Did I make a huge mistake on the Z400… Can it be Fixed?

[@MichaelSabo]

Do you think I can pull this off? By the way, wait until you guys see the vapor blasted and zinc coated parts!!! Thank you for watching my video! If you enjoyed, hit the like button and consider subscribing 🤘😎

[@t5king850r]

100% you can do it!!!!!

[@gabrielruiz-yt2fh]

Am I the only one who presses like button before even starting the video?🤣💯

[@libtards1393]

I still gota a ton of rare tecate 4 parts if you want them for that build I wanna see them get used and I'll prob never gets a chance to build it HMU

[@MichaelSabo]

@gabrielruiz-yt2fh dude you are the man 👊 thank you

[@Savannahjbo]

Mcswole , read my comment

[@slaterider]

I admire your exuberance and willingness to attempt the harder things that other builders would never try. Best builder on the internet. I can't wait to watch more of this build.

[@MichaelSabo]

Very flattered man, definitely not the best, but thank you so much!

[@dodgendeere8768]

Mike! I’ve been welding 20 years now and I’ve done aluminum fuel tanks for a few. I have a lot of experience and I’m from eastern Pa. If you see this in time, I’ll be home this weekend and would help you if you wanted. 4043 should be okay because that takes a little more heat abuse. 5356 is stronger but it doesn’t have a high operating temp range.

[@Savannahjbo]

that gap is actually going to help.. mig or tig, get a copper spoon, well we call it a spoon , HF sells it in the welding section, think copper band in the rear of the weld section, the aluminium will not stick to it when you doing your root (1st) pass .. then get a stainless steel wire brush, ONLY use it for brushing the already clean or just fresh welded aluminum, do not let it be used for anything else.. welding aluminium tig or mig sounds diff from other welds, its normal, it will sutt up alot (black ash) its normal .. ive done alot of old harley engine repairs even w wire spool mig using the copper spoon to build it up.. years have gone by w no issues (on cast engines) obviously prectice on other cases/alum metal w the same gaps so you can get the hang of it.. good luck, it will be fine .. btw I use the omnipro 220 from HF , going on 6 or 7 years its great !

[@vettepicking]

Burn over the area with the tig torch on ac with cleaning turned up on the welder. The Hz or balance to 60hz or maxing cleaning. Then clean all the soot off with a new ss brush. Lay a bead on one side to fill the gap before joining the 2 halfs. Never want to fill a big gap because it will skrink a lot more. Do a build up on one side then weld them together.

[@Williamxmr]

That mark that looks liked a crack is called a "meet mark". It happens when the material flows through multiple paths at the same time during casting, the leading face of the flow will cool slightly and when it MEETS up with material flowing from the other direction it forms a visible seam. Structurally its not an issue, but it can leave a visual mark.

[@brianfl33916]

This is turning out to be a great build. I’d like to see a Warrior build next. 🤘🏻

[@shoes121255]

This. He already gets case savers from Weston at DRW and he's the go-to guy when it comes to modding warriors.

[@tiredMK4]

45 seconds into the video, already love it. Keep up the great work Mike!

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you man, glad you're enjoying it!

[@calabstinnet9023]

I love your videos. Let me start off by saying I hate quads. I am a dirtbike guy 1000%. But I love your attention to detail how mich pride you take in your work the fact that you explain everything and the fact that your vids aren't time lasp. I have nothing but great things to say about your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@ethanbruss26]

Mike, I am glad you’re trying to weld this yourself. You basically picked the hardest thing to try and weld. I weld professionally and do mostly aluminum I’ll weld this for free if you ship it to Ohio

[@ben_3256]

Been TIG welding on diesel fuel tanks (aluminum) for the past 12 years. This is a difficult repair!!! You should take that old scrap case, cut out another section, and try to weld it in there before moving to the actual case. USE A CARBIDE BURR (for aluminum) if you get some contamination in your weld. Treat it as if you're a dentist. Mad props if you can pull this off while learning how to TIG.

[@-jeffreybollenbach-]

Couldn’t be here any earlier man. Glad there was a video to help get this week go by. Love it man!

[@timothyprice6768]

I look forward to your videos more than any other show I watch. Thanks for the great content.

[@dougking7592]

Pre-heat the case and keep warm as much as possible watching this build has been fun YOU got this brother

[@jb1..]

That's a bold move man, I wish I had your patience!! Man I forgot how sweet that raptor was, would be cool to see you rip it with Pete on his raptor!

[@krudlumpstv7854]

You got this Mike! FUKIN AAAAMMMMPPPEEEDD FOR THIS PROJECT YO!!!

