DID I RUIN MY CHAINSAWS CHAIN!

THIS VIDEO EXPLAINS CHAINSAW SHARPENING, GULLET , CUTTING EDGES , AND PERHAPS WHY YOUR ONLY SHARP FOR A FEW CUTS

[@GunfighterAlpha]

Half the fun of building rifles and handloads is knowing a hundred thou or .1 grains can make the difference. The constant pursuit of perfection is as much fun as using them. You take the same approach with saws. The excitement your passion creates is contagious. Lovely to see.

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

thx friend

[@jerrywright7034]

AU

[@nettypets]

Good morning Buckin, this is Frank wife Nanette, just thought better let you know its 6 months since Frank passed away and I'm still not handling losing my sweetheart Frank. From Frank wife in Australia

[@gunterbecker8528]

A couple of words would've been nice from Billy, but he's a busy man as suppose. My sincere condolences about your husband, myself I'm from Australia. Stay well,look after yourself 😊

[@nettypets]

@@gunterbecker8528 thank you so much as its now 2 years since Frank has gone. As I'm doing my best and trying hard to keep busy. As I have been doing a few videos for my channel. Nettie, down under.

[@nigelh45]

This was over the blackboard in my classroom at school “ If you hear something you forget, if you see something you remember, if you do something you know”. It’s worked for me👍

[@568843daw]

I inherited my fathers chainsaws. He never let us sharpen them. He did it. So here I am, using KZbin to learn the “How To” of sharpening a chainsaw. 😂🤣 As an Electrician, I can honestly say, never trust anyone teaching electrical techniques on the Tube. I have yet to see one guy download accurate info. It’s usually the stuff that will kill you or burn your house down. Still, you actually seem to know what you are doing. It is refreshing. Keep doing it Brother! 👍👏👏👏your gift is appreciated.

[@mikecook2714]

THANK YOU BROTHER ! I appreciate all your efforts and time you spend for all of us out here !!!!!

[@joshuajohnson4396]

Aman Mike

[@jeremiepintimalli7626]

thats hilarious! i was at 12min in and was just about to skip back 5 seconds to see how smooth you threw your saw and you went a head and pulled a triple replay!! what a man.. i guess great minds think alike. rock on!!

[@mendonesiac]

I love this channel for just this: sometimes you show us how you use an oversized file to get results, and sometimes you use an undersized file to get results. There is no wrong way to cut wood!

[@fabzacres-blackcat]

From my experience the STIHL RS chain most definitely holds an edge the longest vs Oregon LGX or Husqvarna X cut at least in my timber. It’s not the FASTEST outta the group and costs a bit more but it s made outta a higher Rockwell steel than the others. All are excellent chains in their own right - pros and cons to all

[@mattfleming86]

Stihl RM for me is even better. It blows my mind how long it cuts actually "good" Will full chisel or square ground chain cut faster? Oh yeah.. but mine will cut good for a looong time. Sometimes I dont even take a file.. just a few backup chains in case I find an old fence staple or rock it. When I get home i'll just 30/55/.030 it on the grinder bench.

[@fabzacres-blackcat]

@@mattfleming86 iirc the RM chain is a semi-chisel vs the RS chain which has a full-chisel (RM round corner vs RS pointed corner) … While it may cut a fuzz slower I agree that it will hold its edge longer. Happy sawing !

[@richardfuerst5286]

Stihl chrome plates their cutters for one. I agree with you as being harder. As a retired STIHL tech I've sharpened all brands, Oregon sharpens easier because it's softer.

[@fabzacres-blackcat]

@@richardfuerst5286 believe it or not I can actually tell it’s harder than the others when I file it ! It’s HARDER to file 😀. It may be more expensive for a loop of chain up front but it’s been my experience that it will buck more wood over its lifespan than the others thus a better overall value

[@bumpin8833]

I agree with this 100%. The drive links on the Stihl chain also seem to be stronger. I despise working with Oregon or Husqvarna chain. But that is only my experience so YMMV.

