Did God Create Evil? A Misunderstood Bible Verse: Isaiah 45:7

[@Angel-nh5by]

"If ever you find that God and you are at odds, you're wrong." That's sooo true...

[@DigitalResurrection]

Amen

[@GODemon13]

Unless your idea of God comes from the bible which says God commands us to kill disobedient children, people who work on Sabbath and adulterers and homosexuals. You bible worshipers are down right EVIL!!!

[@DigitalResurrection]

@@GODemon13 In the Mosaic law, Israelites who broke the command against working on the Sabbath faced the death penalty. This penalty not only underscored the supreme importance of observing a holy day of rest as a sign of Israel’s covenant relationship with God but also established a symbolic truth regarding God’s eternal rest. In Exodus 35:2, as Israel was about to embark on the work of building the tabernacle, Moses gathered all the people together and said, “For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a day of sabbath rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death.” This passage reiterates the Sabbath observance that the Lord had given to Israel through Moses in Exodus 31:12-18 and earlier in Exodus 20:8-11 and Exodus 16:21-26. Observing the Sabbath was an important sign of the covenant between God and His people. Failure to observe this critical symbol of the covenant was such a serious breach of the relationship that it was assigned a penalty of death. Up to this point, Israel had a proven track record of either forgetting or disobeying God’s commands. In the people’s excitement to begin constructing the tabernacle, it was imperative that worship not be overlooked even to do praiseworthy work. For putting work before the Lord was a challenge to His authority. Thus, the death penalty emphasized the seriousness of maintaining fidelity to the solemn pledge between the people and God. Gathering sticks in itself is not wrong. It could be for the purpose of providing fire for warmth or cooking. The problem is that a man was deliberately and flagrantly gathering sticks in the open on the Sabbath day when God had commanded that no work be done on the Sabbath. This was a direct challenge to God’s authority. Keeping the Sabbath was a sign for the people of Israel, but it also holds symbolic significance to all those who are in covenant relationship with the Lord. New Testament believers are under a new covenant and no longer required to keep the Sabbath as a legalistic day with rules about no work; however, the principle of prioritizing time to worship and honor God remains. When we give preeminence to God, we acknowledge to ourselves and others that He is Lord over our work, our time, and our lives. To fully understand the spiritual significance of the Sabbath, it is necessary to see its connection to the rest of God. The creation account records that God, after creating the heavens and the earth in six days, rested on the seventh day (Genesis 2:2-3). This rest of God teaches us that the Creator graciously set an example for how we His creatures are to spend and enjoy a regular day of rest from our labors. But there is a deeper meaning to this phrase. God’s rest points to a spiritual rest for us-the joy of heaven forever with God-that comes through faith in Jesus Christ and obedience to Him (Hebrews 4:1-10). If we do not rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross, we remain spiritually dead. Under the Old Covenant, the Jewish people labored to make themselves acceptable to God but, of course, were unable to keep all of God’s laws. The sacrifices required by the law had to be repeated again and again to allow sinners to approach a Holy God. The elaborate but inadequate system was designed to point to the Messiah, Jesus Christ, who would offer “once for all time one sacrifice for sins.” After Jesus completed His mission at Calvary, He sat down and “rested” at the right hand of God (Hebrews 10:1-14). Because of Christ’s completed work on the cross, believers no longer have to labor to be right with God but can enter into His rest (Hebrews 9:11-14). Jesus is our Sabbath Rest, and in Him we cease from our toils and find complete rest from our self-effort. We rest in Christ, not just one day a week, but always. The consequence of continuing our work when we should be resting in Christ is death-foreshadowed by the death penalty for Israelites working on the Sabbath. For Israel, keeping the Sabbath was a sign of obedience to God’s covenant. Those who did not observe the Sabbath by ceasing from work were by their actions openly proving that they were not partners in the agreement. On the other hand, those who faithfully kept the Sabbath made a public show of their resolute faithfulness to the Lord of the Sabbath. The weekly Sabbath is also a symbolic reminder of God’s divine, eternal rest, and the death penalty for working on the Sabbath pointed to the fate of unbelievers who refuse to enter God’s rest through the atoning death of Jesus Christ on the cross.

[@GODemon13]

@@DigitalResurrection Too long didn't read. The bible is evil. That's all you need to know.

[@timisa58]

Ugh. What a terrible statement to make. No wonder EVERY religious faith makes this claim. It's to control and prevent considering objectivity.

[@SimoneMarie4]

My friends and I had a long conversation about this! Awesome to have additional information. I love the fact that i can have bible study all day every day with Mike Winger! Thank you very much! May God richly bless you. I am truly blessed by your videos!!! God bless.

[@miketuggle9273]

If God did not create evil and evil was created by some other being, then does that mean God is not in control? If God is in control he either created it or allowed it to be created. If not, If God did not will its creation or allowed for it to me says God is not in control. The other thing that I think about is if God did not create it, rahter it came from Satan. God created Satan and the Angels who fell with him. Did God not see that coming when he created these beings? If that is the case, then it sounds like God is not in control as he did not anticipate this. Or did God create these beings with the ability to do evil and if that is the case then evil has its root in an action from God.

[@heidibrown997]

Truly, this is going to the root. Did God make man and angels with the free will to choose Him. Yes, He did, and in that sense He made evil possible. But love is not love unless there is that freedom to chose. Angels knew full well the cost of rebelling against God. That to me is puzzling. While man can be deceived or blinded, Angels are not deceived but just what we would call rebellious. So even Angels obey God because they love God. God who had created Angels before making mankind, made man to be served by Angels, to judge Angels even. I believe from reading the Word, that is why Satan rebelled. The point you make is still true. However, God's plan is good, so good in fact, that we have have all eternity to praise His grace. We do see darkly not clearly for now, until faith shall be sight. Could it be, that none of us could appreciate God's goodness, love and kindness without the evil that Satan personifies. In conclusion, God is our Father to love, to be in awe of and worship. Since He IS GOOD, then all His plans are good.

[@rebeccamiller9558]

Mike. I've been binge watching your sermons. I appreciate the chapter by chapter, verse by verse content, especially in an age when it is tempting to paraphrase all for the sake of "evangelism"

[@cathywestholt5324]

I binge watch as well. I have for the greatest portion of my free time forsaken TV, and watch hours of Mike's teaching.

[@BabyDoIIx]

I can’t say I “binge” but I do watch 2-3 ish videos per week, & Mike is one of my favorites, because unlike so many others...despite if he may agree w/ some, he goes way out of his way to make sure they, & we know that he never means any disrespect, or harm. Mike has such a kind heart for people, & you can just feel that he truly believes what he says, I just know Mike is a Godly man, if the camera is rolling, or he’s alone at home not filming. He’s so genuine. I don’t agree w/ him on everything... but I don’t respect many other Pastors more than Mike. He’s wonderful, & a great role model to us all!!! And, yeah... TV is just horrible...especially in the last I’d say... 10 years or so...? It used to be an escape, now it’s basically used as political propaganda, & social programming ...it’s pretty much many young peoples mind now days. They are taught, & raised by TV & it’s really heartbreaking... I’ve not commonly sat down & watched more than 10+ hours of TV per week in I’d say over 6-7 years now, & I don’t miss it ONE BIT!!! It’s a waste of time really, & all that doesn’t include the commercials which are a nightmare in their own right!! =P P.s. I’m curious what you ladies think of another Pastor I really enjoy (he’s more of an educator than a preacher I’d say?? He does so many debates) his name is, James White. He’s a Calvinist, which I am not... but he’s so incredibly intelligent in apologetics, & just Theology (he preaches at his Church from a Greek N.T lol) in general. So while I don’t agree w/ James White either totally, he’s someone I love to watch speak on Religion!! I know many people, especially Mikes fan...they’re not big James White fans lol, was just curious :)

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Did He let Satan keep his powers POST EXILE? What's your point, here? Because it seems like - yes, He did...

[@chrissonofpear1384]

So, why DID Satan keep any angelic powers, and was HE trusted to know what good or evil was, BEFORE Adam and Eve were - or the wider stakes beyond, to two lives?

[@mr.frisbysministry9268]

@@chrissonofpear1384 Sorry Chris but I disagree with your answer to your question. Satan actually has zero power. Sin is squarely in mans court POST EXILE. We men are tempted and make our own choices. Satan has no power but what each man individually gives to him.

[@ericweathersby7924]

Sir. this was my first time ever seeing you on KZbin I typed in the question did God create evil and you were the most recent upload you are very wise you are very humble You're a very good man I will be listening to you from now on be blessed, in Jesus Name!💯😇🙏

[@chrissonofpear1384]

But how do we assess Leviticus 25:46 (and it's CENTURIES Of impact) as nought BUT evil?