[@MichaelSabo]

🤘👊

[@mrJYjelly]

If the raptor fix works are you planning on putting up a full engine rebuild on it? I have 2 raptors that need work, but can't find any videos as detailed as yours when it comes to engine builds. Would love to build an engine using one of your videos. Thanks for the great content!

[@michaelhilling5514]

I did the same thing on an arctic cat dvx case. Been riding it for 6 or 7 years now. No problems

[@landon7150]

Finally but I’m so ready to see the end result of this z400

[@Slane583]

The Z400 is coming along nicely. Your new tweaks to the graphics make it look more like a modern special edition of the old Quad Racer. :)

[@Lracer61]

Man that is a daunting task! Great video

[@charlestaylor3434]

You got this man. Just another skill to learn and hone. Imagine then you'll never have to rely on others for any welding. It's one of those skills I've yet to challenge myself with. Not a cheap investment either...obviously. Good luck! Can't wait to see the results

[@lukecombs5242]

You sir are braver than me that’s a pressure point cause people love to bang on the shifter but I’m sure you will make it extra strong good luck can’t wait to see the final product.

[@hoppiemacv8604]

When it comes to Welding Cases! Billy Lane is the Best Case Welder on The North American Continent! The Man can Build Weld's over Fist Size Holes! On old one hundred year old Panhead cases and reshape it to Spec! It's Amazing to watch the process! And for Michael to attempt this! Well you have to start somewhere! Before you can either Fail or Learn! Simply just balsy! And I admire the F. out of his Tenacity!

[@Antiqueiron08]

Hey Mike, Graduated HS in 1990. Rode the Suzuki 250/500 back when they were brand new. What an era to be a kid! Loved every minute of it, very thankful looking back. I LOVE the 400 Rendition! Wow!! Blue/Yellow/Silver is the right way to go! Thank you! lol!! Side note, practice doing TIG welding on the old cases. Heck, weld the old piece you cut off onto the bad donor case. Be SURE to ball up the end of the Tungsten before welding Aluminum. Great video!! You Rock! 👍🏽😎

[@grantlowe]

You know it’s gonna be a good day when Mike uploads keep it up!!

[@commodore92]

I love the quad videos so much. Leaving in all the hardships really keeps it real and gives a ton of good insight into how to handle these things. I don't know shit and these help a ton. We appreciate you sir.

[@shoes121255]

Definitely watch some videos on welding cast. Jodie from the welding tips and tricks channel is great. I bought 4047 filler for welding a warrior case based on his videos. Worked ok. Get a stainless brush, bake out the impurities with the torch at low amperage. Stop, bush, repeat. Once you get some filler in it seems to get easier and will weld better on your 2nd pass. Justin from the fabrication series also has some great videos to watch.

[@patty2Strk]

Love this build !

[@Wheeler_Bros]

There is no way! I can't believe you headed to our back yard! Carolina Adventure World is a pretty cool place you will love it!

[@YerzengaPerformance]

Great video Mike. Always look forward to your next video. I've been TIG welding dirty cast aluminum a long time. Best tips I can give are to pre-heat it some with the propane or map gas. And adjust your frequency in such a way that gives you a little more cleaning action. Don't turn it down too much, but there will be a sweet spot you'll find. And when you get to an inclusion, try to stay on that spot with the torch until the inclusion pulls out. If all this works and you achieve a sound weld, it won't look like a stack of dimes because of "working" the inclusion out. The pre-heating will help a bunch. Good luck. I look forward to seeing how it goes. Pretty cool idea trying to fix the cases that way.

[@gagegarton6844]

Keep it up this is my favorite build so far

[@christopheravery5808]

You are a hell of a lot more braver than I am when it comes to doing things like this. My ass would have been like “there is no leak, it functions the way it should, SEND IT!!”… but I most definitely understand WHY you are trying to do this, you want things to look the best they possibly can. I’m most definitely a suspension you. I can put a motor together and make it work, but I’m definitely NOT an engine builder or fabricator. You’ve gotten pretty damn good at all of this ATV stuff. Watching your videos from 5/6 years ago to now there is an INSANE progression. I’ve learned a hell of a lot just from watching your videos, from mistakes to fixes, there are always lessons that I learn. Now if I can get as good at engines as I am with suspensions I’d be pretty damn happy, but I just don’t build them as often as you do. Anyway, I just want to say that I appreciate your videos and all you bring to the ATV scene. Maybe one day I can get you to put together a 400EX motor for me, it’s my backup quad for XC racing that I run in muddy or super hard packed conditions and the 250R I’m building will be for all other conditions…. I really should trade that 400EX up to a 450R but I haven’t completely decided on that yet.

