Did Claude ACTUALLY Shoot Maria At The End Of Grand Theft Auto III?

A while back, I posed a question for my audience at the end of one of my videos. A question that simply went, did Claude shoot Maria at the end of Grand Theft Auto 3. At the end of the game everyone is defeated and both Claude and Maria are the last two standing. They both walk away from the massacre while a news report plays about what went on, only to then fade into Maria complaining about what this whole experience was like for her. The screen fades to Black with her still complaining, and then she is silenced by a gunshot and then we fade into the credits music. So the million dollar question for me is did Claude shoot Maria. Time to do a deep dive into the psyche of Claude To Really find out.

[@davis13g]

everyone saying that claude shot maria or not when the obvious answer is that claude deadpooled himself

[@richardball5843]

“Dammit Claude.”

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

I think it's a question without answer, a comedic way to cap off the story. Given Maria's shenanigans and all, having the shot ring out to stop her works well enough.

[@comettamer]

Right. It's more likely he shot at her to make a point.

[@MaxTroiaActor]

I was always so confused on why the Incredible Hulk running by in Les Misérables was added to the movie. Glad you clarified it 👍

[@RetroRulzMyTown]

There IS one more reason people claim Maria isn't dead, and it's the fact she continues to be part of Lazlow's radio show, even after the game ends. It can be debated if they were prerecorded, but that's still a case to be made for whether or not she's still alive.

[@SecretMagician]

I personally feel like Claude both is and isn't as complex as many fans actually see him. Just because we never see him talk doesn't instantly mean that he's a sociopath and that he betrays literally anyone he can. He was simply being polite in bowing to Kenji and holding his hands behind him with Donald. His business with the Yakuza was relatively finished at the time and just like Niko and Ray Boccino in GTA IV, he did the job with Kenji with no exceptions just because he was told to, not because he wanted to (probably just like Niko, he probably figured that Kenji wouldn't lead him any closer to Catalina and he was also relatively ticked off since their last encounter was argumentative). So, whether Claude did or didn't shoot Maria will stay as a mystery that probably not even the Houser brothers and Leslie Benzies considered the ramifications of 23 years ago.

[@konuralpyldzkan1495]

reporter said 2 people fleed the scene. gunshot happened before they fleed the scene. so no, claude couldn't have killed maria

[@blaykay-4797]

They were out of the scene though? Claude & Maria were on top of the dam bridge when the shot happened & no fight took place there except below

[@themojogamer75]

​@@blaykay-4797 I'd argue "the scene" was the dam as a whole, not just where Catalina and the other guys were shot

[@konuralpyldzkan1495]

@@blaykay-4797 it was the part of the scene. and when the gunshot happened, they were still walking on the dam. if scene was just the platform where claude exploded catalina's helicopter, police would identify and catch claude and maria easily

[@ChloeLovelocks]

I think people are taking what was supposed to be a funny gag about Claude shutting up a woman that never shuts up a bit too seriously.

[@SecretMagician]

Agreed, I said this in my own comment, but I personally feel like Claude both is and isn't as complex as many fans actually see him. Just because we never see him talk doesn't instantly mean that he's a sociopath and that he betrays literally anyone he can. He was simply being polite in bowing to Kenji and holding his hands behind him with Donald. His business with the Yakuza was relatively finished at the time and just like Niko and Ray Boccino in GTA IV, he did the job with Kenji with no exceptions just because he was told to, not because he wanted to (probably just like Niko, he probably figured that Kenji wouldn't lead him any closer to Catalina and he was also relatively ticked off since their last encounter was argumentative). So, whether Claude did or didn't shoot Maria will stay as a mystery that probably not even the Houser brothers and Leslie Benzies considered the ramifications of 23 years ago.

[@channel45853]

True, sometimes fans read way too much into simple jokes

[@MadWatcher]

The story wasn't meant to be taken seriously to begin with. The story was pretty much there as a placeholder for the player to just screw around in, considering the story itself isn't that deep at all, and the ending reflects that. I think fans forget that GTA 3 was pretty much made as a way to go "hey look at this cool shit we can do" rather than this serious storytelling, deep character stuff.

[@ChloeLovelocks]

@@MadWatcher very true

[@OverL00k707]

that’s exactly what it is. people always over speculate with gta. same with the whole big smokes order was long to give the ballaz enough time to run up theory. when really it was just for comedy because smoke is fat

[@Se7enBeatleofDoom]

Despite being a canonically mute character. Claude is fascinating compared to the other main characters in the 3D trilogy. There is enough there that makes him a mysterious character. Tommy is a bad guy, but he has standards and is capable of showing loyalty. CJ is a borderline saint compared to Claude.