[@kevinschaefer3945]

@@chrissonofpear1384 Presuming you are referring to the word "slave", we assess it by looking at the Hebrew word used. Here it is the word "ebed", which can be translated as "slave", but also "attendant", "servant" (indentured or otherwise) , "official" and "officer". As the context and tone of your question seem to be combative and accusatory, feel free to interpret it as you want, as most in your position are not open to reason and probably no explanation or facts will satisfy you.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@kevinschaefer3945 Somewhat relevant, but parse first all the verses that have non Hebrews treated DIFFERENTLY when in that same context, first. It would appear that loopholes allow them to be... retained, longer.

[@kevinschaefer3945]

@@chrissonofpear1384 Then here's something a bit broader for you: Regulating something is not synonymous with approval or endorsement. As an expression of His love, God gives us freedom to choose, i.e. we're not robots. Unfortunately, on our own, we are naturally proud and rebellious towards God and make poor decisions based on self-centeredness rather than God-centeredness. As God knows this, He will implement regulations in order to minimize the detrimental impact we have on each other. Jesus did the same regarding divorce (Matt. 19:3-9). This is not the same as approving of or endorsing an action.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@kevinschaefer3945 Regulating? And what of when they didn't need it at all, post 0 AD? Why leave an ambiguously worded concept around to be used as a weapon at all, thereafter? Or failing that, why not intervene on the scale of Numbers 15:32, when it DID start being misused or abused? And where do we get our rebelliousness from? Most of us cannot SEE this God, by default. ALL angels could though, in a perfect realm, and some of THEM were the first to rebel. Quite at odds with what Romans 1:20 implies. And I didn't see any 'minimizing' in much of the Inquisition, or Thirty Years War, either. Meanwhile, what does having a 'sin nature' hereditarily mean, or being born 'spiritually dead' - does that ever look like programmed behavior, at all...

[@dmonti20]

Very interesting 🤔! My first language is Spanish and in our translations the word used here is not “EVIL” but “ ADVERSITY”, “DISASTER”& “CALAMITY”! Great teaching Mike!

[@nowolvesministries9677]

But isn’t adversity and calamity EVIL ? This sounds like satan twisting words like he did in the Garden of Eden smh

[@mathieuswife3292]

I'm from Namibia and mother tongue is Oshiwambo. Our translation has is also not ''evil '' but ''curse '' 🤔

[@nowolvesministries9677]

@@mathieuswife3292 so a curse is not EVIL ? Smh

[@idongesitx1873]

@@nowolvesministries9677 adversity and calamity are nouns, evil is descriptive/adjective. They are not the same thing.

[@nowolvesministries9677]

@@idongesitx1873 lol it is when you are comparing in to something else in a sentence. He says this very simply… “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭45:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬ This is a very simple and to the point that he created one thing and the complete opposite of that things showing his true power on the earth. The problem is this isn’t basic information or a math problem it’s TRUTH from God or lies from satan. God is not the author of confusion he says what he says and those that believe simply believe. Then there are people like you who follow satan and listen to his nonsense and they act like children losing all comprehension skills to prove that they can’t even read or understand simple text . It’s funny to us but to God it’s blasphemy. Good luck calling God a liar I guess 🤷🏿‍♂️ smh

[@LisaLee__]

Really edifying teaching brother. Thank you and God bless you and your ministry. This was great and that reminder from Job, Amen to that.

[@felicianothorpe8998]

I think this was a great exegesis! May God's grace continue to flow through you to give his people understanding.

[@e.l.243]

Qiute right!

[@godlessblessings7020]

Hey, hey, *"exegesis?"* watch your language some of 73yr old whippersnappers are new here... I don't like anyone using the name of Jesus in vain! OOooops, my BAD that was JUST an "expository" comment about the video. I'll go home now.

[@naimsharif7795]

Feliciano Thorpe My Brother the spirit spook God of the bible is a flesh eating and blood thirsty being, the God or the Gods of the Caucasian's bible is not our Gods. Black people have our own Gods which are our parents, our grandparents, our great grandparents, and all of our ancient ancestors. Give the Caucasians back their spirit spook God, their bible, their Yashu'a (Jesus) and all of their other fictitious biblical characters and return to our ancient ancestors.

[@wtk6069]

Us critiquing God's methodology is like a four-year-old critiquing a electrical engineer in how to design a computer circuit.

[@melindamercier6811]

And even as well put as that is, the chasm between God and our finite understanding is far greater.

[@TheRealMonnie]

@Clayton Rogers huh?

[@TheRealMonnie]

@@melindamercier6811 I'm not so sure. 4 year olds have zero clue about electronics design. Pretty similar.

[@Divine_Mode]

@@melindamercier6811 I actually explain this quit often, a finite thing can’t truly perceive an infinite thing, it’s far beyond our understanding. We can only vaguely try to grasp it.

[@isaacmarshmallow8751]

I do hope that's not the default response you give to people who come to you with unresolved doubts.

[@sardinah70]

Loved the clarity of this explanation, my brother and I had this conversation last night, fellowship is mandatory for growth.

[@ReasonedAnswers]

I would suggest one reason (not the only one) for suffering is exactly the same as the man born blind - to allow the love of God to be made manifest. In other words, when someone is suffering it is our opportunity to demonstrate the love of God that is living in us by caring for the one who is suffering.

[@DarkArtDave]

I loved the pun Mike "Only the God of Israel Is Real" :D

[@angel77503]

I hope you are in israel otherwise gtfoh with that nonsense let the jews worship whatever they want in their country which by their same god dont have

[@boynton20]

Which god from any other religion revealed themselves to the world .

[@DarkArtDave]

@Mister Wake Up Call my God is awesome. He is greater than the sun because he created the sun. The God of Israel is the God of Everything else as well but obviously he was revealed through the Jewish people. Wasn't meant to cause offence to you, I just liked the pun he made.

[@deolenebosman5766]

@@angel77503 name Israel.... sounds like IS RAEL(real) get it? Its funny. 😅😂 The humour from Ps Mike is hilarious, but I usually feel sorry for him when theres no one IRL to laugh with him when he cracks these golden ones.

[@sandygrogg1203]

NKJV and ESV says “calamity”...

[@islanderxx5269]

My native tongue is faroese. In our translation of the old testament (translated from hebrew) it reads “misfortune” or, “ill fortune”. In line with your explanation. 👌

[@louiseleite3866]

Are you from the Faroe Islands?

[@trinchezito1383]

Demon/devil/Satan means to distribute fortune

[@Imaginathor-1k0]

Does the original scripture say that?

[@angelam6066]

Armenia, i think.

[@jseehowitsbeen3177]

I just read this chapter in Isaiah earlier today, and had written down this verse and a few others, and in the ESV (English Standard Version) it says “calamity” not evil. Seems like it lines up more with your translation.

[@lizjansevanrensburg5911]

Hi Mike, this is a first for me and truly you are a wise teacher. You did your homework well and beautifully and brilliantly executed the truth in an understandable and acceptable way. May all your teaching et people free !!! UNLIMITED BLESSINGS !!!

[@brandonmack8573]

Thank you for clearing it up for me on temptation. The sin i committed wilfully and continually knowing it was wrong now hits me harder then anything else. Jesus freed me from pornography and adultery but I still find myself being attacked by it worse then any other sin. Thankfully Jesus gives me strength to turn from my old ways

[@chrissonofpear1384]

How so? And do Natural Men get equal such ability, @brandon mack ?

[@MrBlonday]

I feel it bro, porn is hard not to watch and is a strong temptation, the things it does to your brain, its like a drug, it's very addicting but very gross and wrong and not good for you. But just keep submitting unto God and walk in the Spirit and pray about it. Walk in the Spirit and you will not feed the flesh :) it took a while for me to submit unto God again but dang it's nice, I feel good and whole

[@brandonmack8573]

@@chrissonofpear1384 he freed me from the slavery of my sin to porn and the spirit reminds me not to give in through fear of the Lord. I still get tempted that didn't go away

[@brandonmack8573]

@@MrBlonday thank you for the encouraging words I need them!

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@brandonmack8573 And as I said, do 'Natural men' (1 Corinthians 2:14) get equal such ability, or are they impaired before such? Given they never 'chose' to be natural men, also, from birth... that raises possible issues. Also, when comparing this to those claiming to 'free gay people from urges'... it seems the results could be a lot more variable, in outcome. Also, I assume 2 Samuel 12 and 1 Samuel 15:3 inspires much fear? And Jeremiah 2:30?

