Did Kevin Durant's 3-Pointer Prove He Passed LeBron James As The Best? | First Take | June 8, 2017

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Stephen A. Smith, Max Kellerman and Will Cain debate if Kevin Durant’s 3-pointer in the final moments of the Golden State State Warriors’ Game 3 win over the Cleveland Cavaliers in the NBA Finals proves he passed LeBron James as the best player in the world.
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@brennerhohl9801
@brennerhohl9801 7 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ. 2 weeks ago it's "is this the best LeBron James has ever played". Last season it was "Is Steph Curry better than KD and LeBron?". The media flip flop more than a pancake
@pengfon3084
@pengfon3084 7 жыл бұрын
Avery Bradley too many facts
@cfrench507
@cfrench507 7 жыл бұрын
i dont think anyone ever said steph curry was a better basketball player than kd or lebron, he might be the greatest shooter ever, but he isnt elite at much else, he is a huge liability on defense, where as kd and lebron cant competantly guard any position very well. Lebron has jumped over ppl twice, has steph curry ever dunked in traffic? lebron took a team with no other allstars to 60 wiins and left and they only won 11, whereas steph would be useless on his own, and if u took him off GS they would still be the best in the league. Lebron adds 40 50 wins to a team, steph must have many many others to help him, in face a team has to be built to cover his glaring weaknesses. i mean he's scrawny and week, soft and mild, and very unathletic, lebron and kd, strong, fast, and most athletic dudes in almmost any sport. who the fuck could think steph is an actual basketball player, he is a great shooter, that is a liability on defense and gets pushed around very easy, in fact he prob wouldnt even be in the league in jordans day or when dell curry played. steph is literally like a girl playing with men, he isnt dunkin on anyone or overwhelming them on defense, he has to be on a team with parts that fit with him, in fact put him in orlando, they still wouldnt make the playoffs, but you put lebron or kd any fuckin where and they win 50 at least. stephanie
@AlexGarcia-tl7fg
@AlexGarcia-tl7fg 7 жыл бұрын
Carl French nah for a year curry was considered the best player in the NBA. SAS even said it on first take
@edwardwalden05
@edwardwalden05 6 жыл бұрын
Carl French you obviously are salty and you don’t like curry. To say that curry is a women in a man’s league is biased. Even after all that pushing, and shoving, getting knocked down, he still makes the buckets. Curry does so much more for the offense than just score. He creates so much space, not only that, he can play off ball unlike Lebron. Don’t get me wrong, Lebron is the best player, but if they didn’t have KD, and curry is hurt, they are not the same team. You sound so stupid, just because he’s not athletic, he’s not a basketball player? 🤔 Do you know who John Stockton was? Great basketball player, but he doesn’t dunk at all. You can’t use old basketball rules and mix them with today’s style of play for point guards, because there really wasn’t any high flyer pgs back in the day. The best pgs were not dunking on ppl back in the day. And curry can dunk, he just saves his energy for shooting. He’s very underrated at attacking the rim, he’s just as good as Kyrie when attacking the basket. For a player who can’t dunk, he finished 4th in points in the paint last year. Get out your feelings and be realistic. Everybody knows he doesn’t play defense as well, but that’s because his team doesn’t ask him too, the same as the rockets not asking James harden not to play defense, and harden can play defense very well, being so he played good defense in okc. Curry was considered the best player in the league when he won MVP, get ya facts straight
@happyboy2776
@happyboy2776 6 жыл бұрын
Avery Bradley is
@Jalilm17
@Jalilm17 7 жыл бұрын
If KD was still on OKC and it was OKC in these finals doing this to LeBron, THEN I would be thinking KD was better.
