Did Jody Make The Perfect Diver? 5 Reasons To Buy, and 5 To Avoid The Erebus Origin

[@NicholasSadlier]

Your considered and super-thoughtful reviews are always top notch. 👌👍

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. 🤜

[@demonstructie]

I'm not in this Jody character's personality cult and the watch itself does nothing to make me want it. So unfortunately it's a big old noperino from me.

[@jaredstephenson6468]

I've heard a lot of people mention sharp edges but I didn't experience this on either my red or purple Erebus. I could only pick one to keep, so I kept the red one, and this is THE best "everyday" watch. It is a bit heavy, but it feels well-built, it's legible, and very comfortable.

[@darrensmith6999]

You and Jody are my favorite 2 watch Chanel's and thank you for both of your content much appreciated (:

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. I appreciate it. 👍

[@larrydalton2205]

Very useful kind of review since everyone should already know the details. I bought the watch for two reasons even though I really didn't need more divers. First, to support and thank Jody as you point out and second to add a teal colorway into my collection. So many colors available.

[@howardmckenna]

It looks like a Sinn on a budget and thats no bad thing.

[@xgford94]

Supporting Jody was why I purchased mine … I think of it like Patreon with a gift, but it great value as well. No2 look like the real deal though 🎉

[@chrisdavis8399]

This was a hard pass for me when it was released. It’s completely uninspiring and has nothing we haven’t seen a million times before. The new one is a much better effort but again very little that hasn’t been seen before. This might be a good choice for the first time watch buyer who wants a diver. If Jody is in it for the long run, he needs to come up with an Erebus design language or DNA if you will like Direnzo or Lorier to secure a long term following rather than rely on “I’ll buy it to support Jody”. That idea will wear thin. Good honest review Shane.

[@jamesR1990]

All of which he's already admitted and covered. He explained he wanted to build the brand on designs he knew would work based upon the market before going more unique

[@scottlauren3145]

I unfortunately agree. As much as I want to support Jody, their designs are simply way too "safe" and do nothing for me. The Ascent is much nicer and more my style but I have so many very similar looking watches, I just know I'd have a honeymoon period for a few weeks and then it would get neglected.

[@andrewd7586]

Jody’s about to launch his third version btw.

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

@@andrewd7586Knowing Jodi is trying to cater to WIS’s limited tastes, it must either be a no date Explorer or a mOoN wAtCh. Couldn’t possibly be a dress watch, everybody knows the proper watch to wear with a suit is a 15mm thick diver on a bracelet. 200m WR minimum in case you fall into the champagne fountain at the black tie ball. The “dynamic pressure” of the sparkling wine can ruin movements.

[@ThePlaiibox]

Agreed. Very generic designs we've seen a million times before. Stealing ideas from other well known pieces. Be brave. Be different and carve your own path

[@eoinbarry8237]

Excellent review. Nails it perfectly. Personally the strap pack saved it. Black rubber. Black dial. Matching date wheel. Extreme legibility. But, it's still a bit rough in places. Also aspects of the launch were a bit naively done that didn't reward early adopters. But all in all, he's a nice enough fella and reasonable watch at the price point. Needs to consider the returns policy though. Better to be realistic and charge a few more quid to improve QC or fund a reasonable approach to the warranty that does not piss people off. Thanks Shane!

[@AndraJevtovic]

Wasn’t easy for you to do this review, and I think you did great job. Concerning the watch, it’s too generic, second one as well. He is trying to make a watch to satisfy reviewers needs, thus not providing anything original. Jody needs to focus on creativity and originality. Every watch has flaws, but if you love the watch you love it with flaws as well

[@MichaelV89]

That is 350 us converted that is 530 AUD, production is in hong kong,that is a lot of profit for Jody and Steven.

[@RelativeTime]

I've heard it said that typically a watch costs about 1/3 to make from what they are sold for.

[@adk7962]

This is the perfect assessment of this watch. My first reason was to support Jody, but my second reason was that I was looking for a white dial dive watch. I genuinely like my Origin, but I don’t think anyone was blown away by the design (Jody is the first to admit it). Thanks again for the great review!

