Did Jagex Just Kill Their Latest Update Before It Was Released?!

[@KingCondor]

There are more issued that need to be addressed about these changes I will discuss in the next blog video. The gold per hour from this minigame is completely ruined right now, there's no need to do the content past wave 8 once you have the boots and I honestly can't get passed how the new boots are not being buffed in mage or melee in any way over the Cerberus boots other than "not needing to carry multiple boots" which isn't even the problem with the boots in the first place. Basically, only shadow players will benefit from these new boots which just makes no sense to me. Anyways, enjoy, Like and Subscribe ty :)

[@alpacalord507]

One of the biggest issues I don't see being discussed is the fact that the new boots rely on the ranger boots. So once they make those boots worth upgrading to, there simply won't be enough ranger boots to create the new boots causing them to become hella expensive.

[@SaniOsrs]

New boots are hella good man. You just have ironman brain if you're in max you're almost always bringing eternals and prims and if pegs had +1 range you'd have all 3 at most content.

[@tryhardtr3nt]

They really gotta start getting feedback from somewhere other than reddit 🤣

[@marcus3533]

@@SaniOsrs No offense to Condor or his primary audience, but you are talking about a bunch of med level irons and mains who wear dragon boots or mole slippers to every piece of content. They won't understand the benefit the boots are providing as they are not the target audience

[@SaniOsrs]

@@marcus3533 Ya I mean torva is barely an upgrade from Bandos but it's 1b for the set. That's just endgame upgrades in general you get diminishing returns

[@xLittleVinnie]

People don't lug the boots around because it's not worth the inventory slot for the switch. But you'll now just get the small upgrade/benefit by default from wearing these boots for all pvm content that requires 2 or 3 combat styles. I don't think it's as shit as you are making it out to be.

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

Yeah, we were all happy with the Aranea boots, and now we even got a stronger version + defenses, CAN'T COMPLAIN!

[@barfnugz]

My issue with it is that you have to get so many upgrades just to avoid a boot switch. These feel very lack luster for the difficulty to obtain the item + the insane level of items needed to make the upgrade. Ill stick with aranea boots because I cba to go through the effort just to have such a slight upgrade you need a microscope to see the increased dps you get from them. Also, I agree that 150k pair of D boots over these 100-200m pair of hybrid boots isnt even a question for the vast majority of players who arent sitting on max cash/ironmen.

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

@barfnugz i mean, if the question is the other boots, play a normal account and do content you enjoy, I'm literally 1B bank by farm runs and the ocasional slayer drop, so you can get there, eventually

[@CosmicMatt92]

Exactly. How the fuck are people too retarded to not realize the benefits associated with having a 3 in 1 boots with no negatives. Especially in places like TOA for the fang where Eternals remove that max hit prims would have given.

[@hustlerboy32]

​@@ohinianahiuhki9088whatchu doing for farm runs I gotta work on mine for the new spirit tree lol

[@chillin-gamin]

wish we had a poll system to solve these problems

[@comgeturs]

They only poll shit when everyone is already happy with it so they can be sure it'll pass

[@AlotOfNothing-vp8en]

has "democracy" solved any problems in the real world lol? why would it in a videogame haha?

[@Reswob]

Yeah, too fucking bad they lower the passing threshold when their shit ideas dont pass. smh

[@reaper10142]

@@AlotOfNothing-vp8en true

[@MegaDysart]

@@AlotOfNothing-vp8en it's not a democracy in osrs, that wouldn't work. Polls need a super majority to pass - you need an overwhelming landslide vote to pass content which is how it SHOULD be.

[@Wentr-z]

nah the cape needs to be tradeable for this to be content that you do for more than just 1 time. its pretty shit theyre making it untradeable now.

