Indiana Jones And The Destruction Of Legacy

Its finally here, and its just as terrible as we expected. Join me for my full review of Indiana Jones and the Dial Of Destiny.

[@darrendye8313]

I think we could eliminate internet porn if Kathleen Kennedy started directing it.

[@StCreed]

Maybe we should give her to Russia to direct their army.

[@sauzeeee]

If KK directed pr0n, society will strive.

[@Buff_Yoda]

@@StCreedthe Russians have already suffered enough

[@MrWhangdoodles]

Na, there are enough masochists who will always eat the shit that other people leave them.

[@samblack5313]

Exceptional banter!

[@pab1381]

How is Kathleen still in charge?? She’s made so many awful films at this point that there’s no way in hell anybody can just look passed it.

[@MrAdamske]

nepotism

[@sleepteam]

It's not about the money... it's about sending a mESsaGe

[@guilhermehank4938]

She knows where the bodies are hidden

[@DioxJXD]

Because the backlash of firing her would, in their minds, be too great to do. You cant fire the "strong, independent woman whos showing all the men what's wrong with their movies and doing them better."

[@LSB001]

Hollywood is run by the identity politics cult.

[@kathleenramirez2379]

That was one of the angriest “go away now” sign offs ever. Well deserved, Disney.

[@raylopez99]

I thought it was contrived. Seriously. I encourage The Drinker to put more feeling into it, like it's for real.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

GO AWAY NOW: an unbridled rage.

[@yugmi]

My toughts exactly, he's seriously angry now.

[@normadgarmez7026]

Yep.

[@robwalsh9843]

I like how he had a deeply sad "Go away now" for the Rise of Skywalker, replaced now by a severely pissed off one.

[@avinmaharaj8483]

The saddest part is Indy is one of the most revered classic characters, and whilst I felt the reputation was still upheld after Crystal Skull, this movie was an insult to Indy, it would’ve been a fine ending with his marriage to Marion at the end of the last one.

[@RJIS]

I'm impressed with Kennedy's ability for the Indiana Jones series. It took a few years for her to destroy Star Wars, but it only took one movie to fully bury the Indiana Jones series.

[@RJIS]

and i say fully because Crystal Skull was the series getting into a fatal car accident

[@ngoclamtruong5033]

It's really not all that impressive actually, when Last Jedi come out, people still have hope that Lucasfilm could make the next movie better But after many failure, people just don't trust Lucasfilm anymore. Indiana 5 got released by the time Lucasfilm at their worst, so people are already have many doubt about it even before it come out

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Remember that South Park episode where George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg raped Indiana Jones after the premiere of Crystal Skull? Now replaced both of them with Disney and Kathleen Kennedy for this movie.

[@RJIS]

@@ngoclamtruong5033 it was slow, but impressive imo. It takes balls to take something like Star Wars and misuse it constantly to make many crappy movies and shows to the point that Star Wars no longer excites many people.

[@Usul75]

Learning by doing. I guess.

[@thatguybehindtheglass]

It's insane to think that Kathleen Kennedy's entire claim to fame is that she was in the room when some guys were being creative, but here we are.

[@AKUJIVALDO]

Probably when these guys were being creative in Epstein Island...

[@KaelegoSoul]

And both George and Spielberg used to laugh at her ideas Allegedly

[@AKUJIVALDO]

@@KaelegoSoul with how movies under her going, I think they did, for a reason.

[@SarcasticPlotRecaps]

She must have SO MUCH DIRT on these Hollywood execs to still be here 30 years later cranking out money-losing DIRGE! She's like a movie industry version of Ghislaine Maxwell ffs

[@beartrap7158]

Shill don’t believe. Shills are bashing all new releases. There’s more to this then meats the eye..

[@hhfggvogtthehy6451]

Lucasfilm’s ruined every single franchise they get their hands on, and at this point, I support them closing permanently.

[@MarVIogs]

So I forgot to mention: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4u3imSCZrlnrrM

[@MarVIogs]

Permanently.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Nah Disney will just make them a walking corpse

[@Charles-mb6yx]

It’s Disney and their woke culture that destroyed all our great franchises .... Star Wars and now Indiana Jones to name a few... not Lucas film

[@sthubbins4038]

Cancel culture!

[@robscragga]

My son turned me in the cinema when Shaw punched Indy. He said “why did she do that?”. Poor kid, I didn’t have the heart to tell him the truth, nor would he understand.

[@elementalb3m957]

You should have said "Because this movie was produced by a spiteful ugly old bitch" and maybe he'd have understood

[@flarestriker2005]

Helena Shaw was so damn annoying in that movie, I just felt like bashing my skull into the seat infront of me everytime she speaks.

[@MehrdadParthian]

at this point KK's self casting of a young brunette woman in every movie about a male protagonist, is definite proof that she's really salty about her years as a bad looking assistant who's been a side character all her life and now she's out for revenge on... fans ? lol

[@Icetea-2000]

What’s with so many self-insert characters for women these days? This is the type of shit that wouldn’t be excusable as writing after elementary school.

[@therecanbeonly1497]

​@@monotech20.14hahahah and what exactly have you done?

[@SebWill180]

Literally just projecting

[@koreyasher7130]

Hey now…maybe Mono was one of the writers for DoD?

[@Zook85]

​@@therecanbeonly1497people don't need accomplishments to be able to critique.

[@DefinitelyReagan]

For once, that “Go away now.” wasn’t for us. It was for Disney.

[@xuvial1391]

At this point it's hard to say who has done more damage to Lucasfilm....George Lucas himself with the shitty prequels and Crystal Skull, or Disney with the sequels + Dial Of Destiny.

[@zoetropeguardian]

@@xuvial1391 One wanted to tell stories that expanded the scope of what the franchises could be and also expand the medium by pushing it forward. You may not always agree with his choices but there was sincere artistic merit to always try new things that didn't walk all over what came before. They were also very personal in the case of Star Wars as if you know where to look it tells his life story. Temple of Doom too. The other wants to bank on your nostalgia while making safe calculated rehashes that also regress legacy characters. It's not that hard to see the difference as it may seem. Also, don't forget Spielberg was part of making Crystal Skull too.

[@svagglaorde4387]

Yeah, but its mostly for Kathleen K.

[@eternalhistory4706]

@@xuvial1391I plead to disagree with the point on the prequels. The prequels by no way were “shitty films”. Their backstory of anakin skywalker and most of everything else was done perfectly, the only issue the prequels had was George Lucas and his flawed ability of writing dialogue

[@obscure.reference]

@@xuvial1391 really nothing to complain about when it comes to lucas, prequels and crystal skull, though flawed, have intelligent and psychically responsible messaging.

[@Googlesucksballs]

“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made” -J.R.R. Tolkien.

[@writingonthewall3326]

I was proud as punch after I'd been saying this for a while, then I found out it was a Tolkien quote. 😊

[@thaipixie]

@@writingonthewall3326 Its a perfect description of the rabid Marxist feminist matriarchy of incompetence, divisiveness, and hate that has destroyed everything from education to entertainment....

[@ryanwebb5082]

A bit like the far left if you think about it

[@TheWorkmonkey1]

It isn't a Tolkein quote.

[@BladeMcCloud]

This isn't actually a Tolkien quote. It's a paraphrase from TV Tropes.

[@timesnewlogan2032]

Imagine if the film was about Indy and Marion joining Mutt on his own adventure? They'd travel to China in the middle of the Cold War, assisting a contact who turns out to be a grown-up Short Round.

[@borisgamingreal]

Well that wouldn't promote messages of female empowerment, you see. So it's not fit for the modern audience, or something

[@thecoach3577]

It’s funny. That suggestion probably would’ve pissed a lot of people off a few years ago. But at this point, it actually sounds nice.

[@jessewells1671]

Hey now that would have pissed of the CCP for sure so no way lol Take a look at Red Fawn... oh shit I meant Red Dawn 2012.

[@timesnewlogan2032]

@@jessewells1671 Ah yes, the film where North Korea somehow becomes a superpower, and nobody notices?

[@jessewells1671]

@timesnewlogan2032 exactly if they'd have paid attention to the game Homefront they could have gotten it to at least make more sense lol. The funny thing was it was supposed to be China but uhm yeah you could imagine how the CCP felt and no self depreciating production company would let that happen.

[@superglue46]

One of the reasons I absolutely love Top Gun: Maverick is that they didn't make Pete a washed up, depressed husk of a man. They made everything he used to be, but seasoned from experience.. ya know, like a real person.

[@kittyhawk9707]

yeah but we are not on about Top Gun Maverick are we ..so that is pretty fucking irrelevant innit ..jeeze

[@beingsshepherd]

AND fulfilled their propaganda objectives for the military industrial complex. Not bad.

[@superglue46]

@@kittyhawk9707 completely relevant. Contrasting Disney's now trademarked destruction of a beloved character by making him a withered husk of his former self with Paramount's source-material-respecting approach of making him jaded but competent and still able to teach the up-and-comers a thing or three. Or did you just want me to say "Drinkers tone at the end made it clear he's fed up" like half the other people here.

[@superglue46]

@@beingsshepherd you must be a lot of fun at parties.

[@beingsshepherd]

@@superglue46 Rebellion is square now? Is saluting flags cool in your book?

[@noneofyourbusiness1114]

I feel like a character like Indiana Jones wouldn't end up a bitter lonely old man considering his life experience in these franchises.

[@MichaelJM]

I guess killing his son might do that to him but what a terrible, unnecessary, and depressing choice.

[@asleyjen]

He wouldn't - but the powers that be feel compelled to portray White men in any negative light that is humanly possible. No different to the garbage ads where White men are mere buffoons.

[@noneofyourbusiness1114]

@@MichaelJM all because they didn't wanna bring back shia Labeouf

[@0erson-n7q]

​@@noneofyourbusiness1114or cast someone else in his place.