[@andrewd7586]

Shane I’m an Aussie & honestly this really didn’t appeal to me, besides I have enough divers so passed on this model. However I really like Jody’s new Ascent & ordered the malachite on the J bracelet!👍🏼😎

[@Trapvision3D]

Perfect review. I appreciate the different points of view despite you receiving the watches from Jody. Much respect!💯

[@BetamaxBabe]

You're spot on as to why I didn't get an Origin - I already have a great diver and haven't wanted another one since. That said, it's a very attractive watch. All of the color options look good, but that purple one is my favorite. I did pre-order the enamel blue Ascent.

[@romybuenaventura3133]

I wouldnt mind paying an extra $100 for Titanium case and bracelet for this model

[@mikeellis4345]

No. It’s awful .. it looks like he and his partner were inspired by the plethora of Ali Express parts to put those things together and then offer them at inflated prices with a hellloooo and welcome to … “JUST ONE MORE WATCH” … which is exactly what those things are, and exactly what you’d expect from just one more you tuber promoting Ali Express junk ad finitum such as he regularly does. Ughhh. No thanks. It’s a Wombat .. Waste Of Money Brains And Time.

[@BJM-Florida]

dive watch wearer since I was a youth I just discovered your channel and Jody's yesterday, so I'll watch many of the non-Chinese dive watch review that you and he have made. Your quality is excellent.

[@chuckmontgomery7571]

I think like many people, if you bought one, you found a colorway you maybe didn't have, and were happy to support Jody. No regrets on that front, even if it's not the best watch.

[@gadgetbeacon]

Some great points here. My biggest takeaway is that I think I need that black dial Origin 🥵

[@Tickerman]

You would think someone as experienced in watches as Jody would come up with a more interesting aesthetic. This is just a super boring watch to look at. Sorry!

[@morgan97475]

If I didn't already have a diver, I'd seriously consider this one. Great looking watch.

[@CyberSammael]

I think that this video highlights a potential challenge with this watch - it's a great entry level diver, but Jodys audience are not typically looking for an entry level anything. I also try to ignore 'value' as a reason to buy a watch these days. If this was $100-$150 more expensive, would I buy it? Because value won't mean much in 12 months if that was the main reason to buy it.

[@SteelHand071]

Jody did say that the flat link bracelet was recommended for those with smaller wrists while the curved link was for larger wrists. I went with the flat link and it fits me very well.

[@אלכסס-ח5ג]

This is just another diver and its boring to me. However i really like the new watches he released now.

[@lassejupin6684]

That is a no go. What an ugly disappointing watch…..

[@vorollo]

Everything about the Origin has been said. However not by everybody... I the meanwhile the reviews are becoming more boring than the watch itself.

[@RelativeTime]

So this wasn't a good format to talk about the watch?

[@StrangersIteDomum]

Islander makes the best entry diver.

[@UGA.D]

Excellent review! I DO already have a lot of other great divers... so I just got a different COLOR for the Origin! HAHAHAHA It is a FANTASTIC diver! And the bezel action is second only to my Tudor Pelagos.

[@Mackster248]

Great specs but I buy watches for its looks and this, along with the brand name, looks and sounds like a typical aliexpress random watch that took inspiration from Helm and Sinn. I hope Jody and his brand find some sort of brand cohesion because their new follow up field watch looks nothing like this. Usually brands have a distinct look within their whole lineup. Makes me feel like they are already abandoning this design language.

[@wambugumassive]

"In-n-Out"? Yep, the best budget 🍔🍟🧋! (When I lived in LA, if I wanted to "scratch the burger itch", there was only one option). Burger analogy... The Erebus Origin? Nope, not quite an "In-n-Out", sorry. (Needless to say, I like what Jody is doing) ...It's more like a "Whopper", perhaps? The Origin (also) looks quite chunky in the pics. Sticking to the burger analogy, the Whopper is "flame grilled" and for my taste, is generally a "tastier option" than a Big Mac, so Jody's "Whopper" is a "nearly but not quite".