[@andsoitgoes1142]

MIKE, YOU shouldn’t be surprised that we are here. You are feeding God’s people. We just show up for the meal. Thank you and God bless you.

[@kimberleerivera1483]

Glory To GOD!!! Thank you Mike Winger! I am so very thankful and grateful to GOD for your ministry, it is a blessing!!!

[@puddleglummarshwiggle4236]

Please pray for my children's abusers to be caught and stopped and prosecuted to the full extent of the law and for my children to be brought home safely this year in Jesus's name.

[@carol-annroelofse4902]

Please Jesus Christ, you know just wat to do. Please intervene. May You be glorified. We thank You. We love You.

[@ethanrichard4950]

What's happened? I'll be praying for your children and for justice.

[@WonderlustThing]

There is no justice in this world

[@lyn9cook]

Jumping on line every week Mike, just not live. Truth presented joyfully! Love it. I thank Jesus for your ministry.

[@ΑθηνάΑλεξανδράκη-σ4μ]

Hi , am watching through u tube from Cyprus a Greek island, may God bless you

[@Pseudoornitologist]

I pressed “like” just because of “the God of Israel is real”😂Mike, you’re a genius

[@BrianH7]

God Is real in Israel, love it!

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@BrianH7 So what does, happen, to Palestine, next?

[@joeker7240]

Israel is a composite of Isis, Ra and El, not Re and Al. They are pagan gods.

[@randokun6430]

@@joeker7240 Your reaching Israel means contending with god in the herbrew language, stop trying to make Chstianity pagan.. Catholicism is pagan. Christianity is not exclusive to them they didnt make it..

[@davidholden7607]

Thank you, Mike, for unpacking this passage of Scripture. And God bless you, because I might have passed the rest of my days without hearing an explanation of the Euthyphro Dilemma.

[@fnjesusfreak]

I like this reading: "I form light and create darkness, I make weal and create woe, I am the LORD, who do all these things." Isaiah 45.7 RSV

[@lellyt2372]

@@InsanelyBaked this person (if indeed they are female and warrant your aiming this verse at their comment) didn't actually teach OR usurp any teaching given. They commented that they liked a particular translation of the verse in question in this video which did not use the word evil. Why are you using scripture to prove yourself unable to comprehend simple English? Why are you degrading the bible by showing yourself to be a fool ?

[@underwaves75]

@@lellyt2372 your words are not gracious or godly.

[@underwaves75]

God doesn’t treat the corruption of His word lightly. Here is a point in the right direction. Isaiah 45:7 “I forme the light, and create darkenesse: I make peace, and create euill: I the Lord do all these things.”

[@carladurland5194]

You are the first place i look when i have questions to ponder ✌💕🙏

[@jewishbride5010]

Good questions! Thank you for clarifying evil in relation to isaiah 45:7, I pray the body of Christ is able to fill in every void we are confronted with, in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!

[@curious011]

Ask any orthodox jew if god created evil.. they will tell you yes, He did. The problem here is that in Christianity if God created evil, it will destroy the entire framework of their religion. That is why you have to explain Isaiah 45 away. It's funny that jews wrote the scripture but christians tell jews they don't know what they are talking about. I think christians don't understand the old testament at all and have to work really hard to twist up parts of it to make their theology work in the first place. This is exactly what the gospel writers did and what paul did. to the point that the old testament was virtually twisted into just a shadow supporting jesus and Christian theology. If the assertion is that jesus was the messiah and son of God, you then take that assumption, work backwards from it, move into the old testament and say that certain things there prove their claim. It doesn't work, which is why jews did not accept jesus in the first place. Today, messianic jews are basically evangelical christians, trying to keep the law, implement christian theology and change their own old testament to make it work. As a jew, this video does not work. It is just saying to not trust the king james translation because evil was not what was meant. Other evangelicals who are king james only explains the passage away in a different way. The point is, if God created evil, christianity does not work . If God created evil, satan is not a fallen angel, there is not doctrine of original sin and there is no need for a savior.

[@jewishbride5010]

@@curious011 Man accepted sin, God accepted free will, although he warned. God is without boundaries, but God his creation is not. God bless you, in Christ his name and blood!

[@curious011]

@@jewishbride5010 Yes, but who created the evil that we can choose? Christians say evil comes only from satan. NOPE. In Job, God tells satan to go and test Job, permission to kill his servants and children. Satan can only do what God allows, that's it. In other words, if you die, God allowed it. If you get drowned, God allowed it. If you get killed in war, God allows it. If your parent go madd and kill you, God allowed it. See where this is going? God gives us free will and then says choose good. But HE PUT THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL in front of Adam. HE tempted him. The serpent comes later. Why would God put the tree there in the first place if he KNEW adam would sin? Then his plan is to sacrifice his own son when adam takes the bait and sins. What kind of nonsense plan is that ? He could have just said "I forgive you " but no, he has to kill his own son. This is nonsense and NO orthodox jew will ever believe it.

[@quantumfrost9467]

@@curious011 giving Adam and eve a choice is what God did. God can't just say, oh I forgive you since that isn't a just way to deal with evil

[@curious011]

@@quantumfrost9467 that's funny. We forgive people everyday and so does Jesus. So the Father cannot forgive but the Son can and does? Disobedience is not evil. If so then every time a child disobeys, they are evil? Nope.

[@BLAHhappy7]

I knew where you were going with the donut hole... then you said “it’s a sad place to be.” 😂👍🏻

[@rosyg6616]

Evil is the absence of God.

[@livewireOrourke]

Mike: "....dogs are evil..." Mike's cats: "This guy is pretty wise. Maybe we'll keep him around."

[@melfuz]

Lol! 😂 Love it!

[@godlessblessings7020]

Good Idea!!

[@christophernb1963]

No matter how you look at it evil is evil no matter how you put it. According to Leibniz, there are three forms of evil in the world: moral, physical, and metaphysical. You can relate evil to many words. All these other translations replaced the word evil with something else all relate to the same thing, evil. The answer to who created evil was the first Bible verse you read, the most high God Yahawah created evil.

[@christophernb1963]

I don't know what God you're talking about but the one that's in this King James Bible can be terrible. What about the Passover where he killed the firstborn even of the animals. Deuteronomy 10:16-17 [16]Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked. [17]For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

[@christophernb1963]

This guy's all over the place. I found it strange that a person would ask someone born blind sin. Makes me believe in regeneration, AKA reincarnation. It seems that the person asked did he send in his past life.

[@matthewdevine8275]

Thanks for all your work Mike. It's funny how easy to understand this verse is if someone just reads the whole verse and not just the, "I...create evil" portion. Like I used to.

[@matthewdevine8275]

@@InsanelyBaked It might seem ridiculous to you right now. But I have confidence you can grow like I did and come to realize the truth on this one. God bless.

[@joshuasmith1594]

I just finished listening to Dr Sproul on this very subject and about to misjudge you but as I kept listening I see that you did your homework. Thank you.

[@LovelySoulofARiverRose]

Wow.... I just discovered your channel ad I'm so happy that I did! Amazing study help for ne

[@MaryJohnH]

Thank you Mike. I've used your teachings to help in sharing the gospel.

[@summerwind1979]

I like your explanation. It reminds me of something I heard in a science class, that "cold" doesn't exist, except that it is measured as the absence of heat. When you stop to look at all the polar axes the world is made with, it seems to be always the case that the "bad" one is more simply a measure of the absence of the "good" one. Hate is the absence of love. Dark is the absence of light. Etc.

[@a-sheep-of-christ]

Going by that example we could try and claim "ra" (the hebrew word for >evil/calamity< in Isaiah 45:7) would be "absence of Goodness" and we could then pretend that "God did not create evil, because evil is the absence of God aka true goodness". But that logic is unbiblical since God, before casting his light (Greek: Phos/literal light: the logos: jesus, the image of God) into this universe already made "the heavens" as stated by Genesis 1:1. So the assessment that "God did not actively create evil" makes no sense when looking at 1) biblical exegesis/theology and 2) actual greek words. God did create evil to turn it to Good (Gensis 50:20; water to whine:John 2:1-11; true wedding feast: Revelation 19:6-9). Read Romans 9:20 and Ephesians 1:11 on predestination and 1 John 2:2 1 Timothy 4:10 and 1 Corinthians 15:22-28 on universal reconciliation (salvation of all).

[@jaromgregson8923]

@@a-sheep-of-christ this is interesting but doesn't seem to make sense. Why would God make Evil to create Good? Does that mean that Evil and Good existed outside of Him? Did God need to create Evil to create Himself? My understanding is juvenile and naive, but I'd like to truly understand.

[@servantofourlordjesuschris6456]

@@a-sheep-of-christ do you believe that evil is the absence of good? Reply with Yes and No and back up your answer on another line.