[@MichaelJM]

@@noneofyourbusiness1114 Yeah it's crazy. There's no reason they couldn't just have his adult son living his own life off screen.

[@jonny5777]

Kathleen Kennedy is an inspirational woman. She proves that you don’t have to have any talent, skill, awareness or creativity to still thrive at the top of an industry bravo.

[@han7oee]

Well said!

[@DamienDarkside]

Well if anything, she is showing that "women can do it too!"

[@dallas5832]

Turns out the only skill you need to have is an enhanced sense of entitlement and wokeness.

[@alvinsmith5686]

Ha! Women *drinks coffee*

[@davidrisselada6199]

What is an industry bravo?

[@helmort]

I'm British-Italian, and on both sides of my family (from York in the British side and from the South in the Italian side), I have had grandparents and uncles who lived until they were 100 years old. All of these people, until their last day, were incredibly proud individuals, always full of energy. They were never sad, depressed, or anything like that Indiana Jones character. Beyond my family, I know thousands of elders who have much more energy than me, a bloody millennial who finds it hard to get up from their chair. They were shaped by the Second World War, and they never lost their characteristic pride and energetic lifestyle when facing life. So this notion of old, depressed people like Indiana Jones or Luke Skywalker doesn't hold up at all. Maybe a better script would be an older character who demonstrates much more courage and resilience than a bunch of kids who can only play with their smartphones, myself included. And just because the authors are Americans doesn't mean they should have the idea of "depressed old people," because many of the old Americans I've met are just as hardcore as the European ones. 💀☠💀☠💀

[@Dilmahkana]

I've also seen old people who were full of vitality and were very impressive, it's so heartwarming. And then a tragedy befalls them and they change completely. That happens all the time too. Not everyone is happy-go-lucky. Depression is okay and real.

[@helmort]

@@Dilmahkana I believe that elder depression is influenced by many factors. One common factor is when they feel excluded from society and forgotten by their family and those around them, or when they are treated poorly as if they have been discarded after a lifetime of use. However, if an elderly person remains active by engaging in activities such as playing chess, reading, creating art or small crafts, or taking care of their home, they can maintain their well-being until their last day of life. Perhaps what you're referring to is the fatigue that elderly individuals often experience before passing away, rather than depression. It's been observed that people tend to become sad, tired, and disinterested in interacting with the world as they approach the end of their lives. However, this fatigue is primarily due to a worn-out body, and it differs significantly from the feeling of true depression, where a person feels disconnected from the world, utterly useless, and abandoned by society.

[@Dilmahkana]

@@helmort yup. And I believe Indy felt that... Not a stretch at all. People aren't consistent across time, why should he be?

[@wrecker5300]

Bull. You're just a Disney shill. Go worship your mouse master

[@AdelesingsL]

So true!! I interview patients into their 90’s and they truly inspire me with their optimism, enthusiasm and gusto for life! It’s really so awesome and cool to think, many of them lived happy lives and still enjoy exercising, their spouses and have just a good sense of humor about life. This is what Indiana Jones character should have been. Not weak, futile and naive. How in the world does this tall female know 1/10 the wisdom that he does?! The movie would’ve been better if he taught her a lesson or two. Thank you for your comment!

[@African_Rose]

Indiana jones was a tenured professor for over 30 years and his father was also educated and would have left him a sizeable amount of money after he passed away. How exactly is Indiana jones left broke living in a low rent apartment?

[@sr.alligator7569]

I guess Marion took all of Indy's money after the divorce.

[@swastikbrahma6134]

@@sr.alligator7569 You can't complain about that mate, she got grocery for him, remember?

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

Rich white professor isn’t as relatable as broke white alcoholic professor?

[@marsmarv]

Maybe he misgendered someone and had to pay the lawsuit...

[@Natta44]

Spent all his money on all his expeditions. I mean some of the locations were wild even for a man living in the 1940s.

[@KaplanRobert]

The smug expression that is always on Phoebe Waller's face and the sad, tired face of Harrison Ford, says it all.

[@MarVIogs]

True I guess

[@MarVIogs]

Says it all your right

[@poocrayon4588]

That's how she always is, even in interviews and on the red carpet

[@ModernPict]

it really does

[@Toraryuko]

Is it just me or Fleabag's smug and uppity face seems like it begs to be slapped?

[@NeverSaySandwich1]

At least Crystal Skull gave Indy a satisfying, happy ending to cap stone the series. He married the woman he loved, he has a capable and honorable son to enjoy his life with. This tears it apart

[@tothbence7436]

No way, because it fits the character isn't it? Just think about it. Harrison had a great time making the movie, he wanted to do it. This was a last adventure, and we should take it this way, ofc it's not better than any previous ones, maybe except Crystal Skull.

[@HellopeepsStavros]

More like return to the recliner and fall asleep with the paper on top of you. Your son has forgotten you and your wife died last year. You can't knock the top off of rice pudding never mind hardened criminals. Now that film is called reality.

[@DriveupLife22]

​​@@tothbence7436We should just lie down and accept shitty stories? No thank you.

[@colepratt7538]

@@DriveupLife22bro imma be honest I hate the woke shit in Hollywood as much as anyone but this wasn’t anywhere near as bad as bro made it out to be

[@macethorns1168]

Stop acting like there were more than three Indiana Jones movies.

[@helltoffi2289]

There are only 3 Indiana Jones Movies, 2 Terminator , 2 Alien,1 Predator...

[@JohnnyWordSmith]

“Some men just want to watch the world burn.” Kathleen Kennedy is that man.

[@nemtudom5074]

Manchild more like 😂

[@latina305mami]

😂😂😂

[@TincMetals]

You do mean BRock and VGaurd, right?

[@jackroller8237]

😂

[@christosferizis-synodinos8851]

I enjoyed the movie quite a lot Loved the history

[@specialk1538]

“They’re not creators, they’re destroyers.” So true. I hope this is the movie that gets Kathleen Kennedy fired.

[@Jacques_the_Rooster]

Too late already. The damage is done.

[@SouthoftheHill]

They know exactly what they're doing as to why they're making films like this. It's simply malice.

[@roybatty2544]

That's Marxism for you

[@lqlaliut897]

No, I still want her to execute her vision of rey training other jedi coz i want even more disparu content

[@Sarappreciates]

Kathleen Kennedy likes to GUT heroes of the past. I dunno why or who hurt her, but I'm guessing it was someone who was angry at her purposely breaking their nicest stuff.

[@fuzzo73]

The last shot of this video says it all. The iconic closing of Last Crusade with Indy, his dad and the others riding into the sunset. That's the Indy I will remember. We didn't see him age out, and we didn't need to. He was just Indiana goddamn Jones, whip-toting, snake- hating treasure hunter. Forever.

[@charlesdowda3850]

Fortune and Glory

[@fuzzo73]

@@charlesdowda3850 Thanks to disney, now it's actually both the years and the mileage;

[@joshuafranklin7488]

Henry Jones: calm down Jr. Indiana Jones: stop calling me that!! Indi's friend: what's with this Jr.? Henry: that's his name Henry Jones Jr. Indiana Jones: I like the name Indiana. Henry: we called the dog Indiana. Indi's friend: (laughing) a dog? You named yourself after a dog? (laughing) Indiana Jones: I had fond memories of that dog.

[@RoseJetExhaust]

But this is pure fiction. It's a fantasy, a delusion and story we tell ourselves time and time again, to repress thinking of mortality and death. I like that our childhood Hero's are deconstructed to the point where we see their fragility, because that is what we are. It is grounded in reality.

[@fuzzo73]

@@RoseJetExhaust If that's what you want to get out of it, I can certainly respect that view, and you are correct. Of course it's fiction, that's the whole point, movies are a form of escapism. It's not necessary to see Indy, or Han Solo or some other classic swashbuckling hero, to always be seen later as this downtrodden, sad old man whose life went to shite. Couldn't he just be chilling happily with Marion when adult Short Round shows up to beg for his help rescuing some Chinese artifact for reasons? I'd be right on that. I'm just saying every film doesn't need the harsh reality of life. We've got enough of that already lol.

[@michaeldillon4488]

Don’t forget the German WW2 bomber conveniently hidden at the local airport for the finale.

[@RickMyBalls]

yeah wtf was that

[@Osafune2]

I’m coming to the conclusion that destroying beloved franchises is part of some sort of psychological warfare.

[@matthewrichmond4139]

A good point. It's called a post-modernist and big blockbuster interpretation. Creativity and being daring. What is that?

[@Hcaz1113]

It's the same Marxist from Berlin 1930's doing this.

[@taags]

Its also marxism.

[@sca4789]

Almost as if destroying men was part of a coordinated plan...

[@Osafune2]

@@matthewrichmond4139 I’m being flippant, but the film industry has been used for purposes other than mere entertainment in the past. In the same way we see historical figures smeared, statues toppled etc, I wonder if destroying iconic masculine heroes of the big screen is an extension of the current post-truth western paradigm

[@mozespurpletreemakesmesad5117]

I can't get over the incredibly poignant metaphor of dragging Indiana Jones out of the past, where he was comfortable and wanted to die, into the modern age where he is miserable, soulless, and depressing. If that isn't modern Hollywood I don't know what is.

[@kafukamura]

Bro seemed genuinely happy and satisfied with staying in the past, but then they just had to pull the typical “time travel trope” where changing the past can have dire consequences even though he’s on the brink of death and can’t really do much. I feel so bad for Jones 😢 and I hope that dictator Kathleen Kennedy can soon face consequences for ruining some of the best movie series of all time

[@idnintel]

I watched Raider and the Last Crusade for the second time like two weeks ago. They have aged fine. Action scenes and humor still stands up, which is all that matters for films like these. Indiana Jones is in it's core is like a more heroic take on the basic pulp formula of adventure man going to exotic location to plunder artifacts. Making a film with that kind of formula these days is hard. First of all the Indiana Jones title wasn't passed on when Harrison Ford was young, so the namesake role is attached to an actor who is too old to do actual action scenes. Second, in the current year you have all sorts of harpies screeching about colonialism and racism and what have you if you do a movie about a white guy ransacking ethnic dungeons. And then you have the usual feel of films made by a committee that modern Disney is so notorious of and overabundant use of CGI, which ages a lot less gracefully than properly done scenes on set.

