Did Jesus Invalidate the Torah's Food Laws in Mark 7:1-23? (Interview w/ Dr. Logan Williams)

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David Wilber

David Wilber

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@DavidWilberBlog
@DavidWilberBlog 20 сағат бұрын
Read the paper from Dr. Logan Williams here: www.cambridge.org/core/journals/new-testament-studies/article/stomach-purifies-all-foods-jesus-anatomical-argument-in-mark-71819/FC869FEDFEB2425BEAC3029C21B5900A
@michaelicornelius
@michaelicornelius 18 сағат бұрын
Jesu didn't abolish unclean foods, we can know this because in Acts 10 & 11 when Peter has his vision just before Cornelius's people arrived, he is clear he has never eaten unclean food - if Jesus had abolished the unclean food laws then he would not have said this, further during the 40 days after resurrection and before ascension Jesus instructed the 11 opening their eyes to the scriptures and had He made all food clean then Peter would not have said what he said concerning the vision. The context of all this was that God was also for gentiles as well as Jews Acts 10:28 Then he said to them, “You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. But God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean. - Don't forget that the status of clean/unclean did not commence post Exodus but Noah was told to bring 7 pairs of clean and 1 pair of unclean animals on to the ark.
@XavierPutnam
@XavierPutnam 14 сағат бұрын
Thank you for this interview!!
@johnnymcfalls1812
@johnnymcfalls1812 17 сағат бұрын
Was an amazing discussion. Love seeing your work David!
@user-fn6vm5tb8p
@user-fn6vm5tb8p 13 сағат бұрын
You are truly blessed! I have been eagerly seeking answers on this topic with no definitive answer. Just yesterday at breakfast I was desperately searching for the answer and now you post this video. Thank you so much! Praise the Lord Jesus ❤
@jackwebster9246
@jackwebster9246 15 сағат бұрын
It's really very simple. Not our law, not our covenant. You are clean already by his word. How can a dead man, alive by the spirit be defiled? The just live by faith.
@educational4434
@educational4434 13 сағат бұрын
I personally believe as R.L. Solberg on the issue of Jesus fulfilling the law at the cross, but I disagree that this applied to the health laws in Leviticus, and instead agree with you that the dietary laws and health laws are still in place. Because remember everyone: Peter's vision was not about food. He explains that later. It was about the fact that Gentiles were now acceptable and were not to be called unclean. It was visionary iconography that was presented to Peter. And it had nothing to do with clean and unclean food you put in your mouth. There still remains clean and unclean foods for the human body.
@Bobbychildree
@Bobbychildree 12 сағат бұрын
Please check Jeremiah 31:31 on just what the New Covenant in Messiah’s blood entails. It is not at all what Solberg teaches.
@timrawlings9774
@timrawlings9774 18 сағат бұрын
Hello David, great interview. Can we trust K on foods as permissible to eat? Example Jell-O
@denisestacey3681
@denisestacey3681 18 сағат бұрын
What goes into the body doesn't defile you,but what comes out. Hebrews Hate,violence,lies,gossip,etc.
@johnnymcfalls1812
@johnnymcfalls1812 18 сағат бұрын
Yes! So the rebellion that’s already in a person that they use to justify eating unclean meat is what has already defiled them before they ate the prohibited meat. Exactly right! Wish more people understood that!
@DaniellaR-xp4cp
@DaniellaR-xp4cp 15 сағат бұрын
​@johnnymcfalls1812 so what about when yeshua says we who believe are a new creation in him? And we strive to do better morally and physically does that count? I'm confused with all this.
@denisestacey3681
@denisestacey3681 12 сағат бұрын
@@DaniellaR-xp4cp WE still don't eat unclean foods,keep yourself clean cause He His Spirit dwells in us. Read the other comment before yours.
@denisestacey3681
@denisestacey3681 12 сағат бұрын
@DaniellaR-xp4cp That was your first comment duh.
@denisestacey3681
@denisestacey3681 12 сағат бұрын
Never mind the was Johnny's. Lol
@msisson
@msisson 5 сағат бұрын
This is an admirable effort at setting the record straight on Mark 7:1-23. It makes many laudable points which demonstrate the fatal flaws within the traditional interpretation. However, I believe Dr. Williams too quickly dismisses the "it was never the case" argument as antinomian. 1 ) In Mark 7, we’re seeing Jesus fulfill one of Judaism’s expectations of Messiah: “When he, about whom it is written, lowly and riding upon an ass (Zech. 9:9) will come...he will elucidate for them the words of the Torah...and elucidate for them their errors.” -Genesis Rabba 98:9 Yes, the controversy is about eating with unwashed hands. However, it is worth considering that Jesus used the occasion to not only reject the Pharisee’s extrabiblical tradition, >>>but also to correct His audience’s fundamental understanding of dietary law.>A more plausible option is that Jesus is correcting His audience’s understanding of the source of defilement.