[@eugengolubic2186]

I'm a Catholic, so I don't agree with some of your videos (let the replies begin), but draw a lot of utility from such videos as this one. Nice work!

[@eugengolubic2186]

@3 Musketeers the same with me.

[@eugengolubic2186]

@J Mireles God won't judge everyone the same because some have more and some less knowledge. I believe if you find out that the Catholic Church is the true Christ's Church, you have to become a Catholic, but if you seek the truth and die as a Protestant/Orthodox with no fault of your own, you are still saved. Your words are refreshing commpared to the one's I've debated before who say that we are unsaved idolaters. I've became a Catholic after prayer, studying the Bible and the Church Fathers. Thank you for your comment because you take in account that we want to follow our Lord and not, as I've been accused, traditions of men. May God bless you and give peace to your family!

[@eugengolubic2186]

@J Mireles you said some points that I agree with. Many people don't realize this about Luther and I'm also a fan of Augustine because in some parts of his life I can see mine. I don't why you couldn't become a Catholic. Is it because of the Church's rules? Because I think that if you don't marry or return to your (first) wife you can become one. If it's for the personal reasons ma advice is if Catholic theology is true, become one. Jesus said to pick our cross and follow Him. That's the path of self-denial and sacrifice. I'm (or I was, not sure anymore) a sadistic (borderline) sociopath, but that didn't stop me to "fully" become a Christian and later, Catholic. I wish you everything the best and thank you for your kind words!

[@eugengolubic2186]

@@InsanelyBaked I don't understand the question because I haven't watched the Lord of the rings.

[@johnb1877]

Martin Luther was an ex Catholic friar a Judas.The last supper was the Institution of the Catholic Church priesthood Judas represent Catholic priests and those who fall away and walk away John 6;66 Not coincidence.

[@chrisedwards9942]

I'm glad you brought this to light. When I came across these verses in Bible study I didn't have the right guidance on hand to prevent myself from falling into the confusion you've pointed out. It would be good for other teachers to cover this as well

[@chrisedwards9942]

@@InsanelyBaked Good point

[@freda10623]

So glad I found your channel

[@JonahGhost]

I don’t understand why our brothers and sisters react to God bringing evil so sensitively. I’m grateful that Lord God is in control. So that we won’t be totally consumed by evil. “No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭10:13‬ ‭NIV‬‬ God doesn’t tempt. So he is in control of the devil. Praise God.

[@lisashao2449]

The Holy Spirit helps me to understand that God is good and therefore He is not evil but allow evil as a way to help His children to mature in their spiritual life. Evil exists to reveal the glory of God.

[@suegarton3700]

I am still working through this verse. However, I can believe that God allows evil so we have the freedom to choose. But I respectfully disagree with you that he allows evil to mature us. God uses the word of God to mature us. I don’t believe that he allows evil to harm us to mature us. That would be like a parent allowing a child to touch a hot stove to mature them. Or, saying the US military allowed the Vietnam enemy to harm our soldiers to make them better soldiers. It is Satan that kills, steals and destroys.

[@singanewsong4279]

I was literally just wondering about this! Thank you so much for your time and study so we can understand better!

[@emilysvenja2094]

Thank you Mike for taking the time to explain this and give answers to questions that might have kept someone stuck in doubt.

[@andrewjackson8244]

Thankyou for this Mike!! Extremely helpful While I was listening, my mind went straight to your reasoning of evil as, "It's not a thing but a lack of good." When reading the passage in Isaiah, I thought, "Well darkness is nothing more than the absence of light, and evil isn't the same to peace as darkness is to light, so the logical question is what happens when you remove peace that is equivalent to darkness and light? Distress and agony." Which is what you went on to say. Really really helpful. Again, thankyou so much for your ministry

[@iam604]

You should have went to Exodus instead and clearly seen just how evil your god is for hardening Pharaoh’s heart so it could torture the same people that allowed your god’s people to come join them when they were in need.

[@andrewjackson8244]

@@iam604 you should read Exodus for yourself because none of what you said is in there. Did God harden Pharaoh's heart? Yes, but Pharoah hardened his own heart according to Exodus. God didn't do what he did to torture the Egyptions, that is just you re-writing the narrative. And God did not punish the same people who welcomed the Israelites when they were in need. Sure it was the same nation, but the Egyptians brotally tormented the Israelites and enslaved them for four hundred years. How is that taking care of them when they were in need? The Egyptian Pharoah in the time of Joseph was a good Pharoah and he certainly did help the Israelites, but it wasn't long after that good Pharoah died that another Pharoah came into power and enslaved the Israelites. Instead of just regurgitating petty criticisms, how about actually reading it for yourself?

[@iam604]

@@andrewjackson8244 I see you can’t even understand your own words let alone what the Bible says. You just agreed that your god hardened his heart, then go and contradict that by saying that Pharoah hardened his own heart. Which has more power? Your god or Pharoah? Who has is omniscient and who is not? So it goes right back to your god for that caused of it all. YES, your god did do all that it did to torture the Egyptians because it could have, I don’t know, NOT HARDENED PHAROAH’S HEART to begin with and maybe the same outcome could have happened the 2 TIMES the PHAROAH’S were LIED to by your god’s so called chosen people. But then again…who is omniscient and already knows the outcome of all the decisions it makes? There is no revision of this FACT, only you and your fellow believers of it ignorant knowledge of this FACT. THE EXACT SAME can be, and is, applied to all stories in the book. Adam and Eve…Same. Cain and Abel…Same. The whole world and Noah…Same. All by your god’s will and plan. Where is it written that the Egyptian were brutal to the Hebrews? What…because they made them work harder? Moses actually murdered someone and yet your god chose him to lead people away from Egypt? Cain murdered his brother and yet was allowed to live, have a family, AND A CITY?! Again…all by your god. You should take your own advice at the end of your ignorant post because it is very clear to me that are incapable of understanding your god based off what is written. Good luck in your cult.

[@iam604]

@@andrewjackson8244 CHECKMATE!

[@andrewjackson8244]

@@iam604 In what way?

[@kevinbrislawn5918]

Mike..I just love you..you're such a good teacher who brings CLARITY!

[@pricelessperfection4606]

@@InsanelyBaked light & darkness cannot cohere, hey, ya wit-brained

[@pricelessperfection4606]

@@InsanelyBaked Sure! for God's word says this for our understanding.

[@pricelessperfection4606]

@@InsanelyBaked Jesus Christ gave this answer pointedly, as he declared that only God is inherently good. With man, we have variations, which are dependent upon the influences thereof, of light verses darkness.

[@Twiceborn_by_grace]

I prefer the KJV (not an onlyist) so it was nice to see you using it and your teaching still being fruitful for me. A lot of people that use the KJV end up just explaining the archaic words. Your teachings have really been a blessing to me.

[@michaelbrickley2443]

My uncle was a Pastor and he loved the KJV for the language, the NIV for simplicity snd the Ryrie NASB for accuracy. Use the one you love the most but my advice, keep different copies around, and best, use good study Bibles. Charles Ryrie was one of the best but there is no one who knows it all. If I remember, Pastor Mike was a Calvary Chapel taught preacher and they are one of the best. Expository teaching, verse by verse. God bless your journey with a fire that may falter but a desire to seek the renewal of the Spirit necessary to fan the flames, amen

[@melfuz]

💕 same

[@GerardPerry]

There are a lot of great teachings, re: the KJV, from my church, if you're interested.

[@ChamberedMaiden]

Breaking out Bible, pen, and paper on this one....Thank you and YAH bless...

[@Meisha-Xenat]

thank you, i appreciate your in depth explanation, i appreciate the verses that support the varying meanings. you are anointed for sure. bless you.

[@JoEl-ws1rq]

Solid teaching brother. I rarely put my trust in preachers I find online, but I truly believe from what I've seen thus far, that you are an inspired teacher of God. You have such sound doctrine. Keep spreading the good news.

[@mavericktheace]

In my degree I did a course on Isaiah and my professor was fluent in reading Biblical Hebrew, read/translated the passage as "I create light and I create dark(ness)" and he specified that in the Hebrew, those words were cognate with "good" and "evil." This always stood out to me and I marked it in my Bible's margins, which I have open to that passage right now. I think a tendency is for us to place God into a dualist paradigm where good and evil are two qualities a priori to God, rather than underneath him. God created two trees in Eden, one which we should not but could eat from if we chose. God creates evil, but not so it should befall or oppress us, but rather so we can choose him freely. No choice, no love/good.

