Did I Body Shame Freelee?

[@Aceofwolves]

Now did Freelee EVER apologize for calling you a child abuser?

[@Sandra-pz8mu]

THIS

[@pearlsonaplate5543]

She called her that? What! Omg..

[@Aceofwolves]

@@pearlsonaplate5543 yeah swayze feed her kid a vegan chicken nugget/fried food and Freelee had an issue with it.

[@animefangrl0902]

​@Pearls on a Plate yes and also calling unnatural vegan a drug addict just for drinking coffee

[@ardenalexa94]

@@Aceofwolves yep…. I guess most of the world are drug addicts since a lot of people drink coffee. 😂

[@meluvfriends]

Its the flippant "multiple personalities" comment for me. DONT BODY SHAME GUYS! Makes an ignorant comment about mental illness. A plus. Love it. 🙄🙄🤡🙄

[@princesseville6889]

Only Freele can give us gems like that Ö.o also, she gets breast implants and then speaks about natural female bodies and how healthy she looks - ignoring the fact her breast isnt natural and highly changes the perception of her reproductive fitness. She breathes double standards lol...

[@arcturianoracle784]

Lol her point was not “don’t body shame guys!” her point was that that’s what Swayze has said and yet did it to Freelee…

[@arcturianoracle784]

@@princesseville6889 She speaks about natural female bodies (etc) from the perspective of regretting her breast augmentation surgery + her past of following those types of beauty standards. That’s her whoooolleeee point. She regrets having been that way and now realizes the perspective she now holds.

[@pearlsonaplate5543]

That was out of pocket. I can’t believe she said that.

[@jamesbroutzos4826]

oh ffs.

[@AzjatyckiCukier]

If you need someone to be included in your "we don't care", let's assume you are including me in the statement. No multiple personalities needed.

[@tejo29se]

You can include me too 😀

[@Trivico]

Me too!

[@spidermiss2426]

add me!!

[@allysonhutchens831]

Came to the comments to say this! It doesn't matter what her body/ any body looks like

[@adelakozakova8895]

I join the crowd as well! 😀

[@maritje4225]

“The plural of anecdote is not data” That’s such a good quote

[@ReginaApple007]

She blamed rawvana for her baby dying, but don't call her boney! Lol

[@pearlsonaplate5543]

I did not know this. That woman is out of control.. plus she acts like she’s so confident in herself.. if she was then being called boney shouldn’t be a problem.

[@Aceofwolves]

@@pearlsonaplate5543 yeah rawvana had a miscarriage and Freelee made a whole video blaming the diet she was on despite the fact there is NO evidence that diet causes miscarriages.

[@ambersummer2685]

I’m honestly glad she discontinued her pregnancy. That poor child would go through hell, especially if they grew up to disagree with her.

[@Serioslump]

I’ve never once felt like you were promoting a diet. You never say that everyone should eat the way you do-Freelee on the other hand says that in just about every video.

[@Kx____]

As more of a general topic, I'm wondering if you could share your thoughts on the childhood obesity problems the world is currently facing? I'm interesting to hear you talk about it since you have kids yourself.

[@nickmeale1957]

What's to talk about? There's a problem alright, just drive past any school. The kids need to eat healthier and exercise more, what's left to say?

[@PhilosophyLines]

@@nickmeale1957 How to achieve that? And it's mostly eating healthier, way more important than exercise.

[@plantahari]

@@PhilosophyLines kids need proper nutrition. more whole foods, less packaged "convenience" food that plagues the supermarket aisles, especially in the usa. whole grains, legumes, veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds. a diet that's high in whole foods take a little more of your time, but it's easier on the wallet than packaged junk. fish, eggs, some dairy are great if not vegan. less saturated and trans fats, less added sugar should be a major focus. micro nutrients are equally important as macros, so kids must be given some foods that are good sources of calcium, iron, iodine, vitamins, etc. calcium in particular is not easy to get in sufficient quantities from natural vegan foods except brassica greens, so fortified plant milks, tofu, vegan yogurt, etc are essential. a multivitamin or fortified foods for other micro nutrients is always helpful. seconds, kids must be active. there is no way around this. no social media, limited tv and video games, and at least an hour or two doing physical activities like swimming, playing a sport, gymnastics, martial arts, dancing, etc. playing outside also helps kids develop better immunity and have fewer allergies (kids in poorer countries are rarely allergic to common foods). third and also very important, parents must be actively involved in their kids' lives. life is hectic and these days many parents work overtime to make do, but then they have to think twice about having kids. it's best if both parents are involved in the kid's life. there are no shortcuts to raising physically and mentally healthy children. parents cannot take shortcuts and then be surprised their kids grow up to be fat slobs.

[@rrr441]

The world? I live in Europe and I hardly ever see an overweight child.

[@Kx____]

@@rrr441 I live in europe as well, there are so many here in my country! it's shocking to be honest.

[@lavendercoldbrew]

I think if you are using the aesthetics of your body as part of your "evidence" to support your claims, you lose the right to expect people not to comment on the aesthetics of your body. If you base your whole argument on "I look better than anyone else, therefore I know better than anyone else" like she does, you can't expect people to just never disagree with you or criticize your arguments because that will by extension involve criticism of your body. That's a totally different thing than body shaming someone that never talks about their own body to discredit or insult them, which is something Freelee does herself anyways.

[@slavicabeauty9352]

Isn’t your standards should apply to you not other people and how they act? If I’m against body shaming I’m against. End of story. Freelee never claimed that no one can comment her body as she admits that she’s doing it all the time to herself and others. It’s just about hypocrisy. Freelee has someone that Unnatural Vegan is missing - consistency and consequently statements, which are quite big indicators of being real.

[@MySaraMarie]

@@slavicabeauty9352 If we’re talking hypocrisy, Freelee made a career out of body shaming.

[@slavicabeauty9352]

@@MySaraMarie but she’s not claiming that she didn’t 🤷🏼‍♀️she admits many times that she’s judging bodies and how people look. It can be wrong but still it’s real.