[@TheGrenadier97]

I'd call his first watch a "safe design", nothing too bold, nothing too bad, somehow generic. Unimpressive for me aesthetically but can't complain at a dive watch that looks basic like a tool - that's on the very origin of dive watches i believe. He got his brand talked about and the necessary start and now released a second watch that fills the gap left by watches like the Seiko SARBs, but better executed it seems. All this indicate a good march forward by Erebus in my opinion.

[@TheGrenadier97]

And of course, excellent review!

[@Humaftw]

I considered getting one, but Erebus happens to be the name of one of my most hated fictional characters and I just can't get over it.

[@RelativeTime]

From Warhammer 40k?

[@Humaftw]

@@RelativeTime Haha, exactly!

[@pauldevey8628]

I like Fatboys burgers

[@gregalonzo747]

As a native Californian it is refreshing to hear someone bring In-n-Out down a peg. I also think that fries leave a lot to be desired, unless you want grease. Check out Umami Burgers. In my opinion, the best burgers in LA. 🍔

[@RelativeTime]

If I'm in LA I'll check them out.

[@gregalonzo747]

@@RelativeTime I have been living and working in Innsbruck, Austria for the past couple of years. There's a place here that rivals Tommy's Burgers. Who would have thought))) 😉

[@whatsthebigfndeal]

I want the red dial version

[@ThemysteriousMrP]

Thanks for the review Shane! ❤😊

[@timrosenthal46]

Big fan of Jody and his channel but I'm not a fan of this their first watch. Thankfully their second offering looks the goods, a great looking gada, and I wish them all the best with it.

[@johnswick7108]

I woulda bought one if the indices were applied.

[@RelativeTime]

These days flat dials just don't do it for me. I like more depth, so I understand.

[@johnm9285]

Super thoughtful and tough but fair. I think you got everything right. It speaks well of you that Jody chose your channel for a review. You should have WAY more subs than you do. I almost bought one just to support Jody. I want his company to succeed. I have a feeling he could end up making very good watches given the large number he puts his hands on. I did appreciate the adjust on the fly bracelet. This should be the standard from now on, even at this price point and it’s feeling to me very slow to roll out.

[@craigreed2747]

Here is how my process went with this watch: 1. Donated my blue Orient Mako to a silent auction event. 2. Realized I didn't have a blue watch in the collection. 3. Jody is one of the channels I watch and he released the Origin. 4. I had a little extra bourbon one evening... 5. An Erebus showed up a few months later It is a good watch. Nothing special. but it looks good. wears well, has a nice "tooly" look and mine is running within COSC. It filled niche and in my book, it's a keeper.

[@RelativeTime]

Are you looking at the new one?

[@craigreed2747]

@@RelativeTime I thought about it, but really need "Just One More Watch" at this time. I just picked up a Vaer automatic field watch as a retirement gift to myself.

[@josephmarchitelli8138]

Jodi had said the flat bracelet was the one for those who had smaller wrists. So I bought it. Frankly I have played with it removing and adding links, using the micro adjustment and can't get a comfortable fit. Even the edges seem a little sharp to me. Maybe the curved version would be more comfortable but I am not spending more money to find out. Great watch but just get the strap version.

[@ozmondos]

Love Jody's channel but both Erebus models seem very uninspired. A lot of the people who bought these divers are selling them. However, there's no doubt that both new releases are great value for the money.

[@LamarFaciane]

Double Double? I've been through your experience and In &Out is a McDonald's alternative. I think this watch is a mishmash not unlike any Singapore/Chinese watch.

[@RelativeTime]

That's just crazy talk. In-N-Out is much better than McDonald's. 🍔

[@kaczynski2333]

It's boring.

[@AMT-xh9ry]

any one wanting affordable automatic dive watch at that price, there are always discounted seiko and orient watches. at least one knows what he is getting , not that ali express one . at one third of that price one can get invicta pro diver even .

[@patrickhartmann1540]

Great review and agree on all points. I ordered the orange dial since I didn’t have one(or h-link) and as a fan of Jody’s channel, it was fun to participate. However, I agree that it wears large and the bracelet is sharp in hand if less so on wrist. Still, it provides a nice option in my collection of mostly sub 40mm vintage style divers.

