Did Giants overpay Daniel Jones with four-year, $160M extension? | NFL | SPEAK

[@SpeakOnFS1]

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[@JAC315]

McCoy says dak sucks but likes the jones contract when they making the same salary😂😂😂

[@brentplaysmadden2128]

Because Jones is better than Dak

[@mechanicdrew3375]

Rookie year 24 td and 12int

[@jguterrez01]

He also had 11 lost fumbles out of 18 fumbles but let's leave those out.

[@greenhillscustomlawncarell1139]

I bet Baker Mayfield is somewhere salty right now. Hahaha.

[@TheCruzan26]

Real Salty! Lol

[@lucasmartinez5703]

Good.

[@davidverduin5614]

I like how he skipped over his rookie year when saying he “never” had more TDs than games 😂😂😂

[@poppsosa6289]

He had 23 turnover his rookie year

[@Christian-xr7hc]

i like how you ignore how many TOs he had compared to TDs in his rookie season. Jones is a mediocre QB and that’s why his HC limited his down field throws. history tells us he’s a TO machine. He’s not even a top 15 QB 😂😂

[@AYouTubeUser1]

So many of y’all are missing the point and it’s sad. Intentionally omitted stats, facts or evidence to fit your narrative or assist your argument is disingenuous and poor journalism and etiquette. People aren’t saying his rookie season was outstanding, but Acho either intentionally left it out or said an incorrect stat.

[@Christian-xr7hc]

@@AKZbinUser1 1) he most likely left it out bc it’s the outlier when looking at his career stats. and 2) he stated “in the last THREE years” DJ has had less TDs than GP, which, is a fact. Try and make the argument as to why DJ deserved that kind of money, but whatever your argument is, it doesn’t erase the fact that DJ is a below average QB

[@AYouTubeUser1]

@@Christian-xr7hc the time stamp I list is @2:10. If he says the statement you mention, please time stamp it. And I think that DJ is overpaid. So why would I make an argument for him not being overpaid?

[@aaronchapman3]

"I went to my first Nascar race, is that what they call it? A race?" Bro what else would they call it

[@NeonSuperNovas]

Jones definitely got overpaid. I’m so sick of this political stuff. Are you confident that your QB can get you to the SB and win it. Mahomes=yes, Burrow=yes, Rodgers=yes, Jackson=yes, Lawrence=yes, Allen=yes…so you pay them. Dak=no, Jones=no, Cousins=no…so you don’t pay them. I’m so sick of this “Welllll, this person got paid this, so the correct thing to do is to overpay my average QB this much, and look dumbfounded the next few years and wonder what’s going on.

[@dwmjr2253]

4gotabout jalen!

[@roscodoggo7456]

Burrow=No, Jackson =No, Lawrence =No, Allen =No. You don't know they can win it anymore than you know Daniel Jones can't.

[@Somdeb10]

@@dwmjr2253 Jalen hurts didn’t win it so 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@jml5100]

Allen definitely no Jackson will be hurt too much because of the way he plays

[@russellseaton2014]

You are a little bit premature on Jackson, Lawrence, Allen getting you to the Super Bowl. And Burrow lost his only Super Bowl appearance. Of the QBs you listed, only Mahomes and Rodgers have Super Bowl victories.

[@nevets3889]

You know it’s a bad contract when your rivals are happy about it.

[@worstbehaviorstories]

Of course. They may have been relevant this year but they lost all their games to their two biggest rivals. This kid isn’t winning his division if he can’t beat Dallas or the Eagles. Giants paid 40 million a year for a Wildcard QB 😂

[@rainbowremo1]

rivals don't know as much about your team as you do. This is not a bad contract by any means necessary if you look at the guarantee compared to other qbs. Kyler has 180M guaranteed for christ sake

[@colerainswaggify6387]

​@@rainbowremo1 Kyler is way more talented than Jones, what's your point?

[@rainbowremo1]

@@colerainswaggify6387 He was dogshit this year. Jones was way better

[@josephclark7814]

Maybe the rivals have no idea what they’re talking about.

[@paulyang748]

Bad signing. I would of let him test the market. The guy is a low end QB.

[@lyleswavel320]

Top 14, he was in playoffs, 18 quarterbacks behind him

[@s.n.9485]

He's middle of the pack. Not low end

[@ajhaynes5721]

The deal makes a ton of sense. 82M guaranteed, the Giants won. The guaranteed money equals his 5th year option plus an exclusive franchise tag number (estimated) They can cut bait in 2 years. The Giants had to do this because they didn’t pick up his 5th year option and they didn’t want to be in the situation that Dak was in. The Cowboys could have signed Dak to a below market value extension but played chicken and lost. The Giants were smart and cautious at the same time. Great deal. Hopefully it works.

