Did God Write the Constitution?

[@PhoenixFlight94]

Very much appreciated to see a Christian calling out nonsense. Thank you for showing not all Christians are drinking the Christian Nationalist kool aid.

[@ashwayn]

But christians practice ritual cannibalism

[@MattTyrant]

Yeah they are! They think they can be a worldly nationalist and a Christian. Like they think they can worship God and money and not do one more thing for Jesus with money and follow Jesus.

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

I have occasionally asked over the past few years, "Where are the Christians opposing 'Christian Nationalism'?" Thank you for being an answer to that question.

[@robbower5489]

You must’ve been ahead of your time because if you’ve been asking a question of which no one ever heard (and still most never have) that’s quite remarkable

[@UnconventionalReasoning]

@@robbower5489 I've been hearing and asking a version of this since the mid 1990s. I briefly attended a church which emphasized openness, their community support work was explicitly welcoming of the gay community. At the same time, right-wing Christian groups, led by the Moral Majority and then the Family Research Council, were trying to eliminate them from society. In the past decade, as a portion of the Christian world is at war with the LGBTQ+ community, I remember that church at that time. I know, on a local scale, similar churches continue with that welcoming approach, but on a national scale, they seem to be drowned out.

[@IamGrimalkin]

But the term "christian nationalism" is ill-defined and can mean a range of things. -It can mean an attempt of concocting a divine backing to your home nation, as spoken against here. -It can mean you are a christian and a nationalist, but while you give christian arguments for nationalism, you don't go as far as option 1. -It can just be a synonym for theonomy, which doesn't even neccesarily have to be nationalist. It's much better to provide rebuttals for specific ideas (which this video does quite well) than to attack a ill-defined blob of different and sometimes contradictory ideas.

[@IamGrimalkin]

@dungbungler When I say contradictory, I'm not saying "christian nationalists" are self contradictory, I'm saying that the term "christian nationalist" can refer to a wide range of *people* , who disagree with each *other* . I'm saying the *term* is not well defined, not the people it refers to. For example, included in the range of use of the term could be a christian who is nationalist and not a theonomist; and a theonomist who is not a nationalist. Obviously their ideas contradict with each other.

[@IamGrimalkin]

@dungbungler If you're defining christian nationalism as "theonomy" (which is within the range of the use of the term); you do not have to be polically conservative to be a christian nationalist.

[@CJNooberson]

The fact that this video needed to be made is profoundly sad.

[@rosemcguinn5301]

Yes. It is profoundly sad, isn't it?

[@SongSwan]

Of course God did not write the Constitution,Chairman Mao did.

[@lisad1623]

Agreed!

[@bethrossiter1857]

my first thought as well :(

[@MandK-i9x]

Profoundly!!! 😢

[@gordonmills2748]

"Guard against those men who make a great noise about religion, in choosing representatives. It is electioneering intrigue. If they knew the nature and worth of religion, they would not debauch it to such shameful purposes. If pure religion is the criterion to denominate candidates, those who make a noise about it must be rejected; for their wrangle about it proves they are void of it." Rev. John Leland, July 4th oration, 1802. Rev Leland was a baptist minister and a leader of the Virginia Baptists. He was crucial in convincing Madison to put a religious liberty clause in what became the 1st Amendment.

[@DaveGIS123]

Rev. Leland had a good point. There are a lot of people who make a lot of noise about 'religion' in order to dupe people. Paul had something to say about people who loudly make such 'religious' noises: "If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal." (1 Corinthians 13, NIV).

[@r.f.pennington746]

Many of us have been told that 'taking the Lord's name in vain' is the combination of two words that make a rather distasteful curse phrase (which, of course, now one can hear on prime time TV). Nothing could be further from the truth. Taking God's name in vain is stuff like "God told me, personally, to tell you..." or "I have special insight into the mind of God," or "God wants this congregation to get involved with..." or junk like my Lt. Gov--and others--saying Christ wrote the Constitution: which is vainly invoking God onto our wants, wishes and desires. God already has shown man the perfect government: a theocracy where He is in the centre of ALL life. Well, He showed it to us back in Exodus, and the folks who received it barely/hardly ever practised it! So, God has allowed governments to spring up in the form of monarchies, false or skewed theocracies, dictatorships, oligarchies, republics, you name it. None work all that well. None last. Personally, I see it as His was of saying, "Oh, you think THAT will work all that well? OK, here's your time." And one more item: after decades in the ministry, and hearing this 'founded on Christian principles/God inspired Americanism/etc, I have one burning query and that is, if God actually wrote the U.S. Constitution, then we surely sinned grievously by AMENDING it. To me, that would seem like adding a few 'corrections' and miscellaneous pages to the Bible.

[@jonathonpolk3592]

That heresy is promoted by those with ulterior motives, and it's adopted by those who know neither the Bible nor the Constitution. Sadly, educating them on history won't work because they aren't willing to shift their position to acknowledge reality. The lure of the simple narrative is strong and seductive.

[@scudthehero]

I may be misunderstanding you, but I think it’s fine to tell someone that God told you to tell them something as long as it builds them up instead of manipulates them. I have a relationship with God and he talks to me, isn’t learning to hear Gods voice apart of having a relationship with him?

[@r.f.pennington746]

@@scudthehero The question might be: where/when does God tell someone something. For sure, He tells us things in Scripture (the Thou Shall's and Thou Shall Not's) and may tell you something while you're sitting in Red Lobster ready to order. Problem comes when it is fabricated for any purpose. If we create any 'God told me to tell you...', then we have taken the seat of God, or at least climbed into the co-pilot seat. Yes, listen to God's voice in matters of life, but know that it will never supersede what has already been written. Not picking a fight, but after 35 years a pastor I've seen good intentions go horribly wrong many times. You're a disciple, ergo, you're my brother and I'll 'share a cloud' with you some day.

[@scudthehero]

@@r.f.pennington746 ​​⁠oh ok, I think I would disagree with you on your ‘seat of God’ idea. I believe that God talks to us but don’t think shot talks to us in a way that super secedes scripture, which is a classic problem in the church. I’m more discussing prophetic gifts (I’m not a cessationist) and developing a language with God. There are many ways to hear God but we don’t need to go into that here. We have a theology difference and an experience difference. Still, when someone says, “God told me to tell you this.” And it’s out of personal interest instead of to edify the person, then that’s not God. I think we can both agree on that.

