Did Joe Dart RIP OFF Chic?!

[@arieltz23]

The Vulfpeck song is literally called "3 on E", and its lyrics (as is the melody) are a direct homage to the great bass lines of the past that feature 3 consistent strikes of the E string on the beat, namely "Hollywood Swinging" by Kool & the Gang, "Another One Bites the Dust" by Queen, and of course, "Good Times" by Chic and the late legend Bernard Edwards. Love them both! Great lesson as always! Thanks Scott and Ian!

[@tomebasic2843]

Don't forget I need you Tonight by INXS. And yeah, the idea that you can "steal" a rhythm patern is ridiculous

[@WildWildWeasel]

That song is a gigantic tribute, not a ripoff...and it's actually super enjoyable. Then again, what Vulfpeck/TFF song isn't enjoyable?

[@La_sagne]

did you just repeat the intro of the video?

[@Discophonic]

Did Joe Dart RIP OFF Chic?! yes, next question ! Seriously who has never ripped off Chic

[@BARTFUNKBASS]

Lars Ulrich

[@Mark-db1ok]

Solid point! And if you haven't ripped off a little Bernard Edwards yet, why not??

[@adamgreenhill110]

Another One Bites the Dust!

[@spacedaddy5517]

Not me, I stole Chics bike and I been pedaling it ever since.

[@martinheath5947]

And Francis Rocco Prestia

[@rome8180]

That chromatic walk-up from the 2nd to the 3rd is one of Joe's favorite moves. You can find it all over his bass lines.

[@BARTFUNKBASS]

It's from the OG of the "3 on E" bass lines. The song that started it all - Kool & The Gang's "Hollywood Swinging" from 1973.

[@XanBcoo]

I use it all the time now because of him

[@BARTFUNKBASS]

@@XanBcoo Me too!

[@lidiaspazzard]

@@XanBcoo Yep, me too.

[@coreyshafarman8918]

That’s a bass funk trope. One of the reasons Joe Dart is so cool is because he takes those old tropes and modernizes them

[@BenD_Bass]

Kool and the Gang - "Hollywood swinging" is another dope 3 on E bassline and Joe Dart is my favorite bass human

[@MiddleMalcolm]

Direct influence on "Good Times". Family connection with Nile. ❤

[@exhpv]

Can you guys please do a video on the genius of Bernard Edwards! SO many amazing basslines! Thinking Of You by Sister Sledge being my favourite!

[@pamelamcanulty5236]

The second fill part calls me back to Weather Report’s Birdland a bit. Does anyone else hear that?

[@craigridley9618]

Though it comes with ernie ball cobalt flats, Joe plays with Thomastik infeld jazz flats on the musicman- 👀bright red silks. That’s the full scale version- the shorty has a pickguard. Always happy to hear more vulf appreciation in the world!

[@shannonmcmackin4665]

Interestingly, if you get a chance to see Vulfpeck's performance at Bonaroo, they actually kick off 3 on E with a medley of all the songs you pointed out here. I heard that and immediately recalled this episode. Good stuff...

[@BARTFUNKBASS]

1979 till early 1980s was an "3 on E" bass line era. If you dig deep you'll find dozens of bass lines that are similar to "Good Times". Lately, it's hip again to use it. Just check Dua Lipa's "Break My Heart", Doja Cat's "Say So" or Justin Timberlake's "Can't Stop The Feeling".

[@christopherweise438]

You could add Justin's "Rock Your Body" to that list.

[@BARTFUNKBASS]

@@christopherweise438 Woody - the keyboard player from Vulfpeck made one too. It's called Woody and Jeremy - "Fat Boys in the Gym of Love": kzbin.info/www/bejne/pamlqalrm6manJo

[@christopherweise438]

@@BARTFUNKBASS - The entire "Vulf" universe is incredible. I went down the "Fearless Flyers" rabbit hole and never emerged.

[@BARTFUNKBASS]

@@christopherweise438 I also listened to more Fearless Flyers than Vulfpeck. Hard to believe I haven't heard of Nate Smith before.

[@christopherweise438]

@@BARTFUNKBASS - Same here.....and i'm a drummer. Dude has a pocket so deep there are Chilean miners trapped in it.

[@bassimprovjams3772]

Luv that Wal!!!!

