Did Ahsoka Recognize Maul Could be Correct about Anakin’s Future Immediately After Order 66? (Canon)

[@DarrelsWonderland]

Ahsoka: Go cause chaos, Maul. Also Ahsoka: *Tries to stop Maul from escaping* Maul: This whole operation was your idea!

[@sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902]

i mean that was their only ship (that they knew to be available anyway)

[@ahsoka5216]

Ahsoka's just lucky there was a second ship to escape in.

[@kvaldez46]

I'm not brave enough for politics

[@mikelambsworld4368]

It wasn’t really to stop him from escaping. It was to stop him from taking the ship, which up to that point, Ahsoka thought was the only one left.

[@maryuma7]

I think she did deep inside but was in denial about it at that time.

[@ahsoka5216]

I agree.

[@r3gret2079]

She should have searched her feelings. Then she would know this to be true.

[@sarahconnor2129]

That's hilarious because I just watched all the movies (all 6 anyways) and I couldn't help but think that if you took a shot every time they said that youd he drunk af

[@RyanTheDark]

I think she thought about it but she probably thought he was defending the Jedi Temple from the clones.

[@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439]

ironic

[@JanPeverell]

I think she could. Ahsoka has spend enough time with Anakin to see his flaws, and her older self on Mortis also made some implications. However, Anakin was pretty much her brother and through it all always did everything he did with good intentions and his heart in the right place. We're all pretty capable of suppressing some negative thoughts and experiences, and Ahsoka most definitely wanted to remember the good times with her comrades rather than anything else, especially after the traumatic events of Order 66. She probably entertained the idea merely as a stray thought and then squashed it.

[@Pin-Din7]

I don't know I feel like some more things could've been explored with final season if Final Season didn't include like 4eps of Ahsoka playing Mom to 2 teens. It ofcourse was a nice life msg the eps communicated but since it's the final season with not alot of eps it would've been better to focus on more concrete characters and events than 2 characters I foresee that we will never see again.

[@wynfrithnichtwo8423]

I hated those episodes. Those were the worst waste of time for telling the story, which is a story with to much depth to waste on such an arc.

[@Modelstl063]

Wynfrith Nichtwo I skipped em

[@patricklacey4946]

Arrogance, the subtle recurring theme of the Star Wars franchise. In this instance, Tano's arrogance in that she "knew better" than anyone; Annakin was pure or that the Jedi were not trustworthy enough to share information led to her downfall.

[@jeangentry6656]

to be fair, she has no real reason to believe her mortal enemy is right on this one. The Anakin she knew wouldn't do what he did. Sadly, they never got to talk about what happened during that year she was away. She has always been fiercely loyal towards Anakin, so why would she believe Maul?

[@patricklacey4946]

@@jeangentry6656 good point, counterpoint; arrogance clouded her judgement, she could have told the council that the Sith may be working to lead Anakin into a trap

[@jeangentry6656]

@@patricklacey4946 when would she have had this chance to speak to the Council, and why would the Council believe her? Let's not forget how Master Windu brushed "Citizen" Tano off.

[@patricklacey4946]

@@jeangentry6656 You mean at 3:17 into S7:E11 when Yoda complimented her and she stated she did her a duty as a citizen, Yoda stated "Not as a Jedi?" and she stated she was not a Jedi? Perhaps you are referring to the 4:14 mark when everyone else was gone and Yoda asked if she had more to say, and she declined. At that point even Rex questioned why she was withholding information....

[@calrose]

I just got the Ahsoka novel & right now I’m on S6 of Clone Wars. Eek 😱 I’m excited. I don’t know if you’re ever gonna read this comment, but I wanted to say ty for introducing me to Star Wars stuff. I had fell asleep watching KZbin one night & somehow KZbin’s algorithm ended up playing your channel’s videos as I slept. I awoke hearing you talk about one character’s or another’s fall to the Dark Side and I was about to turn it off and fall back asleep, but while I was looking for the remote, I got intrigued, so instead, once I found the remote, I subscribed & kept listening as I fell back asleep haha. Thanks for making these videos & introducing me to Star Wars :)

[@Eric-kb2xt]

Sounds silly to me that Ahsoka would try to connect with Anakin through the Force, but not Obi-Wan. Had she linked up with him, she’d have learned the truth without a doubt.

