I wouldn't be without my OCW-T200 Oceanus, and yes, it's thanks to your recommendation.
@chrisp.52722 ай бұрын
And the Edifices too. 👌🏼 Don’t have an Oceanus yet, but my new Edifices EFR/EFB are seriously so good. ✨ Wearing my Casio A168 lately, I think despite having a collection of 24 watches, Casio is my favorite and makes up half my collection. My next watch and last one for a little while will be the Oceanus S100. I’d love to go from Casio’s to Cartiers. 👌🏼
@larryfromwisconsin99702 ай бұрын
That is special. I like Titanium, Tough Solar, and Bluetooth. I don't think it will be necessary to open that case back for 15 or 20 years.
@rm9sbg93zxjzg2 ай бұрын
seriously getting better than most automatics these days!
@toddsmith86082 ай бұрын
Or 50 years
@sickboy86822 ай бұрын
@@rm9sbg93zxjzgthey're better in every conceivable way. By the way, I own 10 automatics, as I love them. They're just old tech that requires expensive maintenance, or if it's an nh35, replacing.
@Sankara561Ай бұрын
@@sickboy8682 10 is rookie numbers. I can replace a NH35 for what normies pay a high street jeweller to replace a battery for, although I've not had to replace a NH35 yet. A Tongzhi manual movement, a seiko quartz and a miyota quartz have needed replacing but I doubt any of the NH35s in my rotation will fail in my lifetime.
@TheGrenadier972 ай бұрын
This might be the best crystal and bezel insert i've ever seen. Very wearable dimensions and amazing thickness and weight.
@attackb53492 ай бұрын
I picked up an OCW-S100 about 6 months ago and it made all my other watches collection dust. It is really the ultimate GADA watch. G Shock in a tux.
@arielargo2 ай бұрын
Great review as always, but I think it's important to showcase some other important differences if we are going to compare with the S100. 1. This doesn't have the integrated bracelet, so this new Manta can be a strap monster. 2. Sapphire bezel and looks like better anti-reflecting coating 3. Nicer, blingier or more modern design (this is subjective) 4. Upgraded movement with Bluetooth, etc. 5. Nicer bracelet (maybe a bit busier) with adjustable clasp. 6. This Manta version has better lume than the S100. 7. The Manta may be a bit more scratch resistant since it has a sapphire bezel vs the shinny titanium bezel which shows scratch lines with time. I still prefer the simplicity of the S100, but I can appreciate this Manta for what it is. Hoping that these can go down in price in a year or so, but I'm still tempted on getting the S100. I even prefer it to the T200! I would consider this Manta in black or green. The colors and sapphire bezel makes this model too blingy, but still very cool!
@lukthere22 ай бұрын
finally a review on this model! Thanks, have been searching for one to get a better look at it. A bit highly priced..but still a nice model.
@ginocolella63732 ай бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.. love it, and its the only brand with quartz/solar movement that hits the indexes. End of discussion 👌🏻
@gregtolley34552 ай бұрын
My doctor is a watch bro, he has a stainless allergy so has to stick with gold and titanium. Man has a solid gold Zenith, JLC and Rolex, what's his favorite watch he owns? Ti Casio Oceanus lol. It's a beautiful watch.
@ryanbane2 ай бұрын
I'm assuming this works the same way as the S100 in that pulling out the crown to the first position, you have an EXTREMELY easy adjustment between time zones without losing a second of accuracy. I love wearing my S100 for flights coupled with the fact that it disappears on your wrist being such a lightweight and comfortable wear.
@JustOneMoreWatch2 ай бұрын
Indeed it does. And perpetual calendar too!
@Justme04952 ай бұрын
And just like most Citizens, the seconds hand is hitting every marker 😅 Makes you wonder, why other manufacturers can't get it right and blame tolerances within the movement for it!
@e28forever302 ай бұрын
That’s Japanese engineering for you. The Swiss can’t match it.
@nickfowler5152 ай бұрын
I believe most of these Oceanus models have independent motors for each hand which allows for adjustment after the hands are set. They're not geared together. More expensive I'd imagine, but it's effective. And while this model is over $700, the S100 and T100 can be had in the $350 range. If you're gonna sell a quartz at a premium price, it ought to have this feature.
@Mile-long-list2 ай бұрын
@@e28forever30you have it backwards. Seiko is not swiss and they're the ones who perpetually sell garbage.