[@garyh2100]

My problem with CN is that if God instituted the United States Constitution then Christians certainly have an obligation to always vote - even if it is only for the lesser of two evils (Which is exactly what the moral relativist Church leadership tells us to do). So the faithful minions scramble to figure out who the most evil candidate is so that they can vote for the other guy. Candidates have figured this out and realize that there is no need to convince anybody that they are righteous, only that they are less evil than the next guy. Since it is impossible to accurately predict who will be the most evil in their lifetime all Christians end up voting for someone evil and some mistakenly end vote for the most evil. And this, they say, God's solution for saving America.

[@Wrent_Free]

In the treaty of Tripoli, 2nd US president John Adams, who was the first vice-president and (gasp) a founding father wrote (again, in the capacity of President of the U S), “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility ..."

[@justingarner9806]

Christian nationalism causes us to serve two masters. As you look at the sayings below… these things are displayed on flags and merchandise across America. This is two different saviors, two different kingdoms, two different gospels, and two different spirits. Christian nationalism causes us to compromise with a love for this world. The Bible says that friendship with this world is enmity toward God. “God and country” “Faith and freedom” “I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross” “Jesus is Lord and Trump is my sword” “Jesus died for you and Trump lives for you” “Jesus is my Savior and Trump is my President” Once the church becomes focused on nationalistic and political aspirations, it loses its vision and becomes a victim of heresy. It looks for a false savior to replace Christ. And this is exactly what we’re seeing today in America. People have replaced Christ with Trump. They have replaced the Kingdom of God with America. They have compromised with a love for this world. And they have fallen into Trump’s cult of fear and hatred with a patriotic appeal to violence. Meanwhile, they look to Trump as the savior. Any persecution against Trump to them, is seen as a persecution against them. They have sadly fallen for antichrist Trump’s lie of “They’re after you and I’m in the way.”

[@justingarner9806]

​@@michaelward7051 Answer these honestly, have you ever vetted Donald Trump with an open mind? Have you ever considered the possibility that he could be deceiving you? What is Trump's Christian testimony? Does he bear good fruit?

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

​@@michaelward7051lol Donald Trump was born wealthy was handed a business by his father, has a reputation for stiffing his employees including his legal team and he had to file for bankruptcy numerous times because he ran his casinos into the ground. I almost died on the streets while Trump was in office. I am so sick of hearing what an "*amazing business man" he supposedly was. If he hadn't been voted out because he didn't care who he sacrificed to the gods of "/American prosperity" I would be dead also there were more than two candidates on the ballot.The only sensible thing that you said was "I don't think much about politics" and then you proved that you do not.

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

Fyi Donald Trump's " sins" are so egregious that only an individual void of any human compassion for women or the poor could overlook them. The " right" wants to preach against " moral relativism" and get look the other way at Trump's handling of classified documents, desire to be exempt for the law and outright lasciviousness? I don't think so . I actually paid attention during Sunday school.

[@bethrossiter1857]

exactly

[@RosannaDAgnillo]

Thanks Skye. I'm not American and I'm always shocked by this kind of ignorance. But now that I see spreading into other countries, I have to do my research about America and take a stand so that Christians in my country don't fall prey to similar garbage.

[@peterthompson8014]

Did God write the Constitution? Short answer, no. Long answer, Nooooòo!.

[@noybnoyb356]

Deuteronomy 32:21 KJV - They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. When I hear claims such as the U.S. Constitution is God inspired, I now know who that foolish nation is in Deuteronomy 32:21.

[@barnettmcgowan8978]

Well said!

[@jg90049]

You believe God speaks early 17th Century English, right?

[@Lili-Benovent]

Deuteronomy 28:53 "And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee" There you have it, your twisted God is advocating cannibalism and the bible is supposed to be the word of God. What a kind compassionate Father.

[@noybnoyb356]

@@Lili-Benovent With all due respect, you have no understanding of Deuteronomy 28 and who it was directed to. Why are you quoting from it?

[@Lili-Benovent]

With all due respect? you're giving me your due respect and then you mount an Ad hominem attack on me. I quoted from Deuteronomy just because you quoted from the same book in the bible to prove some vague point and I was telling you that your imaginary God is a cold, callous, uncaring creature with the feelings of a snake. @@noybnoyb356

[@Salisbury2015]

Such a great video, and correct on all points. Thank you for putting these videos out. As a Christian in the U.S. it saddens me (and others apparently in the comments) that it's even necessary that such a self-evident conclusion about our Constitution's secular nature is necessary to explain. People who seek to deify a man-made document are doing so for their own selfish political interests, and not to advance God's kingdom.

[@TheMister123]

How is it that we live in a society in which this video has to be more than two-seconds and one-word?

[@monzorella1]

No! 😅

[@lish916]

This is so great! Good job and Don't worry, Skye, those who are true will remain true. Everything is getting filtered and those who love religion more than God will be revealed.

[@gmen7131]

True to what?! So according to your faith the abominations and fornications of this generation will over be brushed over because it's all about being "nice" and "loving". Sadly, many in Babylon think the Holy God of heaven is just like them

[@eireanneruss2311]

Best discussion of this topic I've heard, and I've heard many. Thank you

[@notanotaku1101]

As a Canadian, I've always found it strange how some Americans talk about the Constitution. They talk about the founder's intent like they were prophets passing down scripture rather than fallible trying to figure out the best way to structure and run a government. So I'm not at all surprised there are now people dropping all pretenses and stating outright that it is divine. Saddened, but not surprised.

[@patrickc3419]

To preface, no, it absolutely is not divine nor akin to Scripture. That would be idolatry, as the Bible is the highest authority we have. Having clarified that, much of what is contained in the Constitution is also contained in Scripture (i.e. the right to self defense, right to private property, right to life, a clearly defined government with a very narrow scope of authority). Again, I stress that the Constitution and the Bible are NOT coequal. The Constitution has had to be amended in the past, whereas all Scripture is perfectly God breathed (per 2 Timothy 3:16-17). I have a very, very little knowledge of Canadian Confederation, and even less of your Charter. It’s not comparable to ours at all?