[@charlesc174]

Yea cbf with dead content just wana buy things 😂

[@Yltimate_]

Yes. Entire update is dogshit. They need some serious help with player feedback. They are not listening to the people that this update would have effected

[@Hikarii349]

They’re so spineless and listen to people bitch and moan on Reddit and Twitter rather than put cool shit in

[@TehBrazi]

They only listen to Reddit

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

yeah considering most don't like sailing, shows jagex dont listen to active player base at all

[@Johnnyhawgg]

It’ll get worse more they listen to Reddit. Sailing should’ve stayed as a meme.

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

Reddit is a vocal minority. Always has been. Surveys are what they need to focus on.

[@DazTheNord]

Yes. Boots still suck, cape sucks, removing the thrall ammo sucks. Unsurprising results when they are just listening to redditards.

[@MCshadr217]

Jagex last week: This is intended for those going for inferno/who have their infernal cape This Week: Oh well it's not like Inferno level of content Jagex. Make up your fucking mind. This clearly shows dicussion is NOT happening in the office as it should.

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

I said at the time it sounds like inferno level gear and bank balance rather than inferno level challenge and nobody wanted to hear it.

[@SaniOsrs]

Inferno level as in challenge, not the type of content. They should've just said it's PNM level content or DT2 awakened or something, it was a bad comparison

[@shawmoment]

They said it is INFERNO LEVEL, not inferno-like content. They have been very consistent abt that. Yes, they could have chose better words--even so, it is pretty fucking clear what they meant imo. Never once thought the content or magic cape was gonna be a new inferno/colosseum piece of content.

[@SaniOsrs]

@ Exactly I dont understand everyone's confusion here. Average sailing voter

[@erenlapucet398]

It's a bit odd to say it's clear what they meant when so many people misunderstood. If there is one thing that's actually clear, it's that they messed up communicating their intentions and thought process for the different rewards in the first blog.

[@dysae4484]

Its so stupid that they stood their ground on the boots, but, not the thralls, or the cape being tradeable and now they made it inferno 3 which they never intended it to be, despite stating their intent and the reasoning why, which was solid.

[@shawmoment]

Yeah, thought it was super weird that they did that. They had no reason to lmao they even stated they didn't want it to be like that

[@charlesc174]

Wat dumb fk made it untradable cbf doing this dead content just wanted to buy

[@ozzy.8413]

How is the games “first” enrage boss loosing it’s an entire enrage concept before it has even made it into the game? How tf is coliseum more of an enrage encounter than the boss you said is going to be an enrage encounter? Jagex have been fumbling varlamore badly.

[@mayfalltribe4747]

So glad spergs control this games content now.

[@Patio1itall]

All the rewards were underwhelming last week. They really need an entirely new item as a reward. How does brain off, sip brew nex add 5 BIS items to the game? When difficult end game content has 3 niche/tiny upgrades...

[@ascent3820]

I think the antler guard is really designed for people that want to AFK Melee slayer, which it seems to be an adequate item for. Trading some melee stats for more AFK time to before needing to hit a prayer pot. It also fills a niche of having an actually meaningful low-ish level ranged off-hand for irons that isn't tied to clue scroll RNG. It's niche, but I don't really see the hate people give it.

[@gamblinduran6851]

Exactly.. its "not worth it" because they take up inventory space and require swapping. Now they won't require that.. pretty clear and useful upgrade.

[@barfnugz]

I mean the Bandos God Book provides the same level of prayer, is cheap and easy af to get, and provides +2 str bonus. not +5, sure... But doesnt really seem like much of a gap that needed filling on the prayer aspect.

[@ascent3820]

@@barfnugz Getting god books on an ironman is a massive RNG fest. You'd easily require several hundred clues before completing one, and it'll likely not be one you actually want, which isn't something a low-ish level ironman would reasonably do.

[@anophelesnow3957]

I like the concept, but if it is worse than the Dragon Defender, it has very little use. There might be a case for wearing Pros and maxing prayer against... Zombies? Grinding for the Zombie axe? I want it to be good, I've an idea for some sweet fashionscape.

