Did Athena help Medusa?

[@moonthehuman]

What I have learned from this: Athena was victim blamer and Hestia is the least problematic of _all_ of the Olympians

[@michaelwinchester5003]

That's only true from a certain mythological view. You see, the whole story of Medusa, Poseidon, and Athena was written by Ovid, a guy who likes writing stories about the Greek gods fucking with humanity. In other versions of the Medusa myths, Medusa was always a horrible monsters

[@gabrieldossantossanta5656]

@@michaelwinchester5003 in some of them, she was a beautiful woman, she and her two sisters try to cover what happened betwen she and Posseidon, and all thre where condened to be monsters

[@wouldntyouliketoknowweathe19]

Well then there is hades and persephone too...

[@idoitforthememes6011]

@@wouldntyouliketoknowweathe19 Persephone cheated on Hades with Adonis for three months a year

[@wouldntyouliketoknowweathe19]

@@idoitforthememes6011 can you tell me more about it?...

[@HighLordoftheBathroom]

And this is why Lady Hestia is one of the best Olympians.

[@soliasstar4640]

I hate her in the anime danmachi but love her in mythology

[@peterglade1803]

Damn Straight

[@dariuscahyadi9607]

Hestia is the bestia pog???

[@thegoodlifechoices9309]

@@soliasstar4640 your opinion is incorrect. Lady hestia is always bestia

[@playstoreuser7472]

Actually, Medusa/gorgon is a goddess. She is not just a girl. She is actually a goddess of beauty,lust, and youth just like her other two sister Stheno and euryale.

[@pgallagher100]

Hestia is the only sane one

[@casparjackson4075]

Yes

[@thatonepercyjacksonfan4786]

Don't forget Dionysus.

[@AngryHistorian87]

@@thatonepercyjacksonfan4786 and Hades

[@agenti4734]

@@thatonepercyjacksonfan4786 eh. He isn't great but pretty ok.

[@jerryokazaki8626]

Unless we talk about her in the anime how to pick up girls on a dungeon and see she's as thirsty as the rest of them

[@kimberlykenyon9440]

In earlier myths Medusa was actually born as a gorgon, the myth was changed a bit to make the gods look like humans were nothing but playthings to them

[@TheMythologyGuy1]

Yep

[@artimuos903]

Blame Ovid for that.

[@girlinred373]

Covid without the c

[@yem3321]

It’s not even an ancient Greek myth, it’s a modern one

[@trla6505]

@@yem3321 modern roman

[@katiealbright1974]

For the goddess of wisdom, Athena has some strange ideas

[@oceanberserker]

She's her father's daughter more than her mother's. What do you expect when you have to go through ZEUS' gray matter on the way out of being born?

[@finchbird2419]

Wisdom, not intellige- I realize that I should not continue that statement or her rath be upon me

[@urfavginga5765]

@@finchbird2419 very wise. Very wise.

[@triplenike2753]

She just wanted a monster head for her shield.

[@debugempty]

Look. A head on a shield is pretty cool.

[@katcat362]

We Stan Hestia for keeping her sanity when this is her family

[@aliddda328]

Especially with zues in control

[@BlueJayBaby]

Again, really weird to hear “ATHENA!” While being named after her

[@jennifermckinley9285]

I knew a chick whose name was Athena.

[@65firered]

Kratos: "ATHENA!"

[@oceanberserker]

@Lollipop love True. But she's still not one of the better Olympians.

[@oceanberserker]

@Lollipop love 'Channeling Tywin Lannister': "THAT'S NOT AN OPINION, THAT'S A FACT!"

[@oceanberserker]

@Lollipop love Real mature there, brat. Least I can have a little fun with some of Charles Dance's most iconic lines. And by the by, 🖕🖕🖕. See, I can do it too, you're not special, etc, etc., he said sarcastically.