[@gmansard641]

I have often thought that one example of the Founders' genius is that they did not try to write a perfect Constitution. Their goal was to get a workable government in place, with imperfections they could deal with later. In contrast, at about the same time the French revolutionaries set about writing a Constitution, and they put a lot of effort into getting it perfect. It took them two years, by which time the situation had deteriorated to where their Constitution barely functioned, and things descended into terror and civil war. Certainly there's a lot more than that, but had the French revolutionaries been able to put a workable government into place by 1790 much of the ensuing chaos might have been avoided.

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

This answered some of my questions as a mixed race person that grew up in the Evangelical community about why it seems like Mormon teachings seem to have infiltrated Protestant denominations. Very informative.

[@jonhilderbrand4615]

"Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. "Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things? And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness," II Thessalonians 2:3-12 (NIV). While I do not believe Donald Trump is _the_ man of lawlessness, he is definitely _a_ man of lawlessness, and his followers have definitely been given over to a powerful delusion.

[@sscalercourtney5486]

You worship your own self-glorification not God. Jesus said "My Kingdom is of the next world, not this one." Yet you deny Jesus in favor of your own excuses for self-glorification. You probably not go to Heaven.

[@sscalercourtney5486]

Sorry, I misunderstood who you were addressing your post to. I thought you were addressing the speaker in this video. Please accept my apology. @@jonhilderbrand4615

[@JAMESLEVEE]

​@@jonhilderbrand4615I think she's talking to Trump. She's just got a poor grasp of English. Really poor.

[@jonhilderbrand4615]

@@JAMESLEVEE Thanks! You're probably right. I've removed my comment.

[@veggiet2009]

8:00 @dave miller, the funny thing is that at the time writing AD as "in the year of our Lord" WAS the politically correct thing to do

[@kittyhooch1]

I spent decades as a Christian and am now an atheist. History teaches the rite of kings and Romans admonishes us to accept it. I contend the act of revolution was a rejection of Christian doctrine. Having said this I greatly enjoyed this video for its honesty and perspective. I disagreed with little but was overall delighted.

[@TerryVogelaar]

The US Constitution is inspired by the "Plakkaat van Verlatinge", a 16th century Dutch document, issued to justify the Dutch revolt against Spanish rule. Also the British Declaration of Rights from the 17th century was an important influence. I'm Dutch, and we're very religious. The Bible says that faith can move mountains, and we removed all of them; the country is very flat.

[@mikelnu8224]

🤣

[@gmansard641]

NIce to hear a good sense of history. In a standard US high school they often teach that the US Constitution was a completely unique creation written by geniuses. While they were impressive men, their ideas did not spring out of nothing. The issues of the English Civil War 1640s were an enormous influence, which culminated in the Parliamentary BIll of RIghts 1689, parts of which appear word for word in the American Constitution written a century later.

[@paulrodgers252]

@@gmansard641which parts of said Thing are established in the Constitution of the United States?

[@gmansard641]

@@paulrodgers252 Prohibiting the quartering of soldiers in private homes, that laws to raise tax money will originate in the House of Commons (House of Representatives in the US), banning excessive bail and cruel unusual punishments, and that citizens have the right to petition for grievances. All of these points appear in both the Parliamentary Bill of Rights 1689 and the US Constitution written a century later.

[@paulrodgers252]

@@gmansard641the last few Words of the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States “…do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.” all the Words in the Constitution are for the United States of America no matter where they originated from; it is called “Word capture (take)” and that is what Nations do in War (Warranted arms response); been that way since for ever;

[@chappellroseholt5740]

Good morning from the beautiful SF Bay Area. Once again, Skye, you knocked it out of the park. Thank you.

[@dianecooksturges]

Absolutely well said!

[@factcheckthecharlatan]

The original Constitution of the United States that was ratified in 1789 had only ONE REFERENCE TO RELIGION: [Article 6] No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any Office or Public Trust under the United States. The de facto motto of the United States, adopted as part of the Great Seal of the U.S. by an Act of Congress in 1782, was E. Pluribus Unum (Out of Many, One). Congress changed it 174 years later (1956) to "In God We Trust". The ORIGINAL 'Pledge of Allegiance' was written in 1892 by Baptist Minister Francis Bellamy who DID NOT INCLUDE the words "Under God". Those were added by Congress 62 year later (1954). The U.S. didn't issue Paper Currency until 1861, & 'In God We Trust' didn't appear on it for 96 years (1957). “As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent. "I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799 “Christianity neither is, nor ever was part of the common law.” Thomas Jefferson “Religion and government will both exist in greater purity the less they are mixed together.” James Madison “The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” John Adams "In every country, in every age, the priest has always been hostile to liberty...He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection of his own." Thomas Jefferson Founding Father Thomas Paine on Christianity. “The most detestable wickedness, the most horrid cruelties, and the greatest miseries that have afflicted the human race, have had their origin in this thing called revelation, or revealed religion…” AMERICA WAS NOT FOUNDED ON "CHRISTIAN VALUES", IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN NATION, IT NEVER WILL BE A CHRISTIAN NATION. AMERICA IS A SECULAR COUNTRY. YOUR "FREEDUM OF RELIGION' ENDS WHERE MY CONSTITUTIONAL & BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS, LIBERTIES & PRIVLEGES BEGIN.

[@gmansard641]

There's one detail that's not often mentioned, but I think says a lot. The Senate which unanimously ratified the Treaty of Tripoli contained many men who had sat on the Constitutional Convention. They would have understood Original Intent better than anyone today.

[@food4thort]

If God wrote a perfect Constitution for the USA, why does it need regular amendments (27 to date)?

[@markkozlowski3674]

Not to mention a little thing called the Civil War.

[@vasylshevchenko9001]

“Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and render unto God What is God’s” In this verse Jesus is literally endorsing a distinction between your earthly civic duties and your obligations to God. This is the origin of separation of church and state.

[@donnaleveron5711]

False, Jesus is speaking of paying taxes and tithes. Read the chapter for context.

[@nobody.of.importance]

@@donnaleveron5711 IMO in context it could very well mean both.