[@wworld15]

Love how Acho switched up quickly cause he realized Daniel Jones had 24 passing touchdowns his rookie year. People who don't watch him and love staring at the numbers wouldn't be able to recognize the talent you can only see by watching, yet they love to speak as if they know his actual value. Especially given his injury plagued receiving core that has had to use tons of practice squad players, and an O line with a great left tackle, terrible guards, terrible center, and a young inexperienced right tackle. Considering all that, and the fact that he still was the leading factor in taking this team to the playoffs with his arm AND legs, AND winning a playoff game... look around at what other QBs who are better than him and QBs who are worse or not as talented (really good arm talent, great running QB) are making and his contract is about the right number

[@lf2856]

Love Jones. Lamar should get more than him though.

[@jguterrez01]

You are delusional saying that he was the reason the Giants made the playoffs you obviously don't know football. The first 8 games the Giants were 7-1 due to the running game and timely defense NOT Jones. If Jones was the reason why did the Giants go 2-6-1 in the second half. The Giants will have buyers remorse by year 2. Just remember this in 4 years Jones has yet to audible out of a play.

[@lord-marroking1315]

You’re acting as is 24 tds is something special. Don’t leave out that he had 12 ints and lost 11 fumbles. 23 turnovers to 24 passing tds. That’s garbage, plus he has 57 turnovers over his 4 year career. Everything you wrote are just excuses why he is a bottom tier QB. That isn’t the right number. Considering that he is a turnover machine. 1 season doesn’t take away how terrible of a passer he is, can’t read defenses so he just takes off and runs. There’s not much of quality watching him play.

[@Oozywolf]

@@jguterrez01 There's also no denying that they simply lucked out. The ball bounced their way a LOT in those games. Crazy fumbles and whatnot. They proceeded to lose most of their games after that 7-1 start. I don't think the DJ contract is "bad" but I don't think it's good either. They'll be an 8-9 or so team in purgatory.

[@zregory]

If he's worth 160 Lamar's worth 250

[@WarrenFranceSportsNetwork]

Lol. They didn’t want to give him 5th year option at 25m max, but were willing to give him 40m a year after throwing 15td in 17 games. You tell me if they overpaid…

[@Ash-lf6to]

Also had 7 rushing Td's and over 700 rush yards. He proved last year he has real value and has a legit playoff win after all the reconstruction the Giants have gone through since he got there. I don't believe he is the answer either but he has shown a lot of improvement.

[@isaiahh4108]

That was last year before they even knew him and way to avoid the 700 yd and 7tds on the ground

[@lord-marroking1315]

@@Ash-lf6to Daniel Jones has always been athletic but at least you acknowledge he is not the answer. But athleticism won’t always be there. He’s got to be a better passer which he never will be. Unless he turns out to be like Geno Smith and starts thriving later in his career

[@gs3635]

@@lord-marroking1315 he’s a viable starter so he’ll always be trade able and will be relatively cheap in 2 years. I think it was an overpay too, but it’s not awful. They can keep building the team up so they can actually compete in the playoffs and can get a new QB when it’s ready

[@hv6897]

They paying 19m this year and 38m next year comes out less than 5th year and a non ex franchise tag. This is better

[@cjgameon264]

This was Joy's best take ever!! She has drastically improved on her takes.

[@reidx512]

She has, she was so bad at one point. I have learned so much from her recently.

[@worstbehaviorstories]

@@reidx512 that’s what happens when you get off from under Colin Cowherd. He’s the bad take king.

[@williamholloway5789]

That wasn’t her best take ever…

[@williamholloway5789]

I will say Joy deserve her own show

[@reidx512]

@@williamholloway5789 yeah, sometimes she is predicable. I do see how the men sit and listen and are very careful with her. Sometimes, she can be off, but I am very proud of her. She makes women of color seem "heard" when it comes to sports.

[@anthonycampos8057]

Hes getting paid the same money Dak is getting. The thing is, Dak is a 4th rd pick and Daniel Jones is 1ST RD PICK. Arent you alittle embarrassed if you're Jones?

[@donsaderfield83]

Yes. the Cowboys should be embarrassed.

[@anthonycampos8057]

@@donsaderfield83 why? He's a better QB than Jones

[@jameshendersoniii9053]

Yes they overpaid but 90% of quarterbacks are going to get overpaid

[@lucasmartinez5703]

He could be steal on that contract when he gets better.

[@mostwantedthief]

​@@lucasmartinez5703 its a two year deal could be even more expensive if he gets better

[@lucasmartinez5703]

Well if he gets better, then it being more expensive is a good problem..

[@jameshendersoniii9053]

​@@lucasmartinez5703 AS a Giants fan I hope he gets better. That mean the team got better.

