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@Jan127003 жыл бұрын
Manscaped is trash!
@BiggerR103 жыл бұрын
@@Jan12700 yeah, fuck em!!
@stijnvdv22 жыл бұрын
This ain't a giant plot hole.... the story isn't about finding the MacGuffin, the story is about the character and the character arc. It's about the character Indiana Jones in this story. Whether the A-story in the end is accomplished or not or whether the character was relevant to the ending of the A-story is usually not relevant at all. It's the journey of the character that interests people, guys want to be this guy and women want to marry this guy! That's why it's popular; it's popular coz it's entertaining, fun.... words in today's Hollywood are as much as a distant relic as the artifacts in Indiana Jones itself. Maybe that's why Hollywood goes down the tube... they think they are a political party having to stuff political agenda's down your throat instead of ... you know, being the ENTERTAINMENT industry.
@eldestgruff3 жыл бұрын
I'd counter the "Indy is useless" argument with Marion 100% gets killed for the talisman and there's no guarantee the Ark ends up in the hands of the good guys after it gets opened the first time. Indy being there and surviving guaranteed the Ark fell into the right hands in the end.
@mesozoicisland223 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!
@Mineoutain3 жыл бұрын
I am glad someone said this
@kaimagnus57603 жыл бұрын
Also, lets not ignore the fact that in the story no one knew the Nazis wouldn't be able to control the Ark's power. So Indy interfearing was a safeguard to keep that from happening.
@lukasbryant98813 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Someone else using their head to think through things. Though I love his ending point.
@marxel44443 жыл бұрын
imagine them bringing the ark to hitler, all the high nazi people are there,they open it. nazi high command gone in the blink of an eye!
@Joe38183 жыл бұрын
"It's an ADVENTURE MOVIE! It's about following along with Indy's ADVENTURE!" "Oh, he said that. Okay"
@RefnRes3 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones to me is what every good grandad wants to have happened in their lives when they're sat telling their grandkids stories about their life. It's not about beating the bad guys. They are peripheral. It's just about a guy finding his way through a whole load of crazy circumstances on his adventures which one day he is going to really exaggerate to his grandkids. The point is that no matter how bad ass you are, there are always things out of your control.
@TheGeorgeD133 жыл бұрын
Yup. My favorite stories to tell people are the ones where I was on the periphery of some crazy shit that was going on and I was along for the ride.
@SpikeTheBear3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this was so well put, could never have said it better myself
@sleepdeep3053 жыл бұрын
To be honest, that's what I always thought the true plot of the movie was
@pieterboelen28623 жыл бұрын
@@sleepdeep305 To be honest, you may be exactly right there!
@williamozier9183 жыл бұрын
You should watch the YOung Indiana Jones Chronicles. Every episode begins with an old man wearing a fedora, and someone always says something about history, and then the old an pipes up "let me tell you a story...'. It's actually an awesome show, and Old Indy is actually a fascinating take on the character.
@roosterman843 жыл бұрын
The Nazis were already tracking Marion I thought. They were at the bar, she had the medallion from her well known dad. Calling her an innocent bystander is a stretch.
@xaviervargas40983 жыл бұрын
Plus, it's absurd to say he put her in danger. She literally forces him to take her along. It's a whole scene.
@wdsmkc3 жыл бұрын
Indy learns that Abner had found the headpiece as a result of the intercepted Nazi message. The Nazi’s knew Abner had it. They were actively seeking the headpiece. It would have only been a matter of time before they got to Marion. Were it not for Indy’s intervention, the Nazi’s get the full headpiece and with it the full translation (the script initially included dialogue during the translation scene that indicated that anyone who saw the Ark being opened would be killed... hence he knew to keep his eyes shut). Therefore, Indy’s intervention deprived the Nazi’s of the critical piece of information that would have allowed them to succeed. The so-called plot hole is nothing more than the movie omitting a piece of clarifying information. Additionally, as the events of Raiders and Crusade prove that the Christian God ABSOLUTELY exists within the IJ universe, it is reasonable to assume that Indy is a necessary instrument of God to see his will carried out.
@Agills-Photography3 жыл бұрын
@@wdsmkc what about the evil of Kali Ma though? I mean, the power of the Sankara stones and the powers granted to Mola Ram also prove that Kali absolutely exists
@brown22sugar253 жыл бұрын
@@Agills-Photography yeah there are several coexisting religions in Indiana Jones including aliens, but we don’t talk about that
@JACCO200820123 жыл бұрын
@@Agills-Photography I think Mola Ram even says something about using Kali to destroy the Christian God as they take over.
@ryanwest11643 жыл бұрын
Is it a plot hole that the avengers fail to stop Thanos in avengers infinity war? If the avengers weren’t in the movie, Thanos still would have snapped 1/2 the universe.
@kashsmith61813 жыл бұрын
No. A plot hole is when something in the narrative contradicts something else that the narrative had already established. Something not changing the outcome is not a plot hole.
@creed87123 жыл бұрын
The contradiction in infinity war is why Doctor strange didn’t destroy the time stone when he had the chance since endgame shows us that it didn’t matter to its survival which I assume will be going into in doctor strange 2. Regardless if he had destroyed the stone Thanos wouldn’t have had the ability to get all the stones in the first place
@kashsmith61813 жыл бұрын
@@creed8712 I don't think he could destroy it. The only reason Wonda could destroy the mind stone, as stated in the movie, was because her power came from it.
@creed87123 жыл бұрын
@@kashsmith6181 I assume that’s how it works for all of them? The stones were created, destroying the time stone would be localizing its power into rewinding the stone itself back in time to before creation.
@kashsmith61813 жыл бұрын
@@creed8712 They exist outside of the multiversal creation. Placed into each universe by the Celestials who receive them from the god mines. Plus, they can't actually be destroyed in the conventional sense. Rather, they change forms. It is hinted that Wanda is now like a living embodiment of the mind gem. But even disregarding all of this, I don't think mcu Strange really knew how to do it. It was Vision who realized Wanda could do it, but he literally had the mind stone as his mind. That's kind of a cheat.
@Paiste2002Fan3 жыл бұрын
One thing I’ve learned in recent years is a lot of people don’t know what a plot hole actually is.