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

​@@donnaleveron5711both are accurate actually because Jesus repeatedly said " My kingdom is not of this world"

[@UnashamedCaliforniagirl]

Jesus also specifically said that if his kingdom of this world his servants would fight not to have him crucified. Jesus came to establish the Kingdom of God not the " Empire of the United States" which by the way didn't even exist when Jesus walked the earth

[@paulchapman8023]

In context, it seems to me like Jesus is saying “If you’ve incurred a debt to Caesar by using coins that bear his graven image, you had better pay off that debt. Also, if you’ve incurred a debt to God by violating His commandment against graven images, you had better pay off that debt too.”

[@noybnoyb356]

Exodus 20:3 KJV - Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 1st Amendment of U.S. Constitution- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. How can the Constitution have come from YAH (God) when the the 1st Amendment allows for behavior that violates the 1st Commandment?

[@nobody.of.importance]

I thought it was supposed to be "YHWH"? To my understanding, it's a romanization of the hebrew version of his name and isn't supposed to have vowels in it.

[@epincion]

The Exodus verse applies to the Jewish nation and to born again Christians and cannot be forced on others. It’s between them and God.

[@noybnoyb356]

@@nobody.of.importance Psalm 68:4 NKJV - Sing to God, sing praises to His name; Extol Him who rides on the clouds, By His name YAH, And rejoice before Him. Isaiah 12:2 NKJV - Behold, God is my salvation, I will trust and not be afraid; ‘For YAH, the LORD, is my strength and song; He also has become my salvation.’ ” See also Strong's H3050 H3050 - yâ H3050 H3051 ›› ‹‹ H3049 יָהּ Transliteration: yâ Pronunciation: yaw Part of Speech: proper noun with reference to deity Root Word (Etymology): Contraction for יְהֹוָה (H3068), and meaning the same

[@AlexLightGiver]

The actual 1st. Commandment of God before it was altered said this: " I am the God of Creation and if you called me by any other name would still apply because I am the God of all that is." ( This significantly suggests God has no Ego as taught by Religion) 🙏

[@BB-rh2ml]

@@AlexLightGiverAnd you have access to this unaltered version how?

[@asdfrozen]

It's also a gross violation of the third commandment.

[@nomoretithing_guy]

I didn't know people believed that God inspired the constitution!! You did an excellent job of explaining the issues.

[@gmansard641]

Unfortunately it's quite common. See David Barton's book The Myth of Separation. As "history" it has a lot of holes, a regular Swiss Cheese.

[@somdavarya8078]

I am a Muslim but I find your KZbins very education. God Bless You very much.

[@andyvideos082380]

Very powerful video as a high school social studies teacher I approve 100%, one of the hardest concepts to teach students is this concept and to not get push back from a politically polarized public.

[@echobase2000]

I’ve found this to be a growing sentiment. But looking at the document itself dispels this idea, as you point out. My concern is that people hold up the constitution as equal to the Bible. That’s troubling. One is a human document that’s been amended several times, the other doesn’t change. Heck, just look at how the constitution considered enslaved people to be two-thirds of a man. The founders got that wrong. Thanks for your work here.

[@ErictheHalf_bee]

Lifelong Mormon here, and yep, the idea of divine inspiration (*not* dictation or authorship) of the US constitution runs deep and would require a book to explain it. Suffice to say, while there's a reverence for it, it's generally understood within my tradition that this divine inspiration still had to deal with all the petty nastiness of normal human ambition and self-will, resulting in an imperfect "the best we could do at the time" document that is definitely not scripture. But it's also just a means to an end. And it's tempered by our 12th Article of Faith: "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." In other words, be good citizens wherever you are. That last bit seems to have gotten lost in a doubling down of constitution dogmatism across the board. In recent years there's been a significant effort within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to de-emphasize it's America-ness in favor of its worldwide presence. Alas, many of my fellow congregants have not been paying attention. I'm looking at you, Senator Lee. And to your last point, as a US military veteran, I swore an oath to protect and defend the WHOLE constitution. I'm always amused at conservative appeals to the supposedly clear and unchanging "founders' intent" when, as you pointed out, that intent includes a mechanism to correct their oversights through the amendment process. You know, things like counting 3/5ths of certain people as actual people, or checking presidential ambition to only 2 elective terms, or allowing my wife to vote her own conscience, etc. They say they want to roll back the constitution to some arbitrary point in time where it more clearly reflected Madison’s, Jefferson's, et. al., real beliefs on governance. But which constitution? The one of 1787, 1789, 1868? 1919 or 1964? It's all or none - we either have a constitution that can adapt to society's needs, or we have one that’s locked in the age of tall ships. Inspired or not, God is not some kind of heavenly version of Ron Popeil - "set it and forget it" - who favors bicameral legislatures over all other forms of legislative organization, or who eternally abhors the merging of two states into one.

[@battlejitney2197]

“Ron Popeil” - you really dated yourself with that. Of course, so did I by pointing it out! 😁 Well stated commentary, BTW.

[@jamgill9054]

Excellent job. I look forward to seeing more of your work. Keep up the honesty.

[@davidmehling4310]

Whenever I hear someone claim "God wrote the Constitution," "the Constitution is a Christian document," "the Constitution is inspired by the Bible," I ask them to count the number of times the words, God, Bible, Jesus, Christian, or church appear in that document. So far nobody has been able to find them because those words are not in there. Also, the words only or except do not appear alongside freedom of religion in the First Amendment

[@ThethomasJefferson]

That is the poorest response I have ever heard of, there are over 31,000 verses in the Holy Scriptures, and over 783,000 words. So to just say that small list to justify your own opinion is fallacy.

[@davidmehling4310]

@@ThethomasJefferson if you are going to post in the name of Thomas Jefferson, at least read The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, the letter to the Danbury Baptists, which clearly express his views on church and state as well as the story behind the Jefferson Bible. If your namesake were here, he would lol at your remarks

[@ThethomasJefferson]

@@davidmehling4310oh yes some of my favorite things to read when people fail at this argument, because those are actually going completely against your narrative. Something else I recommend you reading is “The Memoir of Thomas Jefferson” how the used the Hebrew Law, and the Magna Carta. You should also read a lot of the other founding fathers writings on this subject as well. Joseph Story is another great person you should read up on and see what he has to say about it. So seeing as the Founders disagree with you on this I will stick with them on the topic.