[@MJ-gw2zu]

They don't get paid to perform, they get paid to follow a coordinated script, being the 3rd ring of the ringmasters

[@17thN.O]

I can't believe it, but I've actually come around on Daniel Jones. He works in that system, with Brian Daboll and for the Giants.

[@DCMorgueee]

Throwing 15TDs works? The run game and defense CARRIED THEM ALL YEAR. This generation full of recency bias nut riders, DJ cheeks.

[@pawrestlingchamp]

And you’re paying 40 million a year for a guy that is a system QB?

[@zregory]

When do we start praising quarterbacks for being a system quarterback?

[@worstbehaviorstories]

@@pawrestlingchamp don’t forget they’re paying 40 million for a guy who can’t even win his division. He’s a wildcard QB.

[@DCMorgueee]

@@zregory you know that’s never going to happen a Unanimous MVP can’t even get a proper payday.

[@markymark512]

This is a crazy overpay

[@TheRealVoice912]

Acho stole that stat from Nick 😂

[@markula_4040]

Daniel Jones had a breakout season... and finished 13th in passer rating behind Ryan Tannehill and Andy Dalton. Just seems like making him the 7th highest paid player in the league is a bit much especially if the Giants finish 6-11 next year which would surprise no one.

[@Ervinnd]

Jones was top 10 last year he was number one at not giving the other team the ball. He carried a trash offense on his back to a playoff victory.

[@adverseinperpetuity]

Very stupid take

[@jguterrez01]

@@Ervinnd what games where you watching. How the F do you carry an offense with 15 passing tds. What carried this team was Barkley and the running and timely defense. 7-1 the first 8 games due the the running ranking in the top 5, when the running game struggled due the injuries on the oline and team putting 9 men in the box the team went 2-6-1 so please stop the bs.

[@ginotarraga]

@@jguterrez01 what game where YOU watching lol he was clutch on 3rd down, converted crucial 4th downs and drove down the field when we needed to score. Teams stacked the box because they knew his WRs can’t get any separation. Just another DJ hater who doesn’t bother watching the games.

[@jjdibiase2228]

6-11 your out of your mind.

[@blueprintent]

This show is def getting better. Chemistry is growing and its showing.

[@creaturecore13]

"What you cant do is not have a quarterback", Giants just spent 40 mil a year and still dont have one.

[@obynoomere1280]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Ervinnd]

You're not very smart Jones was top 10 last year he was number one at not giving the other team the ball now go practice falling down.

[@poppsosa6289]

@@Ervinnd with 15 tds in 17 games 😂😂

[@Terrance919]

@@poppsosa6289 that is trash lol

[@MacGrath]

@@poppsosa6289 and more playoff wins than at least 24 other starting QB’s

[@nlbgaming5262]

Why they keep saying he never thrown my TDs in a season then games his rookie year he played like 12 games and thrown 24 TDs makes no sense

[@jeremy95ize]

He threw 24 touchdowns his rookie year

[@mojosiesta9821]

In 12 starts

[@keenannash2947]

With 24 turnovers...

[@wtaylor44]

I guess they forgot how Jones played in 13 games his rookie year and threw for 24 TD’s and rushed for another 2 🙄

[@jguterrez01]

Guess you forgot he also had 24 total turnovers that same year, yeah not good.

[@dlindy9143]

Honestly, it's not a bad deal. The giants only pretty much guaranteed money through the first 2 years. If he gets worse or doesn't improve, they can dump him after 2 seasons. There are plenty of incentives for Jones if he exceeds the contract as well and earns more pay.

[@yamamancha]

The conversation should be this level headed about Lamar as well. People are all in their feelings over his contract.

[@TheBrysenj]

Lamar rubbing his hinds like birdman 😆

[@donsaderfield83]

Noone wants Lamar

[@TheBrysenj]

@@donsaderfield83 whose your team?

[@marciamolumby8935]

ROFLOL The giants overpaid for a below average QB

[@davidburks4657]

2019 DJ threw for 24 TDs + 2 rushing 2TDs in 13 games

[@LIVEfrmHOU]

We all understand QB is more important than RB but to choose to pay Jones over Barkley is insane.

[@thomasbrereton5858]

Lol. Daniel Jones is not worth 40 million!

[@josephavila9699]

Paying Daniel Jones to me is wild.

[@nathanpapp432]

2:09 Nick Wright brought up this stat today also, and its 100% false. Jones threw for 24 TD's his rookie year. Its extremely easy to look that up and verify it.

[@genghiskaitiemuzhen564]

Signing players is an investment for future plays not for past plays.

[@bobbypinkston9374]

I don’t think Daniel Jones is the truth or anything, but I’d be curious to see him with Dabol and a fully healthy receiving core. They don’t have a real #1, but they have some solid #2 and #3 guys they can build on. At days end, Jones is serviceable and he’s cut down on mistakes that cost you games. That’s worth paying, and he’s a QB so you’re just going to overpay.

