Did an Optical illusion help the Carpathia locate the Titanic survivors?

[@tysoncutler3630]

I'm inclined to believe the 1960's story, in 1912 Boxhall had his whole life ahead of him and the perception of him abandoning people to die even though saving them could have killed everyone in the lifeboat could have terrible consequence for him. In the 60's he was nearing the end of his life and wouldn't have cared.

[@trevorbluesquirrel899]

Video ideas! 1. How many valuables went down still in the purser's office safe? 2. Did the watertight door compartment light up screen seen in the movie really exist? 3. How much of the furniture and other large items were bolted down within the ship? 4. How many people went to the hospital during the voyage, and for what?

[@91MustangLX]

I've been watching videos on ocean liners for 10 years now on KZbin. I'm not knocking other creators, but you make them all look like they're sitting still. Your videos are accurate, honest, and very enjoyable! Keep up ypur great work, it's been great watching your channel grow.

[@CutthroatKing]

I want to see a comparison between the Titanic’s “safety” features and those of the new cruise ships

[@JesusismySaviour33]

Ooh that would be pretty cool comparing what we have today and what they had in 1912

[@gladbags23]

Sam should really do a video on the Titanic.

[@Shadooe]

HAHA By "on" do you mean "about" the Titanic, or actually "on" the Titanic? I think he'd be pretty quick to say yes to a dive to her.

[@Hard-Boiled-Bollock]

I know, anyone would think he couldn't care less about it

[@gladbags23]

Haha definitely about the Titanic but on the Titanic. Sam would gain so many subscribers if he did that.

[@hundredandten]

@@gladbags23 Agreed.

[@drunkenblacklocustbushcraf2857]

It's on his list.

[@danieldoo1821]

Captain ordering; " Get your lifeboat back to the ship! Do whatever the hell you can to row that teeny tiny lifeboat all the way to the stern Yes from there all the way to the stern ( of a ship that was the biggest and largest in 1912 ) , go around the stern, to the starboard side, and attempt to RUSH the lifeboat to an open door in the hull that you MAY or MAY NOT be able to reach. DO IT QUICKLY ! The sinking is accelerating ! " Gosh I can imagine the stress and fear of the officers in the lifeboats.

[@makemake5317]

Sam is the best he might think im lieing im not its so true you've taught me alot about titanic sam thank you so much i reall do love your content and ir live streams thare great because i can talk to u and everyone else Thanks so much sam keep up the amazing work and se nse u love jokes what do u Call A Titanic on wheels... A motannic!!

[@christiannedebiasi381]

I couldn’t agree more with this comment if I tried. It is so nice to share a common interest with so many people, even new enthusiasts. 😉

[@brandedswdsman]

I agree, fellow Titanic enthusiast.

[@freecontent4306]

Hm not bad joke

[@allen8959]

OMG YOU GOT OUR QUESTION!!! My kids are gonna be so happy to see this, thank you!!! :D

[@patriotforlife6592]

Your content NEVER disappoints my friend. Always so informed and easy to understand. Keep up the good work Sam

[@thepandorica1428]

I really never comment on videos but I've watched so freaking much of the Historic Travels page (sometimes even twice on videos) I just wanted to say that this may be one of my favorite channels with coverage on the Titanic. I love the way things get explained and I never get tired of hearing iterations of information being explained. Sam is awesome at this. Keep up the good work my dude.

[@trevorbluesquirrel899]

Video ideas! 1. The life and career of Captain Smith until The Titanic disaster! 2. The lifeboat that only had 12 aboard!? Like, why!? 3. Why so few staff of the Al A Carte Restaurant survived! 4. Design differences of Olympic and Titanic, Promenade decks, Turkish Baths, Cafe, etc....

[@johnkoho1245]

The Queen Mary is in need of 100+ million in repairs. They are debating about getting the repairs done, or sinking her at sea... Can you do a video on Mary and this topic?

[@_JustAnotherTheatreKid_]

I can't believe I came here a while ago to watch just a random recommended by him to me, and now I'm hooked on his videos. Love your videos Sam! Spectacular work!