[@chadpaynedmin]

Excellent!! Knee-slapping, fist-bumping, hanky-waving “amens” all around!!

[@granitarichardson5156]

This is good teaching. Thank you!

[@petedazer3381]

No god ever wrote anything at all……god is a creation of men’s minds, meant as a “keep them in line” tool. It’s always been that way, get over it……..

[@markkozlowski3674]

The Constitution as originally written comprehensively protects the institution of slavery. Would God write a document which did this>

[@PastorRTP]

The bible protects the institution of slavery too. Does that mean God didn't have anything to do with the bible?

[@markkozlowski3674]

@@PastorRTP While the Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments, recognizes slavery as a legitimate institution, Galatians 3:27-28 also asserts the equality of slaves and their masters before God. This was quite a radical idea for the time.

[@COMALiteJ]

More on the “in the Year of our Lord” _(anno Domini_ / A.D.) thing: while those two letters do refer to the birth of Jesus (and incorrectly because there’s no interpretation of the Christmas stories in either Matthew or Luke [which contradict the heck outta each other on almost every point] which allows for Jesus to’ve been born in A.D. 1 - Matthew requires Him to’ve been born _no later than_ 4 B.C. [Christ born no later than four years _before_ Christ!] because that’s when King Herod _died,_ while Luke requires Him to’ve been born no _earlier_ than A.D. 6 [born a minimum of six years into His Years] because of census of Quirinius [“Cyreneus” in the KJV] which is the whole reason Luke says that the Holy Family went to Bethlehem while Mary was so very pregnant with Jesus), the Gregorian (slightly modified Julian) calendar we use in Western Civilization has more to it than just the two-letter era abbreviation. There’s also the names of the days of the week, and of the months of the year. Thing is, _all seven_ of the names of the days of the week are named for _pagan_ gods and goddesses, and so are ⅔ of the names of the months of the year (well, July [Julius] and August[us] are named for Roman Cæsars, but those two especially were considered by many Romans to be demigods who achieved apotheosis and became gods after their deaths like Herakles/Hercules) and the remaining №⅓ are just the Latin ordinal numbers 7ᵗʰ-10ᵗʰ followed by the Latin for “month.” *• Sunday* - generic god of the sun’s day (oooh, most Christians worship on this day!) *• Monday* - generic god(dess) of the moon’s day *• Tuesday* - Norse war god Tiu’s day *• Wednesday* - Norse/Teutonic king of the gods Woden [Odin]’s day *• Thursday* - Norse thunder god Thor’s day *• Friday* - Norse queen of the gods Frigg[a]’s day *• Saturday* - Roman sky god Saturn’s day (sorry, 7ᵗʰ-Day Christians) *• January* - Two-faced Roman god Janus *• February* - Roman purification ritual of Februa in honor of Juno (see below) *• March* - Roman war god Mars *• April* - Roman goddess Avril *• May* - Roman Earth goddess Maya *• June* - Roman queen goddess Juno *• July* - Julius Cæsar, demigod *• August* - Cæsar Augustus, demigod So, _all that_ is for _pagan_ deities, but Nationalist Christians (Nat-Cs [thanks. Betty Bowers]) wanna focus on a couple letters which are hardly even used in daily use?

[@DavidHaile_profile]

Good points, all of them. Yet, I repeat what I often think about the Holy Post podcast, What then shall we do? Being "right" doesn't solve the world's problems or save souls. This reminds me of Paul's Faith vs. Works discussions. "Works" is the missing piece, and I don't know where to go with it. Wave a flag, march, write letters, cast a ballot - those are just expressing opinions and not action. I hope one of us figures out what to do. It could be nothing more complicated than taking care of widows and orphans and generally helping out where we can.

[@egillogly1]

Say it! Thank you for this video! Please keep them coming. Keep addressing/rebuking/calling out as wrong the dangerous ideology of Christian nationalism.

[@DwayneShaw1]

- As to the Ten Commandments, there are actually 613 (including a lot that are positively immoral and/or bizarre). The ones that are commonly thought to be 'The Ten' are taken from Exodus 20. But the phrase doesn't appear in the Bible until Exodus 34, when God hands down the ones actually called "the ten commandments". Exodus 34:14-26 1 Thou shalt worship no other god. 2 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods. 3 The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. 4 Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day rest. 5 Thou shalt observe the feast of weeks. 6 Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord God. 7 Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven. 8 Neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left until the morning. 9 The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the Lord thy God. 10 Thou shalt not seeth a kid in his mother's milk. Exodus 34:27-28 "Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant-the Ten Commandments."

[@thatevangarcia]

The fact that they used AD and they still didn’t include God in the document at all says everything right there.

[@tgleo1]

Your commentary reflects a sound view of the United States Constitution, and a sound view of our Christian faith. Thank you!

[@LoveAllAnimals101]

I just found this channel and am happy to say, yet another outlet for things that can be believed in out of pure fantasy (faith)!

[@seamas1]

No, God did not write the constitution nor did he write the Bible.

[@bethrossiter1857]

We are just another Babylon and anyone who tells you differently? is not preaching King Jesus

[@ann-charlotteholman7843]

However, on the dollar notes it says: "In God We Trust" . When did that come about?

[@thienphucn1]

Around the beginning of the cold war.

[@firecloud77]

*"Can we doubt that only a Divine Providence placed this land, this island of freedom, here as a refuge for all those people in the world who yearn to breathe freely?" --Ronald Reagan*

[@austlander]

Do you genuinely believe this is an island of freedom? That freedom really doesn't exist anywhere else? @firecloud77

[@gwentie01]

So informative and helpful to aid in discussion with others who are not aware of this historical part of the Constitution. Thank you so much for making this video.

[@billybobwombat2231]

What a warped messed up insular country, sad

[@spankydave7758]

💯. Thank you. Well done.