@perksamitch4760
@perksamitch4760 6 жыл бұрын
Jalilm17 maybe but it would still be okc with Westbrook vs the cavs
@russellwestgoat766
@russellwestgoat766 6 жыл бұрын
Ihatefatpeople what you trynna say, Westbrook is the best pg in the league right now
@elegantblackboy4025
@elegantblackboy4025 6 жыл бұрын
@@waleedelnaim9109 it was a rhetorical question idiot
@zionchism8993
@zionchism8993 6 жыл бұрын
True
@cvader7
@cvader7 6 жыл бұрын
Nonsense! If Lebron was better he would not let him...Being that it's GS, his effort should be doubled! GS does not grant KD magical skills
@ArchiLee-ch
@ArchiLee-ch 7 жыл бұрын
This very stupid question is one of the reasons why I cut my cable and dropped ESPN
@robertolebron2296
@robertolebron2296 7 жыл бұрын
D. D. No more college football then
@ArchiLee-ch
@ArchiLee-ch 7 жыл бұрын
All of the important games I want to see are on ABC or CBS. Dont need cable for that.
@silvertiger937
@silvertiger937 7 жыл бұрын
People acting like kd didn't join a 73-9 team
@MichaelGoatJordan
@MichaelGoatJordan 7 жыл бұрын
bronsexuals acting like lebum didnt handpick his super team with the higest payroll in nba history
@obscurevisuals
@obscurevisuals 7 жыл бұрын
silver tiger your point is ?
@ForlanFFA
@ForlanFFA 7 жыл бұрын
silver tiger everyone knows that dumbass.
@sean_elchapo
@sean_elchapo 7 жыл бұрын
Leo a.k.a Forlan I didn't so thank you silver tiger
@YashRamisetty
@YashRamisetty 7 жыл бұрын
Lebron's handpicked team is good... when those players decide to show up. But they didn't. Outside of Lebron and Kyrie, everyone else was absent yesterday. Do you realize that Tristan Thompson is being outrebounded by Steph EASILY??
@ragingsavage9059
@ragingsavage9059 6 жыл бұрын
That crowd is soooo quiet, you can just feel all the inner tears they are holding in 😂😂😂
@KhalidThouz
@KhalidThouz 7 жыл бұрын
KD shoots over Lebron in the final minutes, now KD is the best? GTFOH
@mitchellmartinsky2299
@mitchellmartinsky2299 7 жыл бұрын
durant has been the best since he won mvp
@justmyopinion1098
@justmyopinion1098 7 жыл бұрын
Mitchell Martinsky That's why he lost against Curry last year right?
@smirks1463
@smirks1463 7 жыл бұрын
Cause he dont disappear when his team needs him
@dencoj
@dencoj 7 жыл бұрын
SMIRKS like last year? When he Carried the thunder to the finals over golden state ? Oh yeah, that didn't happen
@lazking6004
@lazking6004 7 жыл бұрын
dencoj they didnt win cuz westbrook was a ball hoggin ass
@atmontgomery93
@atmontgomery93 6 жыл бұрын
Lebron told Rodney Hood “You go guard KD”
@jasonl6803
@jasonl6803 7 жыл бұрын
to make it simple, let lebron and kd switch teams, let's see if Durant can do what lebron is doing for cavs,... yeah kd is the better scorer but lebron is the better all around player!
@marcgrayii5477
@marcgrayii5477 7 жыл бұрын
jason L Looks like someone is smart. The media can't wait to hop on a bandwagon.
@Dzejman
@Dzejman 7 жыл бұрын
no he's not. the only thing lebron is better than kd is passing. durant is a better scorer and defender.
@justmyopinion1098
@justmyopinion1098 7 жыл бұрын
Dzejman KD wouldn't have beaten a 73-9 Warriors team
@Dzejman
@Dzejman 7 жыл бұрын
and how do you know that? can you see into some kind of alternative universe where kd was on cavs 15-16 roster?
@marcgrayii5477
@marcgrayii5477 7 жыл бұрын
Dzejman We know because he DIDNT beat the 73-9 Warriors with a BETTER PG in Westbrook. I don't include Love because he didn't contribute much until Game 7
@christhecommentator3411
@christhecommentator3411 7 жыл бұрын
All i know is that was one of the cold blooded shots in NBA playoff history. That was the defining moment of this year, this series and KD's career.