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you for the love and appreciation over the years Chris - it's been great improving my skills. Lots of it is thanks to guys like you who have offered tips and tricks in comments over time 🤘

[@mikerider1237]

Yeeaaaah!!! Im so happy right know. First im shocked at how many people wanted silver wheels. That what i wanted as well. The final graphics are sick. And my original thought was blue bumper, black heal kickers, but with the silver wheels it ties in nicely with the bumper, heal guards, exhaust, handlebars, and shocks. Cant wait to see it go together. Look just like my 250 i had. 👍👍👍👍

[@landon7150]

I am a tig welder but never done aluminum but I can say take it slow and if you get frustrated with it take a break and come back to it

[@Stuckin330]

Dam im loving this ltz content !!!! Bro I’m telling you z400 was the best quad I had hands down . This brings back so many memories on my z lol

[@sailor81]

thought you were going to take the Allen Millyard approach with a hacksaw, then i see the sawzall come out and know whats about to happen 🤣 awesome video mate

[@thebigdustin]

Mike will need to drink a lot more tea to get on Allen’s level. But I can’t wait for Mike to weld together 2 Banshee engines one day.

[@JohnnieBravo1]

You'll never know if you can or not, if you don't try! Go for it!

[@fritzbuhmann2853]

I wouldn't have sawed the housing halves. I would have milled out the damaged area and welded in a piece of round material. I would then have milled a new bearing seat into this. This would have weakened your housing less. But I still wish you much success with this project and keep my fingers crossed that everything works! By the way, I would have clamped the rims of the quad in the lathe and then smoothed them with sandpaper or whatever. So, good luck and keep up your interesting videos. I really enjoy seeing them and find them very inspiring!

[@supertedogpriken]

18:18 That is just so American of you...... Weighing in at 320ish,, trying so desperately to "keep the weight down" on all of your builds.... weight savings here, and there and everywhere....... Except the driver..... #living the American dream You guys are the best. No other country can make me laugh and smile like you guys.

[@bilboswaggens2975]

You gotta put a mask on when sanding and cutting metal my man. Love the videos of course. Just make sure I can watch them well into my 90s! Super excited to see this bro lol. Welding is the one skill i too have been putting off. Partly because my buddy does it so cheap, but a lot because its an intimidating and expensive leap to take.

[@ragedemon6513]

I'll tell you I have no clue if this is going to work but you've def peaked my interest. Can't wait till we really get into this build been waiting for years for you to do one of these. Best of luck Mike you got this.

[@FunAdventuresImp]

I think its Awesome that you want to learn this skill I picked up a tig welder also but haven't used it yet cause of the winter weather But come spring there's projects that are waiting for me to finish GREAT VIDEO MIKE !! and I'm looking forward to the next !

[@JoshLitzau]

Man I really love how you are always trying something out of the norm. Can't wait to see how it comes out. Good luck learning to tig!

[@charlesloyd1970]

Tig welding is an art. I've been practicing for a couple of years when I get a chance. Let's just say that I need to dedicate myself to only Tig welding over mig welding. Two different disciplines.

[@Sawyer94..]

Weld will hold up. Gonna be hard to get the hole lined up within the machining tolerance. Good luck 👍

[@LandonGreenwald]

Man I can’t believe you cut the cases but it will be worth it in the end can’t wait for this build to be done

[@darrynruzicka2883]

Mike, if you want to get contaminants out of aluminum, especially cast aluminum, like petroleum products or whatever for welding you start with what you did then preferably go to sandblast then as what's done typically for powder coat, it's called "degassing". So first soak parts in acetone (if possible) for 20 minutes then put in an oven at 450 for 45 minutes then cool and soak in clean acetone for another 20 minutes. Now your part is clean of all contaminates except of coarse whatever was manufactured into the casting originally which you can do nothing about.

[@bsfunk44]

Tell your buddy to clean the interior glass of his vapor blaster with fine steel wool and coat the inner glass with ceramic coating. It would help him see his parts much better.

[@Cloroxbleach-mp7hv]

Michael Sabo cant wait for the 1hr video coming LOVE the build

[@hennessyremy4970]

Better later than never. Yeahhh baby!!!!!! The king had dropped another banger!!!

[@wyattguttery9614]

Crazy video man, you’re braver than most on the case repair. Can’t wait to see you rip the quad when it’s done

[@wyattdemler901]

Just a suggestion to your vapor blaster guy put some rain-x on the window so it beads off the window and you can see better

[@jmaxim80]

Hey brother, I have a Vulcan welder from Harbor Freight and knock on wood it has been a very, very good welder. It's easy to use, multi functional, and all at a fair price. Also, good on you for trying to learn a new skill. Master craftsmen are not built in a day, it's a life time of learning and honing your craft. Good luck, brother.