[@dmichael100]

Former evangelical Christian of 4 decades here. Preached, have PhD in biblical theology, believed it wholeheartedly until I finally honestly sat down and studied the Bible and Christianity. The problem isn't that more and more Christians can easily believe that the Constitution is divinely inspired; the problem is, the first phrase in this video description- the Bible isn't divinely-inspired. To say "we KNOW' (coming from one who has said that very thing dozens of times) is ridiculous. You KNOW no such thing. You have just chosen to believe it when everything about its origin, translations and other writings of the time show it clearly to be humanly-derived and historically contingent. So, don't be so quick to dismiss all these Christians who firmly believe (and fill the Spirit move in their hear when they think about it) that the Constitution is divinely inspired. If you believe the Bible is in any way communication or influence from an intentional deity then you yourself illustrate how such a belief can take hold with no real evidence to support it.

[@KofaAvenueAnimations]

THANK YOU,THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!🤗 May God bless you, brother!

[@danielunderwood3198]

As a Texan I’d like to apologize for Dan Patrick he’s a very weird ,and radical man. We will work to fix that soon enough. Again sorry, our bad.

[@sarco64]

With a statement like that by Michael Flynn (1:47) regarding the Constitution and the Ten Commandments, it's clear that he has no knowledge of either American history or Christian theology.

[@rebareyes6595]

No God did not 'write' the constitution. However, it should have been inspired by GOD'S LAW AND THE BIBLE.. but sadly, assuming God inspired the constitution, men have made laws against the rules of God. One example do not lie but men made laws that ALLOWS THE BREAKING OF GOD'S LAW by certain groups.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

It was inspired by those indirectly. Mostly it was inspired by political agitators inspired by mostly-secular philosophers (e.g. Locke) inspired by Christian philosophers (e.g. Aquinas) inspired by scripture but also by Greek and Roman philosophers (e.g. Plato). There are echoes of the Bible in the Constitution, but they’re pretty distant.

[@BB-rh2ml]

God’s Law is what they used to justify slavery.

[@--..-...-..-.--....]

An eye for an eye?

[@mikelynn8977]

The one thing most people are not eating up is the interpretations that come from the not so holy "holy post"

[@averageuser4367]

How did the Biden administration commit treason?

[@MrMattSax]

How can it be demonstrated that any god wrote any document?

[@mikedeluca3897]

The fact that adults still believe that there’s a God is profoundly sad.

[@gmansard641]

Most of the Ten Commandments would be unconstitutional if put to judicial review. The First Amendment nullifies the First Commandment.

[@paulchapman8023]

I think the only commandments that might stand up to judicial review are those against murder, theft, and slander. (I’m pretty sure slander isn’t protected free speech, but it’s hard to tell these days.)

[@gmansard641]

@@paulchapman8023 Yes, most of the Commandments are religious injunctions, and no Constitutional law can prohibit me from kneeling before a graven image of The Holy Cow. Slander and libel can be prohibited, along with bearing false witness if under oath. And let us not forget to refrain from boiling a kid in its mother's milk.

[@MidnightDStroyer]

I wouldn't say that God wrote the Constitution, as it was initially drafted by Thomas Jefferson & debated/ratified by the members of the Continental Congress. However, its core principles are based on Natural Law as set forth by the Creator (as paraphrased from the Declaration of Independence) & further focuses on how human beings in particular can best abide by those Laws. It is especially evident when perusing the Bill of Rights (Amendments 1-10). God didn't write it *directly* but was the inspiring spirit of it. Another heavy influence was Emmerich de Vattal's "The Law of Nations" as it pertains to keeping laws that not only encourage individual freedoms but also in context with how nations can best interact (immigration/naturalization, diplomacy, & trade) with each other in as peaceful of ways as possible. In essence, these two influences were utilized in such a way as to allow the maximum amount of freedom to individual people while keeping a society & civilization together that wouldn't be constantly in a state of violent anarchy, & to be organized well enough to deal with & defend itself while interacting with other nations. The reason why the US Constitution does not mention God or any specific religious denomination while many of the State Constitutions do is because the States & the United States set the distinction between different *legal jurisdictions* whereas a united quorum of States can & do override the United States jurisdiction (Constitutional Convention, Electoral College, etc). The State governments retain most of their sovereignty with only a few limited exceptions being granted to the US level of government & in equal consensus with each other. This way the States & the People retain their freedom of religion & the federal government has no lawful authority over them; ie- This is most evident in the 1st Amendment & that "no religious test shall be required..." concerning the choosing of any person into an Office of Public Trust on the federal level. This is to protect the States, the People & the nation as a whole from the imposition of a tyrannical regime being based on any religious doctrines...Regardless if it's being imposed by a confluence of States or even the US government itself, the People, States, & nation are protected from the vagarities of any specific doctrine or dogma. History is full of examples where widespread oppression was conducted in the name of some religion or another & our Founders were aware of this, wanting to prevent tyranny under such an excuse. This is why they put Christianity on equal consideration with Epicurians, Catholics, Buddhists, & any others...To establish *any one* as a national religion was to also disparage against all others & the Religious Freedom promised in the 1st Amendment. The US Constitution *acknowledges & encourages* religious practice among individuals but does *not* allow for any religion to obtain a position to *rule* over them. This trait is a means of *lawful protection* of the religious, not a dismissal of them. One only really needs to look at the Preamble to see the *purpose* of the US Constitution as a whole: To form a "more perfect union" among the People & the States as a nation, recognizing that people are not perfect but we can change & improve while on the *path* to perfection even if we may never reach it. It's okay to take divine inspiration to get & stay on that path but not okay to become an oppressive totalitarian nation *because* of a religion, which leads one *away* from perfection. "The Constitution was written only for a moral & religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." ~John Adams

[@markkozlowski3674]

Jefferson has no role in drafting the Constitution. He was serving as America's Minister to France at the time of the Philadelphia Convention.

[@kimsteinke713]

Psalm 51: "Please forgive me, God, I have done bad things, I know that I have not obeyed you" Psalms 41:4: "I said, 'I have sinned against you, Lord; be merciful to me and heal me'" Psalm 25:6-7: "Remember, Lord, your compassion and mercy which you showed long ago. Do not recall the sins and failings of my youth. In your mercy remember me, lord, because of your goodness" Ephesians 4:31: "Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you" Matthew 6:12: "And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors"

[@BlueBoboDoo100]

The belief that the Constitution is God-inspired is patently absurd and nothing less than complete heresy. Anyone making this claim should be called out by pastors and the church.