[@dimoher6165]

they should add devout boots to the avernic treads, so we get prayer bonus from them

[@WALMART_H0BO]

Lfg get that poll out and sensually smash that no button. Aranea boots already fill a tribid slot without wasting the time designing a massive boss around it 😅 not to mention they hardly count as an upgrade comparitively..

[@zachshw]

a quest that requires you to complete perilous moons, which requires decent mid/high level stats and barrows to comfortably do, to unlock a dungeon that requires high slayer to access, to unlock the antler guard which is dogshit. as someone who has had a dragon defender since level 20 slayer.

[@anophelesnow3957]

Yes, the trivial 65/65 requirement for the DD might have been a mistake, close to BiS at such an early level distorts things. Who is not getting the DD before Perilous Moons?

[@FreelanceVar]

Wonder when Jagex will understand Slayer.

[@TheIndirectgaming]

They need to make it 2000 total to vote on polls. And actually use the polls instead of listening to Reddit feedback from the same people who still haven’t got a fire cape.

[@anophelesnow3957]

1500, for pures and skillers I'll concede, but I want the game to remain inclusive to newer players.

[@bsx132]

I have an 1800+ mid account and don't vote because I'm not bossing. People should have the brain power to not vote if it isn't something everyone uses like the run speed changes.

[@TheIndirectgaming]

@@anophelesnow3957 maybe 1800 for a skiller but pures are rarely ever main accounts for people

[@100BoyEgg]

Jagex is listening to the 1350-1500 avg total andies that fled their dogwater gacha hell mmos and now, with no poll restrictions, they and the brilliant minds behind forestry are guiding our trajectory. We need total level, Jagex acc only, total play time, quest point, etc, restrictions. They’re mangling osrs, IMO. And Jagex loves it cuz content glut is easier to add to than bothering with their “to do” list lmfao. They should go to a kids park to play in the sandbox rather than turning our game into their sandbox playground. So rotten.

[@emmanuelsampaio4687]

Lmao dude, stop being an elitist POS. So fucking weird.

[@Mega_Blade]

Where is your evidence for any of the claims you made. Casual players aren't reading blog posts they probably don't even vote.

[@barfnugz]

Yeah no... I think theyre listening to the Gnomemonkeys and the high level community on this one... What retards were complaining that the slayer caves were too low level and needed to be raised? Only high level pvmers would want the content to be at a higher level restriction.

[@Acewingman11]

I get it. They don't want to make the boots stronger because they plan on releasing 3 new boots in the future to cover the combat triangle, and this is going to be a generic tier 2 boot that you don't have to gear swap for.

[@sahlevans9450]

Would have rather seen a pegs/ eternal upgrade over a tribrid bis gear piece. I don’t think tribrid gear being bis is the best direction to go in

[@charlesc174]

It is for now once we have these they will make single bis boots again later on

[@barfnugz]

I see so many comments about the boots being great. I look at it this way... The boots are nothing more than a QoL update for people with max cash that can afford to drop 100-200m on a set of hybrid boots. Id say it doesnt justify the hefty price tag they will have, but then again, neither do prims or ranger boots, and yet theyre expensive...Ill stick with my aranea boots that are very nice hybrid boots and not too expensive =) Now all I have to do is make it to wave 8 for the guaranteed cape and I wont ever touch this boss again. Thank you Jagex.

[@lesnacke]

forestry devs popping off at Jagex HQ over here 😂😂

[@PaladinfffLeeroy]

Fuck at least half of Forestry

[@ricky5369]

Wait so what is going to happen to the ranger boots? You only need the pegasian crystal to create the treads but they are better than pegasians? Why have the ranger boots not crashed? What am I missing/misunderstood?

[@xLittleVinnie]

They should boost that max minimum hit of the the eldritch veil to 3. Another unique passive would be to decrease the enemies magic attack/defense by 1% per successful hit. And it could cap at like 10% reduction.