@sean_mccadden3 жыл бұрын
Basically to a lot of people classify plot hole to be a narrative that doesn’t fit inside the “whats expected” box of mainstream media. Just like how fans of alternative music genres always accuse bands of “selling out” whenever they start making music outside the “whats expected” box even if they are just exploring their creativity. In conclusion people are afraid of having their expectations challenged.
@kasuraga3 жыл бұрын
yeah, plot hole would be like some important side character in a film just vanished half way through with no explanation. Indy being useless isn't a plot hole. If anything it's a trope.
@the-engneer3 жыл бұрын
This is so true, and with that being said the bar is dropping lower and lower for film's every year. I can't remember the last time I saw a film even half as memorable as an Indiana Jones re run
@DTX02173 жыл бұрын
“There's a plot hole right there in your own thinking, for you have failed to establish what a plot hole even is, so how could you possibly know whether or not anyone else actually knows what a plot hole is or if they're using the term correctly? Checkmate, know-it-all.” 🙃🤪
@jasonblalock44293 жыл бұрын
Patrick H Willems did a good video on the topic of (not) plot holes a couple years ago, if you haven't seen it.
@Entropic_Alloy3 жыл бұрын
In the second scenario, wouldn't more villains come looking for the first group who had their faces melted off, realized that the Ark did some gnarly shit, and then use it as a weapon? Indy being there prevented it from eventually being picked up by a group looking for the dead Nazis.
@ethancoffey34913 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! This here is a plot hole in nerdstalgics video
@darkmyro3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't they still come looking for the people who died either way in that scenario? Either way a bunch of men went missing wouldnt that mean they send more to either find out what happened or find what them?
@existentialturnip91293 жыл бұрын
That has been my thought exactly since hearing of that stupid quote from that stupid show, kudos for posting it first
@chompythebeast3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't understand how this is being missed. If Indiana hadn't been there and survived, the Ark would still have likely fallen into enemy hands. And it was obviously weaponizable, or at least it certainly seems like it was―just open it in front of an army or a city that doesn't know to look away and you could presumably do a lot of damage
@theskyisteal83463 жыл бұрын
Toosoo but since Indy was there to take Ark away, that troop that stumbles across several piles of melted Nazi doesn't have the Ark waiting for them and all they know is that something was powerful enough and mad enough at the Nazis to wreak that much destruction.
@yipflaptheexecutioner65193 жыл бұрын
I was worried there for a few minutes, but I'm glad this turned out in favor of Indy
@AxxLAfriku3 жыл бұрын
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@issastorm3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku shhhhhh, no one cares
@etherealicer3 жыл бұрын
Yes, hail to the rapist, grave robber and murderer who destroyed more archeological sites than the taliban. Marion: I was a child... it was wrong and you knew it Indy: I did what I did, you don't need to be happy about. According to the script, Marion is 25 in the movie and they had a sexual relationship 10 years before. And yes, Lucas/Spielberg and Kasdan are on record that they purposedly decided that she had to be younger than 16 back when they had the affair. Just saying, him being useless is probably the least troublesom part of that movie.
@xraystudios36933 жыл бұрын
@@etherealicer That's George Lucas' weird fucking side, he can make good stories sometimes, but he always fucks something up. I think if they thought more about this backstory I'm sure they would have changed it. Spielberg himself went against it in a 1978 meeting between him, George and Kasdan. Personally I prefer to simply ignore this because not only it is completely irrelevant to any of the story and its just there to make him and Marrion have an uneasy relationship for about 2-3 minutes, but also because it doesn't fit Indy's character. I consider it as a deleted scene.
@Ironworthstriking3 жыл бұрын
@@AxxLAfriku they’re worse than you can possibly imagine.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un3 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones... only a true badass can survive an atomic blast in a fridge
@red_TORITO3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit it's kim Jong-un!
@TheRealJackArthur3 жыл бұрын
Of all the people to comment about nuclear warheads... 😂
@asdasd-ty9se3 жыл бұрын
We don’t talk about the one that didn’t happen
@ziero19863 жыл бұрын
@@asdasd-ty9se Still better than Temple of Doom.
@megashark10133 жыл бұрын
@@ziero1986 Thank God someone mentioned how bad Temple of Doom was. Nostalgia is a powerful thing, but Jesus.
@lordbritannic3 жыл бұрын
Indy saved the girl and got the ark back to the government for safe keeping. thats two things that the plot needs him for. 3 if you count making his son.
@dorisbove22103 жыл бұрын
Are you serious people like you are always so annoying. Indiana Jones never saved marion, indiana Jones did nothing but bring danger and trouble let alone Nazi's straight to marion and her bar and in fact it is marion ravenwood who shoots and killed nazi's and saved indiana Jones life over and over again so really why don't you watch and talk about the really movie not your fan fiction
@lordbritannic3 жыл бұрын
He told her to keep her eyes closed. There by saving her. He also saved her after she was kidnapped.
@ZombieBarioth3 жыл бұрын
@Doris Bove The Nazi's more likely than not would have eventually tracked Marion down looking for the medallion, if it wasn't for Indy she would have had to deal with them all on her own. Being caught up in his antics actually increased her odds of survival and in a roundabout way saved her life.
@xraystudios36933 жыл бұрын
@@dorisbove2210 Fan fiction? Indy saves Marion who was obviously going to be killed back in the raven bar. Indy saves Marion about 4 times and maybe even more (raven bar, once in Cairo, on in the well of souls and one at the end of the movie when he tells her to close her eyes), while Marion saves him twice. And yes he is right, Indy is responsible for giving the ark to the US, as the Nazis would have sent another team to recover the ark after the first stopped communicating.
@johnwotek38163 жыл бұрын
@@dorisbove2210 "Indiana Jones never saved marion" Last time I checked, nazi were about to burn her face with a hot piece of metal, until Indy showed up and stopped them. "indiana Jones did nothing but bring danger and trouble let alone Nazi's straight to marion and her bar" Nazi would have eventually tracked her down, since she had a crucial element to find the ark. Without Indy, she would have been killed and the nazi would have the full medaillon, with all the intel needed about the height of the stick. Which mean they would have found the ark by themselves. They would have opened it, killed everyone present at the ceremony, then the ark would sat there for a while, until the nazi sent someone to check why the whole place wasn't responding... then taken the ark back, leaving open the possibility they finally control it one day, or adding to the long list of archeological artefact destroyed by the nazi during the war. " in fact it is marion ravenwood who shoots and killed nazi's and saved indiana Jones life over and over again" They kinda spend their whole time saving each other. They both kicked ass.