[@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M]

Claide is just a scary and heartless person. I think him being mute was that he was either born with it or something happened to him.

[@hawken796]

CJ for majority of the game only does things because he has to, outside of the CIA and some of the desert missions, you mostly do things due to circumstance.

[@Raycloud]

I don't know that he is canonically mute. A man of very few words, yes. CJ calling him a "snake without a tongue" wasn't necessarily meant literally. There is about as much evidence of Clude being literally mute as Gordon Freeman. I see it as just a stylistic choice since Claude is meant as a player avatar much more so than Tommy or CJ. I mean hell, he doesn't even have a name until San Andreas.

[@zombiewarrior225]

One thing I wanna know is how the hell did Claude knock out a cop by kicking him in the shin.

[@SecretMagician]

The cop hit his head on the fall.

[@ShawnReed-ny1hd]

He went face first to the floor😂 now in 2001 I use to wonder the same thing 😂

[@SmoothieD00d]

For sure That Hulk joke got me real good.

[@CoffeePotato]

It was an acorn that fell off a tree.

[@458italiap]

Lol

[@commanderproton7763]

One thing to note is Rockstars own comments on the situation. They've deliberately been very vague. In 2009, they said "Certainly gun shots were fired but nobody is sure as to exactly what happened." Then during the 10th anniversary in 2011 they mentioned how some on the team think he killed her, but some did not. I'd say based on the mission failure and the original intent for the ending rant, that Maria wasn't shot and Rockstar didn't intend for it to be taken that seriously.

[@Kanzuki]

I'll never forgive Rockstar for making the 3D Universe separate from the HD Universe. It would be super cool to see an older Tommy Vercetti come back in GTA 6. (Unrelated to the video topic, but it's still GTA)

[@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M]

They should've just had them as 1 universe. Not seeing CJ, Claude or Tommy. They can leave it to us to theorize what happened to them. Having a older Tommy in gta 6 or even the Vercetti Estate being there is not out of the question.

[@PEN1killer]

Ray Liotta died like a year ago and he wasn't in good terms with Rockstar, so that would never happen.

[@themojogamer75]

Huh, didn't know they were a separate universe. That makes sense, tho. Also, unrelated to the video, holy shit a Persona 2 pfp on a GTA video, what are the odds lmao

[@pharmcat8484]

“A firestorm of twisted metal.” I see what you did there.

[@ckmondaviable]

I said it once and I’ll say it again. Claud didn’t shoot Maria… he shot himself.

[@Legba85]

You stole my comment!! 😂😂😂😂

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

My reasoning behind thinking this is possible is him realizing that he made a lot of extremely dangerous enemies that have a lot of power

[@SleepyMook]

Pretty much the ending of Postal 2

[@TonyG8992]

Dumbest shot I read

[@evandaymon8303]

It would make sense if we didn't return to playing as claude. Could be some purgatory thing is all i can seeing that being plausible

[@throwaway7969]

Most crazy ending? Carl coming back to kill Claude.

[@ShawnReed-ny1hd]

Claude would make burgers out of cj😂😂

[@Swede1523]

@@ShawnReed-ny1hd Or dog food.

[@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818]

why would he. im sure CJ would be quite happy with claude getting rid of catalina.

[@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M]

​@@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818Claude and Catalina screwed CJ over but I think your right.

[@throwaway7969]

@@ryuukeisscifiproductions1818 He asked for crazy, I gave him crazy. lol

[@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate]

I think it's obvious he didn't, he went to the meeting place with a dossier full of money, when he obviously knew at this point Catalina couldn't be trusted and would betray him again, Claude could have easily just attacked the meeting place without a care for Maria, or at the very least brought a dossier full of fake money or simply empty, it doesn't make sense why he would bother to actually go along with Catalina's deal if he didn't care about Maria when there were many safer options, dude was willing to risk it all for her, the only reason he isn't dead is because the guy pointing the gun at him didn't reac fast enough.