@davida30252 ай бұрын
@@nickfowler515 When this adjusts time at 12:14 it looks like this only has one motor for moving the minute/hour hands. My 3-motor Pro Trek will always move both minute/hour hands independently for 1+ hour change. It's awfully thin for 3 motors. I could be wrong.
@nickfowler5152 ай бұрын
@@davida3025 interesting. My S100 moves the hands independently. When I move the seconds hand to choose time zones, only the hour hand moves.
@craighoward54862 ай бұрын
In a world awash in amazing $200 watches, $1200 usd is not "affordable" as you say I'm afraid. It is a beautiful watch, but for $1200 the list of watches in front of it that I'd like is very long. Thanks for another thorough review.
@Dragoneye-cp6fv2 ай бұрын
No other watch gives so many features though
@kobusvanrensburg40922 ай бұрын
Sounds about right. You could buy the very competent Tissot Gentleman, a G-shock and have $600 left in the kitty. But it is very impressive though.
@gtaylor27702 ай бұрын
Mine is not this particular Oceanus--it's stainless steel, not titanium--but it's still terrific, and it cost me approx. $340 brand new from a direct Japanese dealer on eBay.
@alisterwh2 ай бұрын
@@Dragoneye-cp6fv I'd say that my LCW-M100TSE-1AER does
@hieuluu66132 ай бұрын
1200 usd is in the line of some really good Orient Star, some Christopher Wards and some entry level automatic Frederique Constant, it is really hard to pick the Casio over
@michaelk70072 ай бұрын
OCW-T200 is treating me well as is. Lovely watch though.
@JustOneMoreWatch2 ай бұрын
T200 is a cracker. Cheers!
@stephenmorrissey12542 ай бұрын
This is the one I want. Titanium doesn't do it for me.
@SonFuji-p8j2 ай бұрын
The "tough mvt" kills it for me. Would have been awesome without that on the dial.
@joeymorris45892 ай бұрын
I can’t get over the “…anus” in the name. And i hate myself for it 😬😂.
@dancarthen36342 ай бұрын
wait till you see a submariner 😂
@Stephane-wj5up2 ай бұрын
@@joeymorris4589 Me too, even in french (my native tongue), it's the same word, unfortunately. Very bad naming.
@toddsmith86082 ай бұрын
@@joeymorris4589well you don't have to pronounce it that way, lol.
@fridrekr751017 күн бұрын
The text is less of a problem. What ruins it is the bright blue wave.
@Discoworx2 ай бұрын
S100 owner here. It's my best made, prettiest watch but would love it just a little bigger for my 7.25 inch wrist.
@pktsqr2 ай бұрын
My T200 (also in green) remains my preferred watch of the three-hand option, but this looks like another stunner. Even if you flatter yourself on your supposedly subtle tastes, as I do, these are sheer joy to look at and I strongly recommend trying one out. Insane build quality and wholly unique - yet coherent - designs. It is weird how dinky some of their clasps are, since the bracelets are clearly worked up with serious care.
@dmks2146Ай бұрын
recently picked up a T200 in Tokyo for 260€. a congratulatory double handed handshake and bow was included.
@JLo-w7s2 ай бұрын
I got the black dial version as an everyday compliment to my 22 yo Omega 2254.50 Seamaster. It’s brilliant and the titanium weight disappears on my 7.5” wrist. Finishing and tolerances are amazing. If you’re tempted, don’t hesitate - awesome! watch with zero downsides. 😀
@N3VURMYND2 ай бұрын
Still love my S100 but these are awesome. Loving the blue version.
@johnnyjohnny72042 ай бұрын
i'm blown away by how casio quartz hit the marks right on. i've the oceanus full on diver, a $1200 gorgeous solar/satellite control watch, and it is precisely on the markers. but i always note, i also have their $70 Marlin Duro dive watch, not a solar, and it's about 99.9% as good with hitting the markers right on. unlike seiko, which i no longer purchase from, casio is an incredible quality and QC brand.
@mapmanlxii17152 ай бұрын
Awesome watch and I like the thinness of it
@jlore63442 ай бұрын
Love those Casios and have some on my wish-list. Regarding Buyee, I learned about them from this channel and have used it to buy a few things that we can only get in Japan. I just got two JDM Seikos for basically the same price as when I saw them in Japan, with the coupons they have. For this last purchase I bought from two shops on Yahoo Auction and used Buyee's consolidation service and saved a ton on shipping too. It all worked great and the watches arrived quickly.