@ASCARNAZ3 жыл бұрын
Remember, the Germans found the ark because the spy guy got the medallion burned into his hand, the side that said the location. But the side of the medallion that talked about the ceremony needed to open the ark wasn't burned into his hand. Without Indiana Jones, the Germans get the full medallion and know about the ceremony and location, they win
@lunaranz87653 жыл бұрын
Technically, they didn’t even know the location of the Ark in the first place. Because their staff was the wrong height
@joshwokojance37903 жыл бұрын
@@lunaranz8765 this. Indy was the one who found the ark because he knew the correct length of the staff. The Nazis were digging in the wrong place and only found it because they saw Indy's team digging in another place.
@markchapman68002 жыл бұрын
@@joshwokojance3790 But, as @Gaming the Wolf already pointed out, the Nazis would have known the correct length to make the staff if they'd had the whole medallion rather than just the scar on Toht's hand, and they would have had that if Indy hadn't been there to stop them from murdering Marion and grab it.
@jamescampbell392 жыл бұрын
@@markchapman6800 Historically according to the Bible you could not touch the ark unless you were wearing special ceremonial clothing and those who were the priest were of the tribe of Levi IE Leviticus there line was the hereditary priest who to care of the ark transported it and when need be protected it. There was about as much historical accuracy in the movie that would not fill a flea's codpiece. It was not Hitler who sent out expeditions to look for such things it was Josef Gerbels the propaganda minister and leader of the Arminuber the Nazis' Scientific Division. Hitler hated the occult and Christianity he considered one a crutch and the other a weakness Gerbels wanted the grail and the ark to use as symbols for his Aryan knightly order based on the Teutonic Knights. Tanis had been discovered in the late 19th century so that part was total bunkum about the Nazis finding Tanis Getting back to the ark those two soldiers who removed the lid would have been electrocuted or struck dead on the spot and Bellouq doing the ritual nothing would have happened since he was not of the line of Levi and anyhow the only time a ritual was performed was when the priest sprinkled blood on the two cherubims also known as the mercy seats for someone sin penance and it had to be animal blood lambs or birds that sort of thing according to Judaic history.
@FedoraMark3 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Indy’s arc in the first film related to him actually believing the religious stuff? When Marcus visits his house he calls it mumbo jumbo but by the end he makes sure he and Marianne both keep their eyes shut because of the dangers.
@samuelwallace27823 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing is that technically Temple of Doom takes place before Raiders, so Indy is spouting off about superstitious mumbo-jumbo. Meanwhile he saw a man's heart get ripped out of his chest and the magic Stones bring life back to a village only a few years prior
@JainaSoloB3123 жыл бұрын
@@samuelwallace2782 Hahaha, that's awesome
@anrick13623 жыл бұрын
@@samuelwallace2782 I hate that. Temple could have easily been written as taking place in between Raiders and Crusade. I see no good reason for it to be a prequel.
@FedoraMark3 жыл бұрын
@@samuelwallace2782 now that’s the REAL plot hole
@elijahblechman86333 жыл бұрын
Better safe then sorry.
@flappypancake853 жыл бұрын
I think the movies are more about the adventures of Indiana jones rather than whether or not he's a vital piece to the puzzle
@nenmaster52182 жыл бұрын
I random-recommend Hbomberguy, cause why not? He's the best social commentary i know and i know a lot of youtubers. Oh, and just throwing in Sci Man Dan cause why not. He's fun.
@AndaraBledin3 жыл бұрын
But: "They're digging in the _wrong place."_ Calling Marion an "innocent woman" is rather reductive. She was the holder of the medallion that was the head of the Staff of Ra, after all. Indy didn't lead the Nazis to her, but rather *they led him.* He didn't put her in harm's way; her father did, and she stayed there by her own agency. While she _might_ have been able to keep the medallion out of their hands, Indy's presence when they attacked ensured that they only had half of the inscription. Scenario 2 would have them having both sides of the medallion, and they would have had the same warning about not viewing it's contents as Indy did and thus, _wouldn't_ have melted. Most people arguing that this swashbuckler hero in this swashbuckling movie isn't necessary have forgotten a few key scenes and pieces of dialogue.
@neskyz42592 жыл бұрын
Boy, you said it! Anyone who claims Indy was “useless” or “pointless” truly doesn’t understand the concept of the movie.
@KS-cz9qc3 жыл бұрын
“He’s just a plot device. He’s meant to be expendable.” “Not to me.”
@awookieandagerman3 жыл бұрын
This reference was an unexpected surprise, but a welcome one.
@justc1re6173 жыл бұрын
Yes but we need a badass hero to view the story through.
@tobybartels84263 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's not that he drives the plot, he's the guy that the plot happens to. He's the badass everyman.
@issastorm3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't exactly call him a hero, but yes we need a bad ass to view it through
@PhantasmPhoton3 жыл бұрын
the ass and how good or bad it is, is very important
@CaptainMarvelsSon3 жыл бұрын
If the ark was found, every person on Earth who opened it would probably die, including people who had no idea what it was in the first place. At least with Indy, it was found, shipped to a warehouse and studied by "top men" who likely also eventually died due to curiosity.
@nenmaster52182 жыл бұрын
I random-recommend Hbomberguy, cause why not? He's the best social commentary i know and i know a lot of youtubers. Oh, and just throwing in Sci Man Dan cause why not. He's fun.
@cegalo123 жыл бұрын
This kind of reminds me that all main villains kill themselves in Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy
@DTX02173 жыл бұрын
**anxiously starts pondering whether the villain in Doctor Strange 2 is going to end up offing himself in like manner also**
@exeggutivejudge37473 жыл бұрын
Did Sand-man die in Spider-man 3??
@cegalo123 жыл бұрын
@@exeggutivejudge3747 He wasn’t a villain. He was more like... a man with bad luck:(
@SWAHswah-tm7sn3 жыл бұрын
@@exeggutivejudge3747 no he just let him self be taken into the wind
@DTX02173 жыл бұрын
Exeggutive Nehemiah, no. But he ultimately wasn't the main villain. Peter forgives him and lets him off the hook. But Brock kills himself, and if that's not good enough for you, Harry dies in the fight (for good measure, I suppose).