[@SnipingIsAGoodJobMate]

@@MadWatcher I am simply reading into the intent of what the devs wanted to convey with the game and it's missions, to me the final mission it's the classic "rescue the girl, kill the villain", most of my comment doesn't even talk about the actual shot lol

[@michaelboydston313]

Claude was probably trying to shoot a fly that was annoying him and accidentally shot Maria by accident

[@GuiSama8000]

To your point, Claude has spent a long time with Catalina. He probably knew to some extent that if he was seen with someone, Catalina would probably reveal herself. Up until the very final mission, Claude doesn't know where to find Catalina, nor where the cartel is hiding. My personal headcanon is that, at least in Claude's mind, Maria was similar to Catalina, or could fall into the same route since she had seem so much crime by that point, and never really seemed to despise the chaos of that life. However, I do like the theory that he actually did it to himself. There's a nice detail in SA, when CJ tells Catalina she was the one who didn't wanted anything anymore, cause it was "just business", to which she replies (in a crazy manner, yes), that when she says "just business", it means that she's saying "I love you". Since the story was told backwards by R*, maybe Claude remembered this moment when leaving with Maria, after all, she had just said she loved him, which could have triggered a memory. If he was as crazy as Catalina, maybe he felt just right to go with her.

[@tempestfennac9687]

This is an interesting theory. Not sure if I'd read that much into the comments given the context in both cases (ie: CJ only wanting to get money due to being kicked out of LS and Catalina shooting Claude because she believed he was holding her back). Also, Maria does claim that she's seen too much violence when Claude meets Asuka but this can be taken with a pinch of salt considering how she's willing to help torture Miguel (still hanging out with Asuka at that point doesn't necessarily invalidate the claim being as they were friends and Maria probably wouldn't have the resources to get her own place at that point).

[@WhipLashJimmyFrank]

This was the most, ‘Did Claude shoot Maria at the end of GTA III?’ video of all time.

[@geovane19]

If all else fails, I'll believe the funniest answer, which is claude commiting self deletion because Maria was being annoying

[@AlySence]

One of oldest gta question in the franchise 20 plus years ago. Open ended for the players to still guess imo.

[@Yngdady]

"Was Leonardo DiCaprio's character dreaming at the end of Inception" ahh video

[@acecashman1237]

You can murder Kenji for Donald without ever meeting him

[@VinMetal666]

I laughed my ass off at the ending when I beat it as a kid, it was a joke all along

[@ndingo]

Claude shot in the air to shut up Maria

[@TordaiJenci-x7g]

Claude is a cold blooded killer he whacks anyone when he doesnt need them anymore he didnt need Maria anymore so rip

[@rangerv1]

I felt like how gta vc was originally a dlc and this ending was supposed to continue into that unti Vice City became it’s own game

[@arctic4346]

I disagree with the premise that Claude had no interest at all in Maria. He was visibly annoyed when she informed him at the pier about her lies to Salvatore, but she introduced him to Asuka, and her broader organization, who paid better than Leones (for average assignments). It was also clear at this point that Salvatore did not have the power or resources to get to Catalina, and generally sought to not anger her organization too much, so the Leone angle was a dead end. Asuka's organization did indeed possess those resources. Claude had even more to gain from pitting Asuka and Catalina into a war than Donald Love did... The game-ending of Kenji was a good a move on this grand chess-board from Claudes perspective. This would pit Asuka's organization into total-war against Catalina's organization, weakening them to the point where Catalina herself would be more exposed. Now for Maria, I don't believe that Claude had 0 interest in Maria... Catalina "collected" Maria with demands of $500,000... If Claude truly didn't care about what happened to Maria, he could've just not paid, and rushed the compound, perhaps using his connections with D-Ice, his nearby the compound group the Red Jacks to help stake out the place, and assisting in the battle. Maria would've been game-ended by Catalina, but she would've also met her end in this scenario, no $500k needed... Claude instead agreed to pay the $500k, and be frisked/disarmed by Catalina's guards in exchange for Maria, exactly as the note said.

[@ladeandix7451]

why would he even keep her alive? Maria is nothing but a liability who gets him nothing.

[@konuralpyldzkan1495]

theme of love has a huge amount of effect on the storyline of gta 3, and maria is the only one who gives claude an unconditional love. i think claude enjoys the idea of maria loving him

[@stephenreynolds3288]

Maria is boss, she's one of the best characters.

[@Ko700el]

in my head-canon, SHES DEAD, she finally SHUT UP...end of story happy AND QUIET ending for Claude

[@wclac]

Knowing his history with Catalina, he didn't want to take that chance with Maria. Plus, Maria's history with Salvatore, Toni, and Wayne, she was a liability.