[@antthonymartin6003]

MAN I'm always here as much as I can keep up what u doing u are so positive to alot of people

[@johnthorpe8549]

Great video. I wish I could explain as good as you. I usually have to show the people I help. Keep it up brother.

[@push_trees3584]

I'm really interested in starting to sharpen my own chains. Thanks for all the information Buckin

[@Jason-wc3fh]

No man should use a chainsaw without knowing how to sharpen it. You'd be surprised how easy and rewarding it is when you pay attention and do it right. Put it on a bench vice to make your life easier when learning.

[@richardhampton4612]

Great video… love the experimental work, explanations and demonstrations…

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

I absolutely love this chain journey Buckin. So much knowledge and experience shared and learned together. Thank you for all the sharing of this part of your journey on this. Love ya brother. 🌲❤️🌲👊🪓

[@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648]

Thanks Buckin for taking the time to share all these filing ideas. Nothing but good can come from trying new ways

[@kenm7899]

Hey Buckin, living on Vancouver Island and being a pro logger how about spilling the beans on some sasquatch experiences or stories from some fellow loggers...i would love to hear about it... keep up the great videos... i watch every day... thanks

[@chrisbroesky2932]

Good idea would like to hear also.

[@paulmcreynolds1774]

Another great video Buckin. I'm going to try my hand at hand filling a full chisel chain in the near future after a little more tree work. I like the look of the new t-shirt design.

[@jjm5982]

thanks mister B, I need you to know how important what may seem mundane and simple or habit to you is a big learning curve for some of us. CANNOT THANK you enough for taking time to explain and show us the ropes woodman !! By the way i am still learning how to round file so the saw does not stop when making the gunner cut/ first cut to fell the tree. To aggressive i think but i didnt hit the rakers yet !! 28 inch full house has a hell of a lot more teeth to file than a 20 inch bar !!! HA HA 🤣🤣

[@pilkpulk8284]

hey buckin! great close-ups! I understood a lot today. details explain very well.thanks for that. have a great day, love ya brother!

[@jirusjirus9322]

I hope you folks over there will be able to keep warm this winter. Saw that fire wood is at a premium in Deutschland...🪵🪓

[@pilkpulk8284]

@@jirusjirus9322 hi jirus! don't worry, i have three chainsaws, lots of axes and cleavers and live close to the forest. if it really gets that cold here I have enough to heat. but if you sell firewood now, you can make good money here, hahaha. have a nice day my friend!

[@brennanhewitt7609]

This series has inspired me to experiment with my chain sharpening, tried out square filing and I'm blown away with the results! Thanks for the motivation to test out new things Buck!

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

you got it

[@bigmtnskier420]

Mr. Buckin Natural shirt is a must! Thanks for always inspiring and teaching, this video truly helped me get those chips flying!

[@Dolmar-Rick]

Love these chain vids fella. I've been experimenting with my bench grinder, dressing the stone wheels so it cuts the tooth more like or resembles a square tooth. Well similar, yes we don't have those Simington grinders over the pond have considered shipping one over though they ain't cheap🤑. might have to get the square files though for a crack at handing it👍

[@bumpin8833]

As soon as they become available, I have thought of trying the same thing with the new Hexa chain grinding wheels. Will probably have to redress one and play with the angles on the USG but it should be possible.

[@shawnwilson5789]

Thank you for going over the gullet with the baby “c” and different file choices. I just started learning hand square file but now going experiment with some of these round fillings methods.

[@charlesboston1]

something i've been playing with is increasing the distance between the cutting edge of the tooth and the raker , meaning i'll grind out about half of the raker . i find this allows me to have the rakers slightly higher than i would normally have them , but with gentle pressure the chain will bite easier into the wood as there is less bearing surface on the top of the raker holding things back .. this might also create more space for chips waiting to be cleared out , especially on large logs

[@ricktaylor3748]

I've never heard of a "raker," it's called a "drag", it keeps the cutting tooth from going too deep into the wood. Still and Carlton chains are junk. Always buy Oregon chains.

