XD

[@jebedmondson6428]

M is for music, col tom parker

[@remydupart1853]

Oh no

[@38bass]

🖤😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@astrobullivant5908]

Time will tell if Steve Bannon is just a footnote in History.

[@VladTevez]

Harming a royal reputation is never bad

[@TimeGhost]

Well...what if you yourself are a royal?

[@VladTevez]

I would abolish the monarchy from the beginning :P

[@TimeGhost]

If you yourself were a royal?

[@VladTevez]

I would still abolish the monarchy from the beginning :P

[@TimeGhost]

The point is they were 'family' - pretty dickish thing to do, even to a distant relative...

[@starkparker16]

The Count of Sesame Street.

[@zaxxxppe]

how many days until WW2?

[@andreivaldez6713]

zaxxxppe I guess we'll never know as there are unfortunately no written or photographic records from back then that could give us hints to when that'll be.

[@luksas4446]

The Great War-the war to end all wars is not over yet and you-the absolute madman it seems-are asking for The Great War Sequel?!

[@VeraTR909]

-28671 days

[@YouPlague]

As funny answers are already there, September.

[@kilokalex7290]

L for Light-Horse Lee.

[@cwovictor3281]

V is for Venezuela - Simon Bolivar. Maybe. Unless he counts as one of the "great leaders" you won't talk about or as a dicktator which is another series.

[@TimeGhost]

Cwovictor we’ve decided to dictators here too, but rate then on the DicKtator scale - still working on the scale, but the first DicKtator will be under H for Homicidal

[@josynaemikohler6572]

Wait a second, what kind of debt collectors are those? Sounds pretty much more like mobster brutes.

[@UltimaSigmarAlonso]

Ghengis Khan

[@TomSistermans]

I bet the N will be for narcissist, and we get a story about Trump

[@James--Parker]

"Living people don't count."

[@TomSistermans]

James Parker if we're lucky he'll be dead by the time we get there

[@ideclaredwaronyourfrenchas4123]

Look a libtard

[@TomSistermans]

Your average Commentator liberal, so right winged

[@prinzeugenvansovoyen732]

first

[@pennsylvaniafellow4409]

Would you trust anyone with a name as malicious sounding as Count Cagliostro?

[@SamAronow]

There’s a really bad movie about this from 2001 called The Affair of the Necklace about this, starring Hillary Swank and a bunch of other famous people. It made less than half a million dollars and is an utter mangling of both history and cinema. Please do not watch it.

[@TimeGhost]

We have been warned.