@johnjim77013 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones is such a good character because ultimately he's a human being. Throughout all four movies he often shows his vulnerable side. We all like Indy because he feels real. Maybe he doesn't have the biggest impact in series but in real life when we do something good, do we always end up winning?
@baronvonbeandip3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the argument is the same one as "We all die so life is pointless." Like, yeah, you're right. But what you do with the interiim is the point of the exercise.
@slothbaby21043 жыл бұрын
Indy will always be my favorite screw up action hero He was my childhood hero as a little kid
@nenmaster52182 жыл бұрын
Really? Your favorite? Of all? Well, anyhow, topic-switch: I random-recommend Hbomberguy, cause why not? He's the best social commentary i know and i know a lot of youtubers. Oh, and just throwing in Sci Man Dan cause why not. He's fun.
@AverytheCubanAmerican3 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones watching this: *Nerdstalgic, why did it have to be Nerdstalgic?*
@johnnyc26393 жыл бұрын
He saved Marian's life. If he wasn't there, she would've been melted.
@saraschu27353 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones is also a mediocre at best archeologist even for the 1930s and 40s. He doesn't document, excavate, or photograph the objects. Everything he finds gets confiscated by the US gov (not how it works here) and its definitely illicit artifact trafficking
@lunaranz87653 жыл бұрын
He’s a grave robber with a degree in archaeology. Even Harrison Ford points that out
@ericoffill36973 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting one crucial element: Marion. Indy goes to Marion because her father, his mentor, Abner Ravenwood was the leading expert on the ark. She is the one with the medallion and it would have been only a matter of time before Belog would have tracked her down (Indy just sped that up). Had Indy not gotten involved, Marion would have been killed either in the bar by creepy glasses guy or even worse. So NO, Indy wasn't ENTIRELY useless. Just MOSTLY useless.
@lunaranz87653 жыл бұрын
Belog? I think it’s Belloq (not trying to be rude, sorry if it comes across that way)
@dylananderson3103 жыл бұрын
In fairness, Marian insists on going with Indie. “YOU NEED ME INDIANA JONES! YOU NEED ME!”
@dorisbove22103 жыл бұрын
That is because indiana Jones caused marion ravenwood' s bar to burn down along with all her money so marion yelled to indiana Jones until I get back my $5,000 you got more then you bargained for I am your God Dam partner so marion had no choice but to go with indiana Jones so it is indiana Jones fault
@ghost-maid31743 жыл бұрын
@@dorisbove2210 he didn’t burn it on purpose he was protecting her from the nazis when the fight caused the fire
@Rikalonius3 жыл бұрын
@@dorisbove2210 If Indy hadn't been there, Marion would have been slowly and painful murdered by Todt.
@Lev7823 жыл бұрын
10 year old me: Finds out Santa isn’t real when I find the roll of gift wrap in my parents’ room 23 year old me: Finds out my childhood hero was useless through a Nerdstalgic video
@MrGeekFreek3 жыл бұрын
In Temple of Doom Short Round could have saved those kids all by himself.
@blakdeth3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Rhort Round did most of the work. Although I doubt he would have wound up in the middle of India though if Indiana hadn't brought him onto the plane. But I think we can all agree that Willie is a waste of space.
@DTX02173 жыл бұрын
tommy flores Yeah, but a _SEXY waste of space._ 😛
@akselevensen27633 жыл бұрын
I recently rewatched temple of doom and I now love it in the same way i love the room. It's hilariously bad.
@blakdeth3 жыл бұрын
@@akselevensen2763 what do you mean. The only bad thing about it is how annoying willie is... and how inaccurate their depiction of india is... and the actor who plays short round isn't experienced enough to take emotional scenes seriously... and the scene where indy and willie are flirting is bad... and it opens with a musical number that doesn't serve the plot at all. Actually yeah i get your point. I still love it for nostalgic reasons though.
@akselevensen27633 жыл бұрын
@@blakdeth Yeah, don't get me wrong. It's still fun to watch. It's just that now, when Mola Ram fights Indy and escapes through a trapdoor that has no reason for being there, I get to lose my shit laughing.
@maxpennington55793 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest flaw in this theory is the endgame, while he may be useless for the near entirety of the movie, he is the reason the Ark is recovered from the Germans. Without Indy they keep the Ark, presumably giving them the invincibility. (Supposing they learn to not crack it open)
@iaxacs38013 жыл бұрын
This video encapsulates why I love Indiana Jones so much and why it bugs the hell out of me when characters don't have true flaws that end up with actual consequences.
@leventefaludi31223 жыл бұрын
Me* reading the title *... and I took that personally.
@mendelevium27683 жыл бұрын
To quote Kreia, "It matters not the destination, what matters is the journey."
@thetwopointslow3 жыл бұрын
Pure pazaak.
@The_Pronato3 жыл бұрын
If Indy wasn't there, they would've flewn out the arc with the plane, most likely directly to germany, where Hitler would've wanted to personally oversee the opening So... Indy saved Hitler
@richardscott54223 жыл бұрын
OK, but Indy recovers the Ark after the Nazis open it. This is no small thing, because if a casual bypasser found it and opened it, they'd have their heads melted or something. He was sent to recover the Ark, and he did.
@xraystudios36933 жыл бұрын
The only reason Indy is "useless" in Raiders is because he refused to blow up the ark. And even then, the reason why the Nazis didn't send more people to recover the ark is because Indy called the US forces after the Nazis died to transport the ark back to the US. Also, the point of the movie isn't the end, it's the adventure, that's why it's 1 hour and 40 minutes long and not a 20 minute video with the last minutes of the story.
@lovelyldragon33822 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones is a staple of my childhood. To me it’s doesn’t matter if he is useless- what matters is that he has heart. There is something inherently charming about a teacher going on crazy adventures. I think everyone has had that one teacher who has told them crazy stories about his or her life and you always wanted to hear more.
@madmartigan213 жыл бұрын
This Book is Full of Spiders (the sequel to John Dies at the End) has David talking about his girlfriend saying, "she pointed out to me that if Indiana Jones had just stayed home, Raiders of the Lost Ark would have turned out exactly the same way-the Nazis would have opened the ark and gotten vaporized." The book was released a year before this episode of the Big Bang Theory.