[@williamrowe9481]

I think you can pull it off bro can’t wait to see the finished result love the videos fam

[@tmveronee]

Man I'm really excited to see the next video! I've got faith that you'll get it figured out. I recently bought the same welder and I love it. You got this!

[@strykerentllc]

Acetone is your friend. Clean the surfaces and your filler rod. Run practice beads on the junk case's edge and use 20CFH of gas with a #5 cup. Don't see a tungsten grinder and you'll need one to bring your tungsten to a pencil point to control your arc so it doesn't walk on you. Blast the HZ and wear ear plugs as higher HZ will give you deep penetration--- oh yeah, that's what she said. Good luck!

[@jerrylong3580]

Can’t wait for the welding video. Make sure to include the practice welding too. Doesn’t matter how long it will be.

[@aaronhdz4872]

My favorite time of the week! MICHAEL SABO VIDEO!!!!

[@rickmitchell5415]

Nothing you can’t do,look forward to seeing you do this

[@Realjessepeterson]

I like trying stuff like this, but why not just weld the shift shaft hole up and machine the hole back

[@smoothlover073]

Try and weld the 2 bad pieces together for practice. It will allow you to know the angles so when you go to the 2 good pieces you will be familiar with it.

[@michaelmitchell5909]

You'll do fine Mike, your a true skilled mechanic and craftsman...an inspiration for me to tackle rebuilding my harley twin cam .....can't wait to see this suzuki done man

[@msaul85]

You were a freaking surgeon with a demo tool, way to use that sawzall like a scalpel! 👍

[@That_Dyna_Guy]

Clean the surface and your tungsten rod with acetone prior to welding. You can set your machine to “clean” the surface, go slow, take your time, and melt the impurities out at the surface then add filler rod. Grind your tungsten to a nice uniform point

[@curtiswilcock5628]

Some say put the cases in acetone to clean them before you do anything as they use to it clean them to do cerekote too so may help clean them even more but they look clean to me

[@Pjw350]

There has to be a subscriber that lives near you that has experience tig welding or whose father has experience tig welding cases that can help out😊

[@Berm_Blaster]

Preheating cast befte welding will help. But cast is difficult to weld. After welding you are supposed to cover the pieces with sand to slow the cooling. When they cool off too fast the material becomes brittle and will break.

[@MrMike0132]

You need to name this quad Frank. For the Frankenstein to come I am really looking forward to how this comes out! Good job.

[@transam1242]

Good luck brother. Everyone has to learn sometime. Practice practice practice

[@wherewithalmoto]

I've recently been looking into welding myself lately. Just gotta justify spending all the money to get started when I don't have a need for it to my wife.

[@eamonblaney5368]

Shaping up great Michael 👌 Keep that rs3. Run the newer one when your riding but please put the rs3 on for photos and reveal video. The older exhaust suits the quad far better 🤤

[@abbybonilla4511]

Mike at some point you're gonna have to invest in some dedicated impact wrenches and update them, just a suggestion so stoked to see the end result! Funny thing is my ex LTZ-400 was silver/metallic navy blue frame with white plastics bone stock so its still the stock idea just swapping plastics really

[@MrATOMBOMB420]

I have a set of 03 cases that are like mint condition it's a complete bottom end crank transmission everything I have wire harnesses cylinders so much parts I would have sent you the cases for dirt cheap

[@strykerentllc]

He might just need them still. For him to be hot gluing these cast cases for his first go with the TIG, it's likely he'll need your cases anyway so hang on to them. Got a feeling Mike's going to be tapping your shoulder for them very soon.

[@gabrielruiz-yt2fh]

Yesss new vid dropped

[@calamitycycles5994]

Another Z400 video!!!❤ You spoil us too much Micheal

[@jamesthomas2529]

It can be done.Fun project.

[@Bl8nkk]

always a good day when mike uploads

[@jessehenson7934]

Mike when you weld you should not bevele your edges the weld is not glue it does not just stick them together you need that metal that you are removing to join the metal when my uncle thought me he talked about making sure you have good penetration and melt it all kinda so it becomes basically one piece do a little bit more research I'm sure you will get and I'm not knit picking you I just figured you the kinda guy who is always trying to improve so thought I would try and help

[@MikelCorbello]

Baking them will definitely make a big difference I do them same

[@bigbullhorn8443]

Do It!! Do It!! Do It!!