[@sashamiranda9336]

@@slavicabeauty9352 Then you know who the hypocrite is. Leanne has taken what Swayze has said out of context. I have been watching both of them for years. Swayze was talking about Leanne and Harley blatantly calling people they didn’t like “fat” and “lazy” and taunting them about their fatty, meaty diets and how they couldn’t compare to them athletically. She was pointing out how demeaning it was and how it doesn’t motivate anyone, it just shows Leanne and Harley up as being @$$holes. This is true. If you want to motivate someone, being offensive is not the way to do it, yet it is precisely what both Leanne and her ex did back in the day. Swayze was right to call that behaviour out.

[@slavicabeauty9352]

@@sashamiranda9336 then call the behaviour out not the look. I understand everyone can have an opinion. I watch them as well maybe not constantly but both of them Unnatural Vegan and Freelee for years. And I have to say that Freelee can be seen as someone rude but she is still more consistent in her opinions. And I kindly disagree with you as well about motivation because Freelee probably demotivate lots of people but motivates even more. She even used to motivate Swayze. I’m watching her for motivation myself. The problem is she’s very opinionated but also I see this as being passionate. She truly believe what she’s preaching and is not showing shortcuts and that’s what people hate. These days everyone needs to, let’s call it, “cheat”. Cheat day, cheat meal, just waffle. If someone is eating clean it’s apparently a disorder 😂 I understand we all need acceptance more than ever but I think we also need someone like Freelee who doesn’t aloud compromises. And I feel sorry for all the hate she’s getting because for me it’s hate for being consistent and passionate.

[@lysseast2380]

Regardless of whether you did or didn't body shame her, I'm just confused as to why she's making a big deal about it. Doesn't she have a history of body shaming people...? Didn't seem like she cared about things like that

[@yukiyuukichan5771]

to be fair she only bodyshames people who DON'T eat her diet 🤣🤣🤣 so basically everyone

[@rpm9440]

A career based on body shaming even

[@SilverCatCat13]

Freelee doesn't body shame anyone. Maybe you should educate yourself🤷

[@lysseast2380]

@@SilverCatCat13 lol have you watched her old content? In particular her content with durian rider back in the day? They literally used to walk up to young women and call them fat

[@MySaraMarie]

Honestly she will explore anywhere she can stir up drama for views

[@soharbennett8079]

No there is nothing wrong with you saying “we”, it’s kind of common sense that you don’t mean literally every person apart from freelee. Freelee gives me major narcissism vibes, or at the very least she didn’t resolve some of the narcissistic abuse she suffered from durianrider. Don’t let yourself be gaslit by her, she’s just trying to manipulate people as per usual.

[@corneliahanimann2173]

Exactly, when she says "we" what she really means is her camera team and editors and the whole Unnatural Vegan team, that helps her create her videos... At least that's probably what most youtubers refer to when they say "we" and Swayze just slipped up by borrwing that sentence structure, which is really not a problem, I agree with her on all points, so if she wants to say "we" it's correct because we both have the same opinion on Freelee

[@lexa1850]

I found it outrageous when she suggested it’s Unnatural Vegan-s multiple personality. So apparently calling someone too skinny and suggesting it’s not always healthy, like when people are trying to get pregnant -is a crime, but mental illness jokes are perfectly fine? Can she not hear her self? Or I guess rules don’t apply to her passive-agressive behavior…

[@kukurhuza]

++ also, if we don't take that sentence out of context like freelee does, it's pretty obvious that "we" refers to people who agrees with UV's stance of freelee's diet/her content in general, and there's certainly at least one other person who does

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@kukurhuza love that freelee, of all people, is concerned about UV's mental health... Because this behaviour where she made hundreds of videos critisizing women about their eating habits is not at all an indication for neglected mental health...

[@soharbennett8079]

@@lexa1850 ikr Freelee’s claims herself are simply outrageous and all over the place. Apart from eating fruit, Freelee really does projecting best. It’s actually quite sad how much self awareness she lacks.

[@corneliahanimann2173]

I love the part where freelee calls you delusional. Imagine, of all people on the planet, freelee is going to call you delusional, I'd seriously need time to process that fact lol.

[@sashamiranda9336]

Major projection.

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@sashamiranda9336 it's just so rich to hear it from her, Freelee the woman that thinks a world, in which everyone eats 20 bananas for breakfast would be sustainable, just all 7.8 billion of humans, saving the planet with eating her diet. The way she talks and seems to not relate to other people of her age and environment, makes me conclude that she lives on another planet.

[@peleber9678]

Hey I know you wrote this coment a year ago, but it mad me chuckle, I thought you shoud know lol

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@peleber9678 lmao I forgot about this, but I guess a year later I'm glad someone got a laugh out of it

[@JeremyJenner]

Of course these videos get more views, it's the perfect feud lol. Swayze vs Freelee is the Obi Wan vs Anakin of veganism.

[@Serioslump]

Does that made Durianrider Padme? 😂

[@stinepetersen861]

@@Serioslump maybe Laia. He would look quite fetching with the cinnamon roll hair

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@Serioslump durianboy is undoubtedly jabba the hutt

[@marad786]

@@Serioslump Durianrider is Jar Jar Binks ✌️

[@AlienZizi]

i dont know who durianrider is but im living for the comments piling on him

[@MotherOfOwlbears]

Freelee: "she body shamed me!😭" Also Freelee: "I have more muscle, she just has more fat on top of her muscle. 😏"

[@taliasxx]

No joke. Freelee made her career by “body shaming” people. She and durianrider would literally call ANYONE fat that wasn’t basically, well, skin and bones. No offense to naturally slim people.

[@SuperSarahbop]

Freelee’s diet causes candida. Most people who eat like her reek like a systemic yeast infection

[@amandahugginkiss9065]

Also making fun of mental health saying Swayze has multiple personalities...that was rude

[@tejo29se]

@@taliasxx I remember that era. It was really horryfying.