[@lucycat4305]

OT god inflicted oppression, destruction, death and despair on people all throughout the entire OT. This is why Jesus manifest on earth. To fulfil his laws and release us from his bondage. To show us how to exit the lower consciousness of the ego and ascend to our Father in Heaven. Jesus defied the laws of the OT demiurge. 38Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Jesus taught the opposite of the evil god in the OT. How do you square this?

[@AD-en5dq]

I look at Evil in this way; the same way cold is the absence of heat and darkness is the absence of light; Evil is the absence of good.

[@toddfordr8218]

That makes me feel a lot better. Of course by that logic evil is not real. Only good. I could never be responsible for an evil deed either since only good is done with intent. Evil would simply be an unintended result of that which God did not create.

[@AD-en5dq]

@@toddfordr8218 your conclusion doesn't follow; what follows evil is the absence of Good is since God is axiomatically good to go against or act without the good is to separate yourself from God. effectively the words evil is not real did not come from me you presumed that incorrectly; we both know cold is felt just like darkness is seen so the more accurate conclusion is to say that the Evil is done with intent against the good meaning you must deliberately act against good. you see we all know what good is we have a conscience "the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another" that is to say we should intuitively know not to kill one another so to act against our conscience is to be evil the absence or ignoring of Good

[@toddfordr8218]

@@AD-en5dq the argument is whether evil is an absence of good, and not an opposite of good. If goodness is an action, then evil is an action. If evil is just the absence of good then it can not be an action. We are very much taught right from wrong. Indian boys were not considered Braves until they had killed an enemy. Their conscience wasn't taught that killing was bad. That's just cultures determining right from wrong. Darkness is an absence of light. I cant block the light with darkness. I cant turn on the dark. I can only turn off the light. I'm saying evil can be turned on just like good can. Therefore it cant be merely an absence of good. Sorry about the sarcasm in my previous statement, I hope this statement is more coherent.

[@AD-en5dq]

@@toddfordr8218 here is the thing this isn't my argument. yes society teaches you things but in your heart your conscience that isn't taught its deeper than that; thats why I think saying your conscience wasn't taught is a contradictions of terms. what I am saying is we as humans prefer doing things that are wrong yes they are actions but in my view the actions that are evil are for lack of a better term nature and the understanding of good in our hearts is the spirits nurture my personal opinion on this subject is as such once we decided to seize autonomy from God knowing Good and Evil we started to define these concepts which I believe are part of reality not imposed by society tho society colors it... Romans 2:14-15 "For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them," that is to say regardless of these societal beliefs our hearts have that understanding already but we I guess for lack of better terms intellectually choose evil... So to be evil is to act as there is no good when in truth there is Only good because there is Only God so I suppose to better define my previous statement God is Good and God is everything so to do Evil or to have evil happen you must reject good although good is all there is

[@toddfordr8218]

@@AD-en5dq if these things were so clearly written on the hearts of man, we would have no need for books from which to quote. Kids repeat bad words not knowing they are bad and they are scolded for it. A child who is not scolded for it will not know it's bad. We use emotion to teach our children. We reward good behavior and punish the bad. Yes we have a conscience, but it's sculpted by the reactions of our families and society to our behaviors from conception. We are given rules and laws by culture and religions and taught that following the laws are good. When we send out men to war they come home heroes whether they killed or not. Its not the act that makes the sin but how that act is interpreted. To kill in defense of ones family or nation or ideology is not considered murder. However if a soldier was taught that killing was a sin his conscience will be effected if he does it.

[@ClauGutierrezY]

I've been reading the Bible my whole life, I'm not a theologian, but something that kind of bothers me big time is, if we have scholars working on translations 24/7... 365 a year, and the scrolls were written this way so long ago, why it seems to be that we never get a definitive translation once for all? Whenever we think we understand some of this in our path for enlightenment, something comes across and it turns out that one word means a complete different thing and curves the meaning of a whole passage completely! Do we need to be experts in Aramaic, Old Greek etc to have the real thing? Sorry for my rant-like comment, but following Jesus is hard enough to also add up the fact that what you're reading my mean something completely different, no matter how straight forward it may sound

[@drIbeleme]

I compliment you for the way you handled this. I was blessed by it and I trust that others were blessed as well. Thanks again

[@kristy3380]

Just want to say that I love the way you describe evil as the "absence of", because I have always read this verse and others like it in the sense of God "formed" the light, which in turn created darkness. God makes peace, which in turn created it's opposite. Because to have or to know light, you must have once known darkness, and because God is a just God there has to be balance. And as a Christian one of the best things about God is that He works ALL things even the evil things for the good of those who Love Him.

[@alisa562]

I love the topics you choose to discuss!

[@underwaves75]

He is confounded. I’m sorry to have to tell you. But here is a point in the right direction. Isaiah 45:7 “I forme the light, and create darkenesse: I make peace, and create euill: I the Lord do all these things.”

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

​@@underwaves75not sure what eull is

[@TheWayandWordofLife]

Outstanding, as ALWAYS!! 🌿🕊

[@GraceOnly3]

Thanks, Mike - very helpful lesson ⭐️

[@FAITHFULsk8r]

Right when I feel like I've seen all of Brother Mike's videos, yet another pops up! 🙌🏼🤠

[@boonwarner]

Wow this one went deep and hurt my brain a little. Good work tackling this difficult topic!

[@valerierago3615]

I grew up in the Hindu religious belief and as a child was honestly scared to death of the consequences of disobeying those evil Gods..some of them had affairs with humankind and their wives in their so called heavens took revenge on us .. then theirs kali Ma she is hideous looking, they basically mixed with animals and human .. gosh finding Jesus was such a change for me .. I basically wanted to die because I couldn’t comprehend how selfish those Gods were.. first they create us against our will and then try to make us obey they doltish rules .. most of the rules was against my will .. there are some messed up religions out there

[@ninakaymegmail]

😱I would love to understand this because I like Hinduism٫ but I like also others I learn ALL spiritual backgrounds I'm trying to٫ at least. So are you sure they bred with animals? What consequences ??? I thought that was just symbols and in resemblance ???

[@KD_ANKH_ATUM]

You create and contracted your own life. No one did it for you. So those gods are evil to you?

[@marcellofunhouse1234]

​@@ashleyriosrizoyou do realize it's impossible to consent to being born right?

[@bazalkryn]

Yes, if you look at enough resources, you can eventually find one that supports the position you want.

[@howardmanley3388]

It’s funny how people want to change the meaning of a verse, because they don’t want to believe that their God would never create Evil ? Why not just read and believe what the verse says , it’s very clear what the verse says...✅

[@gregwarrener4848]

i agree, teams od scholars over a couple thousands of years decided that it should say evil, but some hipster with a concordance knows just enough to re confuse it. i find usually it is the passages about God's sovereignty that make people want to defend God because they can't accept God being lord of all. then they use free will as their best argument to support their claim. he even says it in this video himself that even if god didnt create evil he allows it. if he allows evil THATS OK! he is God and he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants and we still need to trust him that it was not only for the greater good, but also that their is no better way to do it. if it is to harde to believe that God is in control of everything then i feel this pastor should keep it to himself and stop trying to justify his week faith to every body else

[@howardmanley3388]

Greg Warrener 💯 I agree completely...✅

[@Rosie-uf5ox]

Except that the meaning of the verse isn’t what you think it is, because the English meaning of the word “evil” has changed since the time the KJV was written. Mike pretty clearly went through lots of evidence, including the original Hebrew word, the context, and ALL the common translations written in modern English, to make the point. He’s not trying to change the meaning of the verse, but to clarify the actual meaning of the verse.

[@nowannabeonthis8522]

God created the Devil. So did He NOT create evil?

[@nowannabeonthis8522]

@teph i would fall for that, except, God know everything. He is omniscient. So if He knows all, He knew his creation would rebel. And He allowed it to happen. So that implies that He knowling created evil. So the real question is why does He create things that turn evil knowing that it is what it will do. Is it possible that because only He is perfection, so He cannot create perfection? Because to do so would be to create another version of Himself?

[@jennifersmith2382]

Wow! The thinking about where evil came from?? Mike you are causing me to really think! God bless you and this ministry!

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Because angels were sometimes created ignorant or prone to dissatisfaction, maybe, @Jennifer Smith ?

[@Notevenone]

Thank you for this teaching and for the suggestion of IP’s teaching as well. Both at humbling. ❤

[@michael2974]

The statement speaks for itself. My question is why would someone prefer a God that is unwilling to accept responsibility for all of his creation?

[@EmberNone]

@@michael2974 Are parents responsible for everything their children do? Should the parents be punished if they raised their children but they chose a different way?

[@michael2974]

@@EmberNone So, what's your point? What does that have to do with with God saying, 'I make peace and create evil'.