[@getfricked6977]

@@kafukamuraThe sequels weren’t the best thing ever but don’t try to act like Star Wars wasn’t already ruined by the prequels

[@someangrypotato7197]

Having Indy stay in the past would’ve been a history-altering event that could lead to a terrible outcome. And he’s not going to be miserable anymore now that his wife’s back.

[@mozespurpletreemakesmesad5117]

@@someangrypotato7197 tell me the point flew over your head without telling me the point flew over your head.

[@mattjackson7445]

I showed my 7 year old son the Indiana Jones trilogy while he was off school this week with tonsillitis. He loved them and asked if there were any more Indiana Jones movies to watch. I said "no, just the trilogy".

[@IDawgedYou]

I laughed at this…but in a sad way. But glad he loved the trilogy. I still remember leaving the drive-in after Raiders and being in awe.

[@NinjaFlibble]

"anything else with the name is but a sad impersonation" for if he sees any outside the trilogy and asks why you didn't tell him about them ;)

[@Simon-xc5oy]

Good. That was the right thing to do. Like not telling them Santa Clause etc is not real. He will find out in his own time and way. There are only 3 Indy movies. The other two were made years too late and for the wrong reasons and it shows. Your clever white lie means he can enjoy the Indiana Jones stories as we all did back in the 80s without them being ruined. When he is older he can make up his mind if he wants to see the two belated bad films. If he wants more Indy, get hold of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. He will enjoy those and learn something of history and world into the bargain.....without knowing he is being taught and keeping it fun....the best way to educate a child in my book....

[@AdrenalineConcept]

The same way with my boys and star wars. They can discover the wreckage on their own voyage in life. I like the movie magic being there, and that they have a connection to these older films.

[@jackko21]

The kingdom of the crystal skull was actually pretty good. In my opinion, to me, it ended the series perfectly he gets married, and all

[@liamphibia]

The reviews for Diarrhea of Dysentery between Chris Stuckmann and the Critical Drinker are night and day. Stuckmann had little to no problems an issues with this fifth installment at all and barely gets real and critical on how much the film disrespects the titular character among other crappy things. He's no longer the honest reviewer he used to be years ago. Drinker, on the other hand, loves Indiana Jones and you can tell how angry and outraged on how stupid, absurd, and horribly written this 5th installment was. The way they assassinated Indy's character right before his eyes. He show ZERO mercy on this movie!

[@MashyManny1022]

The Indiana Jones franchise ended with The Last Crusade in 1989. Indy, Henry, Sallah, and Marcus rode off into the sunset like legends.

[@climateguy2488]

I’ll die on that hill.

[@kj3n569]

Correct. That was the ending Indy deserved.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

Life is better that way. It just is.

[@thejaegerbomber99]

Asking for a strong female character to have an arc is like asking a modern feminist to be nice to men.

[@Hellothankyou-o1j]

Unless your spider Gwen

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

Impossible, because both require some effort. It it takes effort, it's oppressive and sexist

[@ezrabraman6437]

@@Hellothankyou-o1jikr thank god for spiderverse

[@AdamSmith-kq6ys]

Subject a strong female character to character-building adversity? Absolutely _haram_

[@Tubeite]

The only strong female character with an arc is Joan of Arc.

[@nadilenebudski]

The time travel concept of this movie is FAR more believable than two 70 year olds getting divorced in the 1960's.

[@giantclaw138]

TRUE like where would Marion be, Nepal?

[@jackspring7709]

Lol :D

[@dominysynclair]

Solid observation.

[@IdealUser]

My great grandparents got divorced in their 80's during the 1970's.

[@dominysynclair]

@@IdealUser I don't believe you, but if they did, it was your fault.

[@daveqatsi4580]

this movie makes kingdom of the crystal skull seem infinitely better

[@sublimechimp]

“And they talk about the male ego” 100% !! I actually just saw these movies in a completely new way. They are Kathleen’s fantasy of George Lucas being a wasted old man and her taking his place as a powerful and refreshing female. She must have been building up resentment about not being as good as him over years and years. He was so good and she wasn’t, she couldn’t cope with it. So she imagined herself as perfect and him as a loser, and that’s what we see playing out on screen over and over. These new movies are her psyche forced onto old franchises. Amazing insight Drinker.

[@MarVIogs]

Well said

[@medd1990]

I was asking myself "why?" so many times, especially during the Star Wars sequels. Now it suddenly makes sense.

[@markpettit2990]

Yep..you said it...hit the nail on the head..

[@poocrayon4588]

@@MarVIogs She owes him everything yet gives nothing back. Oh well, I just hope Lucas and Spielberg were dicks for her to work with and had their fun. If they were nice to her then it's doubly fucked up.

[@poocrayon4588]

Makes you wonder if he slapped her butt in 1984 or something

[@EdwardLewisIV]

From a business perspective I'm actually incredibly interested to watch how the next 5 years play out for Disney. They're about to complete implode from self inflicted wounds and I'm here for it.

[@ronel7836]

I dont think that's gonna happen. Maybe it will, but na it won't. disney is one of those companies that can't fail no matter how many shits they can bring out of their arses

[@EdwardLewisIV]

@@ronel7836 it almost went bankrupt in the early 90s and the little mermaid and Lion king basically saved them. That's why I said it will be interesting to watch, because it's a pretty sticky situation and will take some major moves to right the ship.

[@cliverosfield69]

​@@EdwardLewisIVBlackrock will bail it out

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@cliverosfield69 The only way that will happen is if BlackRock can find a way to bail them out using OTHER people's money.

[@mitchellmelkin4078]

​@@cliverosfield69, Why? What purpose does it serve to prop up an entity if it continues to uniformly produce films and series which are, in the main, popularly rejected and don't earn a profit? If the contention is it's for the propagation of disseminating a steady state of indoctrination into whatever malign cabal you may happen to be fixated on, how effective can such propaganda truly be if it's not being watched (repeatedly, at that) by a very large proportion of the pop culture viewing audience?

[@marlz11]

That was the most palpably angst-filled, soul wrenching "Go Away Now" he's ever made. I totally empathize Drinker.

[@bethpasmantier3861]

Agree. I think its because we all loved Indy. And it hurts more to see a franchise trashed when it's a character you loved! The What Ifs are endless.

[@Exalted_Truth]

*He needs a Drink.*

[@fourlights]

I was going to leave the same comment lol, look at the end of his velma review, it was the last time I heard go away now with such gusto.

[@Asghaad]

that wasnt angst, that was "go away or i might cave in your skull" pure rage

[@mr.hannibal2072]

"soul wrenching 'go away now!'" is what I walked away with also. There was quite some pinache in that summary which was ultimately liberal Hollywood's report card which is a fail on a 15-point grading scale (the same one North Carolina uses).

[@tuttuttut7758]

Dungeons and Dragons was great fun. Really unexpected. That movie deserved much better

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

That movie was garbage too

[@DraculaCronqvist]

Amazing. They gave Indiana Jones the Luke Skywalker treatment. After they saw how that went down, the horrific backlash, they really thought "yeah, let's do that again!". W A T

[@Ninja_Koopa]

It's done on purpose.

[@hansgruber9685]

The agenda is most important. Everything else is secondary to politics.

[@botterminator]

If at first political correctness does not succeed, try, try, try, try and so forth.. again.. The mentality is to utilize a form of propaganda; destruction is inevitable and money is easy to obtain.

[@DachshundDogStarluck19]

Why are you comparing a broken Jedi to a professional archeologist? Indiana Jones didn't die or completely lose himself in the fucking fifth movie in the similar vain as Luke Skywalker in Star Wars The Last Jedi! What a load of Nazi propaganda I'm truly witnessing here!!

[@SgtLube818]

I don't consider my self pessimistic, but the older I get the more I have to agree with my dad. "Everything you loved growing up turns to shit". Which sucks so much to actually experience.

[@Writing_Gamer_513]

Here’s my advice, stop consuming Western media, unless it’s agreed by a large amount of people to be really good, instead look to the East because they have so many stories to tell in many different ways, from live action drama/comedy, to vidja games, to animations, to their better comics. In other words, ignore the west, embrace Japan.

[@MrJackWorse]

My dad said something very similar once and I just rolled my eyes and said something stupidly condescending. Sorry Dad!

[@MarcelNL]

48 years old and experiencing it too. My wife and I are about to emigrate to a south-eastern country to live a simpler life there in a year or so from now. I'm not planning to follow the news much there. No disappointments about movies and pop culture, no frustration about the LGBTQQ+ community and islam both taking power and suppressing western society, no stupid laws about the environment that makes life seriously difficult and expensive while China is building over 800 coal plants etc etc etc. Just a simple life with a house on the beach, renting out a few huts to make a living.

[@Azact]

@@Writing_Gamer_513whats sad is western media USED to be good. But then the left came and ruined our society

[@Azact]

@@MarcelNLwestern society was good until people started becoming woke

[@mattyfrosty]

As @TheCriticaIDrikner once said: . If there’s a silver lining to this shit-storm, it's that the scale of Kennedy's incompetence only underscores the superiority of all the movies she tried so hard to bury and upstage. Working with less money, more primitive technology and fewer resources, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg achieved something she'll never ever equal - a legacy to be proud of.

[@Bosch_Bosch]

The sad thing is that in her social circle she as well has achieved something praised and held in high regard… destroying landmark franchises of male identification.