[@jeangentry6656]

Ahsoka would never consider the possibility that Anakin could become a Sith. A fallen Jedi like herself? Sure, but Sith? No. Ahsoka is more or less a Samurai towards the end of The Clone Wars and in Rebels, and Samurai were devoted to their Lord/Master, even unto death. Ahsoka has always displayed a fierce loyalty and Hero Worship towards Anakin that lasted well into her adulthood, so her rejecting Maul's words and being in denial about Anakin being Darth Vader in Rebels makes perfect sense. Even when she met Anakin/Vader in Twilight of the Apprentice, she stated that she would avenge ANAKIN's death, and when ANAKIN briefly reappeared in her duel with Vader, she said she wouldn't leave him again. I don't know if she ever truly realized Maul was right, but if there was ever a time she would consider his words, it would be when she and Ezra were in the World Between Worlds, when she admitted that she couldn't save Anakin and had to let him go.

[@redpilledtrooper7523]

Are we forgetting that Ahsoka had a force vision of Palpatine and Anakin killing Mace Windu? We could hear everything and if she couldn't put two and two together with what Maul said about Anakin being groomed for years, then what kind of detective/general/space monk is she?

[@o8198]

i think she just heard it, not entirely sure tho

[@Protocol36]

Vader: "You know what happened to your master?" Ahsoka: "I know enough, I know YOU killed him" Vader: "No. I am your master." Ahsoka: "No..... that's not true. That's impossible!" Vader: "Search your feelings you know this to be true!" Ahsoka: "Nooooo! No!" *faints*

[@jeangentry6656]

well, the dialogue between her and Vader in "Twilight of the Apprentice" isn't too different, except she doesn't faint.

[@Protocol36]

Jean Gentry True but I was trying to mirror that to Luke and Vader’s in Empire Strikes Back 😂

[@mitchhuck]

bud i like ur videos, watched most of em, but you repeat your point a lot man.

[@jonmurphy4889]

That's just his style...

[@ML-sc3pt]

@@jonmurphy4889 that's just trying to get those 10 minutes for algorithm

[@ShinobiShowdown]

Ashoka to Vader: "Noooooo! It's not true! You're not my master!"

[@kelechic.jemelumba9981]

bro, this video could have been summarized in 4 minutes. Felt like the meme about a speech with a word limit where you don't know the content.

[@bigchungus7050]

Tried his hardest to hit the 10 min mark

[@danielmayhugh9602]

Do they get paid by the minute?

[@liamencabo868]

KZbin money man, gotta drag it out to extend the video long enough to reach that ad revenue mark to earn that paycheck!

[@asagadam550]

me : hears "dark side" me inside my head : *in Palpi's voice* "Dark side of the force"

[@Jetsky_YT]

Papa Palpatine

[@BeybladeGenius101]

What I want is some sort of video depiction of Ahsoka realizing Maul was right. The moment where the gears turn. I don't just mean like the moment in Rebels. I want to see a flashback with Maul's words echoing in her head. I want to see her toil with potential regret

[@TheGreatOne777]

I've been wanting this exact scene forever now.

[@scratchedaviators1254]

I gotta say sometimes you repeat stuff so often in one video it often feels like your trying to fill space in a starwars thesis.

[@1014p]

He’s not the only one that dies this. The intros often repeat crap alone.

[@right8630]

Except the part we’re she says I thought I was beginning to understand who u are but my master etc etc granted that could be her figuring it out🤷‍♂️

[@rvhw3466]

Isn’t canon that the empire said anakin died a hero because he was very popular with the republic? If that’s cannon that could be why ahsoka comes to that conclusion after the novel

[@Asdf-wf6en]

8:40 that better be foreshadowing for a future video.

[@philmorecrack3517]

I love your the videos you put out. I don't have the time to keep up with the comics and your channel does it for me. Thanks

[@macwelch8599]

No, she didn’t believe that until the Battle of Malachor

[@rogermurph101]

Question is asked and answered at 1:57. Why does this go on for another seven minutes?

[@Eh_2_Zed]

I think Ashoka knew before rebels but didnt want to admit it and stopped thinking about because she didn't want to know.