[@cokemachine62590]

Leave it to jagex to turn one of their biggest updates of the year into dead content before it’s even released 😂

[@JesusFirst316]

I think the hybrid boots create room for more powerful melee specific boots later. I don’t think boots is a bad update it’s just not a mega upgrade

[@teajayyyy]

The cape should remain tradable if this meant to be like high level vorkath (a novel idea) and not meant to be our mage inferno. the boot upgrade is fine imo but it does make for rather insane upgrade path but they are great boots on their face. With binning everything and making the cape unreadable I don’t really see how this is ever gonna be the high level vorkath. It’s gonna just be you doing this content until wave 8 get the boot upgrade for the log. Maybe the weapon and cape along the way and then no one is gonna touch it. I think they should maybe rework a lot of this shit.

[@barfnugz]

The boot upgrade isnt a guaranteed drop at wave 8. Could still be very rare and hard to get. The now untradable cape upgrade is the guaranteed drop at wave 8.

[@cactustre]

Tbh i like the thought jagex have on the boots.. Moving away from 9 way switch and focus more on interactive boss fights later

[@artemhanawalt4395]

Yo only like a minute left of the video and I completely agree with the people in the live comments! Aranea boots! That's what I use! They offer magic, range, and melee dps boost. No defense at all but I believe dps is king/top priority! And they are only 8 mil... I have 2 pairs so I don't need to switch them between accounts because I use them so much! They give a melee str bonus, and a range and mage accuracy bonus, plus a small prayer bonus. Plus Venenatis is one of my very favorite bosses and they help negate it's web attack! As well as helping with all the other spider bosses, even the ToB final boss. So maybe Aranea boots aren't quite as good as this new combination of all 3 of those Cerb boots.... But those are going to be crazy expensive... Prims, Eterna, and Pegs have already went way up in price. I sold my eternal boots because they almost quadrupled in price for a moment. Pegs went up by like 10 mil. Prims went up a few mil too. So these new boots are bound to be pretty expensive as far as boots go. So yeah we'll see but don't forget about Aranea boots, they're dope! And they look so freaking awesome! Probably my favorite boots tbh.

[@JeremyKing-n7h]

I had my dragon defender before I even bothered to train slayer. Maybe the D defender can be added to the antler guard to buff its stats.

[@VenatorXVenator]

SO hyped for antler guard. Pures finally get an offhand better than the Zammy book.

[@Kryptikxosrs]

They should make it so you just need to combine the crystals and not the full boots themselves. Also agree they need to add more DPS to the boots.

[@CosmicMatt92]

The boots are fine the way they are IMO. You're getting all the stats of 3 boots without the negatives associated with them into 1 pair of boots, and we'll now get a max hit with the fang in places like TOA since people with a shadow take the Eternals in anyway. It's nowhere near as shit as it's being made out to be. The convenience of a 3 in 1 alone is worth it let alone avoiding the negatives associated with each pair.

[@Nick-ij5nt]

they were saying that they might want to add new bis boots later on so it would make sense why they don't want to make these boots insanely strong. 6 melee strength, 2 ranged strength and 2 prayer would probably be enough to buff them without making them too strong.

[@KingCondor]

So they give us good tribrids now to reduce switches, then bring switches back with even better (very slightly) boots

[@HughWanztino]

they killed the cape. it being untradeable completely kills the whole point of the boss, money making.

[@frankcastle_8513]

Boots???? Don't they know we wear mole slippers to do content

[@e2smoov]

If they added anti web to the boots having the 3 bis boots with the anti web would be huge instead of being a main having to use boots meant for pures and zerks aka the aranea boots .

[@mahargb4207]

Make the boots like power treads from DOTA 2 and you need ranger boots, Mnancles and one other type of boot to turn it into an un tradelable boot

[@PaladinfffLeeroy]

That cape change is great. Acquired much later in the game than Imbued God Capes, and doesn't need them for people too afraid to run into the wildy.