[@piotrd.4850]

She's Lucas' legacy.

[@ZiddersRooFurry]

Did all of you forget all the movies she executive produced that you people claim as better than this? She was responsible for the first three films. You remember that, right?

[@alesksander]

@@ZiddersRooFurry Yeah about that. Good joke.

[@solan7978]

@@ZiddersRooFurry Executive producer! She basically got coffee for Steven and George.

[@willterryart]

We don’t go to movies anymore… that’s what Disney wanted right?

[@DougErapps]

If there is an antimatter to exceptionalism, artistry, creativity, excellence, reverence and respect, it’s called Kathleen Kennedy.

[@raylopez99]

She still gets paid tho...is she worth a billion? Then again, almost anybody famous for being famous or a grifter or hanging out with the right crowd is wealthy these days.

[@xuvial1391]

@@raylopez99 But where is all that money coming from? It must be from all the people who keep watching her productions.

[@Neon002121]

The anti-artist.

[@ihaveanunorigionalname]

if that's true then why haven't they annihilated by now!

[@dragonlord_nati8309]

Couldn't have put it better myself... it's just indescribably sad

[@Frankoaks277]

As a diehard Indiana Jones fan, I’m in tears seeing the greatest on-screen adventurers ruined by Kathleen Kennedy

[@anonygent]

As a fan of Doctor Who, I'm years ahead of you. But I have resolved that my head canon is the reality and the 12th Doctor was the last. Counting the War Doctor, that was 12 regenerations, and that's all a Time Lord gets.

[@sterlingarcher857]

Why? Indiana Jones is a trilogy. A beautiful, masterpiece trilogy.

[@bandit4690]

Oh don’t be a baby. I’m a die hard Indy fan as well but if a single movie ruins it for you, you need to chill the fuck out

[@TransRoofKorean]

We'll always have the old ones. But it's why I stop giving them my money.

[@bennyb.1742]

@@sterlingarcher857 Let's be real, Temple of Doom is so brutally cringe I can't watch it anymore. I swear if I hear a blonde perm havin' lady scream "IIIIINNNNDDDDYYYY" one more time I'm going to brain myself. Raiders and Crusade are bloody masterpieces though.

[@CHCrux]

"GO. AWAY. NOW." The absolute fury. And I am 100% on board. It's like they know these ideas are going to bomb, and they decide they're going to just do it anyway for the sheer spite of destroying the legacy of the films.

[@Withernall]

"GO. AWAY. NOW. Or bottles starts flying."

[@mikitz]

What makes you think they're ruining these franchises accidentally?

[@liamphibia]

Let this video get all the recognition it needs. Because in the end "GO AWAY NOW!" Tells you everything of how god-awful of a studio Lucasfilm is these days.

[@Exalted_Truth]

AND THEY WILL GO AWAY. NOW...

[@varmastiko2908]

It should be damn clear it's intentional.

[@adrianmasters250]

I like to think that there's an unused ending somewhere where Indy stays in the past and at the end Marion, mourning his disappearance, attends a museum showing of the discovery of an 'ancient hero' lost to time and sees the hat and realises that it's Indy. It would bring the whole series full circle because Indy himself would 'belong in a museum' and become a key part of history that he loves so much. The worst part of the film for me was the end, when Indy decides to stay in the past and 'strong female character' takes his choice away and knocks him out, deciding for him. Having an abrasive, unlikeable woman with no positive qualities force Indy to make a major life decision against his will is the biggest disgrace of the film. Indy is a man who always makes his own choices, for better or worse and that was the most unforgivable part of this film for me, which did have some good moments and overall could have been better than Crystal Skull by a longshot.

[@sibral]

bring likes to this point

[@EddieHenderson92]

The ending wasn't good but the whole movie was pretty bad and that ending still wouldn't have saved it

[@gavinvales8928]

Jesus Christ, watch the movie again, but this time without your political specs on. Not every movie that comes out nowadays is going to push the message, and that applies to Disney products too. You have to at least try to live in the moment, and not make everything about politics.

[@adrianmasters250]

@@gavinvales8928 You're just plain wrong here, narratively the film is absolutely pushing that agenda, just not as overtly as in other films. Just because you can't see how they're doing it doesn't mean others cant.

[@EddieHenderson92]

@@gavinvales8928 It's still a boring movie with bad CGI action and a least 30 mins too long.

[@donalddarmsteadt3541]

I like how his, "Go away now!" had some true anger in it. You could feel how sick and tired he is of people at these studios ruining what was once great IPs.

[@jwroot]

And it's pretty scary, yet well earned.

[@Bleaky1]

Yeah I had to stop watching halfway through, shit tripe

[@roberth2274]

The movie WAS fine, but you had to toss an empty insult. Projecting much ?@@Nonesovile96

[@iguachumontiel]

It's weird how most of us are more excited to watch the Drinker destroy these movies than the actual movies themselves.

[@mistermetaverse7267]

In a clown world, this isn't weird, it's relief!

[@adventurerretro]

It's not weird, it is only natural at this point.

[@paulelroy6650]

how does he destroy them. he bitches an moans about films that are going to be bad anyway. i dont get the praise this guy gets.

[@christianrios153]

​​@@paulelroy6650imple, because he's telling the truth about modern movies and how they suck nowadays, we literally have to watch KZbinrs like Drinker because of how Critics will hate or like anything, and audiences are split towards movies... Granted sometimes Drinker isn't always right but I'll take someone who sees cinema for being what it is instead of how others describe and want it to be

[@dustman96]

That's the truth, I enjoy Drinker's analysis of modern movies way more than the movies themselves. The analysis at least has some meaning.

[@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719]

One thing I really liked about the cars 3 movie was taht although the new female character that came in to help out the male lead find his hights again is a great talent in of herself. The movies still made it clear taht his experiences are very valuable and you can really feel his knowledge and skill that has built up over the years. Crazy how cars 3 did it better than the majority of box office movies these days.

[@Chris-es3wf]

The girl boas theme is still the same and its just incredibly tiresome at this point.

[@nathanaelsallhageriksson1719]

@@Chris-es3wf I just explained how it wasn't the same, but sure.

[@Zaslanetz]

That's indeed, Cruz was a fine and working female successor for main male lead who doesn't replace him but turns up as an addition for his own story arc without losing her own.

[@CalPersona]

I’d agree. Some people will be upset that a female character comes in to take up the mantle. Nothing wrong with that but the trope has been used a hundred times since cars 3 came out. So looking back it doesn’t seem as original as it was at the time. Was a good story. All athletes are eventually surpassed by the next generation. Even Brady will be overcome. It’s hard to accept that. And they gave Lightning his personality and honor. That’s good.

[@gungho9545]

It never fails to impress me how Kathleen Kennedy manages to fail upwards. She's the only person I know to fail as much as she does but still manages keep her job

[@thecandyman9308]

Being held accountable for your professional failures is only for straight CIS white males.

[@jbaketkd]

It's like watching Biden try to climb stairs lol

[@noanyobiseniss7462]

@@jbaketkd Or Trump stay out of jail.

[@twistedinnocence8617]

​​@@noanyobiseniss7462Trump didn't do anything any other president hasn't done. He's no more guilty than Hillary and they didn't do anything to her. Hunter Biden admits to a crime that would normally get 10+ years in prison and he gets nothing. So don't say anything about Trump belonging in prison.

[@Humongous_Hongonggolongus]

well if we're bringing politicians into this, then I'd like to introduce my personal pick: Ursula von der Leyen. She failed 3 consecutive times as the Minister of Family Affairs, Minister of Labour and Social Affairs and than as the Minister of Defence. The only way to get her out of the German government, was to promote her into one of the most powerful positions in the EU.

[@Zac_Frost]

That closing "Go away now" was from the soul. Well done, Kathy. You ruined literally everything you've placed your nasty little fingers on.

[@djnjoy]

Came to say that. I heard a lot of pain in it and I fully concur. Dammit

[@howaboutno7959]

Absolutely spot on. Its like a direct message to Disney

[@JoseHernandez-xv2bt]

@@howaboutno7959all it is now is dust and echoes. That’s it. There’s no stone left unturned, all that it is now is a grave yard of were once great franchises have been drained and left to rot.

[@wonkabars6982]

That last line when he says that when they run out of things to destroy, that we'd be next, sent shivers down my spine.

[@JoseHernandez-xv2bt]

@@wonkabars6982 you know what, I think I’ve finally figured it out. This whole situation with Disney reminds me of Halo Reach. Both are similar but different, in that in Reach, your efforts where futile but you tried to save the planet. With Disney, however, they did the opposite, in that they purposely glassed their beloved ips for vain brown points and the “modern audience”, but ended up killing the very golden eggs that gave them success in the first place

[@johntrentis_my_hero6667]

The most angry “go away, now!” ever uttered by the Drinker. I’m sorry my friend. I feel your pain.

[@bikebudha01]

You could could realy feel the hatred!

[@ourworldentire4773]

I caught that, too. Almost scared me.

[@modshiftmotion]

I'm feeling it too.

[@konstantine8054]

I was scared and saddened in equal measure.

[@johntrentis_my_hero6667]

@@konstantine8054 That’s a good way to put it. I’m sure he’s tipping up the bottle a few extra times cause of this one.

[@madelynhowells6858]

As someone who does creative writing for a hobby, I have to say: these films make me realize what NOT to do when creating a story and forming characters. (It's disappointing to see that modern entertainment is showing me the things I should NOT do when it comes to creative storytelling. That's just sad.) The critique from channels like this one also help to see what makes these films so... icky. It makes me reflect on the choices I've made in my own works so that I don't make the same mistakes. So... yikes.

[@johntiggleman4686]

Crap like this is why suspense writer Dean Koontz won't let Hollywood near his novels. They fuck up a wet dream.