[@greglogan7706]

This is super well made - thanks Skye - spot on! Facts matter! I will be donating this year - just because of this one - albeit many other "good works" in Christ!

[@mrzero27]

That last look was pretty spicy there Skye. I liked it.

[@vincewhite5087]

Jesus divinty was late 4th century construct. Different from Logo movement or Nicene. Nicene was argument of same nature, but many councils after disagreed. Jefferson was a strong Unitarian.

[@mrbuckmeister]

Constitutional originalism isn't really any different than people claiming their interpretation of the Bible is the only literal way to read the Bible. It's the same thinking just different texts.

[@ErictheHalf_bee]

hence their manifesting in the same insular communities.

[@russelljohn5258]

The Founders purpose was to create a government that would not become a tyranny. They understood that tyranny is visited upon the citizens not just from monarchies but also from the church. That is why they wrote a Constitution that demands the complete seperation of church from the state. The Founders well knew that liberty, freedom and equality could be just as easily snuffed out by church rule as by monarchial rule. They saw that in Europe, and many of the early colonists were victims of severe religious persecution and sought to escape it, to be free to worship freely according to their faith. The Founders were not inspired by Christ or the Bible, they were inspired by the thinkers of the Enlightenment which sought to overturn the domination of people by monarchies and by the church or religion. Some of the Founders may even have been athiests, others deists, who believed in God but not in the personal god of Christianity or in Jesus. I am sure there may have been a Christian or two among them, and if not there were other Christians in their towns and communities. The Founders, like other Enlightenment thinkers, realized that the only way to assure true religious freedom was to keep religion strictly outside of the functions of the government. Thus the seperation of church and state clause' prominent position in the Constitution.

[@clevebaker8399]

Nobody seems to “study” the scriptures anymore. Just believe what some con artist says about the Bible for money 🤔😵‍💫study to show yourself approved 😘

[@kimsteinke713]

Thank y'all so much for what y'all are doing Thank you Skye🎉❤ You on my saving angels this is Grandma in Texas the gay one. 🙏😇🌈

[@patrickc3419]

Repent and believe the Gospel. God doesn’t overlook sin. Grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone.

[@thomaslong8401]

If god had written the constitution, it would start out all about him, similar to the 10 commandments. Such as…”I created your country now bow down before me”. “Your loyalty is to me first, then your country”.

[@Shannon-ij1pm]

Well spoken. I hadn't thought about the changing/non-changing aspect of christianity and secular views of the Constitution. The only problem is, christian nationalists believe the Constitution was written for them and applies to them alone. Changing the Constitution means giving rights to people who don't matter or are not patriots like them.

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

Thomas Paine, forgotten writer who provided the American revolution with literal ammunition with his pamphlet "Common Sense", an essay designed to push the colonists toward independence from Britain, and was certainly influential in the writing of the Bill of Rights, on Christianity: "Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity."

[@AJ21969]

Our Preamble says Secure the Blessings of Liberty. To ourselves and our posterity.

[@alexcitron5159]

So right! They didn't have the C.E. designation in 1787. Another subtle clue is that president's oath can be I solemly swear OR affirm. I don't see how you can MAKE the constitution Christian; on the other hand, is there anything apposed to faith in Jesus in the Constitution?

[@76JStucki]

Well, yes. The ensconcing of slavery and the 3/5 clause both are antithetical to Christianity. -yes, I am aware that there is slavery in the Bible. There is also a very long line of biblical and theological reasoning throughout history demonstrating why it is not really what God wants, despite the fact that the Bible never explicitly condemns it. -and yes, I am aware of the reasons behind the 3/5 clause. Doesn’t change the fact that we were calling one group of people less human than another.

[@ZipplyZane]

What little bit I found online suggests that CE and BCE did exist in the 1700s, but they were being used by Jewish scholars, not anyone else.

[@sethheasley9538]

I honestly thought this was going to be a fifteen second video. "Did God write our constitution? Come on!"

[@Tinstared]

This is quite a history lesson for me. Thanks for the efforts you put into this.

[@PockASqueeno]

I agree with the vast majority of this. However, there are a couple of flaws I’d like to point out. At the end of the video, you mentioned that the constitution allows us to be more humane, compassionate, and just. Those three things often come into conflict with each other. It’s nearly impossible to be all three. As an American Christian, I would argue that the government’s job is to be just, while it’s the church’s responsibility to be compassionate. I also question the poll mentioned. I’m not sure why race is relevant here. But if you indeed are going to base your polling on race, why do you only split white people into evangelical and non-evangelical? You asked the white people for their religious views, but the black and Hispanic people are just…black and Hispanic, with no regard for their religious beliefs? That’s just sloppy polling. I agree with the overall message of this video though,

[@garyh2100]

I am against Christian nationalism for the very reasons expressed in this video. What I'd like to hear, though, is an accurate explanation of how Christians should function in this secular society. I'm conservative, and since most Christians who oppose Christian nationalism are liberal their counter is that Christian Americans need to become more tolerant, less judgemental, and accepting of how non Christians choose to live their lives - after all, it's their country too. And that, in my opinion, is every bit as harmful to the citizens of this country as claim that we are God's special nation for this special time.

[@itkirk]

Thank you Sky and everyone at THP for being honest and good christians. And thank you for speaking out against this false idea and Christian Nationalism. Many of the founders got most of their ideas of how a government should be formed by the romans and greeks.

[@ZipplyZane]

BCE and CE were not in common use in the 1700s. They were invented then, but were primarily used by Jewish scholars, not by the general public.

[@Josephiah24]

Are you opposed to Doug Wilsons view of CN? I'd like to see you talk about the more theologically serious "Christian Nationalists" not just the loud silly people.

[@jonathonpolk3592]

Doug Wilson, the slavery apologist who defended all the atrocities committed against African slaves in the States? That's someone you consider theologically serious? I would suggest taking another look at him, because he's hot garbage.

[@76JStucki]

They have already addressed Doug Wilson’s view in a number of other episodes. They don’t consider Doug Wilson to have a theologically serious view, and neither do I.

[@andykmn]

​@@76JStuckibut what about the flamethrowers!