@williamsipe11512 ай бұрын
Ive become quite the fan of buyee, and I've actually found it to be a pretty simple. Ive gotten a T150, a T5000, and just bought a GM110EARTH-1AJR
@jozsefizsak2 ай бұрын
You introduced me to the line and I'm completely in love with their chronographs, which you have never mentioned. They're the perfect watches as far as I'm concerned. Thank you publicizing Oceanus. 😊
@andrewthomason38572 ай бұрын
I've looked at a lot of photos of the chronos, and I always come away thinking that the hour and minute hands get lost in all the complications. Do you have one? Are you able to glance at it and see what time it is, or do you really have to look closely at it?
@jozsefizsak2 ай бұрын
@@andrewthomason3857 I don't have one but watching many videos, I never had that impression. There are many models and I'm looking most closely at the more recent ones with the Bluetooth feature.and also the popular T2600.. Human perception is actually a complicated thing so it's possible that we just see them a bit differently. Scientists say we see with our brain, not with our eyes. My eye doctor says that too..
@abv19862 ай бұрын
Is the caseback steel or titanium. Colour looks different
@avavaviv12 ай бұрын
The bracelet is amazing. The links remind me of Lamborgini Aventador.
@WATCHingJames2 ай бұрын
Every time you feature one of these I become super tempted to get one.
@noobfl13 күн бұрын
i recently moved to another country, therefor i have reduce my watch collection.. all watches are gone, exept my two oceanus watches - those are just on a whole another level of greatness
@bjornclaeys32662 ай бұрын
Great video, Jody. I like their 3-handers. The other dials seem to be a bit busy for me...
@smitty0328196416 күн бұрын
Jodie, great meeting you at NYC WINDUP. I love Oceanus, but if your in the United States, you can no longer get them serviced since Oceanus was pulled from the U.S. market. In order to get an Oceanus serviced. It must be sent overseas. So for $1000.00 and that service roadblock. I don't think so. Also I don't understand why Casio puts puts Casio and tough movement on the dial. It would be like Toyota putting Toyota below the Lexus name or symbol.
@CatBroiler2 ай бұрын
Got myself a Oceanus P2000, which is their ISO diver, for a pretty good price used recently. It's incredibly well finished, it's detailed, and I know it'll be perfectly reliable for the next 2 decades or so. Honestly, it's reduced my will to buy more watches (something I did quite a bit before), because I know I'm not going to get better than the P2000 unless I stump up a lot of cash, especially since I paid under £400 for it.
@WH2503982 ай бұрын
Also a stupidly good Casio: The efr s108d,. Super thin, great looks, and sapphire!
@SamP.H-t1r2 ай бұрын
There are a lot of gems in the edifice line. The new silver panda sapphire edifice efb-730d-7av looks amazing.
@hibernopithecus75002 ай бұрын
The _real_ Casioak. Those & the EQB 1100s.
@hibernopithecus75002 ай бұрын
@@SamP.H-t1rRight. Edifice is super underrated. Overshadowed by Oceanus & completely eclipsed (at least on watch YT) by G Shock.
@edmonguy2 ай бұрын
Gorgeous, as all Oceanus watches are. I'd never get titanium, as I want to feel about 3lbs on my wrist if I'm paying that much, but for the crowd that feels differently, I'd for sure put this on the list. I'll stick with my white T-200 which looks almost the same (except for the colour) and has all of the functionality, but which cost me one third of the price. In fact, I think your review of the S-400 work best as an advertisement for the T-200. Thanks for the review as always; best voice on KZbin. 🔥
@DC-uf6ve2 ай бұрын
The Tron legacy style bezel is lovely, dont know how ive missed your previous reviews or this brand Jody, had no idea there was a 'grand casio' out there. This with one of these sweeping high beat quartz movement we're seeing more of now would be epic.
@martinkaplan18052 ай бұрын
A thin, light, all purpose beauty!