[@Jokoko2828]

@@johntiggleman4686 There was a period of my life where I was hoping the books and comics I've read would get some sort of adaptation, these days I just pray everyone ignores my darlings.

[@GothLady1987]

Same here. I like creating strong female characters (male too); ones that actually make mistakes and learn from them, so I try like hell to stay away from the "perfect from the start" archetype. It's boring and makes you want to put a book down rather than finish.

[@specialk9424]

That was the angriest "Go away now" I've ever heard. In Harrison Ford's defense, you'd be sad, weak, and broken too, if you saw what they were doing to one of your most beloved characters. Why SHOULD he help them make a fool of him? The worst part of this, I have a friend who went and saw it last night. She posted on her Facebook that she was going, and I replied "My condolences. They made a mockery of him". She replied that she enjoyed the movie! I don't know what to say to that, because I don't want to come off like I'm telling her "You're stupid, you don't know what's good, you've been suckered", because then I sound like Disney, telling us the same thing, that we're stupid, and we don't really know what we want or like, and we should just accept NEXT PRODUCT, and ask for more.

[@Xbalanque84]

_...Why is this tasteless smoothebrain your friend?_

[@brians132]

Try not to judge your friend too harshly, she is clearly brain-dead and should only be given sympathy...

[@racializedkanadian]

You don't NEED to say anything. LOL. Just be content that you learned something new about your friend. Maybe offer to take her to see SOUND OF FREEDOM on July 4th.

[@RJALEXANDER777]

The thing about these movies, like the Star Wars sequels, on a surface level they are enjoyable, if you don't think about what you're watching. It's when you think about them and analyse them on a deeper level that you realise how terrible they are and feel the undercurrent of identity politics, misandry and hatred for the source material.

[@cuthbertallgood7781]

It's possible your friend just enjoyed a bunch of action sequences, without thinking too hard about the plot or characters. That's literally every MCU movie, and look how many people like those (probably including some of the people knocking this Indy movie). They have no characterization and no plot, just a bunch of loosely tied-together action sequences and wisecracks. No wonder Disney thinks the formula can work. I hope someday to watch decent movies again, maybe after the industry finally crashes and burns.

[@TaliaIGhul]

This movie is yet another example of JRR Tolkien's quote to be true.... “Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”

[@_billy.mandalay]

For the past few years, the evil ones have been insisting that they are tearing it all down so that they can "build back better". The world isn't better.

[@jimdodson4211]

That quote explains the reason why everything in the world is falling apart.

[@Kassadinftw]

Literary/Artistic Necromancy, the idea of re-embodying the message of the original writer or creator with intent to pervert/distort/re-imagine their original work.

[@eigelgregossweisse9563]

Evil corrupts. And they blame on the corrupted. Then the corrupted becomes evil. Whole cycle begins anew.

[@aarontorres8101]

@@_billy.mandalay to them that just means they need to tear down even more

[@metatechnocrat]

I feel confident in saying that KK has for many years held a grudge if not a hatred of being relegated to working "under" Lucas and Spielberg. Only someone consumed by envy of both their talent and success in the industry would put such effort in destroying their legacy. Only someone with her narcissism would think they could supplant their legacy with her own in such a ham-handed fashion. For her this all wasn't so much ideological zealotry as it was a more fundamentally base, a personal vendetta. Perhaps Spielberg's snub could be due to him coming to a similar conclusion.

[@dansanfrisco]

Let's set the record straight. There was no snub on KK by Spielberg. Stop listening to KZbin idiots who are pushing for clicks and views. We all know the main players for Indy are Spielberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. KK was the coffee runner girl on the first indy set and married into her producing role. She walked on the coattails of great creatives before her to get to where she is at and nothing more. Why would Spielberg ever consider giving her praise for anything creative? Because a KZbin idiot said that she was snubbed in a speech? I must have missed where she created the Indy character by herself or acted out the part or wrote an entire script or directed a film or produced a musical theme for a whole film....actually I've read where she did input her ideas from time to time to Spielberg, all of which were tossed aside because they were terrible ideas.

[@metatechnocrat]

@@dansanfrisco Oh you are spot on correct about her irrelevancy to the creation of the franchise. Spielberg very likely did not have that as his intent. But it was obvious to anyone watching that SHE felt snubbed. Such is her ego. She's all clapping and smiling until Williams is announced, and her husband tries to pull her off the stage. So the so called idiot has a better take on Hollywood egos than you in my estimation.

[@StratumPress]

@@dansanfrisco Calm down, Kathleen.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

What Spielberg snub? Last I heard he was calling people bigots or some if they didn't watched this movie...

[@metatechnocrat]

@@marbellaotaiza801 That wouldn't surprise me. After all he idiotically decided it would be "disrespectful" to put English subtitles on his remake of "West Side Story". The point is KK felt snubbed. Not that Spielberg intended to snub.

[@contondant]

Saw this movie this evening... my God you're spot on!! To me the most insulting part of the strong female character was somehow knowing what was best for Indy at the end when he made it 110% clear it was his decision to stay in past". Then she's all "no, I know better because... reasons". I think that would have served as a better ending to the Indy saga. But nooooo.....

[@sigma6656]

If they had done that it would have completely erased the possibility of them dredging up indiana jones' violated body for another movie.

[@parksoo-kim6908]

He should have made a choice to go back. Instead he gets punched out and it turns into a joke with an abrupt ending.

[@drk_matter4640]

Have you heard of the butterfly effect?

[@gavinvales8928]

Yes, Indy’s an independent man. He don’t let no woman tell him what to do.

[@williamg3165]

Man! The ire, indignant sentiment and rancor that Drinker felt for this movie was truly palpable in that review. I mean, we’re not just talking an act for humor’s sale, Drinker truly sounded irate and livid over the whole experience. When he said “that’s it”, I had to concur. However, this isn’t just about destroying George Lucas’s legacy. It’s about destroying everything we’re love. That is the objective of KK and those like her. They won’t stop until they’ve desecrated everything we care about. To be perfectly honest, there isn’t much left for them to destroy at this point. Star Wars, Indy, Marvel, Bond, Lord of the Rings, Ghostbusters, etc. The list goes on and on. What haven’t they touched yet?

[@Rob-lz5iz]

Don't forget Star Trek, Dr Who, Quantum Leap, McGuiver, .....

[@villageblunder4787]

@@Rob-lz5iz Quantum Leap?

[@candyman9635]

@@Rob-lz5iz unfortunately i will never forget star trek :( or dr who.

[@xenon3990]

Warhammer. Although even there, they try to subject it to their whims. The problem is that the fanbase is very protective if not rabid and the hobby is very niche, denying them a permanent foothold

[@All2Meme]

In order to control people you have to destroy their hope for better things to come, and an effective way to destroy that is to destroy their icons and heroes only to replace them with an inferior substitute. The ultimate aim is to create a demoralized, ground-down population that gives up on everything. People in that condition are easier to manipulate and brainwash into believing anything.

[@michaelemerson7661]

You could tell by the drinker’s final words that he was really feeling sad and pissed about the outcome of this movie. And who wouldn’t? How could movies be made in such an awful way given that such an amazing foundation had been laid in place 40 years ago? Sad, so sad!

[@jwroot]

At this point, I pity his anger and frustrations.😔

[@gridley]

@@sydneyirishblues And in your case, you don't, by chance, happen to be a woke leftist? If you are, what exactly do you think your sociopolitical biases are really all about & good for?

[@Number2MemeFinder]

@@gridley oooo gotteemmmmm

[@nboy7]

@@sydneyirishbluessure buddy, now dont you have some bud light to drink at a pride parade or something?

[@eugenetswong]

Yeah, it really causes me pain to see them destroy a classic character. 😞

[@SaviorMachine84]

Jesus christ, the broken male hero again? Imagine what top gun 2 would've been like if Disney was making it? Though I doubt Tom Cruise would allow himself to be humiliated like that also.

[@MrAdamske]

probably be in a zimmer frame and the made up inserted daughter of his old flame from the first movie would magickly be 10x better than him in the cockpit I reckon

[@polz8]

Wouldn't you rather see a Top Gun 2 in which Maverick isn't the hero super-pilot that we remember, but rather gaslit into thinking he's a washed up never-was, upstaged in fighter aviation by an obese African American lesbian with a fade haircut, that's somehow an immediately better & flawless pilot, even though she's never flown any plane before in her life?

[@CameraX_FNAF]

It sucks because 15 years ago they treated Indiana Jones right. I know a lot of people hate Crystal Skull but atleast Indie was still kicking ass as an old guy and wasn’t a broken man who was miserable to watch.

[@DrKaushikRam]

I had a glimpse of hope watching the first 15mins of this movie until the strong female character appeared and it was all downhill from there. You are spot on, the modern film studios are not creators but destroyers.

[@racheldeschaine]

Phoebe Waller bridges character was NEVER afraid for her life even in crazy situations and that just takes any believability out of it for me-in the early Indiana Jones movies even indie was afraid at points even though he’s a bad ass

[@helpfulcommenter]

this is a good point. indy was a hero because he was vulnerable and we always saw him get away by the skin of his teeth. this movie (i haven't seen it) like everything disney/marvel/lucas seems to do now, is the superhero-ization of all narrative. there's no human-ness, no vulnerability, no flaws, in any female characters. they're always supposed to be perfect. it's so sideways.

[@randomgrinn]

So you haven't seen any Marvel or SW movie in the last 5 years? Everyone who dies is back alive 5 minutes later....so why would you fear death?

[@racheldeschaine]

@@randomgrinn well Indiana Jones isn’t about superheroes

[@OneHotWolfie]

​@@racheldeschaineWell he's not a modern 'marvel' superhero but he is a 'pulp' superhero. A different genre, where wits, combat skills and probably a gun were usually enough, such as The Saint, The Phantom and so on.