[@doctersound9630]

More VULFPECK please! (And maybe some more PRIMUS! LETS GO!) - You two THUMP! Love the longer videos as well... So much awesome content here! Cheers from Canada!

[@Matt-Hurin]

Everyone has.. Nard will always be the 🐐...Always 🤘🏼, Nard Nile and Tony are the Holy Trinity of rhythm sections

[@gkournavos]

Nice vid as always guys. Plus, Wal basses have never had the love they deserved over the decades. That one is an absolute beauty. Why not teach people parts of Brand X's Wal to Wal? That's be pretty cool.

[@ArtbyJoeH]

Add 'fretless' to that!

[@willb1157]

That "horn Line" IT'S BARNY MILLER!!!!! Hear it in there? I'm not sure about "to each his own". the timbre changes, and at least on viol family instruments or acoustics (me = double bass) there are often instructions as to wha is where. Rabbath has a piece that is "call and response" that is the same phrase played at different places (same notes) and it's such an obvious difference. Even here I hear it....I really try to find out fingerings if I am playing something composed by someone else........I'll get my coat. But GREAT VID! thank you Bald Brothers.

[@B0BHW]

Nice unison playing guys!

[@Basslick]

Yes! What everyone else shared with a little bit of the theme from the old tv show "Barney Miller"..... its a lotta little bit of everything...such joy!

[@GregSB1]

How about Hollywood Swinging?

[@popfortyfive]

I hear that too

[@awiems]

you guys together, rock!!

[@devinebass]

🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@wavryder6ft]

Love the Rocky Horror long sleeve...

[@davidbragg4972]

Nice Wal 🎸👌

[@TommyGBassChannel]

Yes, but I also need a tutorial for how to move the neck, exactly like he does! 🤗

[@spacedaddy5517]

2:36 This is hilarious when Scott shows us how to not play it : ). The creativity though.

[@danielpalmersofficial]

Most of the bass lines I know have that open E string thing, I always expect to hear it. ✌️😙

[@Pladderkasse]

I don't think I've ever payed an original bass line in my life, even in bands where we made original music. Everything seems to have been done under the sun, when you dig deep enough.

[@6lillium]

Every great artist is a magpie at heart. How they apply it is what sets them apart......

[@samuelemeryjiujitsu]

I love this title. My first thought was "GOD THAT WOULD BE AWESOME IF HE DID!"

[@MarcusN-kp1jn]

Everyone "steals". Even Jaco did, and admitted to it. You just gotta steal with style, and that involves adding your personal touch to whatever riff you're borrowing from, and developing it further. And that's harder than it sounds.

[@willb1157]

NO! I don't ever "Steal". That's why You have never heard of me! . I think it's impossible not to do it even unconsciously. We may not even be aware that we ever heard whatever it is. It's happened loads to me.

[@ThomCate]

OK, that Tattooine cap. I need it. Where can I find it? Please, and thank you.

[@skonatrix]

Hi Scott Could you please go over a tutorial on a tune called LOAD by the bassist LABEX?

[@zprince4120]

Is it just me or does That fill in the second higher part sounds like something taken from the Barny Miller theme?

[@stevenpipes1555]

I like those other songs of course, but i LOVE 3 On E so much! Joe is a killer, Cory is one of the best players out there, Antwan Stanley is near the top of my deserted island list of singers. And if all that isn't the coolest ever, lets throw Theo in there too, just to make sure we blow the top off of the meter!

[@Maxiamaru]

The end of that second part sounds like the seasame street theme to me for some reason

[@rome8180]

Well, the melody of that part of the Sesame Street theme is also based around a dominant scale.

[@hhamilton1970]

Such good stuff

[@m1kr0kosmos]

Béla Bartók bit Beethoven’s 13th & 14th string quartet intros but only the beginning. I think if someone borrows a motif and takes it somewhere else, that’s in tradition of how things have always been.

[@jeffreyyyy3052]

Jaco pastorius Victor wooten James jamerson, a bit of flea stanley clark etc etc. People like us who play music instead of songs on an instrument sometimes speak the same words.

[@icon777771]

Awesome guys. Could you cover Shalamars There it is bass line please I believe another song in E if I’m not mistaken? Cheers

[@jamesbeard]

That Wal sounds killer

[@virgilrytaar9083]

Please have a look at Pretty Green by The Jam, simple but perfect

[@dlannom04]

Cantina Band!!! Love it!

