Did Atlus Really Forget about Persona 1 and 2?

[@Moister356]

Atlus is the total opposite of Valve

[@losharikoved]

Literally, i dont know anything about mainline SMT before Nocturne, and i learned about persona 1 and 2 by forcing myself to play them

[@gotinogaden]

First off, ATLUS does keep the first two games and their older titles in mind, as evident with the PSP remakes and newer releases (Devil Summoner and Soul Hackers 1/2). Perhaps it's an issue that should be looked at from a different angle. You'll notice that the first two (three, if you separate IS and EP) games were written by the same person (Satomi Tadashi). With P3 and the games thereafter, there comes a sharp contrast in atmosphere, presentation, music style and character development. The coming-of-age subtheme has always been present in the series - the reasons for this are explained by Kozi Okada and Kazuma Kaneko in the EP bonus disc - but it's somewhat obvious that the writing shifts from plots that are conceptually closer to SMT (conflicts on a larger scale) to its own sim-style, self-contained stories (conflicts on a more earthly, grounded level). P3/P4/P5 were also designed to be more "hip", much more current to the current generation of players and they've clearly shed the mid-to-late 1990s presentation that still "plagues" P1/2. I consider the change in writers a big factor as to why the stories may not be as well received as they were back in the day. The plot of the first game essentially draws on a philosophical conundrum about transitivity and dreams, the second involves the power of myths and rumours, and they all tend to veer into several directions that are not necessarily congruent with each other (I mean, there was also Hitler, aliens and cults subplots in P2...) while the rest of the series tries to keep its plots focused on a primary theme, and the choice of specific colour to go with each game (P3 blue, P4 yellow and P5 red) was made so that an association to that plot can exist (I read this in a 2008 interview with the creators of the series).

[@TheBlackOtaku]

If persona 1&2 get remakes I wonder if ATLUS will retcon the 1&2 protagonists as Wild Card users.

[@Uranusmv]

I don't think it works, Naoya is represented by the emperor's arcana, Tatsuya the sun and Maya the moon, changing them would generate controversy.

[@TheBreadshit]

​@@Uranusmvnot really. Don't forget Makoto, Yu and Ren still have the Fool as their main Arcana while having a form of the Wild Card system

[@Uranusmv]

@@TheBreadshit We are talking about the first three installments, there was no such thing as a wild card, for example in eternal punishment, any character could equip other arcanas, apart from their main arcana.

[@xitrf2795]

This is the same situation with the Megami Tensei series or maybe it's just Atlus themselves. If you look at companies like Square Enix or Nihon Falcom you can see that they often brings back older title as a remake or AT LEAST a port for fans to enjoy. They can get away with not making the remakes no problem BUT why they dont make a port like heck even Ys1 and 2 does have a Pc port and now look at Persona 1 and 2, Smt 1,2 and IF,... not a single game has a modern console port why? Yes modern fans may not be able to enjoy it but how about the people who loves the series itself and really want to just comeback to the older titles and see for themselves how great those older titles too. At any rate i personally doesnt want a remake but more like a port but if Atlus really doing a remake then im all for it

[@flashsaberf4622]

The same leaker who leaked P3R and P5T said that although they aren’t sure if they’re currently in production that Atlus REALLY wants to remake Persona 1 and 2. Also that a lot of Atlus are fans of that game. Same leaker also said that a Persona spinoff codenamed ASA will have characters from 1-5 and will be announced within the next year. I can definitely see Atlus adding in those Pseudo social links from Reload and changing the gameplay to that of the modern series(which is a good thing) but keeping things like Persona pools.

[@dachking6657]

Your point about people expecting Persona games to be something nowadays that the first three games simply aren’t makes me wonder if some sort of name change would help them out. I’m not saying to take the word “Persona” out of their titles, but rather to dress it up somehow to make it obvious that they’re different and more closely related to regular RPGs. Maybe something along the lines of “Persona (#) Classic” maybe? Ooh, wait…y’know how a lot of shows and even games separate their stories into named arcs? What if they went back and made these three the “Philemon’s Persona (#)” games? That would make it obvious that they’re different somehow from the modern games at a glance…I’m just spitballing here, but honestly a simple name change like this could completely alleviate the problem. (Also “Philemon’s Persona 1” just has a ring to it that I really like)

[@losharikoved]

Well... All i can think about is "Revelation: Persona", and i dont sure if it is a good or a bad thing...

[@TerraFuu]

Just remaster the PSP versions at this point with all JP-only P2 content translated (mods have done this recently for free). For P1, use JP PS1 version's aesthetic (especially for UI and such) with an OST option for those that want the original score and opening rather than P3-esque tracks. Simple.