Did I Copy this Knife? Civivi Sendy vs. Swiss Tech Würdig

[@snakemaster7]

Hey Ben! I was one of the guys that said it looked like a Würdigg. I am sorry if I came across as an asshole. I really liked this video and you have a new subscriber. I think at the time, the Swiss Tech was all the rage, so it was hard not to point out the obvious. But you have educated me on the situation and I look forward to anything else you are involved in.

[@benbanters]

Ha! No harm, no foul. It was a fantastic conversation to start. I think DCA nailed it: no physical context to really compare so things look similar online.

[@FrankToThePoint]

Swisstech was never "all the rage"

[@jimmiecrowe520]

Poor George, "turning a steer into a bull" would be quite impressive with a Sendy! ; )

[@benbanters]

That knife has wiiiild, restorative power. 🐂😉

[@TheDangerBrain]

I have both knives and admittedly they have similar profiles but that’s where it ends. The Wurdig is definitely a steal at the price point but it is absolutely not the same knife. There are differences in materials and blade deployment but I think the biggest difference is the intention behind each knife. I don’t know the intent behind the Wurdig because there isn’t a story behind it. What the Sendy has is purpose built design. We learned that in the Cedar video. There is a lot of inspiration and back story associated with the knife and that plays a big part in the function and the purpose of the knife. To me the Sendy feels like a modern take on an old school knife. Something to whittle wood with or cut apple slices in front of the camp fire. This is not a knife that was designed to slice open Amazon boxes. Intention is everything and I firmly believe this knife was designed out of passion and love.

[@DisStick]

I own a Wurdig and I love it. I really go hard on my knives because I see them as tools and find it hard to justify spending 100's on something designed to live a hard life. The Wurdig has some premium look and feel and was easy to buy. Great content as always Ben.

[@benbanters]

Yessss! The Wurdig is a heck of a knife for the price.

[@devilishirv]

i have the one with aluminum/carbon fiber handles as well got noting but love for swiss tech, id choose those over a bug out all day

[@erasmus42]

5:00 - Boker LRF, by Kansei Matsuno! (Love my Baby Banter, by the way!)

[@Shiroiokami947]

Ben, I love your Sendy design. It has such a nice simplistic blade design with a utilitarian appearance, non- threatening. You could pull the Sendy out, and no one would blink about it. As for your knife, resembling the Swiss tech, knife blade designs always had slight similarities, but what differentiates a knife are the subtleties of the blade design , blade materials, and the craftsmanship. Overall, a beautiful, simplistic knife.

[@welcometothefreeworld]

Oh man, original KB crew together for a moment in time...

[@welcometothefreeworld]

Also, it's crazy that the brand is called Swiss Tech but they are not from Switzerland... Also also, how many people could have possibly bought this knife from Wally World to have even attempted to make this far fetched connection... I work in the fishing industry. This kind of claim happens all the time between people and companies who make hard bates/lures. It's kind of silly.

[@benbanters]

@@welcometothefreeworld I worked on a brand for a minute called Swiss Safe- zero connection to Switzerland. It’s definitely trading on a reputation. Fun to hear about fishing. Good stuff.

[@bernielomax4702]

Come on now. When I first saw the Sendy I immediately thought of the Wurdig. Are they identical? No. Are they similar? Of course. Are they similar enough that you could convince someone they were the same brand and perhaps even part of the same line? Absolutely. Pretending that’s not the case is ridiculous. I’m certain it’s not intentional. It’s a coincidence which isn’t a big deal. No need to act like you’re completely baffled by people’s observations of similarities.

[@ergezinger]

Definitely not the same knife. P.S. looking forward to the Sendy 2 with Scissors.

[@wyomingadventures]

Yes, that would be awesome.

[@froggergoat]

I have the wurdig and now I want your knife. The search for the perfect knife never ends.

[@jeckert547]

Didn’t you run into a similar thing when people said the Knafs Lander looked a lot like… name 10 knives, idk. It’s all a matter of perspective. How deeply one looks at them. I have 2 Spydercos, a Benchmade, and a Civivi. To my fiancée they might as well all the same object. But to me they’re different permutations of a never ending design challenge: to make the perfect knife. And almost any “this or that” debate about cutting instruments is best answered by “both!”

[@benbanters]

The “both” mentality. I love it.

[@Garyg28]

Great video,, maybe it’s just me Ben but you could Frankenstein them both together and call it the SENDIG 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@benbanters]

Sending a collaboration pitch email now... 🤣

[@samblevins1708]

Missed out on a sendy when it launched. So happy it's in stock (as of this.) IN cart. Boom.

[@benbanters]

Yesssss. Get it.

[@noverman]

similar but different for sure

[@shootitorcallchucknorris]

It’s crazy seeing a second knife of Ben’s being called out like this😅 first the lander ‘looks like’ the dozier and now this, it’s hilarious

[@samlee458]

whoa! Austin from BHQ! 😅

[@MouseCIick]

Ben, you really know how to design knives. After doing research of knives im interested in collecting, they are mostly design by you. Simple, classic, and timeless designs.