[@A-Fruit-Smoothie]

i was looking at the stats of the other defenders and the Antler is on par with the Adamant Defender when it comes to offensive melee stats. Still would use the God Books.

[@ryan0348]

You know how and why Ava's devices work -zombie chicken + undead tree + magnet. But no one can say why these or those boots, capes, etc... work. Can we have some lore with any of this shit? Gear is basically all this game amounts to yet the creativity is null.

[@lesnacke]

different times bro devs used to actually be creative back then

[@chillpill786]

Boots are good. You can do any content and switches with just 1 set of boots. Like tormented demons

[@balkirprl]

Boots should give +1% damage to all attack styles. Keep the +5 str bonus but giving a 1% damage boost overall would make it huge for melee

[@dutchblazewell6289]

And now the boots are skyrocketing. Complete idiots.

[@KeytarArgonian]

Just about to buy my first pair of prims too. Fml

[@Nick-ij5nt]

The only reason I wanted the cape to be untradeable is because I assumed it was supposed to be the new bis mage cape. If they were planning on adding a different bis mage cape later on down the line that's better than this one then I don't care if this one is tradable.

[@JustinsReviewChannel]

Defender looks awesome. It’s like a addy or rune defender idk with prayer bonus what’s bad about that

[@Imbuedx]

Yup Jagex ruining shit once again bcuz they can’t put their foot down when they actually have a good idea. Redditors strike again…

[@MitchellCarl]

The boots are a fail, no one brings 3 boots anywhere, ever. Ditch the tribrid, combine eternal and pegasians and buff both while simultaneously buffing the elidinis ward to stop the shadow from going crazy. Buffing the ward solves a lot of problems, or make the sang actually stronger than the trident. The cape's proposed updates are nice. The spec weapon update is fine. There's no scenario where you actually get the Antler guard BEFORE the dragon defender in this scenario. Doesn't fit as a 'before' Dragon Defender type. The dragon defender is not hard to get nor does it take a lot of time. Will absolutely have defender prior to this piece. Useless. Feel like Jagex is missing on these updates

[@Tatercon]

You bring all 3 to toa

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

@@Tatercon You could also bring Mole Slippers.

[@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure]

The point of the boots is that they're bis hybrid boots. Not to dominate 1 specific combat type. But to make it so that you do make use of all 3 boots, instead of just wearing 1 and banking the rest. (I personally use eternal boots, if not echos or aranea.)

[@KingCondor]

That's good mate

[@SirPrimrose]

Yeah agree with the take here. Boots are a bis hybrid. Jagex can take these boots and make more upgrades in the future that make style specific bis.

[@jaredbuffington9968]

Came here to comment this exact thing. He says no one is lugging around all three boots which is exactly why no buffs to the boots is the way to go due to the fact that it buffs 2 of the 3 cb styles that you’re not already getting with using the 1 pair. It also helps with avoiding too much power creep. Boots overall will be like 70/80m can be used everywhere but prioritized in multi cb areas like torm dem/gor all the way up to inf/raids. I think boots are a great update leaning towards more end mid/late to late game content where damage output is more priority over defense

[@KingCondor]

@@jaredbuffington9968 people talking about power creep seem to not understand what power creep is You guys are all missing the point I made in my video I think with the boots

[@0verpwned]

@@KingCondor You made the point of why should the melee ToB guy get these boots vs just getting d boots. I agree, but it's a good thing that melee ToB player probably does other content than just melee ToB. These boots are going to be convenient to have in content where you need to hybrid or tribrid, but they wont feel like an upgrade at all for content that you 1 style. So I half agree with your point, if you only consider content where you only use 1 style, sure they are not really needed as an upgrade.