[@emaguiar6430]

I found this channel yesterday and this is by far the best stuff on my feed

[@TheMythologyGuy1]

Em Aguiar That’s wonderful to know. Thank you

[@talimbeingaverythriftyghor5967]

_stan auntie hestia_

[@CJCroen1393]

This kinda thing is why I prefer the older versions where Medusa wasn't transformed at all and was just always a scary -hot- monster. That and the very notion of Athena victim-blaming a victim of assault is proven wrong by earlier texts where she viciously punished Ajax the Lesser for assaulting Cassandra.

[@geekweek9673]

Yeah. Blame Ovid. Also, how else are you going to explain Stheno and Euryale?

[@fairyflight8436]

This video is based off Ovid's retelling. His version features the higher power yanking on mortal lives like pupets on strings. His own banishemnt may have helped this viewpoint.

[@meedabuhuh3084]

#LetsPleaseCancelOvid the man hated Athena for no reason. In most stories where she's the villain, they're by Ovid, not a Greek. Arachne is the same - Athena originally blessed Arachne after she was cursed by Zeus

[@augustusfreeman4032]

She punished Ajax because Cassandra was her priestess not because she was against assault or anything like that.

[@meedabuhuh3084]

@@augustusfreeman4032 Cassandra was a refugee of Troy (the city Athena literally hated), not a priestess of Athena. She punished Ajax the Lesser because of what he did.

[@InsanityVirus]

Hestia and Hades, the chilliest 2 of all the Gods lmao

[@_-drowsy-_]

I mean Hypnos is literally the god of chill lol Don’t forget him

[@NAVEMAN3]

Don't forget Hephestus. He ain't perfect, but compared to the rest of the roster, he ain't that bad.

[@mollymcmurtrie8037]

Also, don't forget Hecate

[@loushia16]

“I would never do anything to hurt that woman” You’ve done EVERYTHING to hurt this woman

[@SDayle]

"I ran out of stickers and I've heard that dead heads are all the rage, these days." - Athena, probably

[@ladypossum1776]

*Arachne cries in the corner*

[@Huxley_Day]

Arachne said the truth and they hated her for it.

[@rocktheconqueror6903]

​@@Huxley_Day she was arrogant

[@Huxley_Day]

@@rocktheconqueror6903 That's not an excuse to turn someone into a spider. Not to mention she beat Athena in a contest, that's pretty outstanding for a mortal. It's in human nature to want attention and I'm pretty sure beating a god at something would make them prideful.

[@rocktheconqueror6903]

@@Huxley_Day being arrogant and winning in fair contest are not same

[@ElizaGrav]

There’s an alternate interpretation of this myth, where Athena knew Poseidon would be angered if she didn’t “punish” Medusa, so to protect her from future attempts to assault her, she gave her the power to turn men to stone. Athena, after her death, was so saddened that it just made her a target, that she put her head on her shield to inflict her wrath on men. This is why some women’s abuse shelters have Medusa’s head as an emblem.

[@mariaathena7910]

Perseus cut the head and gave it as gift to Athena cause Athena helped him to defeat her by doing the mirror/shield thing!!!!

[@moondivine2288]

That interpretation makes zero sense to me because Athena helped Perseus kill her. I thought it was the Athens version because they don’t want their Patreon goddess put in a bad light

[@mariaathena7910]

@@moondivine2288 no we Athenians say the version I just mentioned

[@zionnemakoma1398]

It's possible she realised her mistake, and helped Perseus, purely to put her out of her misery

[@stevefilms1997]

@@mariaathena7910 but Athenians don’t have internet they were a prehistoric society

[@stanfordfeynman2796]

“Athena, this is exactly why I associate you with war instead of wisdom. You’re an absolute halfwit.” -Hestia

[@Tomas-qk5fy]

You mean Zeus I can't imagine Hestia saying that unless she's angry

[@stanfordfeynman2796]

@@Tomas-qk5fy I mean… she has every reason to be angry when it comes to a topic like this lol

[@Tomas-qk5fy]

@@stanfordfeynman2796 she wouldn't insult she'd just be disappointed

[@stanfordfeynman2796]

@@Tomas-qk5fy ok

[@Tomas-qk5fy]

@@stanfordfeynman2796 besides that time to roast Athena Shes nothing but an Ares with braincells

[@graveyardshift2100]

Athena: Now nobody will want to force themselves on her. Me: I would like to show the goddess our internet.