[@lilmisspeace]

Evil is not the opposite of good; God has no opposing equal. Evil is the absence of good; satan is a creation with the absence of God. Satan will never be equal to God, only lacking in Him. Powerful revelation! I was thinking about how scientifically, cold is the absence of heat and dark is the absence of light. Then this poured out and I realized that the answer to any problem is always Jesus; a problem is the absence of the presence of God. There is no other answer that is so absolute. 11.30pm 6th May 2019

[@j.a.greene3523]

This would indicate that God is not all-present.

[@toddfordr8218]

Do you care to venture what created Satan? How about addressing that your saying evil doesn't exist. If evil is the absence of good, then I could do no evil. It would just be doing less good. If Satan was created, but not by God, then you have suggested there are more creators. I'm not trying to question your faith, but your comment is filled with contradictions.

[@toddfordr8218]

@@rightdoctrine3922 there are 7 archangels listed in the bible. Satan was not one of them. In fact the bible is unclear to the origins of Satan. Most passages people use to describe Satan were actually referencing specific rulers such as the Babylonians. The idea that God made only perfect beings and despite their perfection they become evil without given the ability to do so by God isn't good enough. If he created Satan and Satan is Evil, then it doesn't matter how he became evil. If God is perfect then evil is part of that perfection. The laws of Nature have animals killing babies and the old or injured. Males kill their own for the right to mate, or force the females to breed. We dont see evil in that, just survival of the fittest. Good and evil are social constructs for men to live by in societies. A right and wrong way to behave with one another.

[@been1734]

@@j.a.greene3523 God is always present however, if we do not accept Jesus as our Lord and savior, then He is absent in us.

[@j.a.greene3523]

@@been1734 ...then He is not all present. Either God is all present with no exception, or God is NOT all-present. God cannot be all-present, but absent anywhere. Unfortunately to say... that's not how logic works. Christians can't say that logic is on their side when they're the ones that state logical contradictions as fact to help support their beliefs. If their beliefs were true, they wouldn't need to state logical contradictions in order to support their beliefs, but just logical facts. If God is all-present, then this BS of "God's love is absent in Hell" is true: God is absent in Hell (God's Love is His Essence, so how could God be somewhere without His Love? That's like you saying that you can be somewhere without your soul being there). If God is not present in Hell, then God is not all-present. The only way you can still claim for God to be all-present is to denounce the existence of Hell (How can God be somewhere the doesn't exist in the first place?). So, in another words, you have to give up the belief of Hell in order to also believe in the all-presence of God. The only other option at this point is to believe that there is a Hell, but God's Love and presence is still there, which means that Hell exists out of God's love... ...and for those who believe that are the most evil people I know. They're basically stating that God Loves the fact that people are in Hell... and I cannot worship a God who Loves the fact that people are in Hell. So, choose your deity: God - Not all present, All-loving / Hell exists God - All present, All-loving / Hell does not exist God - All present, not all-loving / Hell exists. ...This, in the philosophy world, is what we call... logic.

[@tarawells7590]

"God is real... Isreal." I see what you did there! lol Thank you for your invaluable vids! Getting God's Word correctly wholly glorifies God!! We need to 1st learn His Word correctly, then 2nd, go out and teach/preach His Gospel.

[@godlessblessings7020]

I got in trouble with that one at work. my boss asked me how to spell "Israel" ...so I told him "I s r e a l". I found out my blooper when everybody on the *Israel* cruse *put on the freshly printed "ISREAL" T-shirts!!* BOY, was my face red!

[@Angee82111]

Wow thank you so much for explaining that the donut analogy is great! I appreciate you saying you don’t know when you don’t know that’s helpful. I will definitely check out the rest of your videos

[@earthgem777]

So if God is good, why have I not experienced His goodness in my life when it comes to relationships? I feel so angry at God and I do not know how to stop. I have come to the point of brushing it all under the carpet, forgive God and move on. Then I would face another round of evil where I get mistreated, abused, molested, and these experiences come from strangers to church leaders themselves, friendships or relationships. I feel so tired of coming back to this place where I have to forgive God whom everyone tells me that He is good but in my experience, I am not seeing it. I see injustice and evil and I feel so tired. I feel sad about my relationship with God. I do not know how to move forward once again and be disappointed again in the future. I wish, really wish I lived another life where I can see evidently that God is good and never again do I face these injustice and bad experiences. Where is this good God that you speak of in my life? Please don't preach to me about fasting, praying, healing ministries...been there done that, 20 years. I am tired. Good God, where are you?

[@projectbirdfeederman5491]

I hear you. It's always a bad intervention if there's any spiritual intervention. Like another Job'ing or send in some more demons. Where the hell are all the angels? There's no balance here at all. They say "God was beside you all through that", but he didn't even say hello, it makes it worse to think he was there witnessing it all and no intervention or even some consolation.

[@earthgem777]

@projectbirdfeederman5491 Thank you for hearing me...the ones who chose to still praise God and see Him as good seem to have it easier or something...I don't know. I have done that but seems like it won't be long until the next test and the next test and the next test. And I'm gonna need healing again and again. Will this ever stop? I'm just a human doing what I can and my best. I get tired, worn out, I'd lose battles against the enemy and somehow I would be at fault for failing and not doing better and choosing His ways. I don't know how to navigate this. Can you tell me about your thoughts on free will becos I too do not believe there is free will.

[@Yipper64]

20:35 you know I never thought about it that way but it makes a lot of sense. Evil is an absense, it isnt really a *thing* as much as it is a lack of a thing.

[@collynsmith786]

Though we disagree on docterns of grace we can agree on many other things my friend. Good work brother.

[@user39h2j8il]

@MikeWinger, have you done any videos on Revelations and end time prophecy? I would love to know your thoughts.

[@ghost_prt]

Never thought very deeply about it until now and your insight was very helpfull, thx brother. Praise God!

[@vanessadesire7]

You’re my favorite. Thank God for you.🙏🏼

[@zekdom]

4:27, 6:07 - another way of looking at it 7:21 - “moral evil” or “hardship” 7:41 - usage 8:04, 9:18, 11:34 - context 8:52, 11:53 - what’s the contrast? 10:48 , 11:12, 11:34 - sovereignty 12:33 - Isaiah 41:23 13:51, 14:12, 14:35 - Lamentations 3:38-39 15:23, 15:40, 15:55 - Job 2:10 15:52 - “bad times”, Winger uses an analogy 17:00, 17:21 - meaning of evil 17:34, 18:34 - why new translations are different

[@nathanburgett1599]

46:20 I might be wrong, but I think if you look at the context of that proverb about the lot Cast, it's in the context of what we're not supposed to do. I need to look at it again but I do remember having the same question in looking into it and remember what I found was basically that it's not a direct teaching on how to find the will of God but rather kind of how the pagans would do it and how we're not supposed to go about it. While still understanding that at certain times the leaders of Israel use lots and God did use that and honor it, it wasn't like what we're supposed to do. Like when God was tested with the fleece 3 times. is that teaching that we can all take a fleece out any time you want God to confirm something for us? So while I could be wrong I remember when I looked into it that the general context was something along the lines of that idea, that it's not affirming this is what we do.❤

[@deonaeddy6169]

How come in the original KJ Bible, it states how art fallen from Heaven oh Lucifer, and in the NIV it has replaced the word Lucifer with the Morning Star which is what the KJ calls Jesus? The KJ is pretty simple to read when rightly divided

[@7wiiskate]

Lucifer is the latín translation of morning star , it was left untouched from the latín vulgate and that is Why we still see it on kj. A translators mistake i say.