>In Mk 7:20-23, Jesus says defilement comes from within a person, not from consuming food which is ritually unclean or inherently treif. Thus, defilement comes not from eating that which is inherently unclean, but from defying G-d’s commandment.>NOT the inherent uncleanness of some creatures. No creature (man nor beast) was created inherently unclean. Only G-d’s declaration in Leviticus 11 made some foods unclean to the Jew.>Jesus is correcting any misconception that some creatures were created inherently unclean and pointing out that any defilement comes only from the heart of one who eats unlawfully.>inherently unclean,>the words of Paul in Rom 14:14, and Peter in Acts 10:28, make it clear that foods were not created inherently clean or unclean anymore than men were. All foods and men are sanctified through the Word of G-d alone. Just as G-d declared some animals unclean to His people in Leviticus, with sublime symetry He declared G-dfearing gentiles clean to His people in Acts.
@raptnred
@raptnred 6 сағат бұрын
I don't think most outside Hebrew/Jewish culture understand the difference between CLEAN/UNCLEAN vs. PROHIBITED/NOT PROHIBITED which makes understanding Commandments regarding FOOD confusing. CLEAN/UNCLEAN has to do ONLY with RITUAL PURITY. PROHIBITED/NOT PROHIBITED defines what ACTUALLY IS considered FOOD according to YHWH. Obedience to Commandments IS submission to YHWH'S will. YHWH sets Laws for obedience & whatever other mysteries He chooses. Just bc something can be put in a mouth & ingested doesn't mean it IS food or that it SHOULD be food. As an Example group: (lamb, pork, goat, snake, 🖍 crayons). According to non-jewish culture (us), any above but the crayons can be food even though they also can be eaten & passed in excrement. BUT...According to YHWH only lamb & goat are EVEN considered food, the snake & pork is no different than the crayons. They ARE NOT food. Clean/Unclean have their own set of definitions according to YHWH in the Torah. There are No scriptures doing away with these Commandments, Yeshua did NOT defy The Father by re-defining the Torah or "nailing them to the cross." Quite the contrary! He came to uphold it & redeem us from the Penalty of Death. Matt. 5:17-19
@davidfortune1997
@davidfortune1997 7 сағат бұрын
Great discussion guy's! My take on this has always been that there is a distinction that is made between what is food, and what is not food. Prohibited animals are not food! in the context of Mark we are talking about whether foods that are not prohibited can be mishandled and ritually defile you, not whether animals that are not considered food can defile you.
@Jasperkins7
@Jasperkins7 13 сағат бұрын
Wow Wilber actually defends unorthodox truth ever so often....rare. Makin daddy proud! By the way no need to back up your teaching with scholars/studies/journals; God's word is all we need. Jesus never used famous rabbinical scholars to solidify his teachings; only the scriptures and real world parallel examples.
@Trompie01
@Trompie01 10 сағат бұрын
Thank you both for this discussion. Great content and lots to think about. Blessings and Shalom
@loubosarge3607
@loubosarge3607 7 сағат бұрын
This has been fascinating! Keep these kinds of interviews coming please!
@Exodus--bx3dd
@Exodus--bx3dd 17 сағат бұрын
Under the law contact with the sick or dead or the sinner defiles a man , how come Jesus could do those things but not defile himself? Jesus is true Holiness...carnal things cannot defile true holiness How can not washing hands make it OK to go into the homes of a Gentile.. yet to eat a pig is as vile under law as going into a Gentiles house. Christ abolished one he abolished them all. They carry the same weight under law.
@Bobbychildree
@Bobbychildree 12 сағат бұрын
According to the anti-nomians even poop is clean now.
@ChrisMusante
@ChrisMusante 18 сағат бұрын
Interesting... only in the esophagus? Very interesting.
@jeraldkampbell2742
@jeraldkampbell2742 15 сағат бұрын
Key Word All Foods What Did He Consider Food
@ChrisMusante
@ChrisMusante 18 сағат бұрын
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@WDYD
@WDYD 10 сағат бұрын
Mashiach did not change any law!!!
@TGYTS
@TGYTS 10 сағат бұрын
Serious question, which I have never heard anyone in torah address: By what provision within the law was Jesus's sin sacrifice made legal?
@DavidWilberBlog
@DavidWilberBlog 10 сағат бұрын
Do you think Jesus was a Levitical sacrifice?
@DannyYt-y5h
@DannyYt-y5h 18 сағат бұрын
Yeshua did not invalidate Levitical food laws.
@michaelicornelius
@michaelicornelius 18 сағат бұрын
The distinction of clean/unclean animals was from the beginning Noah told to bring 7 pairs clean and 1 pair unclean into the ark.
@ChrisMusante
@ChrisMusante 18 сағат бұрын
GOT IT.
@gsburmaster
@gsburmaster 13 сағат бұрын
Paul says in 1 Timothy 4:3 that in the last days some will forbid marriage and certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving.
@gsburmaster
@gsburmaster 13 сағат бұрын
He also calls these teachings the teachings of demons
@Jamie-Russell-CME
@Jamie-Russell-CME 18 сағат бұрын
If a witch is eaten by an elephant and survives coming out the other side, do you have to permit her to live?
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