[@amethyrosemary8296]

This fragile and dying looking woman thinks she has muscle??? 😬 someone needs to help her

[@deanwebber943]

Freelee seems so bitter these days. She is angry at the fact her videos don't get any views. She needs to understand that she will never have the influence she had like 5-10 years ago.

[@nicola6234]

Every couple of years I remember she exists and I'm so surprised she's still making videos 😭 like girl, nobody cares about your insane diet

[@rejeandurette3471]

Freelee basically dropped out a while back and didn't make any videos for a long time, so I don't think she is going for any influence.

[@summerreadingnook]

Freelee: She never responds because she must be quelled by my amazing arguments Also Freelee: She responded because she just wants views I do want to watch your videos about her because her content is dangerous and toxic at times and it needs to be called out. And you don’t get involved in her drama like some other of her critics do, so you should have the views in my opinion.

[@leahjenner6765]

One of the biggest issues I have with Freelee and her “results “ is that she does have breast implants , it is not possible to have such a large chest yet be so lean . And I find this comparable to the way the Kardashians promote diet /workout yet it is mostly down the surgery . Nothing wrong with plastic surgery /implants but Freelee never mentions her implants and shames other women for wearing makeup / having cosmetic procedures when she has implants and even if she regrets them , you really can’t sit there with breast implants and say “makeup “ is unnatural and bad . Plus it’s kind of strange to be so concerned with health that you won’t eat cooked food yet not be concerned about the implications of implants when there are a lot of health issues that can come with them . On a side note if you look up the people from Freelees testimonials most of the people do not follow raw till 4 anymore 🤷‍♀️ most of these testimonials are from 2015/16

[@nothingpersonalhomie]

I feel like Freelee has mentioned her implants before. I remember her saying she regrets them, but since she doesn’t want to go through another surgery will not remove them unless her health suffers from them.

[@LovelyDecrie]

THISSS!!! I had to remove mine due to SEVERE complications. It astounds me knowing that so many speak out about the potential implications of them now, and she still has them. And yet, preaches being 100% natural. 2+2=5

[@leahjenner6765]

@@nothingpersonalhomie A few times , but still her results are not “ natural “ . I’m just being 100% honest here but I don’t think people would say her body looks as amazing as it does if she did not have them , as they give the illusion of being curvy and slim at the same time . Plus she said she got them in 2001 and you are really not supposed to keep the same ones for longer than 10 years so that is a concern 🤷‍♀️ I’ve known many women with implants and they have all renewed or removed them after 8-10 years .

[@leahjenner6765]

@@LovelyDecrie I saw someone once commented to her about breast implant illness and she said “ that’s not a real thing” like WHAT! You won’t even eat cooked food but implants are fine when it is known they cause health issues ! And you will call our other women for being “ fake “ by wearing makeup yet you have breast implants ! Clearly she just likes how they look and that is fine ! But she should just be upfront because she obviously has no intention to take them out .

[@Hedgieonboard]

I've followed her for years and she has talked about them and never hid it. People make decisions in youth and have to live with the consequences years to come. I don't think that doing something in youth, that you later regret, means that anything said and done after should be discredited. If someone does not agree with her diet, that's fine and could open a discussion for the sake of education, but using a past and regretted decision doesn't mean that her diet is unhealthy or harmful.

[@tashabottorf4592]

Freelee is constantly shaming people, that’s all her platform is for 😭

[@MySaraMarie]

!!!!!!

[@maisiebadham2773]

Two wrongs don’t make a right

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@maisiebadham2773 no, but treat people the way you want to be treated...

[@paladin3116]

@@corneliahanimann2173 what are 12? Thats not how the world works. "no, but treat people the way you want to be treated..." i remember hearing that in elementary school lol

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@paladin3116 28. I don't exactly feel like that saying has lost its meaning at my age to be honest. It's not wrong to say that you should be capable of taking the shit you serve people, Freelee has felt comfortable calling Swayze a child abuser before, so I don't understand how she can get overly sensitive when Swayze says she thinks Freelee's body is not going to be everyone's ideal. I have no respect for people that throw around insults and then start crying when someone treats them the same way. I was also responding to someone who said two wrongs don't make a right. Did you not hear that saying in elementary school aswell or are you just picky about whose side you want to attack? Because at my ate I don't really believe in sides anymore, I have become familiar with the ways in which cognitive dissonance works, and I am not interested in a conversation with someone who thinks they're making great points by calling someone a 12 year old from the beginning, I have no respect for that in 2022, that's just all kinds of low.

[@excusemeforawhile2679]

„The plural of anecdote is not data.“ Louder for the people in the back! Love that phrase!

[@themudpit621]

the plural? what? That plural of anecdote is anecdotes. Do you know what plural means? am I missing something here?

[@suzi437]

@@themudpit621 Swayze created this plural in the first few minutes of this video.

[@kiarimarie]

I always took the "we" to just be "those of us who have this opinion", and as you state, you are not alone in your opinion of her diet, something that is a verifiable fact by the existence of other people making videos also saying the same thing.

[@julieblair7472]

Freelee is basically someone who seeks to monetize the validation she needs for her eating disorder, tries to act like her body checks are positive content. Her chosen existence is an act of body shaming, and she is extremely fixated on appearance as a moral issue. Not sorry to say it. Bony and lean are not loaded words, just like fat and heavy or hairy are not loaded. Freelee is also tan.

[@khushisukhi28]

someone who cares about the quality of food they are eating and is clearly getting enough calories hence enough micronutrients as well - does not have a ED .she does not only eat from one food group and eats mostly fruit along with grains, vegetables, and nuts+seeds. that is absolutely a healthy way to eat if you can sustain it long term without gaining excess or losing excess weight and are happy dieting that way. you are not her dietician or her healthcare provider, so don't act like you can diagnose anyone with an ED. i have never seen freelee promote a caloric range that is unhealthy given the quality of food she consumes.