[@douglascheesman]

Re: In-N-Out; the burger is still like $5.50. It’s a crazy bargain, and while it’s not the BEST, it is great and even better for the price. This is a perfect analogy.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks, it’s a strange analogy, but I thought it worked.

[@j1d7s]

This was a great, meaningful way to review the watch and a quite original, too, thanks! I own the purple dial one and I can confirm that it really is a very well made watch for the price (and even more so if you don't need to pay import taxes like me). I really like the watch and did not regret buying it. I have to admit that one of the reasons to get one was to support Jody in his new endeavour since I have enjoyed so many of his reviews and he is such a good influence in the community.

[@douglascheesman]

I picked up one of these, just to be on the “ground floor” of Erebus and see what was what. I opted for the Purple dial, as I think the bright and “out there” colors are what differentiate this watch. Without the colors screaming at you, it is too down the middle.

[@Mrtellitlikeitis]

His watch is a cash grab. Uninspiring

[@RelativeTime]

What do you think of his second watch? Still a bit of a mish-mash, but perhaps a little more refined.

[@jhoag2577]

Get the strap pack even if you do not get the watch.

[@claudtalkz2194]

Just Two More Watch

[@RelativeTime]

Soon to be 3

[@younusimam-thesalamproject6340]

I love the flatlink bracelet, hope its an option for other watches

[@ajcallaway123]

Considered review and had very similar thoughts of the new release as well.

[@legionnairegonk4425]

Good job not holding back on cons. It's too generic and 'blah' for me. Considering Jody's big and unique personality to my eyes (surprisingly) this has nothing much but price going for it - his current second watch not much better either from initial views. That's not to rule cost out as a selling point, but it's not enough in a crowded diver marketplace.

[@MusicianGreg]

in the world of steeldive/sugess/san martin/ixdao/cronos I don't know if this watch will take off..

[@PK-mx7nf]

He did not. Tudor 58 is the perfect diver

[@An_inquisitive_thinker]

Nah. I'll settle for Pagani Design 1667 if to speak about something of that Tudor 58 looks.

[@NCSheriff7]

@@An_inquisitive_thinker😂

[@sumnercruz4271]

The logo looks like the Henry archer logo

[@stephenhendricks6790]

Here is a sixth reason to avoid purchasing the Erebus Origin. If, like me, you purchase an Erebus Origin and discover within a week or so that the watch fails to update the date automatically at midnight and freezes between the prior and new date, you'll assume you should return it under warranty. Surprise! You'll find you're responsible for the cost of shipping the watch to Australia. A price that in the US will be at least $50 without insurance and well over $100 with minimal insurance coverage. That, by the way, is not a common practice.For example, one of Erebus' major competitors (Boderry) cover return shipping costs for watches with issues that emerge in the first months of ownership. I initially purchased the Erebus Origin in part to support Jody after seeing and admiring his reviews for several years. I won't make that mistake again.

[@RelativeTime]

Ouch sorry to hear that. So was the date not working at all?

[@stephenhendricks6790]

@@RelativeTime That's correct. It fails to advance the date at midnight and instead freezes halfway between the previous date and the current date. I wasn't so disappointed by the failure of the watch. After all, it's a cheap watch presumably manufactured in China. What was unacceptable was that Erebus failed to describe their warranty policy in any detail on their website and failed to take any responsibility for the shipping cost to redeem the warranty. As noted above, that differs radically from Boderry, a major Erebus competitor.

[@styraxopoponax8294]

It's a Helm Vanuatu without the year-long waiting list.

[@RelativeTime]

Or longer... Although they seem to be releasing more frequently these days.

[@twitchyjambo]

Look forward to his next one 😀👍

[@Mister_Phafanapolis]

6. You already have enough divers. If you’re a WIS who’s been collecting for a few years you probably have half a dozen divers (dress divers, casual divers, deep sea divers, hArD uSe divers, muh rugged tOoL wAtCh divers, bEaTeR divers.) Buy another style of watch or stop buying watches. (Brought to you by the _Center for Dive Watch Haters_ and the _Institute for Watch Idiot Savant Minimization.)_

[@RelativeTime]

Probably falls under the first con. Unless you meant "you've had enough of divers". Which is also a good reason for some.