[@TheHipHopolypse]

SAM- You need to create a T-Shirt for you’re merch store of the Titanic in a nutshell. Just a round shell completely clear with titanic inside of it lol it’s you’re favorite phrase! You say “in a nutshell” 2-3 Times per vid braaahh lol #facts

[@spencers4346]

sam is truly one of the best if not the best person to go to if you like watching about interest things like ships personally i feel like a lot of people can relate to his content because it goes so into detail about every detail in the topic he teaches you about also i love his titanic series the most and the series of videos put into a documentary about the titanic cause it was april by the way i love ur vids it teaches me so much thank you sam keep up the work

[@Keviniscool22]

I absolutely love your stuff man , huge fan your stuff is amazing

[@countrystrongist]

You really are a scholar of the Titanic! If one could earn a PHD in this, you would have.

[@johnthemachine]

I wonder if the temperature difference between the gulf steam and cold Labrador made the hull brittle. Id be interested to hear you discuss how much damage titanic would've sustained if the water temperature hadn't changed so abruptly before the collision. All hypothetical of course.

[@dylancloud97]

Wouldn't make a difference unless the change happened instantly

[@rickjensen2717]

Would not have affected the hull at all in this case - would have to be a much larger temperature change (over at least +- 50°C) and over a very short time period (seconds).

[@fletchy88]

He already addressed this exact concept in a previous video...

[@jp-legal]

Maybe this mirage effect played a role too, concerning the distance to the "mystery ship", and so it seemed nearer on the false horizon than it was.

[@DieLaus01]

^Exactly my thinking it would explain why so many people saw a ship even if it was not that close than people claimed.

[@silverline4131]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5jZq6euabWCnrM

[@jp-legal]

@@silverline4131 I spoke deliberately of the "mystery ship", but not of the Californian as the vid you linked because the description of the eyewitnesses do not match the Californian, not in direction of sight, not in position, not in crew behavior... which cannot be explained just by a mirage effect. There is a very good book by Thomas Williams "Titanic and the Californian" which sheds light on these mismatches.

[@sydneygilmore7872]

I absolutely love your videos and hope you continue making them. Here’s a video idea: the story of the Carpathia. Such as her trying to find Titanic or when she sank

[@andrewmwells9606]

Hi HT, I have a question. How did the Titanic have a glass dome for the grand staircase when on the outside it looks like a square gridded skylight??

[@RocknRollSandra]

Hey man, I'm new to your channel. I've been into ships and maritime stuff for a couple of years now and recently interested a lot in the Estonia and the new investigations on her sinking. So KZbin's been suggesting me a lot of your videos lately. They're really well made and fascinating. I'm learning so many new facts. Thank you! Keep up the good work! And include Rosie more often please 🙂

[@kmlevel]

The "false horizon" effect you explained happens regularly when flying. The Bay Area is notorious for it with cold air moving in off the bay creating low sea fog over the runway. This can be very disorienting, and definitely adds more context! Thanks Sam! Example: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGSqn6OZgrV4iKc

[@aydeejusto972]

i just watched this while eating a bowl of ramen. this is how u know this is a good youtuber

[@canucksplacehighlights1989]

Do a what if video if the titanic was hit by that liner in Southampton at the beginning of its voyage. Just found your channel and I love it! Keep making great content!

[@stevenkelley9096]

Bro I love yr content yr a great story teller just one suggestion can you please do some of the great submarine disasters.

[@jonnywyattgreengreen3301]

Hi Sam, I agree with you , very good idea. There's so much of Titanic l simpy don't know before watching your videos. I have watched 10 of videos in last few days. I have ordered the sea of glass book you talk about . Thank.you relighting my passion for Titanic again , looking forward seeing the upcoming videos and reading that book .

[@yrrah123]

Honestly this is guy has the best KZbin channel around I spend ages watching his videos in bed before sleeping .

[@ktrain2334]

Hey Sam, video idea. I seemed to notice you don’t have a video for the R.M.S Carpathia itself, maybe do a video on that I’d really like to hear about it. Also great job on the Edmund Fitzgerald 🤓

[@MovieMaker-hw1uy]

I love the work Sam that you have been putting in to your videos for years! :D You and Rachel are some of my favorite you tubers! :D

[@AgentBirdnest]

Whoa! Really awesome theory! Sounds totally plausible (to a newbie like myself who doesn't know anything about sea travel. :-P But I'm learning more thanks to you, Sam!) It seemed really well-researched. Awesome video. And as my first comment on your channel - I just want to say that it's an absolute joy to watch every one of your videos, Sam. The passion you have for your subjects really shows, and literally makes my day to see someone enjoying making videos so much. :-) I'll be supporting your channel soon, when I get my next check, and once I decide what cool item to buy. :-D

[@RMSLiam]

Sam could you do a video on the sinking of the carpathia

[@Hard-Boiled-Bollock]

This channel should have been called 'Titanic Guru With Some Other History Stuff' (I like the channel by the way, just messin')

[@schizomonika]

Wait almost 50k? Congrats! Come quite a ways since the start of the year!