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@khushisukhi28 I don't think you understand eating disorders, because they exist on a spectrum. You can't just boil it all down to, she does not have a caloric deficit, because first of all, you don't know that about her, and second of all, caloric deficit is not the equivalent of an eating disorder, that would suggest that anyone who is trying to lose weight immediately also suffers from an eating disorder. No, what can clearly be said about Freelee's behaviour is that it is very controlled and has similar patterns to OCD. I feel like she would feel uncomfortable and unfullfilled if she ate this way and decided to skip out on her daily bikeride for a day, I feel like she'd immediately try to make up for it by doing some other type of exercise or anything and that behaviour isn't normal, the way she obsesses over the right and wrong foods, the fact alone that she categorises food into good and evil food by labelling them in negative associated terms, says everything about her having at least one type of disorder. That is not normal, in human nature you can slip up or just be lazy for a day with your strict diet, food is not a religion and you should never start identifying with just the food you eat...like, this is behaviour you only get from people that have really nothing else going on, anyone who has a career and lives a fullfilling life won't be this obsessed with food, it's really only people that try to get back the last piece of control in their life start to develop eating disorders where they at least get control over their weight. Freelee doesn't need to be on the verge of death to have an eating disorder, or any other disorder, disorders don't necessarily kill you, they are just going to interfere with your life in a way where you can't interact with peopoe in yout environment like you normally would because your disorder is getting priority, and unfortunatly Freelee also checks that box, do you think she could have a normal 9-5 job like everyone else in her life? No, she can't work for that long because she dedicates so much of her time in preparing her meals and riding her bike, she has not done any work or esucation in the past 10 years because she has dedicated all that time to her disorder! She does everything to be slim, because what does she truly have when she's not slim anymore? This woman has monetized her disorder... It just is what it is.

[@khushisukhi28]

@@corneliahanimann2173 what does having a daily exercise regimen have to do with having an ED. many healthy individuals live very active lifestyles including athletes who need to workout intensely for 5+ hours a day to stay optimally fit. I can also guarantee you that at least 80% of ppl who work 9-5 jobs out of NEED and DESPERATION for financial survival would DO ANYTHING to be in the position of freelee - living off grid and having access to healthy whole foods year round (me included) + having a small circle of friends and a supportive online community. are you saying that someone biles has an ED just because she makes money off an active lifestyle and daily intense training + performance. I too workout 2 hours daily without excuses and would not feel comfortable performing any brain based tasks like working at a desk or talking to someone if I skip out on my daily sessions. You are not her dietician and OCD is a MUCH more serious issue that you should never assume someone has unless you are trained in psychology/therapy.

[@khushisukhi28]

@@corneliahanimann2173 also freelee has made it VERY clear on her channel that she does light cardio and does not recommend intense forms of exercise for most ppl. she also maintains a healthy weight and seems very content with her life. I mean the woman has a video eating 50 BANANAS in one day. If she didn't have an exercise regimen after consuming that many calories - I would be concerned for her health but she clearly is doing something right.

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@khushisukhi28 really, a woman that has several hours of content uploaded on youtube where she is shittalking other womens bodies and comparing it to her own body seems content to you? We seem to have very different ideas on what a content life really is. What makes you think she is doing somwthing right? I don't know how you get to that conclusion, because to me everything about her screams disordered, and we don't personally know her, a lot of people think everything is fine while they are spending a lot of their time convincing themselves that everything is fine. I'm seriously baffled how you could come to the conclusion that she is doing "something" right. What do you mean by that, is there some type of data or result you can point to that suggests things are going well for her? Because this woman has been unemployed for 10+ years, and she isn't raising kids or creating the type of quality content for someone that is making youtubevideos for a living... The quality of her videos seems to even have worsened since she doesn't even film herself when she is doing a reaction video but only does voice-overs now, and her views have really faced a decline, so what exactly is there that makes you think she is doing something right and whatever you consider an example, what makes you think that isn't a facade for social media that she is keeping up while everythingnis crumbling behind that facade?

[@mrubbykat]

I kinda can't believe she's still online and doing the same thing she did back in 2013 🙄

[@BPbruv]

Kinda nostalgic if you think about it haha

[@msaijay1153]

I drank the "date-o-rade" back in 2015. I gained a ton of weight. I got super depressed. I moved on.

[@TheSparkleina]

Please she’s actually so much worse, I saw a couple recent videos and she calls anything that’s not fresh fruit ‘war time food’. Like bread, beans, pasta, oats and stuff

[@mariharrik5987]

@@TheSparkleina Freelee is going crazy with no fat or protein

[@taliasxx]

Freelee is a cult leader for a very distorted view of health. Can’t believe she accuses you of body shaming when she BUILT her career off of calling others fat that weren’t - stating they just need fruit. Not to mention all the health problems (mental and otherwise) that came from partaking in her mess! I was a “victim” of her TOXIC mentality. She’s a good manipulator.

[@taliasxx]

I’m especially talking about past Freelee. Maybe she’s healthier now I don’t watch her, but yes. My view of Freelee is a very toxic and unhealthy one.

[@ThingsYoudontwanttohear]

It is really a shame that Freelee has this "this is the way" mentality and puts so much emphasis on anecdotal evidence. Now many people see her as a pseudo-scientific cult leader and she gives anti-vegans ammunition against veganism. Instead she could have been evidence that one can be healthy on several types of vegan diets and that veganism is not a cult, but just a bunch of people that want to do less harm to animals by minimising their consumption of animal products.

[@aubrianna8881]

yep watching her content prolonged my ed for sure. i went from restricting/purging to orthorexia and thought i was healed.

[@nastjaangelova3671]

She basically lives in a parallel world and has no ability of self reflection

[@lizk2378]

The plural of anecdote is not data. I am using this quote forever more. Also just as a sidenote, bloodwork can be completely normal and you can be not healthy. I had non alcoholic steatohepatitis from a genetic disorder (did not know it at the time), my bloodwork was perfect (liver enzymes were completely in range). Only found on a scan for an unrelated condition. Different diets for everyone based on their needs.