[@gregorymoore1210]

Nailed the basic structure down in about ten hours. Working on timing now…

[@devinebass]

🙌🏻🧡🔥

[@meeamee]

good times is the greatest dance song of all time so I dont blame him no. he’s really good at revisiting classics, like he did with dean town

[@adamwalcott_official]

Please, Ian and Scott: lets see a video tribute to the late Ray Shulman of Gentle Giant.

[@emmanuelacharithayamim3627]

A Wal and an Antigua Jazz, what’s next?

[@craighill3715]

So has John Taylor, John Deacon, Guy Pratt. If you're trying to get people dancing Bernard Edwards is about as good as they get. I plan on ripping him off at a wedding next week😂

[@dorssberube]

Bernard is the man! I love Chic, love Vulf also! Joe❤!🤌🏻

[@willb1157]

Bernard was once asked what strings he used...he said whatever came on the bass, and he had never changed them - ("Good Times" Riff). He IS the man. All in his fingers.

[@viplimosvip9119]

Hello I can hear the first part sounds like kool and the gang Hollywood swinging and the second part sound like the bass line for the start up song on barnyard Miller old TV show that what I hear don't think anything was stolen just great bass lines

[@cunt5000]

This was a really frustrating part of trying to find tabs - there's often 2 or even 3 places where you COULD play the riff on the neck, which one do you use, and why do tabs get it wrong so much?

[@La_sagne]

link to the tab is in the description. they said it in the video

[@pablofichaje]

Break my Heart by Dua Lipa is also a 3 on E bassline

[@M2Mil7er]

It's important to remember that music is a continuum, and that it's incredibly rare for an artist to reinvent an instrument. It's expected to borrow or outright steal to bring things into one's playing. For me, that's totally fine. What I find more annoying is that fans of certain bands might worship a particular musician thinking they're a unique and generational talent, when really they're getting plaudits for ripping off DFA1979, or copping Francis Rocco Prestia licks.

[@rubensleite9384]

It's Joe Dart's time 😊😊😊 !

[@ErixSamson]

This Wall is a monster!

[@synthonaplinth5980]

He also paid homage to Rocco Prestia on 'Dean Town'.

[@devinebass]

🔥🔥🔥

[@diegoyonamine8943]

Another awesome jam +class , But really , Ive to say ut bad decision on title , thumb

[@jonsidell3338]

I’d use any excuse to play that Wal. Shoot a “Joe Dart plays funk” video, deal!

[@jonartan4754]

When the theft is blantant it should be a homage/tribute, which is a complement that directs people to the original innovator. Keeping quiet implies youre happy letting people believe you did the hard work. Give credit where it is due or add enough of your own thing to make it yours.

[@austinstyles6393]

It’s also has some “Barney Miller” theme song flavorings in it.

[@1lug]

@nd pass sounds like a small tribute to the TV show Barney Miller theme song.

[@UOFKfan100]

Antwaun Stanley explains in the lyrics 3 on E is an ancient funk secret passed down orally lol. This video is just more proof of that concept 🤣 vulfpeck being musically prophetic yet again

[@Blakeadam52]

Joes neck is what provides 50% more groove than other players

[@davidfox7983]

Influence nothing else.. great line to from Joe

[@devinebass]

🧡🧡🧡

[@BYLRPhil]

But didn’t everyone kind of rip off everyone else?

[@McDoinky]

Yeah but they're clickbaiting so it's irrelevant

[@Uncle--Fatty]

Thank Goodness the Smell 0 Vision is out of commission... Happy Dads Day Fellas..!!

[@Nugmania1]

Boys, Big brother weighing in, you can tell that Joe listened to Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, from the last part of riff starting in E. It’s Tears of a Clown

[@JMGilberto]

There's 11 notes, no one is gonna play anything new, nothing can really be called stealing at this point anymore...music is just fusing, influencing, and evolving. Musically paying tribute to your influences in the open by musical homage should be encouraged. I think Jellyfish was the first band to openly wear all of their musical influences on their sleeves; Here's some Beatles, here's some Who, here's some Queen...

[@thomp9054]

Cory Wong has one of the best touring bands out right now They are all insane monster players

[@devinebass]

💯💯💯

[@deadtruc4815]

it's jack stratton who composed this bassline

[@toddh2152]

Sounds like barney miller theme

[@WalterDiamond]

You get a like for the horrible dad joke at the end.