[@charlesboston1]

@@ricktaylor3748 no one i have ever talked to has called them a "drag" and i have been working in various sawmills and tree spacing , falling , bucking , getting firewood since the mid 80's

[@johnc9738]

Not only stops the tooth going to deep but also moves chips out the way

[@ToddBeal]

@Buckin' Billy Ray Smith | "It's all in the bottom part of the cutting edge." Brilliant! Thank you for this.

[@glendajune9140]

That baby C cuts so fast,& smooth. Nice tutorial Buckin, learned something new today.💯❤️👍🏾😀🙋🏽‍♀️✝️🙏🏾🇺🇸

[@thomasgronek6469]

Thanks Buckin' I had to use this technique to properly sharpen a square filed chisel tooth (Stihl chain, so the configuration of the tooth is little different), when one square files (As you know), the tooth gets three cutting edges, and two angles. while filing, this causes the file to bind in the tooth (NOT optimal for configuration), so I cut a relief under the side plate, with a round file (3/8 chain, 3/16 file) at a 30° angle to the tooth, and a 20° angle to the bar, similar to the angle used for a round filing , just as close to the chain as possible. The tie straps on the Stihl chain have an indent in the center, making it easy to get the file lower than normal (Yes, I still cut into the tie strap a little bit). End result: A very fast chain that is MUCH easier to sharpen. thanks again.

[@Cholton222]

Its awesome. I'm doing a steep hook next filing . I'm getting footage Saturday and tuesday. I'll have it up by end of week. I also have a 5/32 baby c on my .325 pitch chain on the husky 545.

[@mikeking6593]

I have to say thank you for these sharpening videos. I've learned a ton but I'm still mediocre. I get better every time. This baby C is so far beyond my abilities but I'll get there. Be safe and keep up the great content. Thanks

[@Jason-dx3zh]

learned alot from ur sharpening videos as a novice firewood cutter with an addiction to wood chip 🤣 great videos

[@fabzacres-blackcat]

You aren’t going to weaken the side plate by using the 5/32 baby “c” method - remember the total depth of cut is determined by the raker. It cuts quicker because of better chip evacuation and the changed geometry of the tooth - smaller radius file . You can do ALOT to a sqr/rnd chain to get super quick cut cut - I’ve personally gotten within 7% of sqr/sqr (square ground chain) just by hand filing the top plate at a steeper angle. It does dull a fuzz quicker all things being equal but it cuts FAST

[@busterhoskins9751]

This man's spirit and attitude are top notch, keep it up friend 👏

[@seandaly8782]

Watching you here in co cork Ireland your video’s help me so much with my chain sharpening I’d be lost without you keep it up and stay safe 👍

[@shmilyforrest]

Thanks, Billy for your wonderful artwork explaining the various profiles for filing chains. I understand so much more now.

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

glad it helped ,, i was bottom of the art class , but could tell a mean story... lol

[@midnightsnakeboa]

you do the best videos on the chainsaw sharpening i been watching you on here for years you have teach me a lot. thank you very much

[@joshk.6246]

Buckin Billy Ray, I'm a new watcher of your videos. I was trying to figure out why you are so happy and friendly, then I realized your from Canada.

[@ED-es2qv]

Chip size is directly related to the energy required to make the cut. In manufacturing engineering we calculate the energy by analyzing the amount of new surface area created, which is minimized by making the largest chips you can. The trade off is that more power (work divided by time) is required to make bigger chips, and each material has limits. For a given tool, it’s most efficient to make the biggest chips your power can support.

[@johnnunn9370]

Hi bucking big dog, I've been enjoying your videos for a long time now...even bought you a coffee from Time to time, but just lately I've been watching some of your old videos...and I've got to say...man!! The axe of life....alcoholism...near death..it takes a strong man man to admit his faults and look them in the face. Love you bucking, I'm having a close look at my faults now....and its hard.

[@rugerfarming5387]

Looks like very good results Buckin. Good job on the filing. Filing videos are my favorite.

[@thewoodmansk5510]

Cheers buckin. Trying new things isn’t going to always be filled with wins, but it’s a process.