[@alexanderzhmurov9624]

I wonder which of those deities would end up being responsible for the internet...

[@alexanderzhmurov9624]

I wonder which of those deities would end up being responsible for the internet...

[@zephyrerazortail5478]

​@@alexanderzhmurov9624 Zeus. We live in the age of electricity. XD

[@melvinathemagnificent9007]

"No, you don't understand! Now that she's dead, no one will try to force themselves on her. Problem solved! You're welcome 😇"

[@MaidenOfDread]

Athena's logic is the same as, "Did you see what she was wearing? She was asking for it!"

[@mikeakersa8566]

Medusa is a unique case for Athena. For us, we could interpret Athena's actions as punishment but it would be more in line with deterrence. Technically Athena did help her.

[@oceanberserker]

Ah, technicalities. The always convenient shield for cowards since ever.

[@rururururururrurururururur6038]

Was Athena also helping Arachne when she turned her into a spider for being better at weaving than her? Or was Athena just jealous there was someone more beautiful than her?

[@Shiobana753]

@@rururururururrurururururur6038 Athena doesn't care about beauty, she was angry at Arachne for insulting her family.... Even though Arachne was 100% right.

[@colt9836]

@@rururururururrurururururur6038 ??? In the originals myth, you do know that Athena bested Arachne, right? The former has literally divine authority over weaving; nothing can best her. After realizing that Arachne wasn't as excellent as she thought, she hung herself. The Goddess of War took pity upon the woman and transformed her into a spider. The whole point of the myth was to explain that hubris is vain and why spiders spin webs. Don't know why you're so angry over a myth that's older than your bloodline.

[@mdmroni7269]

One of the most stupid argument i have ever heard..Technically she eliminated someone she was jealous off

[@71723]

You sure Athena's not related to Hera?

[@louisepepino872]

She is. Athena is a daughter of Zeus (not from Hera because its Zeus) so Hera is her aunt. On a related note, Zeus is Hera's brother as well as husband. Greek mythology is... special

[@HighLordoftheBathroom]

@@louisepepino872 Well, yeah, from that perspective, yes. But since the Gods don't have DNA, from a biological perspective, they aren't related.

[@lbui4222]

@@louisepepino872 Yes...special

[@DatLeo47]

@@louisepepino872 so well technically, Zeus and her are from alabama

[@viperakmal]

Athena's is from Metis if I'm not mistaken... Zeus's wife before Hera. But there is a prophecy that a male child will be born and dethrone Zeus just like how Zeus did to his dad, Kronos... Zeus swallow his pregnant wife, Metis and she gave birth to Athena in which pop out from Zeus head fully grown up. 😅😅😅😅😅... It is a messed up way of birth of you ask me. Edit: Also why Athena came out late... No one knows... She came out as a fully grown woman already by that time... 😅😅😅😅

[@NOSHOTBROO]

"Well now that she's a hideous monster, nobody will try to force themselves on her anymore. I HELPED." FGO fans: Yes, you helped alright... *_HELPED US!_*

[@zephyrerazortail5478]

And Clash of the Titans made her a hot snake woman

[@blakerenimu9033]

She wanted a hideous shield and made an overly elaborated plan to get it. Classic Athena

[@Basher.G]

I feel bad for Medusa now

[@Huxley_Day]

She's always been a victim. One of the victims of the Olympians.