[@porchturds8149]

cringe comment

[@rockroad4798]

Swayzees reaction to the fart noise was one of my highlights of this week

[@lisatowan4536]

She seems to be okay pointing out everyone else's perceived flaws, but doesn't like it if anyone says anything about her, even if it's not meant in a negative way. To your point about cancer, I couldn't agree more! If I started out where Freelee did, I would be dead! I lost 60 pounds in a few months (17 of it in 8 days). Another time, I lost 11% of my body weight in 3 weeks. What works for her (in her eyes) doesn't work for everyone. We all have different nutritional needs and challenges.

[@arcturianoracle784]

“Doesn’t like it” where did she say she doesn’t like it? She was simply pointing out that Swayze has said body shaming is wrong but has no problem doing it to Freelee.

[@mariharrik5987]

@@arcturianoracle784 how is Swayze body shaming and maybe Freelee deserves body shaming for doing it to others for so long

[@vishnupriya4551]

You look like a mix of Natalie Portman and Kat Dennings. I Love your content! Thank for being so informative and kind!!

[@blackrosenuk]

"Partner doesn't tell me to do shit!" 🎤 drop

[@FrivolousGirl]

I'm kind of jealous of your platonic longterm-relationship with Freelee. Like you guys go waaay back... it's kind of cute how you only communicate via video responses. 🥺

[@tao_of_mary]

i just think that if freelee only cared about the animals she would support any type of vegan diet?? if it works for people?? like why not celebrate anyone making more plant based choices, whether they are fruit based or not? i know she thinks fruit based will support you being long-term...but that's not the case for everyone. anecdotal but i have been vegan for 12 years not on fruit and i have 0 cravings, have no desire to eat non-vegan, and am very connected to my personal ethics regarding animals.

[@bleu.honey88]

Oh Swayze, your so sweet. But don't apologize! You did nothing wrong. I agree with you, as do many others, you can absolutely say "we" and not be manipulative lol.

[@diyashinh]

Swayze is hypocritical and should apologize

[@notoriousj_]

Swayze did body shame tho even after saying its wrong

[@mariharrik5987]

@@diyashinh no shut up bot

[@mariharrik5987]

@@notoriousj_ no she didn't and what about Freelee body shaming others

[@TC-hd8uq]

I'm part of your "we"

[@TrishaMaybe]

It disgusts me that she thinks her before body is something to look at as negative. The fact that she takes what she looks like now as proof of benefit to her diet is gross.

[@samiam2088]

"This is the weight my body naturally settles at..." wait WHAT? Her whole point is "eat like me to look like me" if this is her her god given weight then there is NO POINT to following her diet for similar results. I have a body type similar to Freelee. I am 5'10" and 135 pounds naturally (177 cm and 60 kg) and I am NOT a vegan, I eat high fat, high protein not for any particular point but because I am athletic like crazy and I am just trying to meet a baseline of caloric needs. I could easily just say nonsense like "eat bacon and eggs like me and you will have my body type."

[@jackiesesthetics88]

She passive aggressively calls you fat in the video where she’s upset about being “body shamed”. Says “she’s been trying to get lean for years”, or “she just has fat covering her arms”. Lol. Freelee is just the worst. I can’t.

[@mimifaartje4084]

Yes!

[@yagurl_]

She literally says something about you using we and them says "we need to think for ourselves" 🤣

[@Asshat237]

Being as lean as she is IS NOT HEALTHY. Unless you are a professional athlete and eating a ton, you can't look like that without being low on calories.

[@camila_alvarez22]

Freelee: “she body shamed me.” Also her: *body shames almost every person she makes a video about bc they’re not vegan 😭

[@sparhkie]

I’m glad you’re calling her out. The last couple of years she has clearly spiralled into a serious eating disorder and developed other strange aversions and ideas. She says eating seeds and oats is like eating the plant’s babies and is unnatural, and that starches are polluting and wartime foods. She used to rag on purist raw vegans clearly having an ED and now she’s one of them. Her videos are just informercials interjected with body shaming and body checking. Plus all those testimonials are from years ago. It must be so exhausting spending every waking moment worried about food and your body to the point it becomes your whole identity.

[@lillyelis3588]

i just watched the first video that came upby free bc i didnt know her and she told me to eat 10 bananas a day - who in the world eats 10 bananas a day?? who can eat 10 bananas a day??? im confused

[@amethyrosemary8296]

She shows of her extremly thin body to convince you to follow her diet and when you say you are not interested in her results and dont want to Look like her it is insulting? Why did she show her body in a response to your diet and thought you might want to change your diet to look more like her? Something wrong with your body? 🤔 Super confusing

[@amethyrosemary8296]

I also stand by my comment. Her results are the only thing that ever convinved people to listen to her and her results are NOT good 🤷‍♀️ why do you use pictures of her that are 7 years old in all of your response vidoes? She was clearly underweight 7 years ago and has lost a lot of weight. Without her implants she would look almost like Eugenia Cooney 😬 why are we lying to people in the name of body positivity? You know she has no period and you are lying if you pretend you dont notice how sick and malnourished she looks. Why

[@amethyrosemary8296]

Just saw you actually used a recent picture this time. Now look at this person and tell me she does not need to be hospitalized immediatly .

[@leahjenner6765]

@@amethyrosemary8296 Totally agree , she has lost so much weight compared to 2015-16, there was a picture of her I think she posted it on her crotchet Instagram and she was holding up a watermelon bag she made and I was completely shocked at her arms 😮 she looks like Eugenia Cooney . Without her implants no one would be looking at her and saying she looks amazing , it’s really sad because she obviously has an eating disorder and needs help .

[@amethyrosemary8296]

@@leahjenner6765 yes! I think I even asked her under that post if she's okay because it looks like she lost a lot of weight and she responded its just the angle...