@vonkruel2 ай бұрын
I have a T200S-3AJF (green dial) and it's a fantastic watch. Still, since I tried titanium I've determined that it _is_ for me, and I could see rolling my T200 and another watch or 2 into a titanium Oceanus like this one (at a discount I hope??) -OR- another Eco-drive watch in titanium (since it was Citizen that sold me on titanium watches in the first place w/ the Promaster Land AT6080-53L). I'm at a point where I have "enough" watches, and buying also means selling, but that's fine. You can only love so many watches, and you also don't want to be over-invested in items that don't see much use.
@vktravellog12422 ай бұрын
Wow what a beauty. I hate multiband 6 because its so sensitive and doesnt work well. Solar is the only quartz i will buy. Hate battery changes as the professionals always mess up my watch!
@glenntongue76392 ай бұрын
Oh my! Really green.
@nickfowler5152 ай бұрын
I got my S100 Oceanus a little over a month ago, and it's been my go-to watch every day. I really like the sapphire bezel on this one, but I was too cheap to spring for it. The bluetooth would be nice to have, but the S100 picks up the atomic radio signal every night unless the weather is bad.
@veveko2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review bro', 👍You are the first to offer a complete review that is not in Japanese, Halleluya! I own the blue one since 4 months and I'm in love with. I own also an S100 but this one really raise the level, I was hoping for a three-hand model in the Manta range, Casio Oceanus has fulfilled my expectations. This brand is a must have. Cheers from France 🇫🇷 🤘
@LeoMorozovskiy2 ай бұрын
Can you compare your S100 to the S400 since you have both? Thanks!
@kaledev2 ай бұрын
I have an older OCW-T2600 and it's an amazing watch. The only issue I had with it is the date alignment is wonky. There's a feature to micro adjust that but it never stays where it should. Hopefully better in these new models.
@signorcorso2 ай бұрын
That point of green is really attractive. Not a watch for me, but I must admit it is nice and sharp.
@rm9sbg93zxjzg2 ай бұрын
I have the lineage one, analog/digital and I love it!
@davidrosenblum21782 ай бұрын
That second hand alignment is just doing it for me... May have to pull the trigger on the blue variant! Cheers!
@LietoUtheАй бұрын
Outstanding video.I have to go with the MAMACOO, especially with that green dial as my favorite
@benjaminritter6982 ай бұрын
A perfect watch but the price is hefty for a Casio watch. Thanks for the nice review as always. C ya.
@Grumbo912 ай бұрын
That phone finder feature is actually pretty handy 😂 Beautiful watch! Ive a big 8 inch wrist though... maybe
@zogzog10632 ай бұрын
I put an ostrich strap on mine.
@wondermax132 ай бұрын
what is your daily driver at the moment? I love all sorts of quartz watches!
@CT-wq1je2 ай бұрын
watch the end of this video. Answer is titanium Citizen Chronomaster.
@LeftThumbBreak2 ай бұрын
I had one but unfortunately the dial was warped around the indices. Huge shame because it is a really nice watch otherwise. Slim, comfortable, legible, good lume and can be sport or office.
@mattclarke87912 ай бұрын
One day Casio will make my ideal watch; a G-Shock in the style of an Explorer/Submariner, with a solar and atomic/Bluetooth movement
@jeremylynch832 ай бұрын
Not quite but approaching that : ocw-p2000
@dwp138Ай бұрын
Thanks for showing me this. I really feel like I need one now.
@SamP.H-t1r2 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this one. I hope they start making more affordable, simpler, sub 40mm models in the oceanus line (s200? or s300?). Glad to see they have reduced the blue color highlights on the dial.
@Don-yf6yo2 ай бұрын
I have two Oceanus watches and can verify that they are excellent in just about every aspect. This specific model, OCW-S400 was very recently released to the US market. I could go to a local AD if wanted to get one but since I already have enough Oceanus watches, I must control myself! 😂
@paulkukula65412 ай бұрын
Love these Casio reviews. Would love to see a video, comparing the finish & quality of the 3 titanium watches you have/showed us. Does the Casio compete well with the other two. Thanks Jody.
@G-rig69692 ай бұрын
The white one is the best. agree it shouldn't be so angular and 40mm Still can't really beat it, gey the Bluetooth one.
@metcard2 ай бұрын
I have and like everything about my Oceanus except for the massive gap where the clasp joins to the bracelet. That gap makes it look like a cheap $100 watch. I've got Swiss watches from the 90s with a steel bracelet and the gap at the clasp is tight.