[@kristianwichmann9996]

Come for the funky bass lines, stay for the dad math joke

[@devinebass]

🤣🤣🤣

[@BearKillsJF]

The whole song is an actual nod to songs with "3 on E" research it

[@SirSneakerPimp]

They said that in the video…😮

[@BearKillsJF]

@@SirSneakerPimp the clickbait implies they meant it.

[@dctbass]

I've been playing bass since 1983. Still not very well. But something I have consistently fought against; Bass Players Neck. That swan like movement. So uncool! 😁 Just tap your foot ffs! 😁

[@alwoo]

All these songs came after good times

[@MadMagicPaul]

Poor video name guys. The entire "3 on E" thing is clearly a tribute, acknowledging the greats of the past. Anyway - didn't Stratton write it? Joe Dart has said in interview that he's a sideman and he plays what he is told.

[@camerakungfu]

That "horn line" is part of the Barney Miller theme song. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKCriouogc2gfsU

[@lucasdebarros8712]

Of course he did! But who didn't?

[@thomp9054]

A lot of Vulf songs are homages to classic funk songs.

[@devinebass]

Facts! So cool!

[@MrKiwiJack]

Three on E has always just sounded like a funkier version of the old Barney Miller TV Theme, especially the ending of each phrase. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ7MdGN5a6mendE

[@devinebass]

🤯🤯🤯

[@Tivbassg]

The Joe Dart bass is based on a Sterling not a Stingray.

[@rorymckenzie8598]

Joe Dart's chiropractor has his work cut out for him.

[@miykaelp5284]

yeah, Joe is going to have major neck issues down the line

[@tc860]

Honestly, if you dont rip off some chic when playing funk, you might be doing something wrong 😂

[@benoitm9199]

Did Joe Dart rip off chickens neck move !?

[@michaelfowler3187]

I didn't like until the joke at the end

[@ultramet]

Joe Dart probably did rip off Bernard Edwards and Bernard would be proud that his legacy is being carried on by such a great young bassist.

[@giuseppeguardi991]

Bernard is a Master and Joe a little Elf (ridiculous)

[@ericpage3693]

more like Chic + the theme from Barney Miller.

[@BenD_Bass]

I just noticed Good Times, Another One Bites The Dust, 3 On E, and Hollywood Swinging are all in different keys. I smell an Idea for explaining modes here lol

[@devinebass]

💡💡💡

[@Nickpaflas]

If you're NOT ripping off Bernard Edwards, are you even playing funk bass?

[@garrettlowell7637]

Did Greenday rip off Chicago? Did Prince rip off James Brown? This list of questions and obvious answers is extremely long.

[@offbeatbassgear]

The bigger ripoff is what they tried to charge for that dumbed-down Joe Dart signature bass from Ernie Ball...

[@TheDarkKnight73]

Hmm either way he is not a favor of mine

[@alwoo]

😅 sure he did

[@BartekDeGod100]

I don’t even have to watch the video first to say this: ART. IS. ALL. DERIVATIVE.

[@homewithj1]

Joe dart couldn't touch Benard Edwards on his best day. Also Cleary he's been influenced be Chic.Its funny how black music has always been appropriated by others but is rarely ever celebrated on the same level. Its the Elvis syndrome .Side note I'm not sure where you guys are located . But if you (or anyone else who reads this ) are even in NYC . You should go check out the great Fred Thomas . From the original JB's (James brown) . This man lives in BK and does regular gigs and master classes . Although you get the master class for the cost of entry at one of his regular gigs.

[@Pnanasnoic]

All of their music is derivative and sounds like a warm up jam.

[@CC-fi3pp]

Ian always loves to think he's the best. He thinks his bass is better, the way he plays it is better. His bass did not sound better than Scott's P Bass. He's annoying, Scott handles him well by not arguing with his foolishness.

[@coreyshafarman8918]

I’ve ripped off Bernard Edwards, I just didn’t do it as well as Joe Dart

[@bassist789]

Joe Dart and vulfpeck rip off everyone and they know it! It’s a music appreciation project. They aren’t bringing anything new to the musical conversation whatsoever and they’re not trying to.

[@charlespancamo9771]

Definitely ripped off Level 42

[@cedricjacobs4917]

Learning funk from 2 white guys are you serious

[@thumbthump]

EVERYBODY rips off Bernard.