[@rocklinrc3729]

What?!?!? I love In N Out fries!!!!

[@RelativeTime]

😲‼️

[@philclinton9430]

You are a class act Sir! Review, well done.

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you kindly!

[@MPiKMS72]

It seems like a perfectly competent yet biring design. Nothing to really criticize yet nothing stands out either. For the money I would kind of expect a bit more, maybe a Miyota 9000 movement or something? If someone "needed" a dive watch for their collection it wouldn't be a bad place to start though. Kind of the Honda Accord of divers?

[@Walnutman5700]

Nice job Shane. I own a blue dial Erebus and I am very happy with it, along with my Helm's! Good to hear some valid cons. It is a great starter watch! Keep up the good work! How about something on these Seagull movements movements that are all over now? Do they really stop working after about a year? You da man!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! Do you mean the seagull chronographs?

[@Walnutman5700]

Yes

[@RelativeTime]

@@Walnutman5700 from what I've heard the design is based on an old solid movement. A brand that went out of business a while ago, but I can't remember the name. However just like with the pt5000 how they are put together makes a world of difference. So it can be a crap shoot. I know when loreir first used them they bought a bunch and went over each with a fine tooth comb before picking out the best to use. I also remember when vesuviate (microbrand) used an automatic version in a release they tested the prototypes for a full year before launching their Kickstarter. Actually had each one on a winder the entire time to make sure they kept going So they can be good, but if you're buying one off AliExpress there is still the chance of getting a lemon.

[@brianmccord7387]

@@RelativeTime Shane it was the Venus 150 [ed: 175] which dates from the 1940s or 50s; Venus sold the movement to Sea-Gull in order to fund the production of their then new movement, the Venus 175 [ed: 178]. Around the same time, Citizen sold a 17 jewel hand wind movement and the machinery to make it to HMT, which then used that simple movement until the mid 2000s when the company all but fell apart. I heard from a collector that Citizen then wanted to buy back the machinery after HMT stopped producing the movements, but the deal fell apart, and the machinery was scrapped.

[@coopdivi]

@@RelativeTime Hi Shane, the Sea-Gull chrono movement is based on the Venus 175, which was used by many Swiss and other brands in the 1940s, 50s and 60s. Breitling used them quite a lot, and the famous vintage 806 Navitimer has the Venus 178 movement, developed from the 175. China bought the original plans and tooling for the 175 from Venus, who were happy to sell, so the Sea-Gull movement is a genuine 175 and not a cheap knock-off. Loved your review of the Origin -- I have the black-dialled version on the curved H-link bracelet and agree with every point you made. Anyone ever told you that you look like Carey Holzman's long-lost younger brother? 😁 (Carey has a KZbin channel dealing with computer builds and repairs.)

[@ssleddens]

More Junk

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

Great review Shane. I love the way you went about this one. This one doesn't do anything for me personally. The newer model that Jody has announced however, I think looks great though.

[@RelativeTime]

Supposedly there is a 3rd one coming soon too. Hope he isn't pushing too far too quickly.

[@HonestWatchReviewsHWR]

@@RelativeTime That does seem rather quick. Is he trying to keep up with the AliExpress brands 😆

[@RelativeTime]

@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR maybe 😂 or maybe Marc. He seems to have a new model every couple weeks.

[@mk84142]

Great review!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks!👍

[@bonnland]

great review!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! 👍

[@Bob_Smith19]

Five Guys is the best burger for the money. Even w/ how high the cost is. I travel for work, have tired them all and have no region bias. But to be fair, they’re all fast food burgers and your money is better spent elsewhere. Which ties directly into the watch. Spend your money elsewhere on a known brand. I’m glad Jody is trying to diversify and create a revenue stream outside of KZbin. Because it’s simply a matter of when the money from YT stops. But I do not trust him as an unbiased reviewer because he now has skin in the game. And I don’t like his watches because they’re boring, derivative and sold to you on specs. I’d make this analogous to Homer Simpson designing a car.