@mcidor2 ай бұрын
If I had $800 burning a whole in my pocket I would buy an Ascents in different color variants. Great review as always. Thanks Jody
@DrTerryBooth2 ай бұрын
First thought was that it looks like what you'd get if you left an S100 and T200 in a darkened room. Maybe a bit of CW 12 in there as well. Maybe a gold and red Iron Man edition?
@LymanPhillips2 ай бұрын
Don't forget to turn on the Marvin Gaye.
@LymanPhillips2 ай бұрын
A threesome? That's kinky.
@Dan-i4i2 ай бұрын
That glass... 🔥🔥🔥
@Matt-mh5us2 ай бұрын
Beautiful, though I struggle to stomach more than $600 for a solar quartz. Citizen take the cake for me in that category with the exception of the Gshock.
@mszwatches2 ай бұрын
I got the Casio Oceanus Titanium OCW-S100-7AJF somewhat similar to this 👌 a great piece
@saairgunner59252 ай бұрын
The T200 seems to be identical, also Bluetooth, but Stainless steel. It is a light watch anyway. Golf the price as well
@gabrielgallawa82052 ай бұрын
Sorry to display my noob proclivities, but I cannot get my GMT hand on either of my Pagani watches to keep time. Any tips or tricks you can share?
@adk79622 ай бұрын
Oh man. I know it’s not worth twice the S100, but I really like the features of this one…damn it… (edit) I didn’t realize the S100 had atomic time keeping, just watched your S100 video. So I’m definitely camp S100. Thanks!
@CT-wq1je2 ай бұрын
A great GADA watch for sure if you like the slightly blingier look cf the S100 or 200. Not sure it will stay with you given you have the Chronomaster & wear it regularly. Of course Casio do the Ediface range which has some nice 3 handers for way less money (with way less tech) and the new CasioOaks have all of the tech with a very different look, at way less money. Interesting that they have got the crystal so good. I had a JDM Seiko from the early 90s with a similar piece of glass, quite unlike anything else I have ever seen. I found myself touching it regularly just to reassure myself it was still there.
@LeoMorozovskiy2 ай бұрын
Just to confirm, the clasp has two positions? Thanks!
@JustOneMoreWatch2 ай бұрын
Yes indeed!
@derektalbot48872 ай бұрын
Hi Jody, could you break the mould and do a review on watches for kids?, my 9 year old grandson is making his first holy communion soon and I just cat find a watch for him
@samwang58312 ай бұрын
S100 was incredible value for money, hope it is still available
@roberttai6462 ай бұрын
I always enjoy your reviews. Watch them all. Thank you! I have the t200. It does everything so well. Can't bring myself to go for a s100. Your review of the s400 has helped me to stay with the t200.
@overdrive9882 ай бұрын
Charming watch, no doubt
@CementPie2 ай бұрын
Interesting that they have the FCC and CE logos on the back when this watch is soid exclusively in the Japanese market. (Officially, that is) Are they planning to go international with the Oceanus line of watches? BTW, is it true that outside of Japan you can't have an Oceanus repaired because Casio won't sell spare parts?
@nato42872 ай бұрын
Since it is tough solar a movement with a beating seconds hand and not ticking would have made it more appealing.
@strannostrannovasrrАй бұрын
What is the exact difference between the t200 and the s400 that justify the price difference?
@loganholmberg22952 ай бұрын
So whats the differance between a 400 and a 200. Just titanium? An almost double the cost at retail for the titanium version is a bit steep IMO.
@edkwon2 ай бұрын
Interesting when you did the side by side comparo to the Citizen Chronomaster and GS 9F GMT, the latter two watches were nearly in sync with each other, both sec hands within a sec of each other, but the Casio after it was BT synced, the sec hand appeared at least 2-3 secs fast 🤔
@b.vonschnauser2072 ай бұрын
Speaking of comparisons: I can't say I like this one better than the OCW-T-200S, which has almost all the features of this one (including Bluetooth connectivity), and is less than half the price. The T-200S is stainless, but almost feels like titanium given its light weight.
@akash_goel2 ай бұрын
Beautiful piece, and impressive polishing.
@KTList2 ай бұрын
So it's a JDM product but according to its cashback it is also CE marked and thus legal to sell in the EU?