[@supertrendymoneymaker0722]

Yes especially when he had to deal with snakes 🐍 that put the fear in Indy I remember

[@DOOMStudios]

I say for most of us The Indiana Jones franchise ended in The Last Crusade. When he rode to the sunset with Sallah, Marcus, and his father Henry Jones Sr. The Crystal Skull, And the Dial of Destiny are non canon to the amazing trilogy.

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

She did it, Kathleen Kennedy finally ruined Indy just like she did with Luke & Han Will Disney finally fire her…I think not

[@MarVIogs]

I forgot to mention: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4u3imSCZrlnrrM

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Yeah no because Kathleen cares about brownie points and that's it kinda like Disney

[@josephsalmonte4995]

She performed her job perfectly & most people are too dumb/naive to see it.

[@Godzilla00X]

I hope to have her level of job security one day

[@GothPaoki]

Not to mention they massacred the story of one of the most important artifacts in mankind's history in the process.

[@ActivistParrot]

I went to the theater with no expectations and still ended up disappointed. I can’t believe people are saying this is better than kingdom of the crystal skull. I’m like REALLY? This makes Kingdom of the Crystal Skull look like the Last Crusade. At least Indiana Jones was the Indy we knew and loved in the 4th. He doesn’t even fight in the 5th movie. He gets some hits in but mostly he gets overpowered by everyone else. I get it he’s old but that’s the point. Indy was watchable because he was an adventurer that was always in way over his head but was able to come out on top because he could handle himself. The younger Indy would easily make quick work with the villains in the 5th film by himself.

[@dixienormis1852]

Kathleen Kennedy isnt even trying to hide it anymore. She's made it clear that George Lucas's vision for star wars is gone and that we should 'move on'. Sad to see a beloved series me and several others grew up with be destroyed over someone with a personal agenda

[@knightheaven8992]

The thing is, we did moved on, and are still moving on, to the dismay of Disney shareholders im sure

[@tyranidswarmlord9722]

If it's gone, then it should burn to the ground and to let it rest at least for awhile. For someone, an actual Star Wars fan who grew up with it + would respect it, to revive it from the ashes down the line(assuming Nukes haven't dropped).

[@MF-kc9lk]

Indiana Jones And The Diarrhoe of Disney 🧻

[@NotTheStinkyCheese]

moving on isn't bad ... it's natual process as we change to become better versions of ourselves. The problem is that the new thing is not a 'better/improved version' of its predecessor. Instead we got something that only exists to destroy and hate the very thing that allowed it to exist.

[@unicorntrooper226]

It's only destroyed if people accept it. I'm not even gonna see it. Too bad that most of the money made off this movie is KZbinrs and podcasters disparaging it for ad revenue

[@dlegofan]

While I'm a part of the based "There are only 3 Indiana Jones movies" gang. I can appreciate the idea that there once was an attempt at a 4th movie, one that would bring Indy back together with the love of his life, and a son he didn't knew he had, and that by the end he would've made amends, married the love of his life, and taken responsibility for his son, living a happy life, and the tales of his great adventures could've inspired his son to continue his legacy as not only a historian, but an adventurer as well. That all could've been left to our imagination, even if this theoretical 4th movie wasn't very good. Dial of 911 has tainted even the mere thought Indy could've lived a happy life with his wife and son, "Nah your son died and you had a divorce. But don't worry, though you may have been a failure, we have found the perfect replacement, a british woman who once challenged a plank to an acting contest and lost". At least Indiana Jones is a franchise where each movie serves as a unique adventure that doesn't require watching any other, so now that we saw yet another shitty Indy movie we can just go back to the good ones and forget this one. We already did that with a movie that wasn't nearly as bad, so we're pros at this by now.

[@billmartinson4205]

I wonder if some really talented fan-editor could take the last two films, flush all the garbage, and cut the remainder together into a 10- to 30-minute short film that, well, doesn't suck. Perhaps just the family stuff from Skull and the de-aged flashback from Destiny, maybe a moment or two with Sallah if it works out narratively --- somehow salvaging a kind of epilogue to Crusade where not long after reconciling with his father he reconciles with his wife and son. Just a thought. Give KK a taste of her own medicine by cannibalizing her two stupid films to make something that honors rather than destroys the IJ trilogy.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Don’t forget the TV series, which clearly had some respect for the character as well.

[@louisduarte8763]

THEY KILLED OFF MUTT?! WHY?! JUST BECAUSE OF FAN BACKLASH FOR THE LAST MOVIE?!

[@mikerosoft1009]

​@@billmartinson4205I'm looking forward to AI getting to the point where movies can be generated. Then we'll get what we deserved all along with Indy and Star Wars.

[@lakitu7612]

Kathleen Kennedy's competence in bookselling is truly inspiring. She made me read more books than never before.

[@TheJezza223]

Any recommendations?

[@danielhan7992]

@@TheJezza223the Phantom Blooper by Gustav Hasford, best book I’ve ever read

[@vladbesedovskyy826]

Bowling Alone

[@samtanka1]

@@TheJezza223Ghost Fleet

[@BURGATRON]

@@TheJezza223 for fantasy: Theft of Swords. For science: The Way Things Work Now. For finance: One Up On Wall Street. For Comics: Forever Evil by Geoff Johns

[@boodabill]

I watched the movie listening to the score, could be one one of the last John Williams scores. Many of the scenes would have fallen flat without music, JW did a wonderful job as usual, with subtlety, fun and nuance. He kept the old Indy alive like an IV drip.😊

[@m22110]

I thought the score was quite uninspired really. Nothing like the marriage of movie and score in RoTLA

[@gonkmaster717]

Kathleen Kennedy is like a little child playing with it's father's train collection. It doesn't know what it has, and it throws it in the corner when it's finished playing.

[@MarVIogs]

I forgot to mention: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4u3imSCZrlnrrM

[@MarVIogs]

This is accurate

[@WhiteManOnCampus]

A cruel and bratty child, at that. When her father tries to teach her about the trains, she spits on him, insists she knows better, and breaks parts to spite him.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

The scene of Toy Story 3 where the toys get mistreated summerizes what Kathleen Kennedy did to the Star Wars franchise

[@abrahamlincoln1600]

And picks up a new train to screw with.

[@interstitialist4227]

The Drinker suffers through these trainwrecks so we don't have to. The man is a saint.

[@ito2789]

I’m pouring one for the Drinker tonight for this 🍺

[@heikkint]

Keeps taking it for the global team. Respect.

[@bodhiyoga9465]

Well said 👍🏻 Agreed 👍🏻

[@theblackneon5396]

All hail the God Drinker of mankind.

[@Arc3752]

F is for Females replacing icons. A is for Aimless filler. I is for Inflated budgets. L is for Losing touch with reality. U is for Uninspired plots. R is for Rampant cringe. E is for Egotistical directors. What's that spell? DISNEY!

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

A bad acronym?

[@gitsurfer27]

Dire Insipid Soulless Nepotism Everything's Yucky ok the end could do with some work

[@Small_Scenes]

True

[@ii8215]

I sang read that in spongebobs voice.

[@randomrey6568]

amen

[@jakobheidenreich5]

Makes me appreciate kingdom of the crystal skull even more

[@ToasterFrog-dv6wk]

Perhaps we treated it too harshly

[@jakobheidenreich5]

@@ToasterFrog-dv6wk we definitely did

[@crispinrovere]

The Drinker's review is the compensation you get when a movie is utterly terrible and you know you're not going to watch it.

[@raymondamador1487]

Exactly. I won't watch this garbage movie.

[@MarVIogs]

I forgot to mention: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4u3imSCZrlnrrM

[@MarVIogs]

Well put

[@sjc4]

there's already been 2 videos saying he wasn't gonna like it anyway, we're all just hate-watching. none of us are watching it.

[@RichardBirdsall]

It was commented before, but having this movie center around the return of Short Round needing Jones help would have been a home run. Showing him come back as a grown man with his own abilities and reverence for Indiana would have elevated the story to classic in an instant

[@StCreed]

At this point, basically any change to the movie would be an improvement. But I agree.

[@curethedarkness]

Especially since the actor has only just gotten back into acting with Everything Everywhere All at Once, this would've been the perfect time to bring his character back and really let the actor shine!

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

Short Round, plus lifting the story from a property they already own - The Fate Of Atlantis - would have made more sense, but what at Disney Lucasfilm makes any sense any more?

[@curethedarkness]

@@paulmurgatroyd6372 Lifting pre-existing stories that already have a good track record with the fans? That sounds like some expanded universe bullshit and we know KK doesn't go in for that! Who needs fan pleasing stories that have proven popular when you could have a strong female character upstage a tired old useless fart? That's what the fans REALLY want to see.

[@thanosandnobill3789]

In an alternative reality, Kathleen Kennedy retired in 2011 and people in 2023 still remember her as a legendary producer of movies like The Adventures of Tintin, War Horse, Signs, The Sixth Sense, Schindler's List, Jurassic Park, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Goonies, Back to the Future and original Indiana Jones. But unfortunately for her, this is our reality and she didn't retire.

[@Xbalanque84]

And her substantive contributions to all of them grow more questionable with every passing day. What did this parasite even *_DO?_*

[@philatio1744]

For real, her current output makes you completely forget everything she’s made.

[@ataturu]

She didn't make anything. Maybe some coffee. But probably shit coffee

[@OhNyo69]

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

[@BeatRoot14]

​@@OhNyo69i was thinking the same thing. Wish it went differently🙈

[@marklohrum9160]

Two missed opportunities I thought surrounding Helena. 1, her father should have been Marcus Brody. And by the trailers, I thought Toby Jones was playing a young Brody. It would have tied her in better with Indy. 2. Maybe instead of Helena, the sidekick could have been a grown up Shorty. The kid who was the sidekick on his first adventure, comes back as an adult, down on his luck, and resorts to robbing his old friend of a priceless artifact to sell at an auction. Indy refuses to believe that Shorty is capable of such a thing and comes back as a friend and father figure to Shorty. Then at the end, Shorty is the one who refuses to let his adopted dad go, and reunites Indy and Marion.