[@ThexEpicxMechanic]

It's interesting about the cold air mirage effect, that we only figured this out over 100 years later. The documentary that figured it out went through ships logs in the area the night of the disaster. Many of which mentioned refraction happening. They knew that the horizon couldn't be trusted. Historians and buffs alike didn't figure it out for so long. Fascinating really. Fun fact about the false horizon, it will lift lit things as well, stretching flat land to look like cliffs, and low tankers to look super tall like a cargo ship. So, makes sense it put the flare a few degrees above the horizon.

[@kymh82]

100% my go to channel - soooo interesting

[@bobbylovins6152]

Love these videos! Thank you Sam.

[@grahamhulse6622]

You’re the man Sam! Just discovered your channel and I’ve been a huge fan of the Titanic for years. You’ve taught me a lot that I didn’t know!

[@cnmaritimehistory]

Sam, could you do a video on Patriot's Point? It is an area in Mount Pleasant, SC. where there are three museum ships, the USS Yorktown, the USS Laffey, and the USS Clamagore.

[@simpjournaal6854]

Hey, I'm new here but im already a big fan of your channel and I saw you're video about you're sisters birthday and I was so sad cuz I was late, but still a week late Happy birthday to your sister!

[@HistoricTravels]

Thanks for subbing!

[@HistoricTravels]

And Thanks for wishing her happy birthday!

[@simpjournaal6854]

@@HistoricTravels np the first video I watched was so relaxing and clear that I didn't have to think twice to subscribe

[@laurenyoung1119]

Why did the ship's stern sink differently in your video's compared to Jame's Cameron's movie? I love your channel by the way, so informative and has answered so many of my questions.

[@TheFarmerfitz]

The theory in the movie is not correct... Watch a video called James Cameron - The final word... He teams up with a whole Buchanan of forensic experts that investigate the sinking as they would an airline crash... And they came up with a slightly different break up theory that actually makes sense when paired up with eye witness testimony given from survivors... He said it's different than the movie, but there's no real point to change it and it would be very costly....lol

[@scottrichards5213]

Hi Sam I love your videos on Titanic story am learning alot from them. Have a question vfor U the painos on Titanic did they survived if so any photos of what they look like now. Could U do a video on if there's anything left on the lower decks. Scotty

[@johnnyfairbank5281]

Sam, keep making content, I’ve been watching your channel for a while now, and your content is very professionally made, exceptionally entertaining and engaging. Keep doing what you are doing, and you will blow up. You have what it takes, just give it time.

[@clairefunnell8481]

I think your theory is very possible. Loving your Titanic videos and theories. So many questions about her that have no answers. Thanks for another entertaining video.

[@buhbuhjaychampagne1706]

Great stuff Sam. Keep up the great work. I’ve been binge watching all ur Titanic material!!!!!!

[@iffinland9321]

Have you done video about M/S Estonia Sinking?

[@hollykacz1958]

Your videos are awesome!!!

[@joemotes]

Another great video, Thanks.

[@christopherwhite542]

You are amazing bro! I never thought of that! I’ll never watch 97 scene with green flare without that thought! Have you ever considered the sheer size of titanic just pushed the berg during impact before they could turn it as portrayed in movie

[@adamalucard4655]

Video idea: What do you think would happen if California actually went to the rescue on time?Because the ship is not so big,I wonder how much help could it have been...

[@christinedeleon6531]

Curious why Captain Smith ordered Boxhall to take lifeboat 2 around the stern of the ship and then forward again to the gangway door. Wouldn't the trip have taken less time around the bow even though the bow was under water? Really enjoy your videos!

[@Ceege48]

Video idea what if they counter flooded in order to offset the weight then the weight of the stern with the engine and some water from a counter food could have offset the weight in the front.