[@rocktheconqueror6903]

​@@Huxley_Day she was always a gorgon dude. she ain't a victim

[@huntress1123]

Athena: “I would never harm her” Me: you sure about that *points to her helping Perseus killing medusa and curses others and killing others*

[@baronbonk258]

“well now that she’s a monster, no one will want to force themselves onto her” haha, *wrong*

[@tman21716]

I think it was bc Athena couldn’t punished Poseidon so she punished the mortal instead

[@isaiahcaston4539]

When she could've easily just not punished anyone

[@starcrying6441]

Lol no sis, Athena is known to be jealous bitch. She was jealous of Medusa and her hair and beauty. Wut pussyidon did just gave Athena a chance to exact her envious ways and be justified. That's why she even turned her hair to snakes

[@lordtoademort8124]

I thought it was Zeus?

[@hypnoticskull6342]

That still makes no sense

[@starcrying6441]

@Lollipop love love the original one have aracchne being a monster alrdy without having to do with Athena. The most popular one is about Athena cursing her because she freaking painted Zeus having sex on a tapestry during their contest.

[@limpfall13]

I love how hestia is the rational and empathetic one who recognized the dumb crap Athena did

[@Moo-if1mz]

it kinda bugs me how people always think of Atyena as this 100% good olympian god,cuz it seems to me that she's more like a morrally gray character,always thinking logically and giving no considerations to emotions or morals that resulte to some questionable actions

[@skylordcc5882]

Hence the grey eyes

[@yippee-p7z]

Poor Medusa 😢 She didn’t deserve anything of that

[@mr.sonixx6768]

Fun fact:This is one of the few popular stories in mythology of a problem being caused because someone couldn't keep it in his pants that didn't involve Zeus

[@emmanuelbamu976]

Athena: i did nothing wrong Arachne: am i a joke to you

[@geekweek9673]

For anyone wondering, this is not the original version of the myth, and is fairly recent, having first been written by Ovid in his Metamorphoses. The thing is, Ovid had a tree sized chip on his shoulder after being exiled by Augustus. He had a grudge against authority figures, and maybe Athena/Minerva in particular, as I’m pretty sure he also wrote the version of Arachne where she’s super petty. In earlier myths Medusa was born a gorgon, along with her sisters Stheno and Euryale.

[@PumaArg]

And what did Medusa do in the original myths? And honestly, after reading the Iliade I'm not a fan either lol

[@geekweek9673]

@@PumaArg “In earlier myths Medusa was born a gorgon, along with her sisters Stheno and Euryale.” Edit: And the Iliad was Homer, not Ovid.

[@asshat8892]

@@PumaArgshe was just a monster, like the Hydra. Needed to be killed.

[@rensenbon3389]

Talk about being passive aggressive ... Way to go Athena 🤣

[@linhle8294]

Hestia: I'm too sane for all this stupidity

[@pandathebest4389]

In the original myth medusa was born a gorgon(which I believe is the more likely version of the story) And the whole Poseidon doing that to her was added by a authority figure hating writer who was basically writing fanfic and saying that medusa was the victim all along

[@x-omnistar-x9602]

See, this is why Rider from Fate has a very sour mood.

[@patrickbuckley7259]

In Athena's defence, Medusa and the Gorgons showed up in Peruses's story long before they had backstories, and Medusa broke her vow willingly up until Ovid. Arachne however was done dirty, I don't care how much she roasts your family, beating people to death is a no go.

[@tealbreeze101lol4]

Poor Hestia she had to put up with alot

[@gildedgoblin2999]

You know, if I recall, there's at least one myth that stated that Athena didn't actually make her hideous. Medusa, even after becoming a monster, was supposedly still a jawdropping beauty. Athena had mainly just given her the ability to petrify, so that men could not assault her without consequence.

[@zephyrerazortail5478]

That one might explain Clash of the Titans movie's version hehe

[@leonides1527]

Medusa: yep... This is my life... Hopefully in another life I don't go into this fucking temple again

[@turtleinvader2982]

In some legends, poseidon continued even after the transformation.