[@steveking4966]

as a timber framer feller and sawyer, i would go back to how i was trained on edge tools. on the top plate you want to create a cutting edge between 25° and 30° , 30° more resiliant and better edge retention BUT not quite as sharp. the same applies to chain which is bassically a series of chisels on a chain.

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

Humility, experience, journey, and sharing. What more could you possibly ask for in a good man??? Thank you BBR for all that you do for this wonderful community👍💪🙏 Love you all...❤❤❤ Lieutenant Bradley

[@martyrutter3630]

Could not have said it better Mr Bradley 👍👍

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

@@martyrutter3630 Thank you, Marty! Not sure what it is, but every time I watch this man, I am humbled , making me look at myself and how I can try to be a better man.

[@martyrutter3630]

Not sure where you live but I am thinking about traveling to the Paul Bunyan in October, would love to meet you and many others on the channel 👍👍

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

@@martyrutter3630 I an in Southeastern Pennsylvania. About a 6 hour drive to that event. I'm going to do my best to make it.

[@Matt-rs4kq]

when you put the saw on the stump and gave it a shot of gas to help maneuver yourself to the other side it gave me goose bumps hahaha that was brilliant , another great video buckin i cant tell you how much i enjoy your content , have a wonderful day !!

[@jonathankerr354]

Very informative! I feel like the baby C and chip dump turns the standard chain into a race chain.

[@donsmith3314]

Love the Keep On Bucking idea! Need that on an old truckers hat!! Love to all from Northern Alberta

[@cw4973]

I believe Arbutus is the same as what we call Madrone here on the west coast down in the states Billy. Have a great day as always🤘

[@spinelesstrucker9303]

Keep on Buckin and keep on Truckin ! You know I wantv2 Keep on Buckin T Shirts !! One for me and one for Herb !! I think it's an awesome Idea !!!

[@John-cj3ve]

I've never critiqued how I hand file a chain; I just know that when I get a chain back from being "sharpened" and "reset" on a machine; it always cuts BETTER than it did after I got it back from the shop, after I hand file it when it needs sharpening again.

[@joebrent2762]

Love the t-shirt ideas! I'm 6 ft 2 and bucking wood with a 20-in bar is a pain in my back! Going to the local hardware store and switch it out for a 28-in bar! I run a 60 cc Husqvarna, so I should have no problem with that bar.

[@jeepinass]

28 inch bar is 70cc territory.

[@joebrent2762]

@@jeepinass I'm going to port the saw too. I may drop down to a 24, but I think with the port job, it should be fine. I am going to do with the saw is cut firewood for myself. Just something to tinker with.

[@JerryBARNGROVER]

great stuff,learned alot from you,you are a positive person,great stuff ,keep truckin

[@MRKUE]

Yeah I like your jammin , that fade in on your last video was cool! These videos have been really good! Thanks Buckin'!

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

welcome friend,, thx

[@geralddavis9236]

Love you and the content any video I see of you with a file in your hand I watch and absorb it has helped me with my filing ten fold round and square thank you much brother Buckin my love to you and your family

[@loadeddog8015]

“It cuts ay.. !!”….. welcome to the new subscribers & a salute for the true blues… top vid mate, the baby c sure eats…. Does the arbutis burn better than the fur ?…. Love & hugs for mama buckin’ be kind everyone.. KDuff 🤛….😎👍🇦🇺

[@jasonlewis4837]

That was the best description I’ve ever seen im not a good artist either but it definitely helps the understanding of the cut

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

kool

[@KillingerUSA]

Love ya Buckin!

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

Love ya

[@silvermediastudio]

All the theory in the world doesn't replace experiential learning. One must take what they've absorbed through conceptual learning and then go apply it to turn that information into real knowledge and wisdom.

[@rugerfarming5387]

i like the video you posted the other day. i was watching and trying to learn that was the only reason for my question. And Thank you for answering my question. I didnt mean nothing bad about it. You have really helped me fine tune my hand filing. So Thank you for that.