@axmajpayne2 ай бұрын
These ones are actually one of the few Oceanus watches that aren't JDM exclusive, they have them listed on the US website as well. Hopefully that will make them easier to get a hold of in other places.
@dwp1389 күн бұрын
It seems the black s400 is JDM
@timhorack54682 ай бұрын
This is the nicest Oceanis you’ve reviewed ❤
@georgekush86042 ай бұрын
I've been looking for one of these used for under $600. I gave up and bought an older limited edition model that scratched the same itch. I don't think I've seen any go for under $600, unfortunately.
@earlbee31962 ай бұрын
Hello, good afternoon and welcome to the show. ✌🏻👱🏻♂️✌🏻
@neilwade98702 ай бұрын
Surprisingly, I love it. Thanks
@thebitterfig99032 ай бұрын
So I have no idea why the Oceanus T200 is Steel and the S100 and S400 are Titanium, but they are gorgeous. One thing I'm noticing that the S400 has that the S100 doesn't is standard lugs. The built-in endlink on the S100 rules out straps (unless someone is out there making custom ones), and I'm just not a bracelet guy.
@El1988Che2 ай бұрын
I owned a T200 and T4000 but ultimately sold them both. The T200 hands had a rough/cheap finishing that was made obvious with daylight in some angles. The T4000 had ridiculous clasp design... The micro adjustment triggers where the same as the ones used to open the clasp, so it would loose my setting every time I open it lol, that was a fail. The finishing was nice on both for them money but all these people saying it's comparable to GS or higher end Citizen, needs a better pair of glasses.
@topquark69192 ай бұрын
For me, the only thing that lets that watch down, is the case back. If it had been screw down, it would have been awesome.
@garethhanna91732 ай бұрын
These are great but I'll stick with my S100, a suble elegant design that sits perfecty on the wrist,
@konradk.28982 ай бұрын
What is the caseback it is screwdown or something else ?
@JustOneMoreWatch2 ай бұрын
Press on.
@keksimus__maximus2 ай бұрын
Lmao $800 btw
@Spectrecontrol2 ай бұрын
That one has some nifty tricks up its sleeve
@lengx.97982 ай бұрын
Oceanus needs to make 36mm watch and somehow remove ANUS from yhe the dial.
@YouTube_is_full_of_trolls2 ай бұрын
If you say something is very nicely finished, I'll bite. However, the cw quartz is stunning, and I'm having a quartz comeback right now. My life is hectic, and I'm rough on movements.
@Roberto68n2 ай бұрын
Forget the watch…. THE T-SHIRT!!!! LOVE IT!!!
@timjones45942 ай бұрын
Gorgeous. Grand Casio.
@sathishrao79262 ай бұрын
Looks like videos don’t do enough justice. It looks just like one of the Casio Aqua Terras - EFV-100/140/150 ..
@eliransabak14472 ай бұрын
How about the oceanus diver p2000? The most insane watch I've even owned. Truly a bargain selling new for less than half its msrp
@jonathanobrien10582 ай бұрын
Bi coloured lume! Why?? Otherwise, with radio, it's really nice. Pity about the quartz tick. Agree, should just say radio or solar, not tough. I think the bracelet will work fine for most people
@johnsrabe2 ай бұрын
Is the bezel actually readable, Jody, it’s a little bit hard to tell in the video. That is my only gripe with my S100. Those cities are just too hard to see. Not that it’s a GMT, anyway.
@brown83172 ай бұрын
That bracelet design is very cool
@shj20002 ай бұрын
Great review Jody. I love the tech and the bracelet. A little too $$, IMO.
@donavenzelch86792 ай бұрын
Im sorry, how much?! Jody, i love your videos and my opinion is that absolutely no casio (that doesnt say g shock mudmaster triple scensor) is worth more than $200. Its a beautiful watch but it needs a threaded caseback, crown, and a swiss automatic movement for that price.
@jasongultjaeff93972 ай бұрын
These are watches beloved of watch KZbinrs. Any other brand they will slam for having a quartz movement at that price.
@bboooobbyy2 ай бұрын
Threaded crown is not inherently better- it doesn't improve water resistance and there is the risk of crossthreading the crown or poor machining. Swiss automatics are not better than Japanese quartz across the board. It very much depends on what calibers we're talking about.
@a0r0a7Ай бұрын
The plastic pallets, plastic escape wheel powermatic Swiss auto, no thank you.