@j.e.h.6483 жыл бұрын
Actually after the Ark gets opened Indie calls the american army witch recovers the ark. If he wasn’t there the Ark would have been opened, a german regiment dies, the german army would look up what happened and recover the ark and maybe win the war?
@Fnaffan20043 жыл бұрын
And that's why I love Indy so much he's no superhero he's a human he's flawed and most importantly he's relatable
@psychicjellyfish94663 жыл бұрын
Here before the title changes. Also this argument has always been interesting to me but I’ve always despised talking about it because I originally heard it from the Big Bang Theory, which I Dislike.
@moonlghtknght3 жыл бұрын
The problem with this idea is at the end of the movie, the Not-zees still have control of the Ark rather than Indy taking it back to the US. Also, the baddies would have found Marion, likely killed her, and taken the headpiece and found the Ark faster.
@laurocoman3 жыл бұрын
If this was made today, everyone would be complaining about it. "This renders the character completely useless, he doe not drive the plot forward, he doesn't defeat the villain" That part of the audience needs the protagonist to do everything, and when he does, they complain the peotagonist didn't have a good supporting cast because he did everything.
@HamsterMaster83 жыл бұрын
If I've learned anything over the last few years, it's that a lot of people don't really know what a plot hole is.
@Richard_Nickerson3 жыл бұрын
I have loved Raiders and Last Crusade for as long as I can remember. John Williams is absolutely the reason I'm a musician and composer.
@AaronEllisOfficial3 жыл бұрын
That's what I love about Indiana jones. Even the he starts a snowball effect, he is a regular guy trying to satisfy his natural curiousity and/or trying to stop evil. Yes his actions often make matters easier for the bad guys in the long run, but for us the viewers, and for Indy, it's not always about the result. Its about the adventure and the journey. You see indy pretty much always trying to do what is right. He may grumble about it, but his moral compass is still on point. In a way, Indy is a super simple protagonist, yet at the same time he is a very deep complex character. And thats one of the reasons the Indy films hold a special place in my heart.
@CasualShinji3 жыл бұрын
If Indy had never intervened the nazis would've gotten a hold of Marion's medalion, resulting in them NOT digging in the wrong place and finding the Ark perfectly fine without Indy's help. So right there this criticism already falls apart.
@dorisbove22103 жыл бұрын
No your wrong the Nazis followed indiana Jones to marion in fact the Nazi's were on the same plane as indiana Jones so it's indiana Jones fault they he lead them to marion and the medallion
@jamescampbell392 жыл бұрын
Even if they got the medallion Bellouq or anyone else for that matter could not have touched the ark much less activate it only those of the tribe of Levi could activate its powers and those that transported it had to wear special clothes and gloves an incident mentioned in Joshua if memory serves was of a chap walking beside the wagon the ark was placed on it started to slip off and he reached up touched and got struck dead for his trouble. So in the movie all the money spent for the dig would have been a big nothing burger Lucas Spielberg and whoever else wrote the script should have read their World War 2 history first. I don't think that beyond Indy studying with Ravenwood and Geshultkin a 15 or 16-year-old girl Marion when he was 28, was about as much back story they had on him. So all the YOUNG Indiana Jones adventures had not been thought of and so a more legitimate and dare I say realistic reason for Indy going after the ark would have made sense.
@yahela4873 жыл бұрын
So... its the same thing as in uncharted where nate always make the bad guy find the secret treasure
@timseguine23 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mean Nate from Uncharted basically is a reimagining of the Indiana Jones archetype.
@pcm10113 жыл бұрын
Nate is a combination between Indy and Lara Croft, which is kinda ironic bc Uncharted then became the main influence for the Tomb Raider reboot. Full circle
@timseguine23 жыл бұрын
@@pcm1011 Yeah, totally. I remember some people calling it "Dude Raider" when it first came out. Then when the Tomb Raider reboot came out years later, people were like "This plays a lot like Uncharted". It's like, no shit Sherlock, of course it does.
@alexanderh96423 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's almost the exact same, and both of them are better than their villains in the same way too. The villains in these two instances are always working to exploit whatever is going on. Be it a weapon or immeasurable wealth or just straight power. Indy is doing it for Fortune and Glory, so he says, but its really for knowledge and the thrill of it. If it was really fortune, he wouldn't be a teacher. Drake is also looking for fortune and glory, but always fails not because he's bad but because he knows not to go to far. He takes what he can, but never more than that
@emmagrove64912 жыл бұрын
The whole point of the film is that Indy is only a hair removed from Belloq and just as foolhardy in his quest. What saves him in the end is realizing saving Marion is more important, and then having the reverence to not look at the ark. He's the only guy in that whole group to have figured that out.
@the-engneer3 жыл бұрын
If you let The Big Bang Theory ruin a movie for you You need to really reevaluate yourself
@cinemagoose3 жыл бұрын
In the second instance, it might have taken longer for the villains to find the ark. Then, the time would cause something different to happen, such as maybe hitler opening the ark with them. In any case the outcome would be different without Indy
@jasonblalock44293 жыл бұрын
Doubtful. Belloq would have almost certainly been the Nazis' lead archaeologist either way, and he was quite insistent on the test run before shipping it to Berlin.
@cinemagoose3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonblalock4429 yes but there might have been more people, even officials, present without the threat of a crazy guy with a bullwhip.
@formallyknownasj.a.20742 жыл бұрын
Im glad you stated “Raiders isn’t the Ark’s journey, it’s Indy’s”. The whole time I watched this, that’s all I was thinking. The Ark, whether Indy was involved or not isn’t what matters, it’s Indy’s adventure that’s the main focal point.
@Zett763 жыл бұрын
As an archeologist, he suceeds in retrieving the Arch, hence proving it exists. Without him, the Arch would either not be found, or lost (again) on that island, OR it gets retrieved by more cautious Nazis after all the events on the island.
@cthellis3 жыл бұрын
Actually in Part 2, the Nazis find the Arc, but they aren’t pressed or harried, they have plenty of time to bring the Arc where they want, and they can spend the rest of the war testing it and trying to gain access to the powers. They might be able to, at which point they could win the war. Indy’s presence at the final encounter allows him to recover the Arc and bring it back for storage and hiding in the US. While that’s not directly conveyed by the movie, that is certainly the consequence. No Indy, no Marion, no one to stop the Nazis from working their wiles on a recovered Arc. They can burn a few thousand dudes to try to figure it out.