[@micahwilliams1219]

3/4 of the league was either mid or below mid. Him making it to the playoffs means nothing. Literally anyone could get in. Dude is kid besides his legs. He a rb at most. Maybe a water boy 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mikeshorter8970]

Definitely And They Will Regret It

[@Ervinnd]

Nope

[@lord-marroking1315]

Yep watch these dumb NY fans calling for him to be cut next year.

[@ralphpal]

Why. It's a 2 year contract

[@yoelvis2424]

yeah mike they will regret it the guy had no receivers and made the playoffs and won a game and his number 1 wr was picked up week 7 from the bills practice squad stop hating you and the media are just hater learn the QB market before you talk.....

[@BHKGames0]

@@yoelvis2424 honestly dude is obviously the 3rd best qb in his own division, and repeatedly gets stomped by the cowboys and eagles every year. what reason do we have to believe that year 5 will be any different

[@jamaalhoward494]

Daniel Jones getting 160 & lamar getting a franchise tag for 32 million wtf were the giants thinking offer lamar a 3yr guaranteed 145 million deal

[@jamaalhoward494]

@@jrg9638 it's worth it with the pieces they have already

[@OscarUnrated]

Acho what?? DJ had 24 passing TDs his rookie year, did he play 25 games??

[@mikeenglish3212]

....yeah let's skip over the fact that he threw 24 in his rookie year. With two terrible coaching regimes and rosters (and add a few injuries in there). He's progressed and gotten better every year. Kid has the right work ethic, personality and desire to win. Let's see how this works out instead of dissecting his contract

[@amberreed4443]

Other people have had bad coaches and situations. Most didn't look as bad as DJ. Its funny how some people are given so much leeway but others are criticized and shown the door even after playing well for a decent amount of time. I'd argue he's not top 10 and should not be getting top 10 money.

[@garethjohnson8579]

I get people are saying shouldn't keep him and how good is he, but who else you going to get who is better on the market this year? They made the playoffs, yes ok they probably won't win a superbowl with Jones, but they consistently make the playoffs going forward thats an improvement. Remember as much as these teams are sports teams, they are also businesses. And to make real money, you have to be relevant. Sometimes it isn't all about winning the superbowl, because that is a hard thing to do, so you stay relevent for years and become a stable decent franchise and maybe 1 year you get lucky and make it

[@dxvdmb]

He had 24 passing TDs in his first season 🤣 how’s that not more than the games he’s played

[@silverandblk75]

Has more playoff wins than Carr who y’all spent yesterday caping for 😂

[@WordsMatter1982]

Always interesting how different organizations view their qbs. One organization can't wait to low ball their running qb, even with an MVP on his ledger. Another organization is willing to pony up for a guy with a horrible win loss record, no awards, and far fewer passing touchdowns than the supposed "running qb".

[@Ervinnd]

Amazing how Jones carried a trash offense on his back to a playoff victory while Lamar with a stacked team has the same playoff record but wants to get paid way more.

[@lord-marroking1315]

@@ErvinndI get what you are saying but the Ravens aren’t stacked. But I do agree with the point you are making.

[@lord-marroking1315]

The ravens would be stupid to offer over 230 guaranteed. How much did Jones get guaranteed? I wouldn’t say the giants ”ponied up” the money for him at $80 million guaranteed.

[@tyleraviles4518]

Which baffles me why the giants didn’t just grab Lamar . Oh wait Mara doesn’t want a black qb lol

[@Ervinnd]

@@tyleraviles4518 Why would Giants pay more for a QB that's not as good as Jones? Black or white.

[@aprilgillmore7568]

How can acho say no one expected him to be a franchise QB at 8:05 when he was drafted in the TOP 10 if not the TOP 5?!?!? Who drafts that high and says we just want a solid or very good BACKUP QB?!?!!? WHAT?!?!?!! 😂 😂 😂

[@ronnieroyal9893]

Joy keep it 200% 💯👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@boysilver2556]

Except her analogy is all wrong. "You have to have a flight to get to your destination." No Joy, Daniel Jones is not a airplane and he can't fly. He's a rental car that takes three days to get there. And by that time the game's over and his team's already lost.

[@kylewatson4900]

You think so....She just makes a bunch of surface arguments to me....Nothing really in-depth....she's pretty tho...

[@kylewatson4900]

@Boy Silver They're good when they have experts on like Mangini, but all the debate shows are pretty much the same...They are trying to give catchy or click bait opinions, not expert analysis...

[@kylewatson4900]

@Henry Street lol, So style over substance....what could ever go wrong with that concept...