[@jeremyblackmouth3323]

The one point that made the audience realize that Indiana Jones is a dead is when Fleabag suckered punch Indiana Jones just to drag him back to the future. If that wasn't the prefect summary to what Kathleen Kennedy and Disney did to the franchise, I don't know what is

[@DeathReviews]

By all accounts, they had private screenings that were so bad, they went into emergency reshooting and re-editing to make new plot lines and replace what they had originally planned. And that's why the movie is a jarring crazy-quilt of unrelated scenes, cobbled together at the last minute - because that's exactly what happened. The rumor was that they originally filmed it so that Rey Skywalker II uses the "Dial of Ret-conning" to go back in time and replace Indiana Jones with herself in ALL of his adventures. Showing her finding the Ark, saving the Temple Idols, recovering the Holy Grail and even the Crystal Skull - a literal ret-conning of the entire franchise so they could erase Harrison Ford completely, and have Kathleen Kennedy's latest Mary Sue take over. But the screenings were so awful and so hated that they were forced to dump all that on the editing room floor. So an embittered Kennedy ended the movie with Rey II punching Indy out, and dragging him back to his life and marriage by the scruff of his neck like a little kid who didn't want to eat his vegetables. BOO, Disney. BOO.

[@jase276]

I almost wish that retconning existed so Kathleen could finally be put on a pike but... no, that'd be too big of a sacrifice

[@marbellaotaiza801]

Not only that. The original ending involved Indiana waking up in his New York apartment, putting on the Fedora, and reflecting "this hat is perfection" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat and put it on. Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then she put the dial in the hat and became Ms. Retcon, and with the machine gun went to kill all the nazis in the multiverse, and to collect every relic that Indiana discovered, plus the mummy of Imhotep and the Dragon Emperor, the triangle of Light, the Golden Cat from that movie with Stifler and The Rock, and onto discover the cradle of life, and even King Solomon's Mines...

[@empireoflizards]

@@marbellaotaiza801 That is truly some bizarre shit. But, for Hollywood as a whole, there was always perception of an arrogant 'cult' at the higher ranks...but now it seems that the arrogance, self-importance, and politics has separated them from the rest of the world and what these legacy movies meant to us originally. Let them implode so we can put all of this out of its misery.

[@ffh1234ffh]

That was the angriest "go away now" The Drinker has ever delivered

[@samtaholo]

God, if only Kennedy would. Right now it seems like she won't until 2025 at the earliest when she fails to deliver the three Star Wars films she promised at Celebration and Iger finally calls her onto the carpet.

[@MrSprigg]

Second angriest. His review of the Willow series ended with him almost yelling at us.

[@dernvader6876]

But you can hear the sheer pain in his voice …

[@drbryant23]

The great thing about the drinker is that he is not one of these newbie youtubers who shout GO WOKE GO BROKE at the top of their lungs and expect to be regarded as serious film critics. The Drinker is a student of film, understands filmmaking, is familiar with the history of Hollywood and is able to express his ideas in a humorous but succinct and comprehensible manner.

[@ffh1234ffh]

@@drbryant23 Yeah, behind this persona of "The Drinker" there are a lot of well constructed reasonings, the character works for entertaining purposes and making some jokes, but those are the ones that keep you hooked

[@chrisdesjca]

I would have liked to see Short Round (Ke Huy Quan) carry on the franchise, I thought it would have been the next natural step after he won an Oscar. He has experience with stunts and fight choreography, they could have made something more grounded but also action packed, something that could have had a chance at being interesting.

[@comyxcon4gaming860]

The sad part is that Hollywood, despite their obsession with "mah diversitay" doesn't have faith an an Asian male lead in an iconic and celebrated franchise, even though Short Round is an iconic character himself. Sorry, but that's the cold, hard truth.

[@Gabes_Game_Cave]

Rest in peace Indy. I'll never forget your perfect trilogy.

[@SuperSparkyMark1]

Amen

[@tothbence7436]

XD bruh, the movie was okay, I think it gave a character a good sendoof, maybe the ending was rushed.

[@ModeMan101]

Raiders is the only one of the OT that has stood the test of time and can still be considered perfect, Temple and Last Crusade both have flaws but are still decent films.

[@seamusoneill5765]

It’s funny how they’ve now made five movies, yet most of us still only think of it as a trilogy.

[@CCovers1]

Funnily enough I don't think KOTCS it too bad, it's just really mediocre. This movie just looks horrendous and Phoebe is insufferable.

[@Matt_Wilson01]

Like metallicas catalogue of albums, there was only the first 5 the rest shouldn’t exist

[@L8ugh1ngm8n1]

@@CCovers1 and it gave Indi a nice happy ending and wink to the passing of the torch.

[@lightningmonky7674]

Death magnetic is slept on my man, I'm sure you've heard it before but if not try giving it another wirl!

[@GeorgeMonet]

Because it is. When the people who made it the trilogy are gone then any future movies are noncanonical fan fiction.

[@opininglurker1452]

The sad part is not only did they destroy George Lucas but also the legacy of his ex-wife who was arguably the best video editor of our lifetime. George was awesome at script writing but lacked the finesse of converting it to a viewable form. Marcia Lou once said the proof of her performance was the dip in quality of Locus Films after she left and I agree with her. Great job Disney for proudly destroying a woman's legacy.

[@reek4062]

You can argue George Lucas destroyed his own legacy with the special editions, the prequels and Crystal Skull. Also, George Lucas sold Lucasfilm to the white slavers.

[@Enriqueguiones]

@@reek4062 Unfortunately, that's true.

[@electrictroy2010]

Awesome script writer? Apparently you missed the painful romance scenes between Anakin and Padme. “I hate sand… it gets in everything.” Yeah that horrible line will seal womens legs shut. Not lead to love.

[@Sycokay]

@@electrictroy2010 George is awesome at worldbuilding, but sucks at dialog. In the first three episodes the actors convinced him to drop the cheesiest lines, thankfully.

[@alexanerose4820]

@@reek4062 Special editions were always fine, the Prequels made SW more awesome (Truth hurts doesn't it?) and Crystal skull was.... yeah that one was pretty meh. Pretty balanced overall

[@pauljarman4433]

I was eleven years old when my dad took my brother and I to the cinema to see a move called 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'. There was very little advertising and we knew nothing about it. We walked out, whistling the tune, skipping in glee, our lives changed forever. This film, just like the new Star Wars has basically ROBBED us of our childhood.

[@Madman6505]

Imagine if the Star Wars and Indiana Jones legacies were treated with respect and done right. They could have retired the old actors gracefully while passing the torch to beloved new characters. They would have resurrected cultural phenomena, elevated the art of filmmaking, and made never-ending fortunes. Instead, it's like we moved into an alternate dimension where everything is wrong.

[@luxinvictus9018]

To be fair; maybe it's not possible to reinvent these franchises, and maybe this is a sign for us fans to just fondly remember the originals and let go. It's kind of like LOTR. You can never really write a sequel to those books. Even tolkien couldn't. And you can never capture the magic of the Peter Jackson trilogy. Even he himself couldn't. My perspective is that some things just dont need to be redone or reimagined. At least, not for another century. Truly creative people will just go and make new things. Like, Christopher Nolan will never agree to do a star wars film. So instead the task falls to corporate executives who hire dubious talent. My dad had Legend of Zorro. I had Star Wars and LOTR. My younger brother had the Phase 1 MCU. The next gen will something new of their own. It's probably better that way.

[@jdwee07-9]

@@luxinvictus9018indiana jones should’ve just been left alone but star wars there is so much you can do but disney just has no imagination. go out and get good directors to make movies in different time periods. get rid of everyone making stuff right now because the only decent thing they have put out recently is andor

[@rugan0723]

You just don't understand the new mESsaGe they are trying to sell us.

[@wilsonno9675]

@@luxinvictus9018 I disagree, it requires actual passionate writers.

[@timothypollard6008]

@@jdwee07-9 Yeah, there's plenty of room for sequels. Disney's Star Wars _could_ have been the equivalent of Star Trek The Next Generation or Deep Space 9. They are perhaps not as iconic as the Original Series, but they're possibly even more popular, and well loved, with a multitude of fans.

[@deusextalkina7722]

-The Dearth of Dynamism -The Death of Dedication -The Deacon of Deception -The Doorknob of Dysfunction -The Dereliction of Duty -The Dial of Depression -The Dissection of Disney -The Desecration of Dalliance -The Decimation of Drama -The Destruction of Dominance -The Dedication to Deconstruction -The Disintegration of Dramatization -The Disillusion of Deckard -The Desolation of Disney Drek -The De-Emphasis of Domination -The Destitution of Discovery

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

The Doodoo of Disney? The Dogma of Dismay? The Drivel D'Kennedy?

[@jamessalvatore7054]

Sounds like better films

[@josephberrie9550]

wow that took a lot of braincells to come up with........well done

[@Sekir80]

Especially loving The Disillusion of Deckard. Hoping disney will never gets the rights for blade runner.

[@Hodaris_Darlin]

The Diagnosis of Dementia.

[@madisattybayev249]

KATHLEEN KENNEDY DID IT! She did a movie that’s worse than The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

[@MarVIogs]

So I forgot to mention: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4u3imSCZrlnrrM

[@MarVIogs]

You might be on to something

[@krishanuA]

High praise indeed!

[@Lonovavir]

She's on a mission to destroy Spielberg/Lucas's legacies.

[@krishanuA]

​@@LonovavirYour username suggests an imaginary antiviral drug, which is pretty innovative. Love it. And the point you made is the bottom line. That's the absolute truth..imo, of course.