@ThatRipOff3 жыл бұрын
I feel like we're all forgetting a very important Third Outcome: Indy doesn't look for the Ark. The Nazis find it anyway, just slower. They open it, and all die. But wait... the higher-up just got word that the Ark was found, and then nothing... So they send in a second team to see what's up. Since the TOP MEN weren't around to retrieve the Ark, the second team find it along with everybody's corpses, and decide to treat it more carefully. They take it back to headquarters, and figure out how to use it safely with a bit of experimentation. Congratulations, the Nazis now have a fully-weaponized Ark Of The Covenant. All because Indiana Jones decided to stay at the university, and never lead the good guys to retrieve the Ark.
@joshuastoaac95723 жыл бұрын
Didn't the ark swallow the bodies in flames?
@francibrasilis3 жыл бұрын
In Raiders, Indyvgets the girl and gives the government what they asked him for. In Temple of doom he doesn't get to keep the stones but he gets the girl and saves the slave children. In Last Crusade, doesn't save the girl who is bad anyway but he finally reconciles with his father, who finally gets his priorities straight: he choses his son's life over the mcguffin that made him neglect him. In Crystal Skull, he gets the girl back, saves her father and develops a relationship with his son (there may be more, In don't remember, this movie lacks the "rewatchability factor" of the rest of the series). Plus, he is great at surviving and has a lot of adventures to tell his grandsons (in the TV show, I guess).
@jamesedward36193 жыл бұрын
If Indiana Jones had stayed at the university in "Raiders", Marion would have been killed by the Nazis, the Nazis would have found the Ark, and even though it would have killed them all when they opened it, then it would have remained in that deserted location where they opened for just anyone else to stumble upon rather than being safely returned to the United States and boxed up in storage where it can neither cause more trouble nor fall into the wrong hands. Indy was very integral to a more positive solution in "Raiders".
@KastaRules3 жыл бұрын
It's about the JOURNEY, Not the destination.
@joylesstiger3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he doesn't really affect the story, or arguably negatively so isn't a glitch, it's a feature. It's subversion of expectation, which is part of what makes it great.
@danielmuckle54563 жыл бұрын
If Indie never left then Marion would most likely have been killed. I think saving her life counts as heroic (although his prior relationship with her certainly isn’t). I also don’t think clambering around a moving truck is what could be defined as “bumbling”. Most of what indie does is far beyond the capabilities of normal people. His intelligence and his bravery are why we find him so endearing, calling him bumbling is absurd.
@Rikalonius3 жыл бұрын
Yup, that was my point. He has a great many skills yet he was putting those skills up against overwhelming odds. He jumped into the Med and rode the outside of a U-boat back to it's sub pen. That alone is a badass. He did outwit the Germans, it was only because of Beloq that anyone noticed what was going, and he was specifically set up as Indy's nemesis from the beginning. No one calls John McClain "bumbling" despite how many failures he had in Die Hard.
@airshipswashbuckler64202 жыл бұрын
Picard said “you can do everything right and still fail--that’s life.” He’s right that is life, but it’s also like Indian Jones: you can do everything wrong and still win. Life is a fickle fish, isn’t it.
@eccentricstate3 жыл бұрын
Background music on this made me think I was getting a call on Teams
@fernandoDcampos3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the opening of the arc is called "Deus Ex-Machina", but is done well, because is actually God changing the curse of the story. There's an article exploring the arc of Indy during the trilogy, and I read it, I went back, and rewatch the movies with that in mind and the all experience is mind-blowing. But is mind-blowing because a character, a fascinating character that evolves during the events of the movies. With 4 movies, Indy evolves more than any MCU character in 10 movies (or another modern blockbuster) but that only happens because Harrison Ford is the biggest special effect of those movies. If Harrison Ford wasn't Indy, maybe Spielberg/Lucas tried something different, but they said that Harrison was allways very concern in transform Indy in a real person - all the injuries, dirt was Harrison Ford ideia and some quotes - the mileage one, an the making this up as I go. He didn't want to play a superhero. Nice video.
@Cuiasodo3 жыл бұрын
My go-to counter for "Indy does nothing in the movie" is "what happens to the arc when it's out in the middle of the desert after the baddies open it?" There's no reason to believe that soldiers didn't have someone in the German army know where they were testing it. Indy being there and surviving insures that the arc gets placed in containment and out of Hitler's hands.
@xProErax3 жыл бұрын
And then he completely changes the title good job man
@username-yc3bd3 жыл бұрын
Without him, Marion would be dead and the Allies would have no idea where the Ark is
@AnimeOtakuDrew3 жыл бұрын
Good video, and I agree entirely on the importance of Indy's journey in Raiders. I do, however, disagree on how things would have played out if he hadn't been present. Yes, the end result would still have been the same with the Nazis burning upon opening the Ark, but how it got to that point would have been different than you have conjectured, and there is only one way it plays out without Indy involved. You see, the only reason the Nazis were digging in the wrong place is because they didn't have the headpiece to the Staff of Ra. All they had was a duplicate made from the image seared into the hand of the man who tried to grab it in Nepal, meaning their duplicate only had writing on one side (the side that was burnt into the guy's hand), so the staff they were using wasn't the right length. In the hypothetical scenario where Indy never goes on this adventure. The Nazi's would still have gone to Nepal to retrieve the headpiece from Marion. Without Indy present, the bar wouldn't have gone up in flames, but the Nazis would have approached Marion and either tortured her until she gave up the headpiece or just killed her and gone through everything she owned until they found it. And remember, she was wearing it as a medallion until Indy showed up asking about it; it was only after that exchange that she took it off and hung it around that candle holder. Without Indy having showed up to ask about it, she would probably still have been wearing it when they interrogated her, so they would definitely have gotten it, and I suspect Marion would have been killed even if she had given it up. With the true headpiece, the Nazis would have found the Ark sooner, and Belloq, in his hubris, would still have insisted upon opening it before delivering it to Berlin, thus all of those Nazis would have burned. But I guess even the end result is different, as in this scenario Indy isn't present to secure the Ark after what happens, so rather than being safely locked away in a top secret warehouse, it would just be sitting on a random Mediterranean island waiting for whatever hapless fool stumbles across it next. So, even though the end result for the Nazis is the same, Indy's presence was VERY important for anyone would visit that island later on.