[@amberreed4443]

@@boysilver2556 Right. Her argument was stupid.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

He beat the Kirk Cousins Vikings!! Let not over react .

[@russellseaton2014]

I'm not sure that is something you would really want to put on your resume. The Vikings did win a lot of games last year. But there was always a lot of doubt until the clock hit double zeroes. Every Vikings win was unbelievable until it officially happened and the Vikings could not lose it.

[@steel749]

The Vikings had that paper thin defense too. Jones better be sending some of that contract money over to Minnesota haha

[@tomvan6008]

Minny had a horrible defense, it was the offense that was 8th in scoring and hence the close games the defense gave up more points than the offense scored and their offense were 8th in the league. If Minny had even an average defense they would have won more.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

@@steel749 pretenders

[@brianchristopher4666]

Lamar is now holding out for like 50mil a year for 5, minimum!!! Ravens appreciate the payout pressure!. Thx NY!!

[@Soccercrazyigboman]

I like how everyone is clowning this move. Who exactly has DJ had to throw to?

[@donaldphillips5350]

Absolutely right bro!!!

[@russellseaton2014]

There was this bum kid named Kadarius Toney playing for the Giants. He caught a few passes, 39, for about 400 yards in 2021. But he caught almost nothing in 2022, so the Giants wisely threw him away to the Chiefs because he wasn't any good. I heard he made a couple plays for the Chiefs in a game played in February 2023.

[@jguterrez01]

@@russellseaton2014 oh you taking about the kid that the coaches reached out to him because he was the only player that didn't show up to camp even the coaches and the GM told hi. He had a clean slat. The same that couldn't play because he was always hurt and faking injuries. That guy, yeah now thanks another bad Gettlemen draft pick.

[@jguterrez01]

Again he only had 15 passing tds and if it wasn't for that Colts game he would have finished the season with 13 passing tds. Please any starting level QB can throw 15 Tds in his sleep. Also let's not forget that there were a lot of missed WRs and passes thrown behind wrs too.

[@soda8736]

​@@jguterrez01 yet Lamar had 17 this year and 16 last and he's a god to most people.

[@ejmontero1962]

Mitch Tribusky is punching the air rn

[@jfacts192]

Yes the Giants overpaid for Daniel Jones. He’s not worth $40 millions a year. The Giants have a poorly run front office.

[@anonymouszero9422]

But a 19 million cap hit isn't much. They have room to get recivers

[@lamarbowman7]

$82 million guaranteed 19 mil cap hit for 2023 They can still get who they want in free agency, this is a win for the Giants

[@nacholibre8628]

Ric butcher got it right !!!

[@jordanmedlin4265]

Totally agree

[@jordanmedlin4265]

Completely overpaid for Jones and I believe it’s gonna bite them in the long run

[@KMOSE500]

he did his rookie season....24 Tds 12 picks remember that Acho?

[@spoogtastic]

Her mortgage analogy doesn't work. They hoped they where getting a mansion when they drafted him, turns out it was a tiny shack....and then the mortgage is still for that mansion....you going to pay or find somewhere else to live?

[@amberreed4443]

Thank you! I keep saying this. That analogy was terrible.

[@paulkeys1216]

This is my honest opinion, I'm sure many may disagree, and that's definitely fine. Other than Patrick Mahomes, I don't see 1 QB on that list worth the money they're making. Again, my opinion.

[@postive-vibes]

He could evolve into an Eli Manning clone, but I'm not too sure about that. Not a huge fan of this deal, but the QB market is insane right now. I would have gone for Derek Carr and catapulted Jones into the Atlantic ocean.

[@rriver06]

How far did Derek Carr make it with Adams, Renfrow and Waller last season?

[@creaturecore13]

Eli was a top 15 QB at his best, Jones is a bottom 10 QB at his best but generally been bottom 5 so far.

[@maxtwersky9124]

@@creaturecore13 lmao. he was 6th in total qbr last year, 5th in completion percentage, 22 tds/ 5 interceptions 700 rushing yards, with one of the worst o-lines and definitely the worst receiving core. You a clown and don't know football.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

He can't be an Eli clone. Jones is way better athletically.

[@pussydestroyer87]

The time to move on was when Herbert was sitting there for the taking.

[@CalobAdamsInfamous913]

One of the few takes where I agree with Acho. Daniel Jones did not prove he is a franchise quarterback and $40 Million is way too much. He didn’t do anything to move the needle. It was the coach. He wasn’t productive.