[@markdouglas8073]

Doug Wilson is a white supremacist, not a theologically sound pastor

[@mcpetzold]

Some people confuse the sovereignty of God and "all good comes from God" with "God inspired." God inspired the Bible. God allowed the constitution. It is not inspired like the Bible is inspired.

[@edot6911]

🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ why is this even a thing?

[@bingo7799]

I think what they meant is that God gave the writers of the Constitution wisdom to include provisions that would preserve freedoms better. There is no heresy to believe that God is involved in the affairs of man.

[@migrantfamily]

Anyone who wants to combine Christianity with politics will do well to remember that Christ sees society from the perspective of someone born homeless, made a refugee for nothing more than simply existing, in opposition to those in power and ultimately killed for doing good. So many times I read the gospels and find that I am the Pharisee, the teacher of the Law, the one in need of repentance. By the Grace of God, I also find that I am the criminal being promised Paradise and the adulteress being forgiven.

[@geekcollage]

Short answer: no. 🤦

[@lets_try_more_repect]

Thank you for the video. Interestingly, though we in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints do believe the Constitution was inspired by God, (1) we don't believe everything inspired by God has to be at the authoritative level of Scripture. So God can inspire secular writings that are of benefit to mankind but that does NOT mean that we treat those writings as God- breathed Scripture. (2) We also don't have a closed cannon (for example, we have modern day prophets), so for us, we are totally fine (at least theologically, maybe not politically for some) with the Constitution changing.

[@76JStucki]

Curious- WHY do you not believe that everything God-inspired has to be at the level of Scripture? What is the rubric which tells you where something falls in this hierarchy of inspiration? Seems arbitrary to me so I’m curious how you understand that

[@arturocuba8025]

I don't agree. For many of us who are not from the USA, the American constitution is a genius invention that paved the way to understand how to be a modern nation in that time. It was written by men with a biblical worldview, that's enough. The reason why the American constitution does not mention any specific faith nor religious authoritative institution is because the recent ancestors of these men came to America escaping persecution from intolerant men, kings, and religious establishment who used the name of god to force their conscience to believe and to live against their convictions of faith. It was very important not give a chance to anyone in this new nation to think that he or she could use the power of the government and the law to serve any specific faith. "We the people", can be interpreted in different ways, but I'm pretty sure never as "by ourselves without God". Most Americans today seem not to understand the struggle of those times nor the mind and faith of those men including Christians, and that too amazes me.

[@BB-tm3sx]

Almost like spending 2000 years under-educating your followers, training them not to think too hard and to respect the man behind the podium might have negative consequences on their civic capabilities.... 🤔

[@krisfreed2645]

Excellent explanation

[@perryewell5395]

Take a closer look at the miracles that surrounded this document that has guided the freest nation in the world, and dismiss not God's hand. James Madison, writing about the event later, said, “It is impossible for the man of pious reflection not to perceive in it a finger of that Almighty Hand, which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief in the critical states of the revolution.” On July 4, 1787, General Washington led the delegates to a prayer service at Philadelphia’s Reformed Calvinist Lutheran Church. We do not have record as to why Franklin's motion failed, nor do we know how many of the delegates were on their knees daily begging God for assistance. On 28 May 1788, Washington wrote the Marquis de Lafayette that the prospects for ratification of the Constitution were “so much beyond any thing we had a right to imagine or expect eighteen months ago, that it will demonstrate as visibly the finger of Providence, as any possible event in the course of human affairs.”

[@eugeneoisten9409]

If he didn't write the bible why would anyone assume he wrote the US Constitution 🤔

[@paulchapman8023]

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither Christian nor Mahometan, neither Hindoo nor Infidel; for we are all one in the First Amendment.

[@0nlyThis]

"That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” Evidently, along with Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, the Creator endowed us, as well, with the capacity to govern ourselves - without need of hereditary ruling class or church hierarchy.

[@MrGilfred]

Even though there are a lot of people that believe that America is a Christian nation. In reality is that some of our founders were Christian. God wouldn't write the constitution, if it was God's doing the Constitution would be the bible. Because it would be a theocracy instead of a democracy. The God of the bible has nothing to do with America at all. If God did have involvement then he would be blessing man's effort to try to successfully rule and govern himself independent of his God, which God won't do. The reason we have suffering is because Adam believed that he would be better off choosing for himself what is good and what is bad for him instead of having God do that for him. 6,000 years later it has been proven that man has dominated man to his own injury. People either don't know or have never learned that there is a separation clause that doesn't allow the government to choose a state religion. The reason it is there is because many of the people that came here came from oppressive religious ran state governments. It would be insane to think that they would leave one oppressive religious ran state government to go and create another oppressive religious state ran government.

[@brendantibs1217]

So, to make this perfectly clear. Jacob Shallus Born in Philadelphia, PA 1750 was the only human that scribe the United States Constitution of America and On September 17, 1787, 39 of the convention's 55 delegates signed the United States Constitution at Independence Hall in Philadelphia. Last time I checked The entity known as GOD from the Christian Holy Bible was un capable to physically write the Constitution that was Jacob Shallus. Also, Jesus himself couldn't have written the Constitution. Jesus died between the years 30 and 36 A.D from biblical scholars. It's mind boggling that the scribes of the holy Bible have trouble knowing the births and deaths dates of the characters they wrote in the bible. I grateful that a Human scribed the Constitution as an atheist the 1st Amendment protect me from any Religion or Cult which believes Thay are a Religion. All regions started out as either a Cult or Sect.

[@markanthony3275]

Does the Bible not say that God appoints rulers and God removes them...and God exalts nations and God humbles nations...and God blesses nations...and God destroys nations? Then everything that goes into nationhood God knows about and allows to happen...for good, as in America's case...and for bad, as in those nations that reject Him .

[@markkozlowski3674]

Romans 13:1.

[@chong2389]

That gave rise to the Divine Right of Kings. The issue being, the monarch was only answerable to God, not to any earthly power. That concept was abandoned by the royal houses of Europe, even before the American War of Independence.

[@alwaysbroke5372]

People have to realize there are various gods. So I don't ask, did God inspire the constitution, but what god inspired the constitution?

[@--..-...-..-.--....]

Who cares? God doesn't exist.

[@katleighc]

Thank you.