[@RelativeTime]

So what's the five guys of the watch world?

[@marlowkaplan3584]

Way back burger is better and cheaper

[@RelativeTime]

@@marlowkaplan3584 haven't heard of them. Looks like there are a couple in DFW, I'll have to check them out. If you're ever in Dallas two great local chains are Rodeo Goat and Twisted Root. More sit-down restaurants, but amazing burgers.

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@marlowkaplan3584Prices are store dependent w/ them. I do prefer a potato roll. But they are usually so poorly run I don’t bother going there. I don’t like waiting 20+ minutes.

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@RelativeTimeGrand Seiko. Yes, they cost thousands of dollars. But they are the best for the money bar none. It’s a rare case where you get more than what you pay. You can argue your money would be better spent elsewhere. Because they are harder to move if you want to sell. They are not for everyone.

[@gregs.8895]

In-N-Out > Whattaburger though

[@RelativeTime]

Whataburger is good, but I have to agree with you. For no other reason than they have never screwed up my order. Whereas with Whataburger it's always a risk. I mean whatburger once forgot the burger patty in my burger. How do you do that?

[@StrangersIteDomum]

​@@RelativeTimeWhataburger? What burger!

[@Nefville]

Your In and Out metaphor is 100% spot on. That is very clever and accurate. The same thing happened to me and my dad. All of our family in Cali keep talking about In and Out yet when we went they were just another burger chain. The 3.6 Roentgen of burger chains. On the flip side we here in Kentucky rant and rave about White Castle however in our case White Castle is actually unique and very good, though I'm not sure I want to hear the watch metaphor that connects to White Castle. But on point, this watch is extremely vanilla. Not exceptional, not offensive. A safe and pragmatic move by the cautious owner of a new brand. Jody needs to get established and then I'm sure he'll branch out so while this diver is not for me, I expect he will make something more like his second model that is. *PS okay yeah he did make something for me, the new Ascent in blue aventurine and once I see a review I'm almost certain I'll buy one so there you go.

[@RelativeTime]

I've heard the quality of the Ascent is better, but haven't seen one myself. So take that with a grain of salt. Dave has one for review, so I'd keep an eye out for that. Now you got me wondering what the white castle of the watch world is... Probably a smaller straight forward tool watch.

[@bignz721]

I got the white dial Origin. I feel like I was sold false goods as it is clearly more metallic than matte white (they have since changed the description to 'white/silver'). Otherwise, this watch is killer! The rounded H-link strap is insane. Bezel mechanics are top notch & it is overall very well balanced. Still ... I need a true white diver. Chr Ward, here I come

[@fredericktennant9151]

I love this watch but I already have the Helm in both Titainium and Steel, and I was about to pull the trigger on the blue until I found that our delivery company are stinging us for an extra for this product and its really making it difficult to justify the purchase for me. shame as its clearly a cash grab at our expence.

[@WhyWeBuyIt]

It's hard to compete with Helm when you are looking at value for money. The Erebus wishes it was a Helm.

[@RelativeTime]

What’s the delivery company doing?

[@fredericktennant9151]

@@RelativeTimeDHL is adding an extra 40 to 60 pounds to the delivery as admin charges worst still sometimes for me, I have to travel to their depot to pickup the parcel because they said no one was in when they tried to deliver despite they did not bring the parcel to the door just the miss you card and ran off, here in the UK they are not very good.

[@finesse49]

It's yet another generic and not particularly good looking diver.

[@RelativeTime]

In some ways that’s sort of what he was going for. Nothing too crazy, just mainstream (which is often boring) at a good price.

[@halfpastblog]

This is a well reasoned and thought out review. Thanks, Shane. This one isn't for me but I hope it does well.

[@watchalot919]

Great brand name, and good specs. Too many colours, and in my opinion it's too large. I do fancy his second offering though

[@cutlass23]

You've just reached PEAK AMERICAN with that burger analogy haha. Thank you, great review as always!

[@RelativeTime]

Lol. Thanks. 🍔

[@joniden2215]

Those comments about In n Out be fightin words.

[@RelativeTime]

Which part?

