Did Emperor Pedro II meet Nietzsche?

[@pizzaman044]

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[@ikemuhlen]

Dom Pedro Segundo video! >BASED

[@aronlazarhargitai8680]

I've never heard about this train story, but I've heard about their meeting in Bayereuth. Victor Hugo called Don Pedro as a modern Marcus Aurelius. In Bayereuth Nietzsche could be convinced of this personally. Pedro ruled Brazil in a very intelligent way: he handled, and manipulated certain factions, while he supported education, science and culture. He himself was also a scholar, thus he embodied Nietzsche's scholar-general and also the renaissance prince.

[@danielscott2831]

As a brazilian fan of your work, this took me by surprise

[@untimelyreflections]

I heard I had brazilions of fans but now I know it is true

[@chitra___]

@@untimelyreflections How many years have you been waiting to make that joke

[@untimelyreflections]

@@chitra___ only about a brazilion years

[@nunkatsu]

One thing that raises suspicions about the authenticity of the story is the detail about Don Pedro speaking with an exotic, foreign accent. Yes, he was Brazilian, but he had an austrian mother, and since Nietzsche was German, we can assume that both of them, if they were to meet in real life, would be talking to each other in German. D. Pedro most likely had a native accent in German due to his Austrian mother, and Nietzsche would most likely assume that he was Austrian.

[@emiyayuu4746]

There is only one problem with this theory, Dom Pedro II's mother died 1 year after his birth, and his father left Brazil due to popular pressure 5 years after his wife death, records show that Pedro 2 was self-taught in certain topics So he certainly wouldn't have a native accent, at least that's what connecting some points of his biography points to

[@EunicesTrashcanLid]

Maybe they kissed and tried to keep it hush hush

[@ZenSickness]

I think this sort of story is particularly seducive to Nietzscheans because of the parallel it has to Diogenes and Alexander, and the allusion to Diogenes Nietzsche employs in his parable of the madman.

[@ZenSickness]

@@James-ll3jb A lot of people subconsciously look for patterns and attribute meaning to them; like seeing faces in natural rock formations or the clouds. A foundational element of the whole Christian religion is that the pattern of Christ's life aligned with certain Old Testament prophesies.

[@ZenSickness]

@@James-ll3jb As for it's appeal, particularly for people who admire Nietzsche's ideas, I'd say it's obvious by the fact that it is /not true/ and yet there are still people with the motive to believe this story and spread it.

[@ZenSickness]

@@James-ll3jb Arrogance and condescension are never traits found in truly strong characters. You're obviously projecting.

[@ZenSickness]

@@James-ll3jb The people who throw insults online are generally cowards in real life. Though based on your "cignitive" (sic) abilities you could have CTE, so who knows, maybe you fight. Either way I'm going to stop responding to this since like a functional person I've got better things to do than argue on the internet. I'm sure whatever last words you have to say will make you feel quite triumphant licking your wounds as you tab over to porn. I hope you have a nice life. Whatever you're bitter about; it's only holding you back.

[@dragushcobaj4121]

What a beautiful turn of phrase. Given the overabundance of idiots /like this one/ I’ll be sure to need it.

[@catalindan9902]

bro, i love your videos, please please do something on heidegger too

[@albert1688]

Not to be a nerd but all the commonwealth countries were monarchies, some still are. There were tons of monarchies pre conquest, the empire of Haiti, Mexico, etc. etc.

[@untimelyreflections]

As far as I’m aware, Haiti and Mexico are the only other examples, and they both lasted less than two years. You’re correct that other monarchies existed but I don’t count them.

[@despair2805]

​@@untimelyreflectionsWell, as far as I know, the second mexican empire lasted around 4 years, maybe it wasn't that much time but it is remembered as an important moment in the history of my country. By the way, did you know Nietzsche wanted to move to Oaxaca, Mexico? In one of his private letters he said something like that it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a colony with Paul Ree in Mexico

[@theuberman7170]

@@despair2805what!? (I’m Mexican) do you have a source?

[@nomad134]

Cheers from Brazil, ✌️

[@C0rbyn]

The statement at 0:13, "...[The Empire of Brazil,] the only monarchy that has existed in the new world...", is false. If we do not include territories considered to be owned by European monarchs, then there are at least two other examples: The Mexican Empire and the Empire of Haiti. There is a Wiki page for each of these empires, so anyone who is interested in learning more may start there if no other source comes to mind. Edit: Changed the timestamp to be more accurate.

[@PedroHenrique-ei2nv]

Canada, Jamaica and some other commonwealth realms are monarchies to this day. There were also pre-Colombian empires such as the Aztecs and Incas

[@kalervolatoniittu2011]

On Nietches sanity,what do you think made him lose it ?

[@austinmackell9286]

That was fun for a couple of minutes.

[@jansugalski546]

In Nietzsche's supposedly mad mutterings before his final collapse, he mentions don Pedro. The video doesn't specifically mention this - or did I miss it?

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Damn Salts . Right on material. Was not expecting this. Very good Dig🤘

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[@damin1916]

I see you used video from that weird russian Nietzsche movie, man that movie was hard to watch.

[@the-colour-white9587]

What about the mexican empire? Isn't it too a monarchy in the new world?

[@untimelyreflections]

Didn’t it last two years?

[@pizzaman044]

@@untimelyreflections I do think it's important to mention countries that were monarchies in everthing but name, like Paraguay under Carlos Antonio López and his son

[@untimelyreflections]

@@pizzaman044paraguay I think was considered a dictatorship, wasn’t it? IIRC I always heard him referred to as dictator

[@pizzaman044]

@@untimelyreflections Well, a presidential dictatorship for life that is inherited by the ruler's son. That's pretty much a monarchy with a different title, no? Kind of like a North Korea situation (ignoring the part where the past rulers keep their official titles despite being dead)

[@the-colour-white9587]

@@untimelyreflections there were two, the first one 1823 and the second one 1863-67 so in total 6 years at least

[@whoaitstiger]

It's a shame this is fictional. I suppose we'll always have his whimsical encounter with Sherlock Holmes!

[@untimelyreflections]

They try to solve the case of the murder of God. (Spoiler: it was the ugliest man)

[@marcobrod796]

This fiction is better than reality? But what do we nietzschaens care about the truth? Truth should serve life. Please delete this video, in it's stead, tell the story and tell everyone it's true! Let's create the future!

[@untimelyreflections]

“Truth should serve life” is a distortion of Nietzsche’s approach to truth. Instead, he writes that the strength of a soul could be measured by how much truth one could tolerate without having to have it muffled, sweetened, or falsified. Nietzsche does indeed raise the issue that what is true might be harmful in the highest degree, but this doesn’t come with an exhortation to deceive ourselves. He writes, “If you wish to strive for happiness and peace of the soul, believe. If you wish to be a disciple of truth, then inquire.”

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[@bogusbladegameing4897]

Same

[@zerotwo7319]

Let me prepare mentally for the -wrong- pronunciation of Pedro. Edit: Wow nice try! Good.

[@jcavs9847]

mexico was also a monarchy at some point

[@umbertotoni3021]

Brasil wasn't "the only monarchy of new world".The new world was created under monarchy, had an has several monarchies. Inform yourselves before to make videos.

[@untimelyreflections]

The British and Spanish crowns having colonies is not the same as a New World Monarchy. Brazil is the only country (1) to have the royalty of a country (Portugal) create a new dynasty that then separates as a new monarchy from the old world (2) that then lasts more than a couple years. If you read Citizen Emperor, a book on Pedro II, the author advanced this same argument. A dictatorship in Haiti or Mexico that called itself a “monarchy” and died in eighteen months is not a good counterexample