[@jeffc9354]

Great video bud glad we’re getting some cooler weather. I totally agree with have your own experience I’ve tried many different ways of file in chain to see what works best for me love your channel bud and I’m being kind much more than my younger years

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

GOOD MAN

[@jeffc9354]

@@BuckinBillyRaySmith thank you sir

[@TreeGenie]

wood doesnt dull a chain the dirt and sand trapped in bark or debris the tree has grown around and just plain sticking your saw in the dirt... im loving the square grind after getting the hang of it seems to last the longest in hardwoods (oak n hickory, elm) a little grabby on pines tho.. even after 5-10 .. 40+ inch oaks still way sharper than a factory grind.. and as long as i haven't hit wire its usually 3 swipes with the file n back to scary sharp

[@popswrench2]

tried the "baby C" many years ago in me mid20s . worked Great , but harder to keep file hi enuff on tooth , i may try with my new PFERD file guide ; the Blue Mule file guide . first up , works nice , brainless and the handle ends are an arthritic hands help . will cut today to find how CUTS . filing is easy in FORESTER chain vice (highly modified and more to come)

[@bryantitus6634]

Based on the wood database I was just on, arbutus or pacific madrone is very similar to Hard Maple from the northeastern US and Canada. The grains, color, etc all look very similar to our north east hard maple. It's similar to American beech in hardness and weight as well. Your bigleaf maple native to the Pacific coast is more similar to our silver maple and red maples that are 1/2 to 2/3 as hard as Hard Maple, often called rock maple or sugar maple as it's used for maple syrup production.

[@Trump985]

I love these videos, I find it fun to try different grinds, going to try this one tomorrow! 🍻

[@Lordy29]

If your after hardwood come to Australia! That stuff still looks like our softwoods 😂 great videos mate! Keep them coming!

[@michaelyounger4497]

I sharpened a chain recently making a 5/32 file put the "c" in there and it cuts oak like butter. Nice big chips. One thing I have a question on though..when I have to cut parallel with the wood fibers the chips become like straw..maybe 5 cm (2 inch) long and if I dont watch it they clog up the discharge chute on the saw...did I do something wrong on sharpening or is this normal? PS I used your video to convince my son in law that he can sharpen chains instead of throwing them away when dull..I guess he's a little sharper now too!

[@hdj81Vlimited]

i did this on my chain from stihl 066 a few years now. must file a bit longer and the bur must do another round to get off. just need a fine tuned chainsaw now. or porting a bit maybe. Your saws running strong.

[@dennisconstantine624]

September and firewood season coming up, yahoo. Cheers from NZ

[@adelarsen9776]

Look Up and Live. It could mean so many things but pertains to safety. Thank you for the video,. I watched the whole video 🙂

[@robmcclure871]

that saw cuts like a crazy. i may never do a baby C but i can not argue it works great.

[@markbreidenbaugh6033]

Love this technical stuff it is right up my alley.

[@martyrutter3630]

That edge retention looked insignificant after those cuts👍👍

[@pipesmcgee9270]

I remember the " keep on truckin' patches and heck ya I would buy a keep on buckin' t-shirt.

[@charlesboston1]

feels like sept also up here in the cariboo

[@joshuajohnson4396]

My 13yr old son said I look like wear a bra because I have tan lines on my back from my highvis reflectors through my shirt. Tennessee is mild compared other places. Crazy but true

[@charlesboston1]

@@joshuajohnson4396 LOL ....

[@shartne]

You making some great firewoo. Yep that saw is sharp.

[@ottodydaktyk]

Yeah, the Keep On Buckin shirt sounds cool, as long as it's not too expensive. I have so many questions for you, it's not funny. I'm a chainsaw newbie and keeping the chain sharp has become an issue, hence why I'm watching your videos. Thanks!

[@paulgreco2188]

Love the sound of that ramhorn exhaust!!!

[@marcofemto9417]

Oooohhh so excited to try this and show it off at work

[@garygardner6536]

Be interested when you come to Oz to see how you go in dry red gum and yellow box. That will test your wood bullet, think it might turn into wood bouncy

[@gorgon9786]

Great topic, I'm trying to get my round-file work improved, - thanks to you, sir!.. My chains, Oregon,. Can I please get your answer and advise,!.. What brand round files are the best?.. I mean, to me it seems like the files get so fast worn-out..!