[@ItsJustMir]

Wasn’t productive? They made the playoff with him at QB In a “rebuild year” and won convincingly against what most say top tier QB led teams. If you wanna say mid ok that’s fine but don’t say unproductive

[@awesome7135]

Bruh how you excluded his 24 tds his rookie year 😂

[@excellingdeicide2967]

With daniel jones current REGRESS of only sixteen touchdown passes🚮🗑🥉🤔

[@excellingdeicide2967]

Also, Danny derps 23 TURNOVERS which you casually ignored🤔💯

[@dogecoinbrothermouzone2500]

YES THEY DEFINITELY OVERPAID I DOUBT HE EVER GETS PAST DIVISIONAL PLAYOFF ROUND ….

[@josephheenan1695]

Giants winning the sb next year buddy 😹😹😹

[@CalebJohnston]

​@@josephheenan1695 😂🤣 giants fans are the literal funniest people in the world.

[@olsen204]

That’s why it’s an opt out at 2 years if it doesn’t work out. I’d say he’s a kid tier qb around 12-18 in the league. This contract will be around the 12th qb mark in a year or two. If he works out it’ll be a deal going into year three.

[@deehollywood6013]

Shady said said Saquon is the offense but 40 million A year is a good number for Daniel Jones. Make that make sense.

[@isaiahh4108]

As in only weapon

[@SirWafflees]

It's just like Tannehill and the Titans. Yes the offense is Derrick Henry but you need a QB and you have to pay that qb at market value.

[@deehollywood6013]

@Dustin Motley you don't pay your QB $40M if he isn't the engine to your offense. No one's paying Ryan Tannihill like that. Daniel Jones hasnt even hit Ryan Tannihll level performance in his career!

[@isaiahh4108]

@@deehollywood6013 Tannehill and Henry hit the market and it went the same way w/ Jones and Saquon no one told the gym to sign Bud Dupree and trade AJ Brown they were the 1 seed

[@cjgameon264]

Yeah, they did but it's not as bad as it seems. I was looking at around $30-$35 million but $40 isn't too bad.

[@clarkkent1521]

Grossly overpaid. If Jones is good because of Daboll, then pay Daboll and get him a better QB. Why is money being thrown at Daniel Jones? Makes. No. Sense.

[@willbanks-fm8vl]

Alot of times a player gets paid they wind up being injury prone or they numbers start to decline.

[@mansamusa7927]

If he was black he would be called a running back dude is not a starter in this league

[@prodigy513]

Athletes First is the best agency in the league.

[@AlchemicalAudio]

That chart with the highest paid QBs is proof that salary is not commiserate with talent or statistical output. None of the top 4 highest paid QBs were top 10 QBs this season… That is an insane stat… From that list, only Mahomes and Allen were top ten. Herbert, Burrow, Hurts and Lawrence will be getting paid and the list will surely change… Time will tell how the Jones contract stacks up, but, it looks like a whole lot of money for a guy who can’t take over a game by himself…

[@sindilacion]

They get a chance to improve the team with him.. if he fails they release him with like a 10 million dollar cap hit after year 2. 35 million of that contract is incentive based as well.

[@scottym.9077]

The QB “market” has inflated to the point where you can’t afford to field the average veteran QB and still afford to get him protection, weapons, and a defense. It’s unsustainable, and we have more than enough data to conclude that paying your QB (unless his name is Patrick Mahomes) 15%+ of your cap will cause your team to irrecoverably regress within a year or two. Most of the QBs who are making deep playoff runs are either on the rookie scale or are value QBs with sub-$30M contracts.

[@rubencasanova6144]

It’s relevant because of their cap situation.

[@esils]

Give DJ a number one WR and he will be just fine. 🤝 Made it to the playoffs without one already. 💡

[@Dre-Z-3000]

Jordan Addison + Daniel Jones= Super Bowl Material

[@ajhaynes5721]

@@Dre-Z-3000 Addison is plenty good enough to be a top notch #1. He won’t be tho. He’s a really good #2.

[@josephclark7814]

The didn’t mention his rookie year when he put up 24 passing TDs in 12 games. He was on pace for 34 total TDs his rookie year over 16 games. Had a passing TD each game and multiple games of 3+ passing TDs.

[@excellingdeicide2967]

Sixteen touchdown passes..........🚮🗑🤔💯

[@youtubeistryingtocensorme]

How many interceptions did he throw that year?

[@tyd7540]

No one talks about all the dropped touchdown passes

[@dougmiyamoto3109]

Shady, if as a former athlete, you can't keep it real in regards to current athletes, you shouldn't be an analyst.

[@youtubeistryingtocensorme]

Shady Mccoy is the worst analyst

[@Ash-lf6to]

I will say as side note it's crazy how no one talks about how fast and mobile Jones is. Dude blazes past people at top speed. He isn't the shiftiest guy but he can for sure smoke you in a track meet.

[@nicstone3141]

15 TDs passing they way over paid

[@ktmoney5680]

Yea his straight line speed is pretty good

[@Ash-lf6to]

@@nicstone3141 also 7TD’s on the ground as well as over 700 rushing yards. He didn’t put up monster numbers but he was efficient and only had 5 interceptions. Lastly, I would hope you are keeping the same energy with Lamar considering they now both have one playoff win and Jones is on a overall worse team top to bottom.