@slimeyladude
@slimeyladude 7 жыл бұрын
Max Kellerman a real nigga
@josephgamingandvlogs6953
@josephgamingandvlogs6953 7 жыл бұрын
lil dyce thank u
@TheAliisawesome
@TheAliisawesome 7 жыл бұрын
They are joking right, asking this question?
@DaveMillennial
@DaveMillennial 7 жыл бұрын
"durants there when ya need em, lebron is the most valuable player in this series." PERFECT
@Miko-dy6ur
@Miko-dy6ur 7 жыл бұрын
Not even close to surpassing Lebron. He will get his time, tired of these comparisons already.
@gobigod2274
@gobigod2274 3 жыл бұрын
@Derek Sangster It's Giannis's time
@gobigod2274
@gobigod2274 3 жыл бұрын
@Derek Sangster true
@sheluuhvsjojo
@sheluuhvsjojo 5 жыл бұрын
Offensive Skill: KD Dominance and Overall Skill: Lebron Career- wise: Lebron
@kingkaisauce5718
@kingkaisauce5718 7 жыл бұрын
😴Where was this "greatness" in OKC?? LBJ > Kd
@zachcallies4071
@zachcallies4071 6 жыл бұрын
Durant won regular season mvp in okc, what are you talking about
@deneriobush9424
@deneriobush9424 6 жыл бұрын
Dumb ass he won 4 scoring titles n mvp tf is u talking about dude
@ianwilson4483
@ianwilson4483 5 жыл бұрын
Kingkai Sauce Westbrick.
@JustKickrocks
@JustKickrocks 5 жыл бұрын
Or before he left Miami for lebron gay boi
@Iamthemfgoatt
@Iamthemfgoatt 5 жыл бұрын
@Snow Wolf Hey, what about OKC vs Warriors in games 5, 6, and 7? How come KD couldn't get the job done in those 3 games and had to choke badly in game 6? Stop with the weed
@barcafc3990
@barcafc3990 7 жыл бұрын
As a Warriors fan my whole life I don't care if Durant is better than Lebron. I have the upmost respect for Lebron and what he has done in his career and tis series is far from over. Don't celebrate until we win the fourth game boys.
@tomanwatson4572
@tomanwatson4572 7 жыл бұрын
know what you are they VERY first Warriors fan i have respected and im a Wolves/Nuggets fan XD
@RiruKrypto_
@RiruKrypto_ 7 жыл бұрын
I would celebrate if I had KD up 3-0 this isn’t 2016.
@LG-vc2ln
@LG-vc2ln 7 жыл бұрын
I respect you bro. You just spat straight facts.
@zerozero9594
@zerozero9594 7 жыл бұрын
Bandwagon
@NoCluYT
@NoCluYT 7 жыл бұрын
BarcaFC39 CHANGE YOUR PROFILE NAME, YOU DISGUST ME
@setho1570
@setho1570 7 жыл бұрын
Soo your telling me if scalebrine comes out of retirement and hits a 3 in the 4th he's better than lebron🤔
@kaylinjohnson4807
@kaylinjohnson4807 7 жыл бұрын
wtf are u talkin about
@applesaucebombs1017
@applesaucebombs1017 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Jones he doesn't have to
@cat_punz8036
@cat_punz8036 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Jones he already is what you talking about
@xrpedro
@xrpedro 7 жыл бұрын
Bob Jones he always has been. You must be new to the game 😌
@jordanquisenberry946
@jordanquisenberry946 7 жыл бұрын
Yes 👍
@DenizCDemir
@DenizCDemir 7 жыл бұрын
no man has every carried any team in the history of basketball like lebron has carried the cavs. per 100 positions, the score is 118-117 gsw while lebron is on the floor whilst per 100 positions the score is around 120-75 for gsw when lebron is benched. that's how ridiculous this is. durant has it in easy mode. he has the best shooter in nba history as well as 2 allstars and a perfect bench behind him. ofc he has good individual performances. who you have to worry about for the cavs? kyrie maybe? nothing else there. try double teaming durant and you have 3 excellent shooters who have no range open. he has it in super easy mode. both in terms of his team success and his individual success. switch teams with lebron and lets see if you will make the conference finals.