@jond7972 Жыл бұрын
Marion is the one who decided to come with him. He didn't put her in harm's way. That's my biggest gripe about this video, but solid logic. I like the video a lot. I'm always looking for Indiana Jones video essays or theory videos.
@AlessandroRodriguez3 жыл бұрын
why did you discard path three: "They find the McGuffin, weaponized and win"? Nobody know that a priori......
@jozsefizsak3 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely delightful, uplifting and completely logical analysis. Thank you so much!
@radagast72003 жыл бұрын
Just wait until you learn how old Marianne was when Jones first 'encountered' her... Jones is a child abuser, according the script. Learning this killed the whole franchise for me... what was Spielberg thinking...
@the-engneer3 жыл бұрын
@@radagast7200 what are you talking about?
@shadowpat8103 жыл бұрын
@@radagast7200 you are thinking too much bro
@radagast72003 жыл бұрын
@@the-engneer indy abused Marianne when she was like 13 and he was like 26. Do the math... "I was just a child!" she tells him.... her character is 23 in the movie... this happened 10 years prior... its all laid out in the script itself, you just have to pay attention.
@the-engneer3 жыл бұрын
@@radagast7200 I feel like you're putting more thought into a fictional character than the person who created it
@joshliam19673 жыл бұрын
I want to lay out another possible scenario: The Nazis find Marion and her medallion, then without Indiana there to stop them they use it to find the Ark and take it to the island to open. Everyone there dies, but then...the Nazis have been told where the group was taking the Ark and retrieve it, now knowing exactly how powerful it is and maybe can even study it like Indiana wanted the U.S. to do. This is where Indiana makes a fundamentally important impact on the story where him and Marion take the Ark back to the U.S. instead of it eventually ending up in the hands of the Nazis in this hypothetical scenario. We could say that Marion survives this scenario and takes it herself, but she was also told by Indiana to keep her eyes shut and without that advice she most likely dies. In effect, everything up until the end would be very similar, but I don't think the narrative that nothing changes if he's taken out of the story is accurate.
@SirEdwardeight3 жыл бұрын
Indy saves Marion, who would have been killed by the nazis otherwise. This even adds up to the normal guy experience: He doesn't save the world, he saves the ones he loves; this is what makes a hero.
@JonatasMonte3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that also how the movie starts? When he gets the golden item, it still gets taken by another guy. He literally helps him acquire it.
@natyinthehouse3 жыл бұрын
If all the Nazis die when the ark is opened, then no one is there to hide it in any form. Someone else can stumble upon the ark. So Indiana Jones’ role is to prevent anyone from using it again. He fails at stopping the bad guys from getting it, but he saves the day that could have happened when someone else opened the ark.
@SpitfiretheCat163 жыл бұрын
Indy is just straight up, the audience. No, his presence doesn't change the outcome of the narrative. But without him, there wouldn't _be_ one. Not only is he a Keanu-like figure to project one's fantasies on, as the the viewpoint character of the story, the person we're supposed to relate to whose lens we're experiencing everything, he _is_ the movie.
@Colter_3 жыл бұрын
You're completely omitting that Indy saved Marion's life. The Germans knew about Abner Ravenwood possessing the headpiece they required. Having learned of his death (most likely), they turned to his daughter, Marion. If it wasn't for Indy intervening, she would have been tortured/killed for the medallion. In doing so, Indy also caused the Germans to only have on side of the headpiece (Toht's burned hand) and therefore kept them from finding it. Indy then tried to go under their nose to find the Ark, and unluckily got exposed. All the while Marion got captured and Jones was forced to make a terrible choice. His (former) lover or the Ark. The story is more about Indy, his relationship with Marion and him being forced to choose between her and the Ark. That's how Belloq also convinces him not to destroy it. Because he wants to see it open too. So, yes it's more about the adventure and Indy then about the Ark, but I don't believe Indiana Jones was factually irrelevant to the overarching narrative.
@jacobwerman10083 жыл бұрын
The movie is called Raiders of the Lost Ark. The "Indiana Jones and the..." part was added after sequels came out. The movie is about all of the raiders, it's just through Indy's point of view.
@scottEhall33 жыл бұрын
Nazis would not have found the ark without Indy -> Indy leads Nazis to the ark -> Discovery of ark leads to Nazis dying Now THAT'S an accomplishment.
@philbattiste9649 Жыл бұрын
I think we also have the benefit of saying "Indy's actions didn't matter" because we've seen the movie all the way through. As of the beginning, there is literally nothing to indicate that the Ark would just kill all the Nazis. All we know is that the Ark has religious and historical importance and the Nazis are getting close to it. Sometimes we nitpick things because we forget that hindsight is 20/20 and it's a lot harder to see clearly ahead in the moment.
@marktodd61873 жыл бұрын
I agree that Ark isn't the point. Indy fails at his initial objective in every film except where his human motivations are concerned. He fails to obtain the ark, but he saves Marion from Toht, and from dying at the end of the film. He fails achieve "fortune and glory" in ToD, but he returns the stone to its rightful owners along with the children of the village. In Last Crusade, he succeeds at rescuing his father, but fails to get the grail in the end. In KotCS it goes the same way. He rekindles his relationship with Marion and gain a son, losing the skull or any proof of its existence along the way. In all four films the MacGuffins were just fancy redirections. The real point was Indy's relationships and his impact on people.
@RipsharkTV3 жыл бұрын
Random Request. Talk about why The Raid's fighting choreography holds up so well compared to other Martial Arts films of its kind. Would be cool to see you talk on Martial Arts anything. Doesn't have to be that
@apurvchandola9923 Жыл бұрын
I think you are missing one big point here. The movie is about Indiana Jones wanting to find a lost historical artefact that has great significance for him and archeology, his one true love. It is about Indy's adventure and we follow his journey as the fearless yet humane action hero whose single point focus is to find the arc. In fact, no one knows what the arc would do if it is opened so it doesn't matter if Germans found it and opened it. In the end, Indy found it and served his clear external goal. Once again, the movie is about Indy's quest and not German or Belloq's adventure.
@Zack-xv2yc3 жыл бұрын
This feels more like something on Film Theory than a Nerdstalgic video. Honestly, I'm not complaining.