[@TheSLATEcleaner]

They should just make the Antler Guard better than the dragon defender. It would be a nice stop gap between the dragon defender you get like day 3 or 4 of an account and the avernic you aren't touching until a year or more into one typically. Give it flat 25 melee accuracy bonus, 10 accuracy for both range and mage, matching defense bonuses [or +0 to all defenses if they're married to it needing to be mid], +6 Strength, +5 Prayer, +5 Ranged Strength, and +2% Magic Strength. They want it to be a tribrid prayer-based off-hand and I think all that keeps that intact without busting it. The bonuses to Prayer, Magic strength, and ranged strength as well as positive ranged/magic accuracy and defense bonuses would make it better than the early game untradeables accounts are typically using [god books, dragon defender], but it would still be comfortably worse than the dedicated endgame off-hands [Avernic, Buckler, Ward] while being close enough it's still viable for end game content to reduce switches if you're okay hitting slightly worse. Make the antler guard drop from only the Elder version of the slayer creature while the lower level slayer creatures drop antlers that can be crafted with a yew shield to create the antler guard.

[@SaniOsrs]

They tried to do this and the issue is the difference between ddef and avernic is basically 0 so there's nowhere to put a new defender without devaluating the crap out of avernic

[@barfnugz]

It bothers me that an item with the word Guard in it provides negative defense. Such a shitty item lol

[@Iog0ut]

They should just make those boots +7 strength and make new +3 range strength boots while ignoring eternals because they just got 1% recently anyway and fuck the shadow

[@Runescapeluvr4]

the antler guard will be bis for accounts

[@andervanburren4980]

17:25 the most idiotic thing ever, defender and torso are the 2 things you get first in the game, then barrows gloves i have all 3 of thoes and only 50 slayer, thats wacked

[@kdemirci2001]

Antler Guard could be somewhat useful for safespotting npc's with ranged since you do get +2 ranged strength

[@0x7000]

Who cares lol blowpipe / MSB would still be better dps

[@MainTopmastStaysail]

@@0x7000 Hunter's sunlight with antler guard would dumpster MSB on everything and would dumpster blowpipe on anything weak to heavy ranged.

[@SirPrimrose]

Are we forgetting cost as a factor here? Pretty sure BP costs more than a Sunlight hunter cbow, and the guard makes another budget upgrade. They don’t always have to design around everyone having max cash for upgrades.

[@deviouschimp4663]

It would appear I have changed my opinion and have to agree with you that the threads should be buffed. Their response shows this was supposed to be the premium reward of the boss and that should be reflected. However, this buff should be rather slight. Buffing all 3 styles at once by any margin is just BEGGING for power creep. It's a delicate balance. The big green guy knows a thing about balance, so let's ask him.

[@Purge5165]

Can't wait for an infernal level boss so I can upgrade my trident!

[@americanpatriot7178]

Imagine taking away the AOE melee attack because “there’s not a lot of places it can be used” that means make it good where it works? Make it work against large monsters. 90% Jagex is just using ChatGPT to read shit and write update responses.

[@kjax139]

yes

[@dsullivan777]

Antler guard is definitely content for pures disguised as a progression item. I'm shocked it doesn't have a passover that gives access to chivalry without the quest.

[@ohinianahiuhki9088]

Who gives a fuck about pures? Lmfao, touch grass dude...

[@reaper10142]

Everyone should vote no in polls!!

[@ZayyWithTheKs]

I voted no on all my accounts

[@OrangeNinjaKitty1]

Jagex making content that will be outdated in a year is classic. The magic cape is a farce

[@ryan0348]

what do you mean nobody is lugging three pairs of shoes around? -That's because we don't have the inventory space for them. I would like some new sneakers man.

[@KingCondor]

Its because they're not worth swapping out buddy

[@bruhmango]

You forgot to add that they said they didn't want it to seem like "mage inferno" then made the cape a guaranteed drop on delve 8....... literally mage inferno lol

[@reaper10142]

Dragon defender took me 13 hours 😢

[@ZayyWithTheKs]

Sit tf down 🪑

[@reaper10142]

@@ZayyWithTheKs jagex hates me smh

[@ryanrebs5830]

Make the guard automatically turn bone drops into bone shards or some shit lol

[@AJ_Ol]

I put on my hazmat suit and looked at Reddit. They’re not happy about these changes either. So actually who tf is jagex listening to? Facebook groups?