[@bobbyvee9950]

It is easy to believe what you want to believe and hard to believe what you don't want to believe.

[@Nelo_Wolf]

In star wars rebels she meditated and she had a brief experience

[@leoncarrillo89]

It's most likely that Ahsoka strongly suspected that Vader was Anakin but never wanted to confirm it. She even has a "please don't be Anakin, please don't be Anakin..." expression when she and Kanan try to figure out who Vader is in Rebels.

[@jeangentry6656]

plus, she faints from shock when she finds out.

[@Mrcaptainmorgan93]

I love the way they've handled maul so much hes not just some bruiser who somehow keeps coming back like in the legends like a hologram or a brain in jar. One of the characters they acually did better than in legends. Imo anyway lol

[@pezpowerproductions2602]

Couldn’t agree with you anymore than I do already.

[@guibox3]

Those 15 years has a lot of unknown info that would make a great TV series. I sure hope we see this.

[@millieboon]

I think she was in denial, like she pushed the thought to the back of her mind. She wants to cling on to the memory of anakin she new

[@tahirahmad9645]

In current Canon she does consider it. It's even on her facial expression. She ponders on this when she returns to Coruscant. And even her vision in rebels TV show have her consider his words.

[@andrewharmer7317]

I say a little part of her knew but didn't want to admit it .

[@pezpowerproductions2602]

I believe this as well.

[@pezpowerproductions2602]

After he first light saber battle. Doesn’t Vader’s helmet crack around his eye. So she makes literal eye contact Sith him?

[@andrewharmer7317]

Yes, she does crack his helmet and sees his eye!

[@sethyboyyy]

Hello there

[@Adam_X78]

General Kenobi

[@countdooku6988]

You are a bold one!

[@YodaSmokes]

Hello there 🤨

[@colinheizen]

Keiilllllllll him

[@countdooku6988]

@@colinheizen I shouldnt... Its not the jedi way

[@varidian694]

What is it with you and the word machinations 😂 recently I keep hearing it in every video you make

[@iamredventure]

I enjoyed the explanation, but I just kept thinking about how some people might hear it as “sexty-sex” 🤣

[@JonStark117]

Miss your KOTOR videos man...did we ever finish those?!

[@protosonic17]

Man palps has some serious chin balls in that shot

[@austin62halo]

Star Wars reading club what if the moment Vader killed the emperor the connection in the force was restored and she could sense annikan the moments before he died. This would be a nice way to start or end the Ashoka series if one is in development

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

What if Anakin went to mandalore?

[@mikelambsworld4368]

It seemed like Maul knew that Anakin did in fact become Vader, in Rebels, before Vader arrived on Malachor.

[@magallanthepenguin9132]

Omg... I was thinking about this... I wanted maul to tell ahsoka I told you so right in her face.

[@LordCaladbolg13]

Why couldn’t Anakin(Vader) sense her in the force. He says “The Padawan lives” with surprise. Why couldn’t he find her?

[@ahsoka5216]

Darth Vader had a feeling that Ahsoka was alive, but their connection in Rebels confirmed it for him. This is shown in the Vader comic where he has a vision of his duel with Ahsoka on Malachor.

[@leoncarrillo89]

I believe that a part of him didn't want to find her, because if he had he would be forced to kill her.

[@imperiumcommentingnetwork4677]

She had the high ground

[@lativ3715]

I had to read the video's title a few times to understand it

[@CdnFN1]

She blocked it out, reasons for every difference in the Ahsoka Novel and why she doesn’t mention it.

[@FrozenShotz25]

How old is Ahsoka during season 5 and how old is she during order 66

[@FAHCORE]

Is the Ahsoka novel still considered canon anymore with the discrepancies and differences seen in the final Clone Wars episodes?

[@imperiumcommentingnetwork4677]

mostly, except for the one lightsaber being left on the planet

[@FAHCORE]

@@imperiumcommentingnetwork4677 and color of sabers, Rex already removing his chip... just wondering if most of a book can be considered canon if not all of it. Does it cheapen written canon if Disney can later pick and choose what's still relevant in this new age of SW when it's covered on plus or the big screen?

[@sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902]

any news on the streams returning?