[@sqturn_asteroid]

hestia is basically like the responsible big sister and the least problematic. change my mind

[@matthewzard]

What makes this funnier is that the myth was made by a Roman poet, who characterized Athena as a horrible person, and people still think Athena was helping Medusa

[@ibaadiqbal6180]

0:52 I love the way hestia said Athena

[@Lengxinwuhuen]

The version of Medusa I heard was that after the assault, Athena changed her in order to protect herself from other people and so that she’d also fit in with her sisters, as she was the only one born human while the other two were born monsters

[@Alphapkmn]

She said, while discussing Poseidon, who has NO ISSUES with gorgons, considering he also had Orion (yes. THAT Orion) with a different Gorgon. Also in the Theogeny, she was ALWAYS a Gorgon about as old as the Titan Age.

[@noxlupa2996]

I’m pretty sure in the original myth Medusa knew what she was doing, the version where Poseidon assaulted her came from a man who had a problem with people in power

[@NAVEMAN3]

I would love to see one with Hestia grilling Athena after losing a weaving contest.

[@BasiliscBaz]

Poor hestia She is like single mom of olympians

[@vindicareassassin271]

Centuries later Japan saw Medusa And say I'll tap that

[@afreakaboucher1316]

got raped for being beautiful turned into a monster for being raped and then killed for having the ability to help or defend herself ugh .

[@j3ssthealien283]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Athena turned her just to scare and gross-out Poseidon

[@lordkek5817]

"So no man would want to lay with her" you say. You give us men to much credit.

[@diluc4070]

These videos make my day better

[@triples3273]

Hestia has never done anything wrong and is so pure, and nobody can convince me otherwise.

[@AnimeWolf5193]

So, this version of the story may actually not be accurate. There are versions of the story where Medusa willingly hooked up in the temple. I forget the details, but there was a storyteller who disliked the olympian gods as they were, so often retold stories that put some gods in unfavorable light. He was also the guy who told the version of Arachne where she won, but Athena turned her into a spider out of pettiness.

[@geekweek9673]

It’s Ovid. Blame Ovid.

[@vladianchis1580]

Zeus force himself on 1000 of women His daughter ,Athena, turn a 1000 of women on monstrous creatures I guess she really is daddy daughter After all he practically gave birth to her by literally using his head

[@that_one_athena_cabin_girl]

The moral of the story: Hestia is Bestia🤣

[@gandalfthewhite.5245]

Athena was subtly dissing Medusa. Change my mind.

[@Gmany01]

She was a victim blamer in some tellings but in other stories she did this because she could not punish poseidon(idk why) so she did this, which sort actually empowered her because no man could ever take advantage of her again. Also she turned another woman Poseidon raped into a bird so she could escape still not great, but Poseidon’s the one to blame more than athena.

[@JellyGeneral47]

This is why Hestia Bestia.

[@davidguthrie3895]

Athena wearing a wonder woman shirt was a nice touch

[@jeffreygao3956]

Actually I thought Medusa was Typhon’s and Echidna’s kid and Athena just had her on a hit list. Still hilarious to watch though!

[@dre1978]

I read a version where Athena's reasoning was basically if it happened once it'll happen again, referring to Poseidon attacking her, so she gave her the strength and power she needed to protect herself against men

[@jessnalulila5552]

And then she helped Perseus into killing her

[@schyracollbrande1900]

I just witnessed that Wisdom and Intelligence is not the same.😂😂😂

[@ZFighter2100]

The more and more I watch these the more I believe they deserved getting fortnite danced on by kratos.

[@oceanberserker]

Like that was ever in question?