[@tennesseesmoky9012]

I have two of the Swiss Tech Wurdig knives. One is in green micarta, the other is in black G10. Designed to be slim in the pocket, fast opening, sharp enough to cut and slice. Functional design with solid components. Value-priced so it makes an excellent everyday carry knife. That CIVIVI Sendy is one nice looking knife. I’ve got to get my hands on one soon to do my own comparison with the Wurdig. Interesting conversation about knife design trends coming full circle.

[@Nick_The_Knife]

There are so many great knives out there, so many others that are almost great, but miss the mark in some way. We should (as consumers and sometimes as designers) be students of the products we consume. I think critically about most knives I buy, and I buy too many. Sometimes they inspire me to pull out a pencil and try to fix those shortcomings in a knife doodle. Why not take inspiration from what you think is great and modify it to be a better thing? It is hard to do much that hasn't been done before, but you can often be better than what already is. Fun fact- Swiss Tech started out In Mentor, OH, my home town and I have several of their original tools. I also have a Wurdig which is not the same as a Sendy, but is a decent knife for the price and a nice design, although they should have knurled the thumb disk... I had it months before I got my Sendy and didn't think about it until I saw someone say they looked the same. Similar in some ways, but different in more.

[@DorminMonro]

I really think the similar color schemes is the main thing tripping people up here. There are only so many blade shapes and shades of green to go around and especially to people who arent as lost in the sauce of the knife world as some of us, those common factors are going to stand out. As evidenced in the video, when knife people get it in their hands, the differences are easily apparent, and even if they are overtly similar does it matter? How many knife companies have their own version of a Bugout? Knives are all about preferences and personalization in my opinion, and those small differences in design can make huge differences in function.

[@benbanters]

I agree. I think it was color first, lines, and haste in making mental connections between known and unknown.

[@Lostin2024]

Just watched the video and this was totally fascinating dive into how designs come to life. Honestly, I think you should do a collab with Swiss Tech for an ultra budget model. I think that would be beneficial for all parties involved.

[@nicolase.2997]

I like the concept of mixing ideas from different knifes!! Ben you should design a fixed blade version of the Lumi, similar to Mora eldris but finner and with longer blade.. I think both are amazing designs, and it would be great to have a small fixed blade that is also a great slicer, able to do anything but easier to clean and maintain than a folder.

[@daryldemarsico7054]

Ben, your design for the Sendy has an overall better fit and finish than the Swisstech knife does for sure and the look you came up with looks so much more beautiful

[@1StepTooFar]

I think appearance is only one aspect of knife comparison. The form can be very similar, but if the intended function is different then the knife is different. It’s a different use case and therefore a different tool. Check out the architect Louis Sullivan’s quote “Form ever follows function, and this is the law. Where function does not change, form does not change.” The rest of the quote is beautiful, I hope you check it out.

[@JakJakYee]

Hey Ben, it was cool meeting and trading with you at Blade Texas (you may or may not remember). What are you doing in Fort Worth? Also, my mom thinks you should make knife bookmarks 📚 and I agree.. Bye 👋

[@benbanters]

Tell your mom that's a great idea. I definitely remember trading. Thanks for the fun! We filmed this during Blade Texas-- took me a minute to release it.

[@JakJakYee]

@@benbantersI'll tell her that 👍 I'll cya at Blade West

[@sidoirm]

4:40 ol boy thought he was in trouble for a sec

[@wyomingadventures]

Lady outdoors person. I love the Sendy. It's one of my favorite EDC's. The tweezers are great.

[@SurvivingtheDaily]

I think the biggest takeaway from what you have said there are no new ideas in the knife world. People get their underwear in bunches when they see what they think is a knockoff or a copy.

[@Redacted-Information]

hey Ben did you used make videos for BLADE HQ?

[@benbanters]

Yes indeed! Lots of videos. I design knives and own Knafs now. Thanks for following along.

[@drheckle]

Having spent time looking at design and utility patents... its such small degrees of difference and really can be convoluted... keep making nice knives!!!

[@boringoldman]

I have both. The sendy is legit a knife I carry a LOT. The swissT one is okay, but I don’t carry it. It is like a fake Rolex, cool for a couple minutes but doesn’t REALLY measure up

[@zinjhor2718]

The OG Knife Banters!!!

[@alexkarns8715]

Own a wurdig and then saw the Sendy and said “ I want that” so I now I own both.

[@1234567890sunshine]

It would be funny to find out that Civivi and Swiss Tech are manufactured in the same factory

[@raymondsadowski6080]

I love my Sendy! Thanks!!

[@Gtflybmx75]

I’ve had the Swiss tech wurdig for a year love it and the sendy love it it’s still in my wishlist

[@jayr526]

I have yours, but not the other one. They are similar but not the same. I like to Sendy very much

[@hobowithashotgun48]

The main similarity is the color of the scales. Literally everything else is very different. I see the Sendy as a more blade focused swiss army knife more than anything else.