[@Sansfunnyboness]

(Haven't watched the video yet) I think it fits with everything we know about Claude so yes i think he shot her just cuz she was annoying him edit.watched the video and a funny scenario would be if Claude was so done with everything he actually shot himself instead lol

[@NORTH_CAROLINA]

Shot in the Air

[@thejedisonic67]

CJ showed up to Liberty City again just to go out of his way to shoot Catalina, who survived the helicopter by the skin of her teeth. He knew Calude would try to bring her down in a fireball explosion, and CJ has prior experience with Mike Toreno having survived being shot out of the sky in a helicopter as well, so he was taking no chances letting this crazy bitch of an ex live to tell the tale. Seeing some random guy pop up to cap Catalina put Maria in utter disbelief that she just forgot what she was saying. Claude forgot to react to seeing a guy that beat him in a race from like a decade ago.

[@first_m2999]

Nobody fired any weapon. The gunshot sound was non diegetic and was used to mark the end of the narrative. Canonically, Maria kept talking, but the devs decided that this is the point where we, the audience, stop listening.

[@RemnantCult]

Clause is like the perfect GTA protag. He has the dna of every proceeding character after him, creating a hard to define and insane man. The perfect clay model for the player's expression of the game.

[@PlantNamedEmma]

This is why i love this channel from twisted metal to GTA 3. The maria Question a rather useless one that has lived rent free in my head since 2003. The first time i beat the game I was pretty young but I remember what i had pictured in my head at the end of the game. Maria shutting up with a bit of terrfied look on her face and Claude smiling for the silence. Though I agree that she probably got shot.

[@JDnD80]

As for ridiculous situations, Claude was so annoyed with Maria he shot himself.

[@ChloeKong-z8w]

2:06 Tangled AU Claude: Maria I thought I'd never see you again? huh? Maria: (got kidnapped) Scuttle: oh no

[@ChrisMortJr.]

King of snark style? My dude is shinsuke baconmura

[@Hitomora]

Well the fact that Claude is walking behind Maria makes it even easier for him to just cap her in the back of the head while she just rants on

[@graduator14]

"Claude? Are you going to shoot me!? Say something!"

[@RunningManBusted]

This was a great video. What we should notice is that after wasting all the gang members, there were only two people in the helicopter- the pilot and Catalina. After blowing the helicopter up, two is added to the counter. I believe Claude fired a warning shot and left Maria after that.

[@nickrustyson8124]

My theory the last Forelli comes back just to shoot Maria for giving him the clap

[@DudleyKetsukane]

Idk I just think claude shooting at the air to get maria to shut up is just mildly humorous enough to be what i think happens.

[@MrPikaGammer]

My joke theory is that a random civilian capped someone trying to hijack their car.

[@Red_Savarin]

My headcanon is that it's like the ending of Postal 2: He just shot himself because her ranting was that annoying and he couldn't take it anymore.

[@HairyHarpy]

Claude Tripped and fell and the pistol in his pocket went off and he died, and Maria had a heart attack. The end

[@radicalcentrist4990]

There are too many clues that point out that he genuinely wanted to rescue her, shooting her would just be nonsensical on his part. 1. He wouldn't have disarmed himself when coming to Catalina's place 2. He wouldn't have brought actual money on that briefcase 3. You wouldn't fail the mission if Maria dies, therefore he actually wants her safe 4. He probably is grateful for her warning him about Salvatore's trap, literally saved his life. She didn't really have to do it 5. She is pretty much the only person that stood by him to the end, while everyone else was either betraying or cutting contact with him

[@thatradiogeek]

Had nothing to do with revenge, she was just annoying.

[@OnAnotherLevel-qb6qj]

Next Gta video:Did CJ Really have to follow that train?

[@xNobodyOfConsequenceX]

TBP: "You can't get away with The Incredible Hulk streaking past the screen during a production of Les Miserables and just brush past the whole thing by saying it was a computer glitch that rendered him into the movie" Me: Well not with *that* attitude.