[@mikeb3923]

😅

[@joniden2215]

@@RelativeTime They're not the best burgers in the world. I cannot fathom hearing such blasphemy.

[@Jason-hv4eu]

Good review! I can agree with all the points you made. I purchased the black color way. I believe it is a great watch and great value. And, one of my reasons for purchasing was to support Jody. His personality is unique. His content is enjoyable. To the best of my knowledge, he is the first KZbinr to launch a successful watch brand.

[@RelativeTime]

As far as I know he is. I know a few others have attempted to sell a watch before, but Jody seems to be the first that's fully committed to a full brand. I just hope he isn't going to far too fast as people are already talking about a 3rd watch.

[@watchchimp3102]

My sentiments exactly! I thought about buying one just to be supportive, but I already have 3 Helms. Additionally, the blue was my favorite color, but it looks just like the Pelagos I already have! 😎

[@RelativeTime]

What do you think of the new one? I'm hearing a lot of people say they like it, but on the fence about buying it at the same time.

[@watchchimp3102]

@@RelativeTime I like it, but I have the same issue again. I'm not a GADA watch guy; it's kind of antithetical to collecting (or accumulating) watches. I enjoy the individuality and purpose of every watch. I'm a field watch fiend and I'm hoping that's what their next offering is! 👍🏼

[@karlsenula9495]

I'd if you don't have one of the four brands mentioned in the beginning of the video (RZE, Jelm, Zelos, Phoibos) this is a good watch to consider ... Or if you just want to support Jody ... If you have 1-4 (I have two and low on the waiting list for a 3rd) of the other brands this may be a pass.

[@paddypower5965]

I think it is great value but I felt it was a cross between being too generic and a Helm Vanuatu homage. I'll be able to buy a titanium Vanuatu before the year is out so I'll hold off for that. I know Jody said they didn't want to take too much of a risk. The second one has more creativity with some really nice dials. I hope if they make a diver again they design it from scratch rather than borrowing design elements from other watches.

[@S-Ltd1000]

Its an okay watch but predictably influenced by the Helm Vanuatu. If you can stomach the 2 year wait list the Helm is the one to go for.

[@stavros_katsopr]

Well, saw Jody at Scottish Watch Reviews, said he will attend some place in America, where he will unveil his 3rd design watch. Guess No4 (+?) is already on some draw plans... That's a big turn for him, his channel, guess the whole watch reviewing thing. Not sure how i feel about all this, got a (somehow) sour taste in my mouth, my brain jumped in a weird mode too...

[@RelativeTime]

Well as long as it doesn’t become the focus of his channel and keeps it at a distance I think it’s ok. Like I think it’s ok to announce it, show off a watch once, but that’s about it. That he shouldn’t ever be promoting it in every video.

[@lukewalker1051]

Jody's watch does a lot of things wrong as you discussed. Pretty surprising really as Jody taste is generally pretty mainstream and sensible. If you think about it, to be a ground breaker in the watch space is extremely hard. Either replicate iconic watches aka pay homage to great watches and be susceptible to scorn for falling short, or posture watch designs more toward heretical or outlier design which of course shuns tradition of what's popular for a reason and risk violating aesthetic normalcy. Hard pass. PS. I unsubscribed to Jody's channel a while ago because of his dishonest click bait video titles.

[@RelativeTime]

These days with micros it’s pretty hard to please everyone. Like you said, you either go to homagey, and take the heat, or you go to far and everyone thinks it’s too strange. As for clickbait.. yeah it’s an unfortunate side effect of the algorithm these days. As it won’t even let you current subscribers know you have something new out, unless the click through rate on the thumbnail is good.

[@TheBimmer74]

If I was in the market for an entry level diver, I would buy one of these. The design is uninspiring, but it is a very functional watch. I especially like the large amount of real estate for lume to be applied on the hands. It makes legibility at night superior. The reason I keep buyer Seiko watches is because they always drill the lugs. Why don't these microbrands drill the lugs?

[@RelativeTime]

Partly extra cost, and sometimes it looks odd with the design. But I'd prefer it if they all had it too. At least here the bracelet has quick release which helps a lot.