[@majoris6033]

unsure why people are complaining that cape is untradable but cape is shit anyways wouldnt be worth farming for, magus ring is twice as strong and only 40m

[@dunkiscool7551]

some jagex employee just wanted to merch his stack of pegasian's smh

[@izzmire1]

A big problem is they need to leave room for the future and power creep.

[@KeytarArgonian]

And the biggest obstacle to that is the shadow, which fucks everything in the mage tree.

[@barfnugz]

I mean we are already over 10 years into osrs, and we are worried about power creep on a pair of boots? let the power creep in, the game probably only has another 15 years at best anyway, I wanna enjoy them. I dont wanna grind this shit for +1 range str lol.

[@JARREttgg]

woot.

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

so valamore is just stepping stone for mid level players and doesnt benefit high level end game like this is good for mid players but us high level max players wouldnt mind upgrade too.

[@spgoonsquadbizair]

I say give the Cape an ability like the blood fury. Edit. Watch the video to completion first 🤣 I Wrote before the bit about the bit came up

[@ironferrets]

Why are we getting another demonbane weapon? Can we talk about how we got ratbane before spiderbane? Xd

[@RebelMontana]

Jagex seeing ghost 👻

[@unclen2479]

- Give boots a combat passive - Change weapon effect from demon niche to something else, we have enough demon weapons - Make weapon upgradeable via a rare special piece that comes from wave 8+ - Add 2 more uniques to this. 1 ranged one since mage/melee already have some. And then one more untradeable upgrade that *isnt* guaranteed like cape.

[@PaladinfffLeeroy]

So let me get this hetero straight. To get an item that is intended to be worse than the Dragon Defender you need to complete a bunch of quests including Perilous Moons and have at least 54 slayer, with assumed better dropchances at 76, just to have something worse than what you get at 65/65 attack/str??? Fuck me, I'd rather have them remove god book pages from clue scroll rewards and move them to something better so ironmen can get the books easier. There you go, fixed the "below Dragon Defender" item problem. If they do that then they can give us the antler guard and make it better than the book of law but worse than the twisted buckler but make it ranged only. Melee already has a sidearm.

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

unless combined boots are insane stats i dont care for them like nobody is carrying around all 3 boots at one go and its not needed as boot switch isnt really thing on osrs, as only thing which make new boots good is if they increase dps abit for upgrade/combined then people moan about power creep also then.

[@lancewest7419]

So I don't really get this. Maybe it's cause I have a shadow but I camp eternal at toa, and being able to also add prim stats to them for melee rooms is just more better. Same with like cox. You just get a little bit of extra dps out of 2 of 3 raids

[@lancewest7419]

To clarify im not saying it's ground breaking. But it is better

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

@ varys how much it adds, like with jagex im not expecting it to add much also im not shadow user as i got sang and for me for i wont see much differance (though i do say more pvm bosses with range or melee mostly myself).

[@maniacmatt7340]

I hope they take another week to think about rewards. The delving boss feels not very good with this blog.

[@The_Hoss]

End game boss with dog loot awesome

[@Snakeyes244]

Yes! Dragon defender is so early game. This proposal is stupid. Apparently they don't play the game hahaha

[@cocozimme]

They should have never nerfed the bp

[@johnbartz1907]

This would have been the perfect time to work on a new prayer book, nope well add dumb shit.

[@MD-zm6sn]

Looks like some stuff the switcheroonie community Jagex employees designed.