[@isaaccastillo5080]

Hey Sam, I love your content! I suggest you do a video (or video series if you will) on what happened at both sides of the Atlantic after the sinking of the Titanic? From the shock and disbelieve of the public on the first few days, the suffering and grievance of the families who lost a loved one, the public shaming to White Star Line and the court trials that derivated from the incident. It would be very interesting to learn from that! Anyway keep up the good work man!

[@nitrorule7191]

Is it possible that you would cover military ships, like the German battleship Bismarck ?

[@phildernerjr]

Newer subscriber...I just wanted to say I'm very impressed with your content. Great knowledge, very digestible, and always fascinating. Thank you!!

[@HistoricTravels]

Much appreciated!

[@chvfd687]

Would the haze be caused by the intermixing of the warm Gulf Stream and cold labrador currents? Like steam from a hot road from a cool rain.

[@MySafetyisntHere]

Hey Sam, I know you don't do wartime vessels (at least I don't think) but could you do the U.S.S Arizona? Thanks!

[@alfred4194]

Keep up the great work!

[@derweibhai]

Wow Sam, almost 50k, nice work!!!!!

[@Feiterfeir-1]

Maybe a videos already out on it but I wonder What an average passenger of the 1st class, 2nd class, and 3rd class experienced throughout the Titanic sinking.

[@iamgeobomb5969]

Question: Would the Titanic have sank faster if Captain Smith hadn’t ordered the Titanic’s propellers to be turned off?

[@counterfeit1148]

Probably, the water would have been pushed in faster if the ship kept moving forward

[@nathanielcarver1272]

I love your videos man

[@briannaw716]

Its funny because in the movie the ship wasn't leaning port side it was sinking forward...I felt so bad for the survivors i know they were FREEZING !!

[@MSB3000]

No idea if this is the right place to propose video ideas/ask questions, but: what if the Titanic didn't sink? What if she had survived into WW1 like her sister ships? What if the world hadn't revised safety regulations due to the disaster?

[@TorontoJediMaster]

Lifeboat #2 was one of the two "Emergency" Boats the ship had. They were smaller than the other wooden boats (they could hold forty people versus sixty-five) and were kept permanently uncovered and swung out. (They were, as as the term implies, kept that way for a sudden emergency such as someone overboard.) Boxhall had the ship's latitude more or less correct. The longitude (which had to be determined by a rather complex formula involving calculations of the ship's time versus GMT) was where he was off by about 12 miles. However, it was close enough to bring rescue ships to the vicinity. I tend to believe his 1912 version about the gangway doors. The incident would've still been fresh in his mind then. By the 1960's, some fifty years would have passed since the sinking. His memory likely wasn't as sharp and his recollections may have been altered by reading of other accounts.

[@mikadothefox4014]

Hey historic travels you should do a video on the German battleship the Bismarck and the British battleship the hood

[@alfredosoto8253]

Nice video mate!

[@gailwatson4927]

Sorry I missed the premiere. Thanks for the facts Sam.

[@M.L._l97]

Love your videos! Can't wait for more great content from you. 👍🏻

[@loritalbot3063]

I think your theory is spot on. I love photography and have spent many hours on the shore of lake Ontario taking pictures and got quite a few great shots of cold water mirages . It's a fascinating subject. Its amazing how drastically different things can look from day to day .

[@Lunarpollo5622]

10:37 seems to me that sam was a bit hungry one day and bit off the rudder on his model

[@FjongFleron]

Where do I join your discord? I really want to join as I have always been super interested in titanic and I want to be apart of your amazing community

[@GungeonPro]

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[@Sinky-06]

Grate vid 👍🏻👍🏻 would you do a video on s.s lancastria

[@nadinecartwright1979]

It's incredible that the water becomes dangerously cold at less that 60 to 70 degrees F!!

[@adamalucard4655]

Sam,maybe you can consider make a T-shirt,with Titanic printed below, and above says "Sam says:you see..." lol

[@Lufthansa631]

Are you going to do a series on Lusitania like the Titanic?

[@macahitt]

I had always wondered how Carpathia could see the lights and/or flares/rockets of Titanic from the distance they were separated. Thanks!

[@KomodogodX]

So, I've got a question that may or may not be relevant to what you discuss here, and its a question related to something I just learned about yesterday. Scientist claim that during January of 1912 the full moon was closer to Earth at one point, and the result from that was some powerful waves that knocked into icy landscapes near Canada, and they believe that the resulting impacts created the ice field that the Titanic sailed through. Is that at all accurate?