[@brettcoop9149]

Very interested to see how this turns out. Dude, you should check out the Primeweld 225X. Better welder, better customer support, and it supports the addition of a water cooler for the torch (they get HOT!). Not sponsored or affiliated with them, just a satisfied customer.

[@lucascady4992]

Has to be clean, but more importantly Aluminum has to be sweated to remove moisture and other impurities.. It can be done, give me a torch and a welder, I can pretty much fix anything?! 😂😮Nice set-up, Tig Welding is an Art!! As I said, sweat the aluminum, Cast is definitely the worst! Love the Channel, love the content, Good luck Buddy!!

[@humpday2267]

I’m excited to see how you do on the case Mike. Keep up the videos. Loved today’s upload. You’re one of my favorite channels for sure

[@FatHulkRideEbike]

Awesome you are trying this. Even if it doesn't work you'll learn a lot and the cases are nearly junk anyway. If you can bring it back it will be a hue win. Lots of credit for saying "F it, let's try it." I have been thinking myself of getting harbor freight's best multiprocess welder. I would use it seldom but would be nice to have. Thoughts on those multiprocess welders?

[@Keegan_22]

Love the video man🤟 I’m doing the same thing to my wheels. I sanded my coding off and did a three-step polish and it brought all the chrome back.

[@YOLO891]

Hour long vids of the great Sabo builds are missed.

[@ricardoquezada3109]

If you’re coming to Carolina adventure works just skip past it and go to Durham town the trails at Carolina have side by side ruts never maintained enough for sport quads

[@edge6715]

Love your videos and just wanted to quickly mention the battery as you said it was a Li-ion (Lithium Ion) but it is in fact a Li-Fe (Lithium Ion Phosphate) battery which has a slightly lower voltage per cell of 3.2v as opposed to 3.7v per cell of the normal Li-ion. Saying that, it is supposed to be slightly safer and have a longer lifespan. Keep up the great work on your videos dude. 🤓👍❤ UK Subscriber.

[@frankwilliams2198]

Cool your back rock n roll you got this.

[@Jpsmoto]

Dope ass vid Mike. You’re my favorite KZbinr on here!

[@driesolwage6350]

Cant wait for the next episode

[@_Otaku-kt8be]

You should have bought AHP AlphaTig 225xi they're $725 and work very well

[@johnbryner9052]

Great video Mike, can’t wait to see the results. Btw, I just recently bought a Eastwood 180. It can mig steal up to 5/16 , can’t remember tig specifics. But I’m sure it would be great for u. I went one step above the average hobbyist even though I’m the average hobbyist. On some Tim Tool man shit lol Unfortunately I shattered my pelvis and broke my back in Nov. but I’m walking really good already, hopefully a few weeks and I start doing more. I paid 500, the guy on the phone gave me an awesome discount just cause. I called and purchased it after lots of questions. He was very patient and helpful and I called back twice asking questions and the wait time wasn’t long and they are courteous and informative. The tig extension is an extra 200. I haven’t got that yet. Thought u might be interested for future. I’m dying for a ASPCA rip video. I’ve been a little sad cause I/we haven’t seen one yet. Anyway ur awesome Mike and I love the creativity and ingenuity u come up with in ur videos. Maybe since we are almost kind of off the rails, how about we put a stroker rod in it, and a higher compression piston? Nothing too crazy just a bump up you know what I mean make 450 keep up with the 450s. Just a thought. In the future, maybe you can find a four stroke and do the same thing you did with the banshee and 250r, that would be cool.

[@PatrickWelch45]

im doing a topend on my 04 ltz400 love the videos man been watching all your builds great content

[@MichaelSabo]

Thank you for the love Pat and good luck on your Z top end!

[@shadetreemotorsports]

I'm excited for the outcome of this.good or bad. I bought the same welder bout A year and a half ago,to fix a cracked oil tank on my raptor. Gave up and bought a replacement. That aluminum welding/tig is a whole new game. Life swooped in and my shop has been at a stand still. I'm really interested in how that battery works. Might be a good replacement for my 1200 sportster. It's a tough one to crank over also.

[@Thesquarebox]

Love the content dude I have watch so many of your videos 🤘🏽

[@flyinryan490]

I need you to build a 2018 kodiak 700. I wanna see you port it and get it tuned. Trim some weight off it and ripp it. A utility quad mad spot with your touches. Been watching since the early days. Keep at it sabo.

[@F5Tornado44]

Hey Mike, what about polishing the wheels? They will buff out really good and look sweet.

[@Hubbard_Randall69]

Always good content Mike. Keep up the hard work boss