[@breathstealer5486]

If this had been swapped around tommy would have easily talked with Salvatore and gotten both him and the yakuza on his side to help kill Catalina

[@colebowers2359]

He shot her because she never stopped talking. He never gave a shit about her. He just wanted revenge on catalina. Not that complex lol

[@4sevn]

could've been a Plaxico Burress/Cheddar Bob scenario (the gun went off in his pants)

[@ShelbyGT5OO]

Claude kills her. Maria and Asuka were a thing as evidenced by the interactions at Asukas condo. Wouldnt surprise me if Maria and Catalina were a “thing” as well. Claude going to “rescue” her at the mansion was an excuse to get close to Catalina. Marias dialogue at the end also hints at her use of promiscuity to survive/get what she wants. Claude saw thru that lie and killed her before it kills him like it did Salvatore/Asuka/Catalina

[@TordaiJenci-x7g]

Claude went after Catalina NOT to save Maria,Maria was just there was

[@comettamer]

I do think he shot at her, as a warning. "Shut up, or the next one doesnt miss." He was making a point that if Maria was gonna be around him, he wasn't gonna put up with her inane chatter like Salvatore Leone did.

[@patrickhiller7072]

To spell it right: Asuka = A very beautifuk and talented Japanese Wrestler and she is signed to WWE actually and then ther is Asuka (A-su-ka spelled) a Charakter from GTA III ;) Thank You for the good Video and keep on going on Your good Work. :-)

[@sandroomiguel17]

Personally, I think everyone can have their own version. I feel like Claude is what everyone wants him to be. Since he doesn't show much anyway, I feel like each player can add their own feelings to it.

[@pharmcat8484]

Donald Love was trying to tie up loose ends.

[@skaterocker666]

Of course he did, why wouldn't he?

[@excellentestevan4488]

Honestly I'm fine with either or being the answer to what happened. But in a GTA 3D comedic sense it would make sense for Claude to shot the sky to shut Maria up. But on the other hand, I would believe that Claude would kill her due to her causing everything that happened in the game and/or he doesn't care for Maria at all ( I didn't either).

[@meadebe]

I don't think he shot her for the simple fact that everyone he killed, in context of the story/game was part of a job asked of him, or they were trying to stop him from completing a job, and she was neither.

[@kez963]

You should get hands on the gta3 game design documentation. The story should include the ending, just maybe.

[@deadite3879]

Maria shot herself by accident.

[@batuhanbolat5656]

If I remember right, I was one of the people who made one those "Maria shot Claude and the whole story was ploy by her in order to take over the city" people. It is funny. I also believe it to be true.

[@TordaiJenci-x7g]

claude shot maria then himself i mean the nameless default protagonist "fido"

[@MRMIdAS2k]

Maria is NOT Salvatore's wife. She is a hooker (one of Luigi's girls) who is Sal's favourite girl. It doesn't stop him being mad she wants someone else. And yes, he shoots her.

[@_billky_]

Unironically I was able to find a ps2 copy of gta 3 today so I guess I can play through it and come back here in a few days to give you my own proper opinion that isn’t just based on my memory playing the game

[@EnvySays]

No, Claude didn't shoot Maria, it was James!!!

[@ShawnReed-ny1hd]

Yes...she's the sole reason everything went to shit,he didn't rescue her for her only to get Catalina, she was useless at that point, claude killed people for less,and considering claude was already on the run from the beginning of the game he couldn't risk her opening her mouth which is what she's known to do

[@firepeaman2440]

Personally, I think he did. Claude didn't take any half measures throughout the story, and Maria had already gotten him into trouble once, even if it was a mistake. Who's to say she wouldn't again?

[@Sir_Goodwrench]

I'm of the opinion that Claude fired into the air to shut Maria up, or that it's simply just a sound effect to cap the story off. I think the latter is funnier, purely due to the amount of speculation about the meaning of the gunshot. 😂

[@HeavyWeapon858]

Sounds like he went Jackie Brown on her

[@Rakiarmas]

Maybe the player shot the conversation. After all things you went through, I don't think anyone wanted to hear Maria's complain for the entire credits. So the complaining was shot to finally finish the game.

[@JohnDoe-vg5ch]

I highly doubt Claude killed her. The character despite being a blank canvas for us as the player, is depicted at the end of the day as a man of action. All that trouble to just shoot her in the end? Nah. But that is my take. I think that is what Rockstar intended.

[@MadmanRobi]

It's not a gunshot. It's Claud's pimpslap.

[@moviemaker2011z]

im gonna say that he likely shot himself because she wouldnt shut up and he just wanted an out.

[@psykolikwid]

Awesome video!

[@RetroPixelLizard]

And I thought It was all just for cinematic effect.