[@theclocker7406]

Awesome approach to this review. I didn’t end up getting one of these for several of the con reasons you pointed out. I already have several great divers, and I didn’t like the flat dials, I felt the colours looked a bit washed out, almost. I also found that when I converted the price into my local currency, and added in the additional shipping costs, it suddenly wasn’t quite the bargain it seemed; when compared to other similar specked divers, that all offered free shipping. We don’t all have big budgets in this hobby, and new releases have been steadily edging their way upmarket with each new offering. Whereas brands like San Martin have been increasing their quality, remaining steady, and offer free shipping, for example.

[@RelativeTime]

Have you seen the new San Martin spin off brand? What do you think of their watch?

[@theclocker7406]

I saw it this morning, it sort of looks like they had a bunch of different ideas and threw all of them at the same watch. The strap looks good, and I kind of like the dial, as it's a bit different; however, the case looks like a big metal ashtray, the crown is ugly and too big, I'm not crazy about the hands, while the branding is really quite awful.

[@RelativeTime]

@@theclocker7406 it reminds me a bit of when Phoibos made the first great wall. Which isn't necessarily a good thing. As it was a commercial failure for them.

[@theclocker7406]

@@RelativeTime Good point; I'm hoping they'll do better with the next release, but (and it's a big but) that branding remains pretty unappealing.

[@dahak972]

If Jody has anything to do with it, it’s a hard no for me.

[@Coldpack13]

Why?

[@dahak972]

@@Coldpack13 because I don’t like anything about him. He’s an absolute asshole who’s never reviewed anything he didn’t like, unless he had to pay for it himself.

[@kendallmarks9802]

Not everyone like Jody People legit can not stand the guy

[@RelativeTime]

I’m seeing that. I’ve heard almost every other channel be complained about at some point, but usually people don’t about Jody. Guess his brand has brought it out.

[@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78]

It's okay. I like him.

[@paulgraham1465]

Yeah I stopped watching him. His mannerisms were grating and he was becoming really annoying and condescending. I think if this wasn’t his watch, it wouldn’t be talked about as much. I think it looks boring and generic. And I don’t think 350 is good value at all.

[@calmy3480]

I like him!

[@brettmeikle]

@kendallmarks9802 He speaks highly of you I hear.

[@monologic4806]

Good , fair review, Shane. The newer model looks more my style. Hope it has a Miyota mvmnt

[@RelativeTime]

I believe it does have one.

[@gilbertayala1069]

🤔🤔 NH35 FOR $350 NAH....

[@Thomas-cz2vg]

I myself am tired of all the watches with nh35. but never hear anyone say a watch is too expensive with sw 200

[@RelativeTime]

That's a good point. Mostly because sw200 is near the top of what you see before you hit in house movement. That's something I'll have to think about... When is it too much for it.

[@karlsenula9495]

Agree with all your points - spot on to my impressions as well. The Origin looks like a Helm and is in my opinion a spec monster but stylistically cache and boring now ... The second release reminds me of the dial on my Phoibos Eagle Ray and is more interesting in my opinion. I believe the brand does have a third release coming.

[@RelativeTime]

A few others have mentioned a 3rd release too. Hope he's not pushing too far too quickly.

[@johnremmy1345]

Jody is negative for the watch community! He is a just a pumper and sells his soul

[@jamesoleary1078]

integrity matter jody sold his for free watches and $$

[@romybuenaventura3133]

Elaborate pls

[@jamesoleary1078]

@@romybuenaventura3133 he takes money to push cheap watches. Viewers get stuck with watches with QC issues ect ect

[@jamesoleary1078]

@@romybuenaventura3133 I give this youtuber credit for atleast not just saying its amazing and everyone should buy it

[@dparis2172]

@@jamesoleary1078isn’t that all a part of “KZbin income”?

[@brianmurphy8154]

Very good points. I love my Origin and I have too many divers. For the price, it really is a great watch. My only niggle, nh35 instead of the hi beat miyota movement. I really like your analogy of in and out...makes perfect sense. Great video

[@RelativeTime]

👍 Thanks