[@lord-marroking1315]

Rushing tds don’t mean anything man. So aside from this season how many winning seasons has he had with him “blazing past people at top speed” and “smoking people in a track meet”? You don’t pay 40 million a year for him to be a running back you can pass a little. 🤦‍♂️

[@lucasmartinez5703]

"Rushing Td's don't matter." Yeah points on the board don't mean squat.

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

Bengals GM punching the wall after seeing what danny dimes and carr just got paid... knowing he's got burrow in the pipeline that he has to pay

[@anthonyslazas6413]

Both those guys have nothing to do with Joe's contract, pay him top dollar make him happy so he'll want to stick around

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

@@anthonyslazas6413 you obviously don't understand how NFL contracts work, my guy. the "next man up" always look as the most recent contracts signed and says "well, i'm better than player X and player Y, so i want more $$" that's how it works bud.

[@mourka01]

​@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 burrow prob do team friendly qbs who wanna win super bowls do.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 you don't understand the square block goes into the square hole not not the round one! IDIOT

[@CalebJohnston]

​@@mourka01 he won't. Why should he?

[@cedric4610]

They don't keep this energy with Lamar's contact situation. Shady just said during negotiations you don't always get what you want but you meet in the middle but with Lamar, the Ravens should just pay everything he wants? Makes no sense.

[@andrewswing9917]

Communication is key. Lamar said and I quote, "The guaranteed isn't the issue, " hmmm. Me being a human only way I can decipher that is. Accountability. Someone(s) hasn't taken Accountability.

[@trevorlund8282]

Because Daniel jones is not an mvp caliber player unlike Lamar??? 😂

[@cedric4610]

@@andrewswing9917 Then what's the issue? If he doesn't want a guaranteed contract, what does he want? Everyone placing the onus on the Ravens and saying they didn't make a good faith offer but its been reported they offered him 250/5 with 133 at signing with 180 overall guaranteed and I bet they boosted that 180 to 190. So what is Lamar waiting for?

[@cedric4610]

@@trevorlund8282 He isn't but that's not the point. Name me an MVP QB that has gotten a guaranteed contract?

[@pussydestroyer87]

Makes sense to me.

[@3Ddex]

Joy is the smartest person in the room

[@MoreNYGPlease]

Love how we forget the Year 1's 24-12. Just to fit the narrative. Very Classy. Mind you Daboll (year 4)> Pat(year 1)>> Judge (years 2 and 3)

[@cbcd4546]

$40M for a career loser! He aint give us a hometown discount? What dude mean, sign him now? With the tag? NYGs moving crazy..

[@jguterrez01]

If what they are saying is right his cap hit is only 19mil this upcoming year which is lower then the 25 mil had we exercise his 5th option and we can cut after the second year if he stinks like he has the last 4 years.

[@freddygaulman5493]

Rodgers 50 Mil: 1 ring from 2010 Wilson 48 Mil: 1 ring from 2014 Murray 46 Mil: 0 rings Watson 46 Mil: 0 rings Allen: STILL 0 RINGS

[@jeremy95ize]

Kadarius toney didn’t really do anything with the chiefs yeah he played well in the superbowl but other than that he was injured

[@7bean052]

Bro I hate how people only look at his passing touchdowns like he ain’t have rushing touchdowns at all, but if Lamar scores on the ground it’s the same thing? Touchdowns are touchdowns and Danny scores touchdowns

[@micahwilliams1219]

Don’t compare that bum to a mvp player. Casual

[@jguterrez01]

Jones tds in his career, 24, 11, 10 and 15 yeah that's really scoring tds.

[@micahwilliams1219]

@Matt EP I wish I could bet you 1 million, that if we had a draft today, teams would easily pick Lamar all day. Stop saying dumb stuff just because it sounds good. They both can run and you say Danny is the better passer. Why would teams still rather choose Lamar over Danny? You’re a 🤡

[@soda8736]

​@@micahwilliams1219 Lamar's numbers over the pass 2 years been alot closer to Jones than , Mahomes , Allen , abd Burrow.

[@micahwilliams1219]

@@soda8736 with his receiving core and terrible schemes by the OC. I wouldn’t doubt. Could those QBs carry the ravens to playoffs back to back with nobodies? You cannot subtract greatness from this kid. Let me help you. Imagine of this kid was white. Deal would’ve been done 2 years ago and surrounded him around pieces within the 4 years of his rookie contract. Can’t say injuries prone when he’s only getting injured because of the line. When joe got hurt because of the line, you can’t say he’s injury prone. You have to protect your Qb. He can improve but he’s clearly Top 5 Qb.