[@Skuttie]

Clauds gun just....did that

[@UndeadSo1dier01]

BUT THATS JUST A THEORY

[@juliostrada4122]

No, it was just a cinematic finish rockstar wanted the 10 Year anniversary for gta 3 q&a answers that.

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

There is no definite answer for all we know it could have been a hitman taking out Claude or he could have realized that he made to many powerful enemies and did himself in then again he could have easily shot her with no voice over for Claude's reaction to her every thing is possible

[@soc5676]

I'm in the party of Claude shooting Maria simply because she nagged too much. The GTA series always had a dark sense of humor, and those kind of jokes were definitely still popular by the time this game was released (Jackie brown did a very similar gag just 4 years before this game) It would clash with the power fantasy gameplay if Claude killed himself, and Maria was established to be someone who just never shuts up, so she would probably talk back at him for scaring her. So I think the most likely scenario is he just got tired of the constant whining and shut her up permanently.

[@Broski_Nation]

Yeah, he shot her... Sources: My dad...

[@MotherLover1984]

Claud shot CJ, as a pratical joke

[@johnnymnemonic69]

Yes, he shot her. It's GTA

[@captainsmartass3368]

what happened to Claude after gta 3 after the final storyline mission of GTA 3 The Exchange AKA the chronologically the last mission in the 3D Universe by plot order. This is my theory is Claude when into hiding for 6 month to 1 or 2 years before making his escape from Liberty city and before escaping from Liberty city Claude made it look like someone got to him by Trashing his safehouse the North West Towers is a housing apartment located in Wichita Gardens, Shoreside Vale. Claude would most likely back to State of San Andreas most likely in Ganton aka the Home to the Grove Street Families in Los Santos remember THAT Claude can be seen in the background during the opening cutscene of the mission Wu Zi Mu in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and most likely over heard Carl "CJ" Johnson introduces himself to Wu Zi Mu a.k.a. "Woozie" CJ did say he is from Grove Street Families so Claude is using Grove Street Families to Protect him from liberty city gangs. The reason why I picked the North West safehouse is because 8-Ball explosives expert and firearms trader to the Leone Family and told Claude about the Portland Safehouse so I believe that the Leone Family would of made 8-Ball tell them about the Portland Safehouse so they can keep an eye on it and the Staunton Island Safehouse is believed to be owned by the Yakuza and Yakuza co-leader Asuka give Claude Safehouse so I believe that Yakuza most likely find out THAT Claude killed Kenji Kasen witch started the war between the Yakuza and the Colombian Cartel so the Yakuza will be keeping an eye on the Staunton Island Safehouse so I believe that the North West Towers Safehouse will be safer than the other two. The reason why I picked Los Santos over San Fierro,Las Venturas and all the Towns in San Andreas is because as both Donald Love and Avery Carrington say "Nothing brings down real estate prices quicker than a good ol' fashioned GANG WAR. 'Cept maybe a disaster like a biblical plague or something, but that might be going too far in this case."

[@MisterBones223]

He shot it to shoot her up It's a gag lol

[@noahdean9685]

I never liked Maria Claude has been betrayed too many times so the fear of Maria betraying him next he decided to betray her for a change by killing her I mean this is Grand theft Auto we're talking about of course the main character is going to kill someone at the end even if it's their closest Ally like GTA v as Franklin you can choose to go after Michael or Trevor but the Canon ending is that all three of you work together and share the same death wish!

[@twinberwolves4231]

That's an interesting take, Claude decided to get someone before he got got.

[@gabrielborchers3034]

Independent if he shot her or not, my head cannon is he make love with Joe girl for a last F U to Leones and is dad of GTAO protagonist

[@BigDaddy-vk6rv]

I think he shot her and TheProfessional brought up some good points - even ones that completely went over me head boyo!

[@IAmTheEagleHTM]

I say no, he didn't

[@damnjackie233]

pretty sure thats the implication otherwise why add it? thats what id like to think anyways.

[@MonkeyKingsformerroomate]

There was never a doubt in my mind he shot her. Like you said, you do far worse in the game. Plus him shooting her for being annoying is exactly the dark humor that the game has in abundance.

[@SpartanHighKing14]

I'm a slut for vintage GTA content😂😅😂. This shit is so good

[@robertsonmcnaughton4850]

Maria? Catalina

[@robertsonmcnaughton4850]

Oh that dumb bitch that wants to leaves violence behind only to turn around and demand Claude murder every one on her list