[@GrahamSlam]

Do you script these videos? You're a great story teller.

[@HistoricTravels]

Nope

[@automechs360]

It actually seems possible. Cold air can affect how you see things just like with hot air. I live in Alabama and the roads can look wet just from the heat. Black ice seems to support the theory due to ice enlarging the item it lays across.

[@chvfd687]

I live in Alabama as well. Where are you if I may ask?

[@automechs360]

@@chvfd687 Huntsville.

[@cameronjarvis4828]

If the Titanic would not have put engines in reverse upon seeing the iceberg, would it have turned enough to miss the it? Was putting engines in reverse an overall bad move?

[@Voltaire5482]

BTW YOUR THE BEST HISTORY KZbinR

[@superlaser6000]

Question for Sam - Which lifeboat had the most passengers, and which had the fewest? What was the average? And, if all of the lifeboats were launched and loaded to their absolute maximum capacity (even overloaded) how many total passengers could have survived? Thanks, Austin

[@scottwalker4619]

There were 16 (I think) lifeboats and fully loaded they could hold 70 people. So a little over 1000 would have been saved. I think lifeboat number 6 only had around 20 people in it

[@scottfreedom9845]

Sam is also a great teacher!! Thanks again. The cold water mirage explanation ,alone, proves the world is round. (For all those flat earthers out there😂)

[@volvo1354]

the Titanic lies in 12,000 feet of water, where the p.s.i. is around 6,500 pounds of pressure. do you know how long it took a submersible to reach the debris field?

[@livingadreamlife1428]

Passengers in lifeboats and in the water reported seeing the Carpethia relatively close by.

[@lilynettegingerbuck4089]

I believe the second story of the gangway being open ... It sometimes take a while for people to bring out the truth .. and also maybe he didn't want to say that in 1912 because people would look down on him as an officer who was to save lives

[@johannalehto9154]

Thank you again for a great video! I always learn something new by watching your videos. I never knew the story about life boat nr. 2 before!

[@ladytharpofhastings]

This a great theory. I have never heard of it before. You do a good job with your videos. They are excellent.

[@thebitsanpiecesman4423]

I love falling asleep to this stuff it makes me have weird dreams! But cool nonetheless 😊

[@vanesa9657]

Same..this channel is simply awesome!

[@deaj8450]

It's amazing that 3 days ago I never gave the Titanic a second thought and now I've gone through quite a lot of your videos on all these different shipwrecks, consistently compelled to find out more. It's truly one of the most terrifying deaths imaginable because of how inevitable it seems and how long it can take at times. It gets me wondering how I might survive each scenario, and what might be the easiest death if all was lost. I'd probably rather be on the Fitzgerald than say the Empress for instance, simply because the men on the Fitzgerald probably died instantly due to pressure. Great content.

[@Tanner737]

Question. Would you want to be on the titanic that night? With knowing what you know.

[@Tanner737]

I would love to see if I could live

[@barlmax4095]

4:30 checkmate flat earthers 😂 great video!

[@TheFarmerfitz]

Yes I think it's a very possible theory.. Other ships that night were reporting "much refraction" Which produces cold water mirages...

[@jetsons101]

The rivets for the Titanic, I have read, came from a iron works east of Manchester UK in the Medlock Valley. If I remember right it was called Park Bridge ironworks founded in 1786.

[@stevenhale2935]

I'll have to look into this!!

[@jetsons101]

@@stevenhale2935 If I remember right the rivets for the Eiffel Tower also, It's been a long time since I came across the info.

[@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165]

I believe thw second story. Theres no way he would admit to backing up right after the tragedy. He'd be called a coward.

[@SkyKing58318]

VIDEO IDEA (unless you've already done it...): What if the Titanic sailed slowly toward the light in the distance? Why didn't anyone think of this? What would have been the result? One possibility is Captain Lord wouldn't have been a villain...

[@AndyCrute07]

Watching your what if titanic hadn't broke in two video. Curious if you can expand on what you think the wreak would be like now. How well do you think it would have held together hitting the seabed

[@MasterBritannicJess]

Can you make video have Titanic relly sunk

[@BimDaTitanicNerd]

great theory. I learned titanic stuffs again 😂