[@mariaathena7910]

As a Greek and Athenian I can confirm that Athena, our Godess protector was 100% a jealous b*tch see Medusa, Spider(Αράχνη)and other girls (I know the purpose of myths was to inspire respect and obedience)

[@TreyC68]

If you can’t punish the person who committed the crime then just don’t punish anyone at all

[@kinglandar9268]

That's what I loved about the lore of Athena, because she was a tactician, she knew everything that she needed to do to put in place her great plan, to gain power over her father and take him on

[@yeasstt]

Good thing to note is that Medusa was only changed into a monster in some versions of the myth. In the earliest depictions of her, she was born a monster

[@garrettviewegh677]

Poor Medusa got a raw deal. She would never know love, and would be remembered as a monster. Though, she is more seen as a tragic victim in later iterations of her story. It makes you wonder why Athena didn’t punish/confront Poseidon. But then again, he’s a sibling of Zeus, he probably had some type of immunity.

[@hamburgerdog25]

And somehow the punishment NEVER extends to the offender?

[@raviqirvansyah1304]

This is Gold Comedy 😂😂😂

[@jay14n]

Let's not forget about ARACHNE the shit talking seamstress who said she was the best there ever was, and was turned into a spider who produced the finest silk man has ever known

[@TheOneWhoShushes]

Athena: we do a little bit of trolling here

[@ExelArts]

Miss these lol

[@inviz835]

Actually in Greek myth Athena was scared of Posieden so she blames medusa and over time after all the horrible things she has done as a gorgon she started to hate medusa

[@deathgod4872]

Athena tried to overthrow Zeus Beat Ares Win the city and named it's Athens She is not afraid to any God.

[@SirsasthNigam.]

thanks Ovid for fanficing a Gorgon who was Gorgon from birth to death

[@dashy9482]

Isnt Perseus also Athena's baby brother? She's very keen to help her mortal brothers with whatever tasks they have.

[@nohashtagshere4116]

Ya modern interpretations of this story always forget how Medusa ends up

[@hopelovewright4248]

Athena doesn't even wait until Hestia leaves the room to ask for her head for her shield.

[@empressfrozentoes5285]

"now nobody will force themselves upon her!" takeuchi takashi: "who decided that?"

[@hexazalea]

In fairness maybe she regreted her actions and made it a mercy killing. Then again Arachne

[@oceanberserker]

Sounds real regretful here, doesn't she? She couldn't just, oh, I don't know, turned her back into a human, restored her beauty, maybe her virginity too as a bonus seeing as how that was such a big thing back then. And maybe, perhaps, gone to Daddy Zeus, tell him what Uncle did to her favorite priestess and get him to punish Poseidon instead.

[@hatterme1234]

Medusa be cute in the movies tho

[@Yoshi-Wise]

From an immortal's pov, empowering someone with the ability to turn anyone to stone and see in all directions could be a gift. The gods aren't human after all, they just look human.

[@nikkigriffin6441]

I never but that together, hot damn

[@HyperDragonX]

Kinako Nasu: It's free real estate.

[@sleep_mushroom9219]

I’m named after the goddess Athena and it’s weird hearing people say it when talking about mythology because when I hear it I wanna respond

[@stephenredroad6778]

I love your videos

[@kevinrey5033]

American school system about bullying: *furiously taking notes.*

[@hargelshnarfel9315]

I guess Athena has never hear of r34 Nothing is safe from the wrath of rule 34.

[@irishv1ncecuh517]

I love how this is Greek gods but he has Thor on his shirt 😂😂

[@wolventiger]

Yes. She made a fancy crest on a shield

[@michelleborup378]

Hestia is The Voice of Reason™️. Always.

[@khartog01]

Loved the wonder woman shirt

[@fitzchivalry728]

I'm convinced that hestia is literally the only good being I Greek mythology. And I also love that Hades the game states that the had that MF strap and it was so dangerous it had to be locked away from *everything* until Zagreus gets his grimy little god fingers on it

[@broonsquad2867]

He's so similar to a grown up Gunther from Kick Buttowski

[@c_meterydrive]

this is why hestia is my favorite

[@vlover15OO]

Hestia seems like the only responsible player in a dnd party