[@deonaeddy6169]

7wiiskate Rev 22: 18,19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophesy of this book, If any man shall add into these things,God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Why did Jesus come to earth? KJ says in Luke 9:56 " For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village." NIV says in Luke 9:56- "and they went to a village." KJ in Math 18:11 it says," For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost." The NIV- verse 11 is missing. Is repentance important? The KJ in Math 9:13 says," I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." The NIV says," I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." ("to repentance" is missing.) For whom did Jesus die? The KJ says in 1Cor 5:7 "Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us" The NIV says in 1Cor5:7 Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. ( "For us" has been removed) In whom must you believe to be saved? The KJ in John 6:47 says," Verily Verily I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life." The NIV same chapter, same verse says," I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life." ("on me" which is Jesus, has been removed.) Was Joseph really the Father of Jesus? The KJ says in Luke 2:33" And Joseph and his mother marvell ed at those things which were spoken of him." The same chapter and verse in the NIV says," The child's father and mother marveled at what was said about him." Did Jesus give his disciples power to heal? KJ Mark 3:5 says," power to heal sickness and to cast out devil's." NIV same ch same verse says," authority to drive out demons." Will God forgive us if we do not forgive others ? In the KJ Mark 11:26 says," But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses." The NIV same ch same verse says nothing. The complete text is missing here. Who is in charge? The KJ 1Cor 10:28 says," for the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof." The NIV- The last part is missing. How must we deal with our enemies? The KJ says in Math 5:44," Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you and persecute you." The NIV same ch same verse says,"Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." ( the middle part was removed) Where did Jesus go? The KJ says in John 16:16 ," A little while and ye shall not see me: and again a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father." The NIV same verse same text says," In a little while you will see me no more, and then after a little while you will see me.' ( it does not state that Jesus went to his Father.) Is Jesus the Son of God? In the KJ in acts 8:37 it says," And Philip said, If thou believes with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. The NIV deleted the entire verse denying that Jesus is the Son of God How do we have redemption? The KJ says in Col 1:14 " In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins" The NIV same ch same verse says," In whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." ( They removed," through his blood.) In whpm are we a new creature? The KJ in Gal 6:15 says," For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature." The NIV same verse same chapter says," Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation." ( they removed the first part of the verse) On who's name shall we believe? In KJ 1John 5:13 it says," and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." The NIV same ch same verse was deleted. This is all a deliberate attempt to deny the Son of God. What I showed you is only a few things among many found. I can keep going if you like but I urge you to look into this for yourself. (You to Mike) The original KJ is God inspired, without one flaw or contradiction. Rightly dividing the word and comparisons have proven that. All other new translations are of the New World. Even the New KJ translation. The original KJ is not hard to read. That term is power of suggestion which people bought into. Please I urge you to read ONLY the KJ.and please pass this on. May true peace be with you all

[@7wiiskate]

@@deonaeddy6169 wow ok, how can others around the world have the perfect word of God if it is only in english? God can transmit His message to all Even in our imperfections , i plead that u may think more about this.

[@deonaeddy6169]

7wiiskate There's nothing to think about. It seems that by your very quick reply, that you haven't really read and given much thought to what I've stated. I ask that you really read it and pay attention to the warning about adding to and taking from the word. The KJ Bible goes way back and has stood the test of time. Believers had no problem understanding it. It's not hard to understand. In it you will find zero contradictions. Zero mistakes. These NEW translations are full of them and have been the cause of great confusion. There is nothing knew under the sun with which we need to change Gods word, taking, adding and all out deleting from it that gives it a different meaning or waters it down. I urge you to research more on this on your own

[@7wiiskate]

@@deonaeddy6169 Is there now something wrong with a quick reply? The problem is a translation issue and has nothing to do with warnings about adding or taking from scriptures, less than a dozen manuscripts were used for the kjv and that of9th to 11th century, today we have an enormous confirmation from God about his Word that we can go back to the 2nd century that confirms much of what we have today, i have a kjb its a beauty i love it, but will never say this is exactly what God said because God did not give it originally in english it had to be translated. Out of all languages in the world i cannot understand how anyone may think that a translation from an original can have the whole essence of the message be it known that ancient hebrew is such a complex language to begin with according to scholars of the field. Many saints served , worshipped and spread the gospel with the kjv and that is fine with me i became a believer thru kjv translation. btw my initial comment was regarding the lucifer word, are u objecting on its meaning? A brother in Christ.

[@SOULSafeProductionZ]

I hope you read your comments...You have a GREAT WAY to explain things!

[@dmh1505]

Tolkien used at the end of LOTR when Gandalph told his friends, " I will not say do not weep, for all tears are not an evil"

[@polemeros]

After years of reading and thinking about this question, I remain stuck on one point: How can a being who is omnipotent (God) disclaim any responsibility for the results of his actions, saying, in effect, My power is the greatest there is, but I am innocent of what my power has created. I am omnipotent and I am completely innocent. Just can't get past this.

[@destinationjesuschrist7043]

He never disclaims responsibility for what he does. I think what your trying to ask is how can God justify creating people with the potential to do evil when he could’ve created a subservient universe that only does good always without choice.

[@destinationjesuschrist7043]

God is Omnipotent and completely pure. Yes. Let me answer simply so you will understand. If a Father and Mother have a child. If that child grows through a normal, mildly traumatic life like most humans. If that child chooses to kill someone or any other evil things on some random day because they have free will. Are the parents too blame? And should the parents serve time in prison for act done by there child? God is completely righteous, he punished humans by allowing humans to commit evil atrocities to each other. Because our hearts are selfish and we don’t love each other as our selves. He had a plan to redeem those that see the evil in the human heart and would rather choose God over self willed emotions through Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ fulfilled the law that no man could because of there selfish lusts. He was scarified by envying humans on a tree/cross. If we choose to believe the Gospel and Jesus Christ. God said Jesus Christ covers us in his perfect sacrifice. God no longer sees our sinful nature but he sees Jesus Christ in us. When we believe we are sealed by the Holy Spirit and promised resurrection on the Day of Judgment. Why is there a day of Judgment? For the most wicked people and creatures. If Hitler after killing however million people shot himself. Is that fair judgment? He gets to skip out on being punished for his atrocities? That’s is why God has reserved judgment. God will judge every evil act with true and proper judgment.

[@PinkJoy143]

@@destinationjesuschrist7043 BEAUTIFUL!

[@servantofourlordjesuschris6456]

@@destinationjesuschrist7043 but did Jesus die to take away the sinful nature?

[@destinationjesuschrist7043]

@@servantofourlordjesuschris6456 Jesus Died for our bounty (Debt), by our actions we had sold our life to sin and darkness. He paid to remove us from hell by belief in him. His spirit guides us to observe sinful nature in ourselves and others so we can judge purely on what a holy life is, so we can grow to do what is righteous because he has taken the blinders off us to see the true extent of evil around us. That is why God why we are told to grow as christians and to seek fruits of the spirit. Which is gratitude to God for keeping us away from the day of judgment.

[@D1sc1p1e]

I'm just leaving this here so there's no longer 666 comments lol

[@ElficGuy]

Lol, let's give this guy 666 likes 🤣🤣🤣

[@buckaroobonsaitree7488]

Why

[@AnnaKraft97]

Doing the Lord’s work 😂💕

[@D1sc1p1e]

@@buckaroobonsaitree7488 I take it you've never heard of Iron Maiden either? Wow either you're really that young or I'm really that old 😂

[@godlessblessings7020]

He was in Isaiah NOT Revelations!!

[@tomkendrick7844]

Let me guess: the verse doesn't mean what it clearly states?

[@samopoku8]

Tom Kendrick did you watch the video?

[@tomkendrick7844]

@@samopoku8 If he has a good point, he shouldn't need 45 minutes to make it. What I don't understand is why can't we just take a natural reading of the scriptures? If it says god created evil, why can't we just conclude god created evil? What's the problem? Why do we have to go to the original greek for some verses and spend 45 minutes trying to show how it actually says something different for some verse, but when it's a verse that we like, we NEVER feel the urge to look at the ancient greek. I don't understand this.

[@atypicalhiker]

You are onto something here. Dont dig or question too deeply you won't like what you find.

[@johngraves9237]

@@tomkendrick7844 There is no evil in his nature, you need to understand the nature of God. The closer you get to Jesus you will understand the Word of God much better.

[@brandondrinkwater8723]

@@johngraves9237 you need to read the Old Testament to see Gods evil. Slavery, human sacrifice, mass slaughters and women as booty just to name a few.

[@rankinepiper]

"If ever you find that you and God are at odds.....You are wrong!" Love it!!!!

[@shayla4094]

I love the wisdom that God has given you 🙏 I really enjoy this bible studies

[@valerierago3615]

Thank you so very much .. I wasn’t confused about the Good and Evil I some how understood it but couldn’t really explain it to others ... God Is pure love but when we take our eyes of him and live in the flesh we basically punish our self. Job actually ritually followed the rules but God wants a relationships not a robotic obedience. Gosh I’m learning so much and falling deeper and deeper in love with the one and only God. My lack of knowledge had me confused for a while. THANK YOU.

[@ryanmozert]

Jesus is the one and only God. HE appeared as Melchizedech, to the old testament saints, as well

[@antoniopadro1760]

@@ryanmozert this Jesus is not God and God is not a high priest how ridiculous to think or believe that your own testament says Jesus has a God in john 20:17 So make up your mind is Jesus God or does he have a God.

[@peterhansen1152]

Manu verses have been changed by satan to mislead the world and cause people to not hear the voice of the lord. This particular verse used to say woe/calamity

[@simonedeandrade4458]

I just am confused about the answer that “if Jesus didn’t create any humans their wouldn’t be evil”but the devil was bad before anyone showed up on earth wasn’t he?