[@leahjenner6765]

@@amethyrosemary8296 I saw that comment 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@amandahugginkiss9065]

"Poopy!" 🤣😂🤣😂 That was the most 3 yr old answer I've ever heard. That's it, I'm saying poopy instead of bye to people now Poopy Swayze!

[@rena6895]

Shame never works, it shuts down the part of the brain that promotes growth and change. As a 58 year old ex smoker. Shame had NOTHING to do with my will to quit. Education on the actual harm smoking caused the body and brain helped me quit smoking. It was no longer glamorized in ads and I watched enough people suffer with COPD to want to quit. Almost every ex-smoker will tell you the same. With that said; most of your video was kind and compassionate. I do agree with your analysis that promoting “thin is in” is a dangerous expectation to put on young ladies. The goal should always be health. I have a small frame at 5’1 a family member two years younger, at 5’10 wanted my shape. Not realizing I envied her model height & figure. We all need to rock what we got!

[@ambersummer2685]

Please tell my mom this lol. Whenever I’m open and vulnerable with her, it ends with me feeling anxious and confused

[@anasky00]

She mentions her body as "proof" the diet is good, and you're bodyshaming her?!?

[@CazAvery]

Have a free testimonial - I started watching you a few years ago just because 'it was nice to see a more rational approach' and I was aiming to reduce my meat intake. I then introduced my partner to these videos. Since then they went off and I did a lot of research and I mostly stayed here and listened. We are now vegetarian all the time and are transitioning into full time vegan (currently in the 'try every vegan product to see what we like and can make part of our normal eating habits' stage). Although, as a testimonial goes... we're not doing it for health or body reasons, we're doing it because the more we watched your and other other vegan stuff the more we realised that we agreed and couldn't keep up the disconnect between our beliefs on animal rights (and the environment) and our eating habits. We have yet to mention it to our families, who are likely going to take it poorly... My family were annoyed we even went veggie. But it is what it is. There you go, some 'data' for people who consider anecdotes data.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Awesome! 🥰 I used to follow Freelee, but I love how Unnatural Vegan is more logical and understands not every diet works for everyone. That's the best way for more people to find the vegan diet that's best for us, by trying different things and seeing what works best and what we like best. Also Freelee's low-sodium made me dizzy and vertiginous and I even fainted once and fell down some stairs 😱 (fortunately they were carpeted and I wasn't seriously hurt). I'm predominant Polynesian and Japanese, and my doctor says I actually need higher salt than the USDA recommends, and much higher than someone whose ancestors lived inland and didn't have much salt. It just goes to show how different we all are.

[@mariharrik5987]

so veganism is not for health

[@CazAvery]

@@mariharrik5987 I'm sure it can be, but in our case no - it's for ethical reasons

[@harhccha]

"The plural of anecdote is not data" loved that line 8:56 hahahahahaha

[@slam5798]

Do I have a concussion or has Freelee body shamed people?? I seem to recall her doing that to numerous people in the past and almost seeming to really enjoy doing it. Especially when she was dating that psycho cyclist.

[@amandarobbins2530]

I remember coming across freelee on KZbin when I was a teenager and i remember her whole schtick just being videos where she is ripping apart peoples looks and bodies and basically roasting them and bragging about her own body.

[@yiggly395]

Off topic, but what lipstick are you wearing? The colour looks really good on you!

[@weewooweewoo906]

Always respect how reasonable you are. I really hate Freelee's ways of occasionally misrepresenting/twisting your words like with the partner comment. Eugh. You handled that well.

[@hannahmitchell87]

I *knew* your comment about us not caring about her results would cut deep!! 😂 Imo you absolutely did not body shame her. At all. Edit: Just got to the 'boney' bit...I can see how it might be an offesnsive descriptor tbh but credit to you for apologising & clarifying what you meant. I hope I'm wrong but I reckon it's unlikely you'd receive the same in return

[@daria_gl]

It was not body shaming. Saying that someone's ideal body type is not ideal to you is just a personal preference to which you are fully entitled. Not only that, but it is the objective truth that having a low BMI and being lean is actually not healthy for anyone, especially for women. So I personally don't think you have anything to apologise for.

[@lizakushnir]

Wow she just has no social skills?! It is painful to watch actually how she like just hears things that you never even said? How do you not feel like you are wasting your time engaging in conversations with her?

[@tillydavvers]

Feel free to use 'we' in this context because I also could not give a shit

[@shelleyjones4146]

So weird that Freelee says she doesn't know how to convince you when she literally did for a while there and it didn't work for you, but she just flat out denies/invalidates that whole experience.

[@lilann6120]

I also like it to be very lean but muscular too, but that doesnt mean this would be healthy… i just like that look but i think it s not very healthy for any woman to be that lean…

[@Jord73]

‘The plural of anecdote is not data.’ I’m going to remember that one.

[@blueicebeat]

Love how swayzes always wearing the walking chemical experiment shirt for every freelee video

[@jessicakalfaian851]

Thank you! I love your channel

[@Karltonx]

And the way she’s going off on Hannah too now when initially she made videos calling her fat, now Hannah’s lost all this weight and she’s gotta try to bring her down again 🤦‍♂️

[@abberdailmarie4887]

I’m dying at 8:57 I had to rewatch so many times. My rib literally cracked. Swayze is the gold standard for comedy

[@LeatherPretzel]

"The plural of anecdote is not data" - wow, that's powerful

[@barborasvobodova3760]

I love the way you keep your cool and do not take it personally. You go girl. :)

[@HaleySmith]

Please she literally said you have 'puppy fat'

[@corneliahanimann2173]

To be fair, you do (or used to) promote lentils a lot in your videos, and it did make me buy pasta that is made from lentils. They were great btw.

[@BrammetjeOoms]

Freelee: She body shamed me! Also Freelee: Maybe she is referring to her multiple personalities. Freelee always talks down to you and others in the most revolting ways by not only just mistepresenting you, but also invalidating other actual health issues and disorders that people deal with. It sucks me to see her make such hurtful comments. The fact that you can sit there without losing your marbles is amazing to me. I couldn't have uttered any apology after all the things she said about you in this video.