[@rayne7837]

ngl i don’t think you understand the value of the boots, you keep saying no one wears the pegs/eternals because they don’t matter…..that’s exactly why they are doing this, this is a way for players to get value out of their pegs/eternals since they are (as you point out) not worth bringing as a switch

[@KingCondor]

This still won't change anything unless you have a shadow, which is the only reason people bring a boot switch now, these boots will not change your characters performance, I understand the value of the boots, they're not good enough

[@JJSmeez]

People act like 4% damage is gonna ruin the game cuz shadow is op. It’s not going to lol.

[@Twittchyy]

Your take on the boots is dead wrong bro, how could you say all 3 bis boots in 1 slot is bad

[@KingCondor]

Im saying it needs to be better, all 3 bis boots are already bad because the arenea and dragon boots sit at a very cheap price and do the exact same thing as prims, pegs and eternals UNLESS you are wearing a shadow, and these boots will be no different, I dunno how people are not understanding this, they should be an upgrade, not a QoL update

[@Csm1231]

Ngl, the antler horn looks cool for afk vyres. Other than that? Its all trash.

[@MasterBettyy]

looks insane at vyers

[@W0ahTh3Re]

So they are making the actual profitable sounding reward non tradable lmao.

[@colton6154]

Thanks, reddit warriors.... you've ruined yet another update

[@danstrang1496]

Think of the ultimate iron man, I which am not

[@SaniOsrs]

You're definitely lugging 2 pairs of boots around at a lot of content, plus if pegs had +1 strength people would bring that switch. You use blowpipe in like every raid in the game including inferno. The boots are a very big upgrade as is for max mains (who the content is designed for). The boots will be nice for all roles in tob because you use all styles at nylo boss. I think dropping the veil is fine but you need more than 1 reward from this content for it to be worthwhile.

[@Phennom]

Avernic = untradeable I like it

[@IL_Bgentyl]

Personally I hate content like fight cave, inferno, colosseum. The first completion I get it. But after you have done it a few times it’s so mind numbing boring. Last 10 waves or even just the final fight after you complete would be a god send. Even if each time you completed you skipped one wave so you had to get a lot of kc first. Still that would be aids but significantly better.

[@Borchert97]

Sometimes I feel like Jagex doesn't understand how the progression of their own game works lmao, questing/NMZ prodding yourself to Dragon defender requirements is pretty standard early account shit.

[@lesnacke]

lol and all these hundred hour drop rates grinds that they like to make, I swear none of those mfs are actually playing this game other than 5 minutes of testing

[@whiten00b]

"Intro" "Send Help" "Outro"

[@Gforce1313]

They want all the content to feel relevant yet theyre going to release sailing? Fuck me I hate the idea of sailing -.- no matter how they do it it's not a skill it's a fucking Minigame.

[@5siccors5]

How about we ignore terrible updates for a year and focus on bots.

[@externalboss9404]

How about you let bots stop living in your head rent free, and we get more content.

[@TheUhmmmmmmmm]

@@externalboss9404 My god anyone that says rent free should just be cleaned.

[@RSpectORcheckIT]

Why are they still adding dog shit content before a graphics overhaul and calling this game Runescape 4. This game is no longer OSRS...

[@ughighspeedug]

I feel the items should be like this, the boots need to add 1 extra % to range mage and melee str, boom there is a nice nice reward.... even the range strength is enough as it is really still nice. As for eldritch veil..... it ahould be tradeable and add the thrall upgrade as its effect, make it needs the demonic mark to upgrade to eldritch veil and use crystals or whatever resource to add charges to use the effect which gives a continuous demand to do the content. The demonbane weapon remains unchanged as ita nice and good where its at. As for another reaward suggestion as this is endgame a fourth nice reward could berelated to ralos and ranul , like blessing of the sun and moon which adds more prayer bonus than radas blessing 4, but also adds a run recharge effect or adds 1 accuracy for melee and magic.... thats my suggestions that i think helps the debacle and makes it a more of a drive to do the content repeatedly so its not dead content

[@iamSmiley1]

the bowfer