[@ArkaynAdrian]

After watching this at the cinema my first thought was "I kinda wish they made the whole movie like the first 15 mins".... Temple was a prequel. So could this have been and hence we could all stick to riding into the sunset is the end of the FOUR Indy movies.

[@ricanporgg3870]

The crusade to destroy every character Harrison Ford has ever portrayed has finally been completed.

[@sticksman1979]

Kennedy’s work is done. Victory for women!

[@mattandrews2594]

No it hasn't. Blade Runner 2049 was roughly equal to the original.

[@EyFmS]

​@@mattandrews2594Don't mention it please, don't give them any ideas!!!

[@swnews4u161]

How did this movie destroy Indiana Jones? No, please tell me. For me, Indiana Jones is still the hero he was, and the only thing I am left with is two things actually 1.With the first portion of the movie, I wish they would have kept making a new Indy every 7-10 years after the Last Crusade so we could have gotten more 'Indy beating Nazis' stories, and 2.If they would have made this, only with Mutt instead of Helena and Marion (alive) being in Basil's spot (but pulling away from Indiana because she did not want to put her newly-learned unborn child in harms way) instead of what they wrote for Crystal Skull, we would be praising this movie as the triumphant return of the franchise. Well, with the film we got now, half of us are...

[@prince-solomon]

@@swnews4u161 Everyone wants to be Indy from the trilogy, nobody wants to be old Indy. End of story.

[@elijahherstal776]

My father is an old man, and I think he said it best watching the trailer for this: "They just can't let boys have heroes any more. I don't wonder why. I *know* why."

[@raylopez99]

Wisdom of the ancients.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

They here the boys.

[@miked6288]

He’s right on the money. How old is he… like… 50?

[@elijahherstal776]

@@miked6288 65.

[@MCFrutek]

*"she's not charismatic enough to be an adventurer, she's not charming enough to be a rough, she's not attractive enough to be a femme fatal, she's not funny enough to be comic relief"* She is just funny girafe.

[@helpfulcommenter]

*rogue *femme fatale

[@swanclipper]

funny?

[@Withwhatmytoes]

@@swanclipperI was thinking the same thing. She’s about as funny as prostrate cancer

[@HermannTheGreat]

She's literally inserting her own fanfic into these movies, the female lead is how she envisions herself and Indy is probably how she viewed George Lucas.

[@helpfulcommenter]

@@Withwhatmytoes *prostate cancer

[@daneast]

I'll tell you one thing they really screwed up, was when and how they revealed that Mutt had died. Now don't get me wrong - I was no fan of that character in Crystal Skull. However, they misled us to believe that Indy was a depressed alcoholic due to separation with Marion. That is out of character for Indy, and it just didn't make sense. Later, in a very indirect and offhanded way it was finally revealed to us that Mutt died in the military. They could have made a much more compelling plot narrative out of it if handled right. Something like this... Mutt died, we find out right when we jump forward to 1969. Marion has separated from Indy. It is revealed to us later in the movie that Marion found out Indy had half the Antikythera mechanism, and that it was rumored to allow time travel. Marion, having experienced many supernatural things in the previous movies, totally believed that it could, and that Indy should devote all his energy to finding the other half. Indy did not believe it, and thought it was a bunch of BS, so he would not go after it. Marion was so hurt and enraged that she separated from Indy. She nearly goes mad (in place of Phoebe's dad) researching and hunting the mechanism for that reason. Even though she doesn't blame Indy for Mutt's death, she is just as upset with him for not doing everything he can to try and undo it. Phoebe in this movie is unredeemable, almost exactly like Dr. Elsa Schneider in Last Crusade. She has a kind of child like innocence, naivety and lack of moral compass that leads her down almost the same plot path. Phoebe sets things in motion, through her knowledge that Indy has half the Antikythera, and she manages to steal it from him. Now Indy has no choice but to get it back, and in the process of the adventure it leads him to the other half. He also encounters Marion, in a very similar situation as in Raiders - she is in some foreign country, scraping by a living, after having run out of money and being stranded. They use the Antikythera device, and just like in the film they travel to the wrong time. However, Phoebe gets left behind and eventually dies thousands of years in the past. Indy tries to save her, but can't, and she's gone forever. Indy and Marion now understand the flaw of the Antikythera device, and with that knowledge they successfully go back in time to save Mutt. They manage to talk him out of enlisting. Then, in the final emotional climax of the film, when Indy and Marion return to the future they find that Mutt is still dead - he has died of some other cause. They realize that they cannot change fate, and no matter what they do Mutt is destined to die in the past. Or if you want, it's all a happy ending and when they come back to the present time, Mutt is alive and well.

[@SavageReeses]

Writers that went on strike saying they deserve to be paid more is probably the funniest line they have produced in a while. Yes some writers deserved more but not the ones who destroy franchises and iconic characters

[@dlewis9760]

Writers are the GFE. Girl Friend Experience. "Pay me enough money, and you can pull my hair and I'll call you Daddy".

[@randomguy6679]

Some writers genuinely do deserve more pay though

[@XeniaChow]

the only good thing that will come out of this is the sheer spectacle of Disney losing hundreds of millions yet again, and I, amongst others, will sit back and enjoy every moment of it.

[@MarVIogs]

I forgot to mention: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4u3imSCZrlnrrM

[@MarVIogs]

Every moment

[@andrewmontemiglio1468]

They r on track to lose a billion from what I have heard.

[@topsuperseven7910]

I'm no Hollywood accountant but I think they find ways to make money after all. They use creative accounting, they use California Tax credit schemes, they do various bankruptcy schemes and somehow it really makes just as much money as if it made 200 million more than it cost. Thus that saying 'in Hollywood, no movie ever made money and no movie lost money".

[@frankhdz]

Yep! That is exactly the best part of the Dysentery of Destiny. Watching this pile of excrement burn under its own fumes. I want to see Disney hurt.

[@rachb373]

They killed off Indy's only child. That's ****ing unforgivable. Indiana Jones is an iconic character who deserved better. WE deserved better!

[@sweetcinnamonpnchkin]

Can’t have a young man that’s gonna follow in his father’s footsteps. Nope, it’s gotta be “strong independent woman”. Ugh

[@Guigley]

Nobody liked Mutt Williams, so it's a moot point.

[@1974Imperium]

Yeah I've been reality he shouldn't have had a kid to begin with because the fourth movie shouldn't exist either.

[@Hooplh]

I mean Mutt wasn't the best character but good lord that is a cold way to unceremoniously write off a character, puts a bitter taste in my mouth just thinking about it.

[@MrSGL21]

Kennedy had to. The plan was for Fleabag to take up the mantle. Can't do that if the fandom knows Indy has a son.

[@akabrockman]

Back in 2008 I started what would be a 4 and a half year run at Blockbuster Video. That's when Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was coming out on DVD. I slapped that poster up on the window. Grabbed some expired coke and a tub of popcorn. Used one of ten free rentals and took the DVD home. Had I only known how bad things would get. I'd hug that CGI prairie dog and contract rabies if it meant Kathleen Kennedy would be out of the job. This movie is so bad that I called the suicide crisis hotline twice while trying to finish it.

[@seashell604]

OMG!!!! I am a woman in my early 60s and I am so tired of movies downplaying and making strong men look like sexist idiots. My husband and I will wait to see it for free, maybe.

[@blue-phoenix115]

Hate watch. It's enjoyable to watch a terrible hot garbage movie with the correct mindset.

[@Rezzatoni]

Don't worry: Indy isn't depicted as sexist, but she is ...

[@justinkennedy3004]

Have you ever demonstrated for men or boys? You realize most men get maybe one or two compliments a year that aren't directly related to us working? Get your women friends together and hold signs encouraging and appreciating men and boys (as more than just workers). Men stood up for you, return the favor.

[@B0ph13]

Don't watch it at all, it's just fan fiction.

[@whenpigsfly8178]

Why pollute your eyeballs and your brain? Still, I guess you can just watch the first part of the movie as Drinker described. Personally, I could have watched a lot of disney movies and shows through a friend's Disney channel, but I only watched a couple I didn't want to support in the cinema. I certainly wasn't going to watch Solo or the third Star Wars movie in the recent trilogy or the Willow tv show.

[@burtpanzer]

It was exactly what Disney wanted. KK did her job perfectly... destroy George and his characters... screw the fans.

[@Drewbie176]

How does it benefit Disney to damage the value of the multibillion-dollar asset they have in Lucasfilm? I really think this is adequately explained by stupidity, not malice

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@Drewbie176 Stupidity is part of it, but so is active malice. KK hates the existing audience. She wants a different audience... one that doesn't have Y chromosomes.

[@prashunpcchakraborty70]

I disagree, they wanted to make money but they were incompetent. Saying they got malice is giving them too much credit.

[@timhollis3390]

@@Drewbie176 the club wants to move society in a certain direction. It ain't the Mickey Mouse club I'm talking about.

[@RokushoTheRavager]

Don't they expect to make billions of dollars in addition to doing this though? What if they don't and audiences just plain don't go to see it, don't pay to be subjected to their mockery, then what?

[@theeffete3396]

Wars have been declared over lesser offenses than Kathleen has thrust upon society.

[@sumotony]

With all the football/soccer wars in South America, there was real passion, unlike modern corporate Hollywood

[@RevanReborn3950BBY]

Emu war

[@0ntimetaiment921]

There once was a war over a bucket. So not such a hard thing to do.

[@RevanReborn3950BBY]

@@0ntimetaiment921 are you a fellow Oversimplified enjoyer?

[@0ntimetaiment921]

@@RevanReborn3950BBY Guilty as charged.

[@davinrsmith]

Crystal Skull killed the franchise - Dial of density was its "stop he's already dead" moment

[@TheHimbeerjoghurt]

The fastest way to build a million dollar franchise? Give Kathleen Kennedy a billion dollar franchise.