[@simonedeandrade4458]

@John The Disciple thank you for the reply! Very helpful

[@simonedeandrade4458]

@John The Disciple thank you for all that so I’m actually a girl not a bro😂 merry Christmas and God bless you too!

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@John The Disciple Prove it? & with no DEATH in the world, how does reproduction work? Does it continue with no upper limit? And why trust Satan with more knowledge of good and evil than Adam? Or at least, that more than two lives, were at stake?

[@youngpappy2290]

@John The Disciple everything was good but you say Lucifer was a idiot... that doesnt make sens

[@Creshex8]

@@youngpappy2290 I agree. Everything was very good, and then was shown to be very bad. It’s just double speak. His answer can prove the other side just as easily.

[@louisademmerle2628]

NLT "Good times and Bad times. Because that is just the way the NLT rolls! That was so funny!!! NLT is my favorite translation and now I love it even more. That aside I have really enjoyed and am blessed by your videos. I am now recommending you to my friends. I like how you break down topics and look at them from a biblical point of view.

[@ErikaGarcia-sk4gr]

Hi, You said that God planned out Cyrus' life. Would this be predestination? Does this passage line up with free will? I keep hearing both- we're not robots and have free will, as per God's purpose for us and then there is predestination that God's will will be done and our lives are already planned and we think we're making the choices? I just watched a video from Allen Parr about why did God create Satan and he said the free will that I mentioned before. My father says believes in predestination so I'm confused. Thank you.

[@michaelmartin2259]

Yes on doughnut hole is a sad place to be. Absence of doughnut is bad.

[@wishyouthebest9222]

One of the most deep wisdom found on youtube... you brought me to tears 😥

[@melfuz]

@@wishyouthebest9222 😂

[@hieishiro6354]

There is nothing wrong with believing God created evil in all forms. You ask people if they believe God is omnipotent and then say he cant do something. When we make a donut we make it within the rules that bind the universe. When God made the concept so that a donut could exist the way we understand it, he created the concept of nothing so the donut hole could exist. Because in the beginning, there was God. There wasnt nothing.

[@iam604]

There was never a time where there was nothing if you believe there is a god. Theist can believe their god existed with nothing else but there is and has always been a something.

[@cocchinicorp4048]

Anytime someone starts their interpretation with "well... let's use our brains to unpack this based on the context of ancient times and foreign languages"... I tend to tune out. The Bible either is preserved supernaturally or it isn't. These things are spiritually discerned, not intellectually derived. If the Bible says clearly "God created evil", I'll just take that on its face and trust that God knows what He's doing.

[@FWEllis-im2ez]

Hey, yeah I'm thinking the same way...If you have to bring up a different meaning of the word I tune out...."God Create evil" is the same as "God create Satan" that's it. if it's done with one it can be literally done with all.

[@nori_tutor]

I agree with you in part, we have to take on its face. But it's exactly how he showed in the video, the original word in Hebrew has several meanings, among calamity, disaster, and evil (not necessarily moral evil) If you just take it to its face without investigating you can just assume "Well, if God created what evil, so moral evil is his creation too, right?" Of course not.

[@laugustam]

Mike, your explanations have put my heart at ease but I'm struggling with the issue of why God created a being that was capable of becoming evil.

[@bgail20]

Thanks for the clarification. I understand better now. Thanks for your teachings.

[@deluxeassortment]

Did God create the universe and everything in it? Yes. Is God omniscient? Yes. Did God know before he created the universe that when he created man and the angels that some of them would become evil? Yes. Is God omnipotent? Yes. Does God know how to create a universe without evil? Yes. Does God know how to stop evil? Yes. Therefore, either God created evil, allows evil to exist, and wants evil as part of his plan, or God is not omniscient or omnipotent or does not exist. Just because we cannot imagine a universe where God creates a being that chooses to worship him with free will without evil doesn't mean an Omnipotent and Omniscient God would not be capable of doing so. So either he is unwilling or unable or nonexistent.

[@deluxeassortment]

@Sergeant 235 If evil has no positive nature, then why are people always claiming Satan is evil? However you want to define evil, children still die horrible deaths by rape and torture in sex trafficking. God allows that to exist.

[@hobosekschuel8290]

Alkyl Dimethyl Benzyl Ammonium Chloride God also allows your hand to burn when you touch a hot stove. He even allows you to get a papercut! How horrible

[@deluxeassortment]

@@hobosekschuel8290 Appreciate the sarcasm

[@hobosekschuel8290]

Alkyl Dimethyl Benzyl Ammonium Chloride hopefully you understand the point

[@deluxeassortment]

@@hobosekschuel8290 I do, but don't agree with the comparison. I don't have a problem reconciling the problems around me with my non-theological worldview. It just doesn't logically make sense with a theological worldview.

[@evangelistkimpatrik]

Evil does not need to be created, but it is rather permitted. Good explanation!

[@papiD69]

The verse doesn't say "permitted", it says "created".

[@evangelistkimpatrik]

@@papiD69 Exactly that word ”created” was explained in the video. God did not create evil, but he created the possibility for evil. Through free will.

[@dianazeus7521]

Destruction is rha and my understanding is that God say i am the beginning and the end. I create/ i destroy.... he rules both creation and destruction. He is Lord (master/ruler) of duality (both light and darkness.... them both parts of the contrasts...ying yang principle). This passage is a testimony of his allmightiness.

[@dianazeus7521]

@@InsanelyBaked , no.... all creation is made by God. Energy transforms continuously. In order to teansform, and things to not stay still, the process of evolution is triggered by destruction. We perceive evil. Without darkness, light can not be revealed. Contrast forces.... duality is pure math. And they cant exist one without another. Evil is perception. And it is mainly an action against the order and math of God

[@dianazeus7521]

@@InsanelyBaked in the 45 chapter of Isaiah, i have a romanian bible it say this, in what can be considered translation: i create the light and give a face to the darkness, the One who alows peace to exist, and gives way to the turmoil: I am the Lord who do all this.

[@dianazeus7521]

@@InsanelyBaked I will give u one simple example: do not cut off the trees of Earth, koz God made trees to give oxigrn, forests to absord rain and ur house to not be flooded. Trees also absorb CO2. What happends if u destroy forests.... as a consequince.... u will have instable environment. Same, extend this to any aspect of spiritual and phisical life. Dont lie.... it will propagate consequinces as ppl will take decissions upon ur lies and u will create suffering. Dont kill, dont wirship the darkness, dont do bad things etc.... dont mess with things.... koz those will turn against u....

[@dianazeus7521]

@@InsanelyBaked In my opinion u can have both. Intention separates what u serve thru ur gates. We are created God alike. Means we are created in same nature. We can manifest both darkness and light in same amount by will. Free will. The difference is that we can not control the consequince of our choices. Within me lyes the power to both protect/love/create and destroy/harm/hurt... it's a matter of choice. I can choose what to matherialise. Who has wisdom, can use the duality with good intention to do good.

[@dianazeus7521]

@@InsanelyBaked U can study all u want. I told u... evil is all thought/intention/ deed oposing to God law. Anything that goes against the will of God. Do not confuse darkness forces with evil. Duality is nor good, nor bad.

[@Notevenone]

If ever you find that God and you are at odds... you’re wrong. This is amazing.

[@glennpaultancongco5475]

Could we replace “create” to “allow” evil. So it would read allow calamities/ distress/ troubles

[@MaliKorsten]

I was thinking, "Doesn't everyone know what calamity means?", then I realised I must be in the "old" category.

[@matthewdevine8275]

I was wondering the same thing. Must be because my Dad has used KJV all my life.

[@biotorex8999]

Clamity is the act of evil. Which again proves that Yahweh the Iron Age war god is a monster.

[@Ghghghghgh-]

@@biotorex8999and you’re a sinner, like the rest of us. Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

[@dlilwon]

How could we know something is good if evil/bad does not exist?

[@lancelance2006]

If evil/bad does not exist, then there would be no need to worry about evil/bad since only good exists.

[@andrebrown8969]

This is another one of those presentations that makes me see happy I do not have to jump through so many hopes to hold on to a belief for which there is absolutely no proof. I would probably dislocate my mind.

[@angelmoore2588]

Yeah I bet he has one hell of a migraine after this.

[@joannepitre723]

First time here. Great teaching.....subscribed.

[@chrustopherbennett]

You have become part of my routine. I go to bed every night listening to a video. I need you to make more hour long videos. I'm catching up to all your current stuff lol

[@theVampkingkindredk]

Yup the most high God YAHAWAH made everything