[@stephenbarabas6286]

Swiss tech has been around forever (at least i always remember in my 51 years) seeing their bags and backpacks in Walmart. And anyone who thinks the Sendy looks like that swiss tech knife seriously needs new eyes... P.s. Turning a steer into a bull.... George needs to stop with thinking hes smart unless hes putting testicles back in

[@Moontrak]

Make exactly design as sandy but with blade and sicssor in 84 mm format and you will have a winner. Victorinox dont get that anymore 😉

[@rays5163]

I bought two wurdigs after watching this. Not out of spite or anything i was already planning on buying one and this was one of the videos i watched as research. And then i wanted both colors.

[@rays5163]

The sendy looks great too by the way im really into how you have wood handle options.

[@SMarcey]

I cant put my finger on it but I just dont love how many germans there are at a knife show. Its just a feeling that I cant quite put into words.

[@benbanters]

Ha! I love the Germans. They are dear friends and amazing humans. I’m excited to visit them in September in Germany.

Those are obviously not the same knife, byt why aren't we talking about Swiss Tech Gerundet? It was my first thought when I saw Sendy.

[@cintage]

The Sendy does not look like that „Würdig“ at all. Definitely not.

[@troygilliland9485]

I love my Wurdig, but I covet a Sendy and will add one soon

[@1StepTooFar]

Wurdig looks similar to Skyline from Kershaw, maybe?

[@fexy01]

I have two of the Sendys, and on Swiss Tech Würdig. Not a copy. It's not really even close.

[@stevewhite51]

Not a great video. Two guys in a high rise apartment on a weird loveseat and fake bear skin rug. Don’t think these are the guys to take knife options from.

[@DylanLey]

Great video!

[@chadslagle1662]

Bought the Swisstech for my kid and it is a awesome great value knife. But to some degree all knives are copies. Like all pop songs are G,C, D chords.

[@benbanters]

Don’t forget the occasional E in the chords, eh? 😉

[@stuartb9194]

Leathaby championed Architecture that was 'one thousand man deep', suggesting it was a collective and cultural evolution rather than any individual achievement. I see that richness in your work too. It's cool.

[@benbanters]

Yesssss. I’ve never heard that saying, but that rings super true. Thanks for sharing.

[@stuartb9194]

@@benbanters back in the Arts and Crafts days of Ruskin and Wlliam Morris. Craft and function over ego.

[@Melkorify]

Same knife, one with tweezers

[@benbanters]

Don't forget the toothpick! ;)

[@rays5163]

Am I I the only one that always loses the toothpick and tweezers? I always thought the whole pressure fit thing was awful especially on the models you stick on your keys

[@theknifepub]

09:24 Model !

[@rkelly5803]

Those knives look nothing alike. Knife nerds need to chill.

[@OreoDave]

Love Ben 👍💜👍

[@mrchiefbs]

You didn't have to defend yourself Ben. The swisstek is junk and my girlfriend carries the Sendy every day.

[@benbanters]

Thanks! I like defending concepts-- not myself, per se, but I like defending design and how it works. I'm glad your girlfriend likes the Sendy! Thanks for the support.

[@akapabs108]

Holy shit.. that's Austin! Talk about old school BHQ! Did all you guys go to grade school together.. did your moms make you all be friends??

[@benbanters]

Austin is the man! I wish our moms made us be friends. 🤣 We’ve stayed friends since the BHQ days. Now we work together at Knafs.

[@akapabs108]

@@benbanters Just imagine a grade school bus with little Ben, Austin, Zac, Jaime and Kurt on it.. that would have been a hoot! Who would have had the coolest Trapper Keeper?

[@matthewmcnamee4563]

The werdic l99ks more like the sendy than my sendy with its wooden hqndle and spearish blade

[@CitizenValve]

I think you have to be dense to think they are the same knife.

[@tr_edc78]

They are not the same!

[@TalkingDonkey2]

🔥🔥🔥

[@alpine1600s]

“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.” ‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬-‭10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[@Bigfootguitarco]

Not the same. One is a Knaf the other is a Knife.

[@benbanters]

Correct. All Knafs are knives. But not all knives are Knafs. ;)

[@Bigfootguitarco]

@@benbanters consider this my submitted haiku 😂 🤌🏽

[@JustineWiniker]

You didn't, but your Chinese manufacturer did!

[@benbanters]

@@JustineWiniker ummmm. Nope. I worked with them for three years to make the Sendy. That’s not how WE/Civivi work.

[@FrankToThePoint]

Always makes me laugh all the finger pointers. Crying clone.. haha. So many knives have features of past knives. It's ok for some to copy but not others.

[@nilsmartschin593]

Kein Interesse an gesperrten Kanälen 👎👎👎👎👎👎