[@Sandra-pz8mu]

This comment sums up how I feel so bad !

[@Krriikkis]

Love how Freelee says you bodyshame her when she has done countless of videos criticizing how others eat and, maybe not directly but at least implying, that their bodies would be better (=leaner) if they ate like Freelee. Ofc that’s not an excuse to say nasty things abt Freelee’s body either but i don’t think you even did that.

[@kara8713]

Im curious…..freelee calls you out for body shaming but legitimately insults you on a few front from the first 5 min. A big one is saying you have multiple personalities. Just wow

[@cristallikethechampagne8243]

Haven’t watched just yet (at work) so I’m responding to the title….Even if you did, Freelee built her entire platform off of shaming, ridiculing, and body shaming hundreds of people. Screw her feelings

[@MichelleReacts94]

in my opinion freelee looks skinnier than 2015 i do not hate freelee but i noticed that when she started do the whole eat like a frugivore she looked skinnier in the face sharp shoulders poking shoulder blades i think for woman 21 bmi is ideal where you are lean but not bony have some fat on for cushioning and nothing is looks sharp and bony. on to the point where freelee said she has more muscle her being at such a low body fat means she cant build muscle maybe strength but not muscle

[@quel3301]

I get my bloodwork once a year when I go to my primary. It probably is not necessary as a 22 year old, but I feel like if there was any problem that were to arise like too high of cholesterol, low platelets, an overactive or underactive thyroid or low ferratin/hemoglobin its better to get one once a year so you can intervene sooner.

[@kaylaharrop7639]

Whats wild is, as someone who specialized in GI health 3 years ago, I know exactly why she feels better just eating plants (microbiome diversity) but she STILL does not after 15 YEARS. She has done no research, put in no effort, whatsoever to educate herself why perhaps this way of life is beneficial and actually have evidence to support her claims instead of just childishly running around essentially saying "my diet is superior because I look better/thinner than you". Plant diversity is the strongest causal link to over all health and reduction of all cause mortality. The MORE plants, the more diverse, the better your health. Cooking your food provides a different type of fiber (prebiotic/food for gut bacteria) than eating it raw. So cooked and raw are both essential. Also side note - not having a period is still very unhealthy!

[@corneliahanimann2173]

May I ask what "Gl" stands for?

[@kaylaharrop7639]

@@corneliahanimann2173 Gastrointestinal

[@corneliahanimann2173]

@@kaylaharrop7639 oh thank you!

[@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty]

I WILL SAY shaming didn't solve smoking, hence why vaping took over depite it being the exact same action. It's freely available medical education that helps. Big tobacco actually supported the ban of commercials on television for example. Why?? Marketing is how you sell shit, so why??? Because a law was passed that for every so many tobacco ads you had to play even MORE anti-smoking infomercials and PSAs. Most people won't say they don't smoke because it makes you look stupid or uncool or ugly... *They say they don't want cancer.* Shaming doesn't really work for issues of addict like that, informing people of the health effects DOES however! Same thing with veganism, people shut out things they don't like and animal abuse is one of those things. You face less censorship and pushback when you make it about eating healthy. Because it's less graphic and less emotional while stating more factual medical information. Shame doesn't really work for anything but making people hate themselves. Think of every embarrassing memory that pops in your head right before bed, have those improved your moral character??? Has being tormented by previously calling a teacher mom made you a healthier person??? *No.* You feel shame, but that's it. You're not less likely to make that mistake again, you're just miserable at 12 am while trying to sleep for work in the morning. If you want good change, education ALWAYS helps. People make decisions based on the information we have and we ARE an intelligent species. We generally make better decisions when educated because we like better outcomes. So tell people how to avoid bad outcomes. Because people react to shame differently and there are PLENTY of people who will intentionally do something you shamed them for BECAUSE you shamed them. Others will get trapped in cycles of self-hatred. And even more will just try and not think about it to protect their mental health. Education over shame EVERY time.

[@ItsAnOldCroneLife]

You can't win with Freelee because Freelee is a narcissist and nobody wins with a narcissist. They play dirty and twist everything to satisfy their fragile little egos. She's obviously gaslighting, projecting, and making pot-shots at you because you made the grave error of hurting her fragile little ego.

[@ambersummer2685]

I’m honestly glad she discontinued her pregnancy. That poor child would go through hell, especially if they grew up to disagree with her.

[@moonlightmelodiesasmr3766]

It’s just crazy how she accuses you of being manipulative when like 90% of her content is manipulative. She gaslights she minimizes she dismisses she deflects, really classic manipulation techniques. So if anything she was projecting onto you.

[@WindowsXPFrog]

“We” you clearly meant people criticising her diet lol it’s not that hard to figure out what you meant

[@drewleamon6861]

The reason I love when you review Freelee is because I’m soooo curious about what she posts but I don’t want to give her a view! So I love when you post about her because I get to hear your thoughts, and I get to see Freelee’s crazy thoughts without giving her money! Win win

[@hannahc2939]

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on "baby led weaning" it is pretty much standard practice in the UK but I know it is a bit controversial in the US - I know you did traditional puree weaning with your first two so would you consider BLW with this baby? Also did you expose your first two to egg and dairy to check for allergens? What if they accidentally had egg or dairy later in life and they had a reaction to it because they didn't know they had the allergy?

[@BigHead69420p]

She gets terrible views on every video. Not sure why she’s trying to make it a pissing contest because she’s all around irrelevant. 🥰😋

[@marianalikethetrench]

I found raw til 4 because of freelee so she's relevant to me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@corneliahanimann2173]

To be fair, I hardly watch Swayze's videos anymore, because I overall moved away from vegan youtube and this toxic phase from my life. But pissing all over Freelee's arrogant misguided approach to diet is still great in 2022.