@ThePete10813 жыл бұрын
But Indy wasn't a professor of heroism. He was an archeologist. And he was amazing at it throughout the whole movie, from the intro to him finding the arc in the middle of a Nazi camp. Maybe if the US government didn't want the arc found, they shouldn't have sent the greatest finder of things?
@pieterboelen28623 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is truth. And it may just be the #1 reason why I LOVE THIS GUY! Those Marvel characters aren't heroes. *Indiana Jones* is a hero. A REAL hero!
@markalexander7743 жыл бұрын
For Raiders of the Lost Ark: Had Indiana Jones not been present, the Nazis would find the ark, open it, and then die, and then another group of Nazis would have come by later and taken the ark back to Berlin, whereupon it would have eventually been found by the Soviets in 1945, and then taken to a Soviet secret warehouse instead of an American one. So Indiana Jones prevented the ark from ever being in Berlin and later Moscow. For Temple of Doom: I honestly only saw this one a couple times because I thought it was by far the worst one. So I don't really remember the plot points enough to judge it. For the Last Crusade: It is questionable how necessary he was toward finding the location of the grail, it is likely that the Nazis might have found it via his father and Marcus anyway, but in the last scene, he makes it passed all of the traps and chooses the correct grail. This is something that would have taken the Nazis a lot longer to do on their own. And they would have likely all died when the place collapsed if they did end up finding the correct grail and tried to take it out. SO in essence, Indiana Jones saved his father and Marcus, both of whom would have likely been killed by the Nazis at some point had he not been there. For the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: I never actually saw it.
@AdamJasper183 жыл бұрын
Path one: Marion acts like Marion when the Nazi's show up and is tortured and likely killed by the Nazi's who then take the talisman. The Nazi's locate, dig up and take the ark to their secret island where they open it and all die. The ark remains on this hidden island until other Nazi's show up wondering what took them so long and find scorch marks indicating what happened. The Nazi's take the ark back to Germany where they study it and likely use it in some way as a weapon to help them win the war.
@cess40893 жыл бұрын
Ugh! He was never supposed to. The whole point was he was a lover of history and he was witnessing history as an active participant but, He was never meant to change it. I thought that was obvious.
@AshCosgrove3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the true Indiana was the Jones we made along the way.
@mentalpopcorn23043 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a story happens in the world around the protagonist, other times the story is character based. Sometimes both. Indiana jones is a medium to experience the journey, and finds the real secrets while getting away alive. Whether it changes anything is irrelevant, Indy is a fun charismatic character for the viewers. I was never a mega fan of the movies, but I feel like the most important thing to take away from all of this, is that it's a story.
@Sponguin3 жыл бұрын
Wait I'm sorry. You have a P5 desktop background and you have yet to make a P5 video? I would absolutely love to see something in your style breaking down that game. Great video, this was a wonderful way to frame it!
@whtbobwntsbobget3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. People forget, prime time Harrison Ford isnt a Schwarzenegger style action hero. He's an everyman.
@less_likely3 жыл бұрын
Not only did Indy not save the world, but his actions indirectly allowed WW2 to happen. Would Belloq have opened the ark if Indiana hadn’t stolen it back? Nope. It was being shipped directly to Germany, unopened, and Belloq was not pleased. Only because Indy intervened, stole it, and shipped it out on a cargo ship were they in the Mediterranean Sea when the Nazis recovered the ark a second time, but only had a U-Boat and needed to transfer it to a proper ship to continue on. Belloq was then able to take control of the Ark team on the Greek Island. There he decided to open it before it was shipped off again. If Indy didn’t intervene, the Nazi high command would have been present when the ark was opened in Berlin.
@m1gramme3 жыл бұрын
There is actually one thing Indy did in the journey of the ark. He DELAYED the Nazis from getting it. Toht was already in Nepal and knew that Marion had the piece that gave the location. He was there to retrieve it (and I am convinced would have if Indy wasn't there). Due to the fire he got half of the instructions so they were digging in the wrong place. So even though he led them there he did at least delay them a little while. So good job for wasting Nazi resources.
@Mikeyboyx123 жыл бұрын
One thing Indy does do in Raiders is he's the person who's alive at the Ark after it's opened so he can ensure it goes back to the states, if he wasn't there then it's possible the Nazis would just send more Nazis to collect the ark and figure out a way to use it in the war.
@vulpes61443 жыл бұрын
I agree with the second half, that Indy is likable, human, flawed and such. But no, he wasn't useless: he saved Marion who could have been tortured and even killed by the nazi, he is the one who found the actual location of the Ark, and even thought it fell into the Nazi's hands, he was still attempting to prevent that. And he wouldn't know the outcome without trying so how can he being useless? It is basically saying that trying is useless. The character of Iron Man constantly fails and he was still triumphed at the end. You know which character is useless? Sheldon Cooper: a snob brat that only lives for his needs by steping on others with extreme apathy.
@kashsmith61813 жыл бұрын
That's literally the whole point. It's subversion of the "save the day" movie hero. Also, a plot hole is when something happens in the narrative that contradicts information already established in the narrative. Something not changing the outcome isn't a plot hole. A plot hole would be if Indy had taken a peak in the arc earlier and then later established the "don't look" rule.
@thestarkknightreturns3 жыл бұрын
He does affect the plot. If not for him, the Nazis were digging around Tanis for way longer than necessary, and probably killed (either directly or using them as Cannon fodder for the Well of Souls' traps), exploited or harassed more people than the ones they did. Besides, the American government wouldn't probably store the Ark on Area 51 because they wouldn't have an American attaché to pinpoint its location. In addition, he was able to save Marion in Nepal from Toth and his goons, and made amends with her to a certain degree. Also he gains higher knowledge about the supernatural nature of the Ark.
@AustinPowerz-bn5ry3 жыл бұрын
Indiana Jones is a professor of history and archaeology, he is not a secret agent working for a government agency. He is not on a mission to save the country from terrorists. he is a tough guy nerd trying to preserve his course material.
@hecticnarcoleptic78292 жыл бұрын
By finding the ark for them (assuming they wouldn't find it on their own later, which is a rather large assumption), Indy is responsible for taking out a swath of Nazi VIPs. His body count is better than most in the war, especially considering the value of his kills. The man's a savage.