[@tyderrick85]

Burrow, herbert and hurts are rubbing their hands right now.

[@ralphpal]

Why yes but then Herbert blew a 24 pt lead Also what happens when you take away their toys ? How many more TDs did hurts have then D Jones last year And now tell me the WRs again Please look it up

[@mostwantedthief]

50M

[@Cam-ch2mg]

Lmao goes good deal but Barkley is the offense

[@RslashDA]

Did you say Jones had a better year then Carr? How? Carr had more yards TDs and yes interceptions. Jones had legs but he also had a coach on his side and a line better then carrs. Carr was benched with 2 games left and still was a better qb then Jones who had more games. Giants Def is better then raiders too. 40 million for Jones is a slap in the face to real qbs and I hope this backfires hard. Hurts is also in this category because he wasn't much better then Carr and all of a sudden after saying he should be traded last year is praised for no reason

[@BHKGames0]

The Danial Jones excuses are mind boggling to me

[@justinfletcher7630]

These guys all still crus dallas for what thy pay dak which is identical and yet your going to pretend this is ok.. he shouldn't have gotten more than 27 28

[@renegade1491]

Yet they don't wanna pay Lamar🙄👀👀👀

[@pussydestroyer87]

The Giants would have given Lamar that contract.

[@mikehatten5738]

I like Daniel Jones just one of those likeable humble hard workers you can’t root against just like a jalen hurts. Guys you hate to see lose you want them to win. Giants see that too he’s a good clean cut kid and saquon loves him who is the face of the franchise. And daboll was just testing him this year seeing what he can handle next year will open up the playbook and have him really shine.

[@BrokeRichAnt7]

THANK YOU JOY!!! 😊😊😊 The Voice Of Reason As Usual No Doubt!!!!!!!! 👍🏾👍🏾

[@emilyloving8948]

Dude really averages less than a td a game lol you can plug almost anyone in and do that

[@johnnybgood7442]

Lol they aren't paying Saquon even if he kills it next year. They will either tag and trade him or low ball him. Paying running backs isn't smart.

[@creaturecore13]

Paying running backs isnt smart, neither is giving a bad QB 40 mil a year.

[@FREETHINKER-05]

All the Daniel Jones cheerleaders that want to justify the huge overpay only reference the 24 TDs in his first season because he hasn’t improved the following three seasons, he’s actually been very mediocre since. He’s not a good passer, his only upside is his running ability, which will never win him or the Giants anything.

[@Alpha-pe7nz]

Sports media is really declining

[@aprilgillmore7568]

Jones reminds me of another Alex Smith

[@dwmjr2253]

Make Saquon earn it! Make Daniel Jones earn it!🤷

[@SaintProd.]

Gotta name the line too. Giants offensive line has been a revolving door for a decade, it simply ran Eli manning into retirement whether you think eli was good or not...

[@GeraldM_inNC]

DJ is a religious cult. He receives 100% of the credit for a win and 0% of the blame for a loss. When he puts up poor yardage, it's always called the receivers' fault -- not that every player on the other team's D know exactly where the ball is going. There's no reasoning with them. He looks like Eli Manning so he must be just as good. Granted that he's improved, but it's improvement from being a marginal starter to a mediocre one. I put him in the 20s of QBs. Frankly, I think Mike White is just as good and the Giants probably could've signed White for $15 mil. I don't expect the Giants to make the players any of the next four seasons with a mediocre QB being paid like a top 5 QB.

[@caper087]

160 and only half of its guarantee.. Whynot just sign him to a 2 year full guarantee 82 million dollar deal lol

[@ralphpal]

Cause he if is really good then 40 million will be low in 3 years

[@jguterrez01]

Because if the salary cap, if you franchise him the full 32.5 counts against the cap but by signing him to their contract the cap hit this upcoming year will only be 19mil which is cheaper than the guaranteed 25mil had they approved the 5th option on the contract. I don't like the signing buy the contract benefits the Giants and if after 2 years he shows that his isn't any good the Giants can cut him and not have it affect their salary cap.

[@ralphpal]

@Jose G I understand but then there might be bad blood . They wanted to show him he is being trusted. The giants aren't 2 years away This gives them a chance to really rebuild Now they have a 4 year window Which would be year 5 for them What happens in 2 years if he makes the playoffs and wins 2 games in the playoffs What do you do

[@TheShawn2627]

They paid him Drew Brees money, Daniel Jones throws a average of 12 tds yearly, drew Brees threw a average of 41 tds yearly! They overpaid by a huuuuuuuge margin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AlejandroGonzalez-ny75]

But what were the WRs that Jones had to deal with? come on.

[@garriethsmith8362]

No one should ever bring up Dak or his contract again