[@aaronrexius3204]

Awesome! I don't know how many vids i seen from you on how to sharpen. great vids!

[@BikerBenny]

Old timer cruzin the town 😆 0:08 That reminds me of my uncle who had a dairy farm in upstate NY 😆😆 great character sir Ray

[@barry8458]

..started w/the 5/32 and hit it with the 3/16 to finish off the edge..looks good ..yeah taking down the chain but…want the knowledge..purchasing a few more sizes of files to boot 👍🏼

[@oracleg0d]

Awesome video and love the new keep on buckin' shirt idea!

[@ericevans9733]

New intro music is tight! Thanks Buckin

[@andyd.1793]

Hahe, love the new shirt design!👍😉🌳

[@sjekkie8299]

i see you have a dog :-), cant remeber to see that happy tail before

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

OH HECK YEAH BUCKIN On the Keep On Buckin shirt. Love it. 🌲❤️🌲👊🪓

[@stihlnz]

BBK, sadly most people have not spent an occupational lifetime sharpening saws ....so one of those stihl sharpening jigs is the best thing they can use, besides an oregon drop sharpener ... till they grow up and go square ground like you taught us.

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

Interesting,, see I wood think if some one was interested in chainsaws and living the “get yer own wood life that the best thing you could do is get rid of those gadgets you talked about and every opportunity they get grab a file . .. good to see ya Tom

[@stihlnz]

@@BuckinBillyRaySmith Good to see you too Billy. I've got 7 chainsaw mates probably more and only 1 of them can 1/2 handfile ( I rate myself 75%) its the old ..after 2- 3 files I side gets more pressure as they are right handed than the left so the saw cuts circles. We just haven't got your eye and experience. I'm getting along with my handfilling square ground ..it just takes time and patience and a lot of these people just cut firewood once a year for 3-5 mornings ... 12 -15 cubes of wood and the saw goes away for the year. Not like you who's out every day on the stump. I've got a Simington for my square grind and lend out my Oregon drop sharpener to near everyone. Good on you mate for helping the chainsaw world get better ... stand up and buck. Tom

[@tomnielsen6439]

Love all your videos. I have watched all your chain sharpening videos. I will try the baby C.

[@keithprine8981]

In my area we have Osage Orange and American Hornbeam that has a bit of hardness to it. BTW great video!

[@macksgarage1291]

15:48 those aren’t chips, that’s confetti Awesome!!!

[@andrewketchum5098]

If it's a comparison to dead locust I'd say she's cutting beautifully

[@coopershistorygarage2804]

I like the new shirt idea! 👍

[@user-es7rn2xh1f]

From Central America, Nicaragua. FELIX I'am confuse, I seen the one to take out the gullet, and making the C, but now with the one with the little c, I see the gullet and still cut. I just recive my first chain saw in my life still ms 291. Can you explain please.

[@justinweaver8787]

Very interesting information

[@ericevans9733]

Arbutus is close to hardness like white oak or sugar/rock maple for us out on the East Coast, only thing I cut that's harder is prob. shagbark hickory, maybe some ironwood

[@yrdGBA]

that was my fear using the smaller diameter round file on the baby C that you could hook that top plate, which would dull very quickly

[@martyrutter3630]

Thanks Buckin for explaining the chip bump, makes sense going to have to try this one ☝️ Being Kind♥️

[@denniskisejr1736]

this baby c reminds me of a time we were camped out cutting cedar in the swamps we lost our box of files! and we found a box of small files in the truck and the 96 year old logger in charge said use those files its the cutting edge that mattered. and after that week are chains took on the baby c and they cut. we finished the job with those files!

[@joshuajohnson4396]

Buckin in a directors outfit saying CUT. I'd like it. Thanks Buckin

[@joshuajohnson4396]

Teacher on front asking what do you want to a living. Cletus on the back saying BUCK OFF

[@lukepodolski8818]

Excellent t-shirt and video.

[@randygrider9758]

Don’t understand the throttling. Hit the wood wide open, and don’t let off until the cut is complete. Just wearing out your clutch