[@Nathouuuutheone]

@@marianalikethetrench you say that like raw till 4 is a good thing... She might be relevant to misinformed people, and to people who've been through periods of misinformation, but she's not relevant to the actual growing discussions surrounding veganism and health. She's stuck in an ignorant subsection of the topic.

[@marianalikethetrench]

@@Nathouuuutheone I appreciate your eagerness to insult me, but raw till 4 IS a good thing for ME. :)

[@Nathouuuutheone]

@@marianalikethetrench have you listened to ANYTHING from this channel?? Also, I didn't insult you. If you feel insulted by the fact that raw till 4 is bad and that the whole industry is heavily reliant on misinformation and ignorance, you need to rethink your identity because you clearly can't tell the difference between your person and your pseudoscientific diet.

[@summerreadingnook]

I commented this on your other video, but the way she tried to body shame you, putting up a screenshot of you in the middle of talking in comparison with a video of her dancing in her bikini, she is one to talk 🤦‍♀️

[@jenniferjuneau7329]

Freelee plays the same two people who tried Raw till 4, probably the only two people in the world. Everyone else quit that ridiculous starvation diet.

[@leahjenner6765]

Lmao she does it’s always the same testimonials from like 2015

[@teainortakoy]

Swayze, sometimes I think you are too kind, considerate and conscientious to be on youtube but I'm very grateful that you are. I am also on the bio-engineered drug diet (or whatever Freelee called it) and I have great results - full of energy post my morning coffee! ☕❤

[@arcturianoracle784]

“Full of energy” @ coffee 🤣😂 lmao. I drink coffee but no. It literally doesn’t give you energy. It is a stimulant. Feeling energized and feeling caffeinated are two very different feelings. Not being aware of that says a lot.

[@teainortakoy]

@@arcturianoracle784 there's a huge lot of things that I'm not aware of, its part of being human. Besides, its just one of those things people say in everyday life.

[@MamaGG16]

All free lee does is body shame and put other down for what they eat 😂 she lives a sad life lmao

[@hbk2377]

Freelee is so delusional it’s hard to believe that she’s an actual person and not just an elaborate character created for clout lmfao

[@MrKry]

I love the not-so-subtle shade in the choice of the t-shirt 😆But really, how can Freelee play the victim card after she's been accusing Swayze of being a drug addict for ages?? I'm so here for this drama, and I'm happy that these responses keep coming out as I can follow it without having to give views to Freelee

[@Poofwaah]

Ok , so mentioning fat covering someone's muscles is called fact if thats the case and mentioning someone showing more bone due to a diet that has made them extremely lean is called fact. Fact is not shameful or shame or shaming, its just a fact , if the truth about this fact bothers you then its a personal issue , means that its probably then taken as criticism and then makes you feel shame , if you feel shame due to fact , then it is a personal thing you feel personally, up to you how you deal with it really. I do not think its body shaming at all. Someone sure as hell could shame me for being overweight hell yeah , but it is also a fact and it would make me feel bad cos its the truth . Its legit the truth. I have struggled with weight now for 10 years + since my first child . Mainly due to low self esteem and bad diet choices but that is the fact of how i got here pretty much. People forget that a fact is a fact and how you respond to a fact being called out or mentioned or stated is then a personal feeling in response.

[@davidlk9103]

Here we go again. I wonder what Leanne's (Freelee) response video will be like?

[@Shy-xm4kn]

Freelee constantly shames other people for all aspects of their life. She can’t cry wolf when she’s one herself. If she was sweet & kind to others and was just living her fruitarian life in a peaceful non attacking way yes it would be uncalled for on your part. But I’ve watched her channel and she is shady AF often.

[@user-hw9lm8jv7o]

28:06 your kid’s “Yeah!” Made my day😭😭😭✨✨

[@Aceofwolves]

If a carnivore diet was promoted the way Freelee promotes her diet....you know she'd have a problem with it.

[@marzettik]

I’ll be part of your royal “we”, lol. I’m just done with Freelee, she’s a bully at this point. She’s turning into the Regina George of this lifestyle.

[@catherinecase1142]

Whenever I heard a little squeak from your toddler, I thought my kiddo was waking up from their nap 😆

[@Mamaslittleblog]

These videos have been going back and forth for almost a decade… are you guys secretly friends?

[@zachzackzak]

The "we" thing is interesting. When academically writing papers or arguments you're taught to use "we" because you represent the argument and the information rather than you yourself. Plus, when you're a commentator I think it might be a grey area whether you're speaking from just your point of view or from the point of view of you and your followers who presumably agree with you.

[@hbk2377]

Beige diet? Vegetables, smoothies, assorted beans and proteins, starches, and seasonings are beige? She acts like you promote eating wonderbread, meat & potatoes all day???

[@deannam.5098]

I like the sticker art on the wall behind you, it's more pleasing than the plain white wall. 👍

[@mitragolab8905]

she responded to this video too..this woman really is quite salty. or just lacks content ideas. what does this have to do with veganism lol

[@Savannah-Caroline]

She literally body shames people herself, hypocrite

[@apostrophe.t]

I watch both your channels, and frankly I have no idea why she keeps coming for you. Isn't her goal to encourage people to become vegan? So what if you do it differently than she does...? I'm not trying to snark; I have always been puzzled by this.

[@kuhtreen]

I imagine many of us can give a similar testimony about awesome you are! Thank you for everything you do! ✨🤙🏽🔥💛

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

I just don't buy the "body shaming" crisis people throw around. That does not mean I think we should indiscriminately shame people over their physical appearance, but the word "shame" is grossly overused. Saying someone is "overweight" or "boney" is not body shaming, it's an objective statement in many cases. Sure, it may be colored with some personal opinion or judgement, but grow up, human beings express opinions, and every opinion is going to offend SOMEONE. The pendulum has swung WAY too far into being overly sensitive and having people more interested in signaling how virtuous they are than being genuine. Good for you for not bending the knee on this. It's fair to apologize for unintentionally causing hurt, but you don't need to admit being "wrong" in doing so. Intention matters.