[@Ajs_Sandwich]

Caught them lacking smh They didn't give the shoto saber for the ahsoka novel cover art 🤦‍♂️

[@Drew_Thompson]

Anakin is the key to everything. If he says that exact line in the show they wrote that whole plot with plinkett in mind, even though mike says he refuses to watch the cartoons.

[@Adam_X78]

The craziest and stupidest thing mall ever said maul was going to kill Anakin and Obi-Wan He must have been smoking some crack over the past three years of the clone wars

[@God_abandoned_us_all]

Didn't he want to make alliance with Obi-wan ,tell him about the vision and prevent the order 66 from happening, by killing Vader? Probably I'm wrong. And if am I tell me, because I don't want to be wrong any minute longer.

[@Adam_X78]

Napoleon Bonaprokurature Sorry I took so long Basically mauls Plan was to rob The emperor Of his student by killing him If Anakin was going by himself Maybe he could have turned him to the Dark side But Obi-Wan was going to be there So if he killed Obi-Wan Anakin Would have destroyed maul And I don’t think Obi-Wan Would work with maul his Plan is very flawed

[@thehighground7926]

Maul is actually the most honest person on the clone wars. I would really like to know at least 1 time Maul lied to anyone.

[@ver7175]

Maul never lied in the clone wars series he knew he's former masters plan was to groom Anakin Skywalker since episode 1

[@Mars-ev7qg]

So why couldn't ashoka sense Yoda, Obi Wan or any other order 66 survivor in the force

[@pezpowerproductions2602]

Maybe they “shut themselves out” from the force like Palpatine does?

[@general8191]

@@pezpowerproductions2602 most likely this. Otherwise they would've been found fast if they didn't.

[@pezpowerproductions2602]

@@general8191 I think tests the case, I mean idk if the Fallen Jedi game is cannon but even the chick in there does it, must not be so hard to do.

[@jpeezy6273]

Bruh I had a stroke trying to read the title

[@_anterix_2953]

It’s fine wdym

[@LordSStorm]

What I didn’t like about the whole thing is that she accepts everything else he says as true, but then decides he is lying about this. She refuses to listen to the Force to determine whether he is truthful, just like the Jedi did to her. Ironically it was the Sith who most often told the truth, and the Jedi who refused to believe it out of their own failures.

[@jacobschlenker8130]

I think she did know the truth, but she was just in denial because of how much she cared about Anakin.

[@jonathanball8237]

I still find it difficult to swallow that Order 66 achieved such Absolute destruction of the Jedi Order.... Its record what 200-300 survivors out of 10,000+ Jedi as the Clone Wars started (According to _BEN KENOBI_ !) day the war had disastrously killed a third to a half... that still leaves 5000 plus! You’re telling me some Jedi hadn’t had enough of the path the order had taken like Ahsoka? I always thought that an idea of 500plus ?800 just split from the order before the war ended because of how the Jedi was acting... Maybe left the core worlds and left the systems to go into the unknown space... 👍👍👍

[@manz7860]

Obi wan heard a rumor Some tried to regroup to push back the empire. but vader ultimately hunted them down.

[@themasked_senshi4521]

What if ahsoka became an inquisitor!!!

[@59rlmccormack]

Huh, interesting!

[@captainthunderjrjdharra4364]

Has Rain a Father? Extreme Maxims and Humidty

[@user-zx2eh6qg2t]

They should’ve changed the timeline... soo much unused potential!

[@captainthunderjrjdharra4364]

I am no Sith .... I am no Jedi either 😁

[@Adam_X78]

Howdy everyone

[@loganfore]

Howdy

[@Adam_X78]

Logan Forrester howdy Partner!

[@lordbyron3603]

Yeah ... Ahsoka realized she messed up royally ! She didn’t treat Maul as her equal and never the respect that he deserved. Even a villain is deserving of a certain kind of deference. She just though he was beneath her!

[@lordbyron3603]

Her instincts told her the truth ... but she ignored them. She heard the truth , but her mind refused to believe it. She lied to herself .... which is uncharacteristically not Ashoka. Her ties to Anakin run deep. They have a Yin & Yang connection.

[@sarahconnor2129]

Your always treating these videos like a school essay. You repeat the point repeatedly and try to make your lines as long as possible

[@philheier6345]

But weren't the voices she heard on the Venator-Bridge in Season 7 a proof that Maul was correct. I mean Ahsoka heard the voice of Anakin how he said ,,What have I done? " This indicates that he must have become evil. Didn't Ahsoka see that?

[@jeangentry6656]

but she doesn't know what those voices mean. Hearing Anakin say "What have I done?" wouldn't tell her much.

[@philheier6345]

@@jeangentry6656 But it could have told her that Anakin had made a decision he regretted and that he hated himself for it. Maybe it wasn't an exact proof but it was at least a hint to what might have happened to Anakin. Ahsoka just needed to put the pieces together to come to the right conclusion. I Think this is not hard to do even though Ahsoka had problems with believing, that Anakin would ever turn evi as we know by her reaction of Maul's prophecy according to which Anakin will become Sidious' Sith-Apprentice.

[@Eric-kb2xt]

The Ahsoka novel is not a good source considering how much of it was tossed in the garbage by the final season of Clone Wars. Who is to say the rest isn’t going to be scrapped also.

[@LaMASIA-5611]

This is why i don’t like some of the written. Due to the relationship built in the clone wars. Its very unlikely that Asoka would just “conclude” anakin died due to the purge. She would want to find out what happened with her old friends even if she was in hiding, just as Anakin would do anything to find out what happened to padme or obi wan if they where to die. She’s also a female . Girls want to know and will find out what they need to know. Lmaoo. I love Asoka, she’s by far the greatest character that happens to be a female in Star Wars, but she was almost as completely delusional as the Jedi if you think she just accepted anakins defeat. Especially after everything Maul told her. Both her and the Jedi where fools. Let’s stay consistent on. Denial is both toxic and powerful. Also on a side note, obi wan saw the atrocities that anakin committed against the Jedi. Asoka didn’t cause she was always in denial. Obi wan and Yoda had all the right to believe anakin was gone. You clowns that think they’re fools for not trying to convert anakin back are idiots. He was a major threat that needed to be dealt with. Idk why u internet clowns try to blame the Jedi for absolutely everything. You’ve become hyve minded. 😪

[@sirpaul7000]

ASHOKA IS NOW ALSO TO BLAME FOR ORDER 66. SHE HAD TOO MANY TIMES TO TELL OBIWAN OR ANAKIN OR FUCKIN ANYONE SEVERAL HUGE ASS TIMES!!!!!

[@timurjack8773]

Ahsoka is too naive.

[@jackasaw9750]

Pretty sure the novel isn’t cannon

[@ttv_rageking-poo302]

Nise vido

[@randolphdefreese7874]

Sith dont lie

[@theeternalempire8471]

Really 43 people come on y’all Ik more than 43 people watched this video

[@paulzy5192]

I love your channel, but dude, could you please stop rambling and repeating stuff unnecessarily??😁 P.S. - Keep up the great work.👍👍

[@capybara2671]

But Anakin was killed during order 66..... from a certain point of view.

[@imperiumcommentingnetwork4677]

Anakin had the high ground on Mustafar, from a certain point of view

[@marcomcdowell8861]

It's plot armor. Anakin turned into a completely different person huh. Nah, Anakin Skywalker murdered kids and partook in the destruction of billions. Slapping a mask on and changing your name doesn't change you or absolve you. Force ghost my bum. Vader is Anakin, Anakin is Vader. Storytelling makes it that they're two different people, but Vader remembers Anakin's life experiences. Even Sidious, Dooku, Ren, Plageius and so on didn't turn into new people. They've clearly maintained connections with their past. This is merely plot armor to move the story along lol. Ahsoka has a strong bond, spends years with a dude, wife and Kenobi yet doesn't notice a shift lol. Plot armor I tell ya. More powerful than any wizardry.

[@TheOneVoxel]

Ahsoka is pretty stupid for not joining maul

[@sharifmansour9678]

Are you a Nemoidian? Cuz you sound like a Nemoidian.

[@jasonknightmagic1]

Anakin fought 20 storm troopers in the clone wars lol y’all catch that

[@harrambou9468]

No....she didn’t find out until just before the Battle of Malachor

[@rabbaniazzahra1784]

im the 1000 liker XD