@idkidk6164
@idkidk6164 6 жыл бұрын
Deniz Demir Why are you bronsexuals acting like LeBron doesn’t have a superteam of his own?
@nubplayz461
@nubplayz461 6 жыл бұрын
They're talking about right now buddy
@ernie2298
@ernie2298 6 жыл бұрын
Idk Idk bud, it doesn't matter if LeBron had MJ on his squad, if the players don't produce them they're just bodies bro. It's like having an all time player on ur time that scores 2 points a game. Stop looking at stats and watch the games
@TranquilAura77
@TranquilAura77 6 жыл бұрын
Thats what these fucks dont get like just because these niggad are on a team with lebron their made out like elite players who are perennial all stars I mean apart from lebrron noone on the cavs are a perennial all star
@bettsy5083
@bettsy5083 6 жыл бұрын
allen iverson led a much worse sixers team to the finals and won Game 1 against the Lakers in the finals. that sixers team was much worse the the team lebron had on the cavs when he first made the finals
@Iceinmyvein
@Iceinmyvein 7 жыл бұрын
Lol everyone saying kyrie is better than curry after his clutch shot in game 7. Now it can't go the other way?
@thomasg1962
@thomasg1962 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Garcia I get what your saying but curry played poorly at least compared to his own standards throughout that series, lbj is scoring 30+ and averaging a trip dub
@bruhfrog9394
@bruhfrog9394 7 жыл бұрын
Thomas G "trip dub" is a stat, no one would have been saying anything if he averaged 35 9.9 and 9.9
@carmeloanthony4153
@carmeloanthony4153 7 жыл бұрын
Jacob Garcia kyrie had a better series than Steph tho so ppl compared them. But that was only cavs fans. No-one actually seriously thought for real that kyrie was better than someone who led his team to 73-9 record. And kd didn't have a better series than LeBron in terms of stats. KD averaged 35ppg that's it. LeBron averaged 32 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists.
@dylanstreet133
@dylanstreet133 7 жыл бұрын
Carmelo Anthony Facts
@tomanwatson4572
@tomanwatson4572 7 жыл бұрын
he WILL be he is going MVP mode this 2017-2018 season
@isaacstroud12
@isaacstroud12 7 жыл бұрын
lebron is better than durant overall. durant is a better shooter thats all and he is longer and taller than bron
@averagecat8218
@averagecat8218 7 жыл бұрын
Isaac Stroud the main thing that makes lebron still the best in the nba today. Is that it's his leadership..
@mekhinextup
@mekhinextup 7 жыл бұрын
Isaac Stroud and he can dribble better and he’s faster.
@JT-rh8kp
@JT-rh8kp 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure at all.
@JT-rh8kp
@JT-rh8kp 6 жыл бұрын
Not true at all
@BPGamer0110
@BPGamer0110 6 жыл бұрын
U forgot about handles
@ajjurae
@ajjurae 7 жыл бұрын
So because of 3 games, apparently Durant is better then LeBron, I'm sleep
@Kevin-bu7nz
@Kevin-bu7nz 7 жыл бұрын
ajjurae he's been better this series
@ajjurae
@ajjurae 7 жыл бұрын
There talking about the best in the world lol, Durant is not better than Lebron
@spreadlove7761
@spreadlove7761 7 жыл бұрын
ajjurae factssss
@YungJay216
@YungJay216 7 жыл бұрын
ajjurae they are saying KD is the best in the world
@broaderrange5870
@broaderrange5870 7 жыл бұрын
And in Game 3 he was BADLY outplayed by Lebron, who went 40-10-8...
@Seif97ify
@Seif97ify 7 жыл бұрын
First Curry was passing LeBron, then it was Kawhi and now it's KD? Swear, how'd they get a job talking about sports?
@vincentjones4141
@vincentjones4141 7 жыл бұрын
Remarkable SeiF Exactly
@angkalawang
@angkalawang 7 жыл бұрын
Remarkable SeiF ..KAWHI PASSING LEBRON IS THE ONLY LEGIT
@Seif97ify
@Seif97ify 7 жыл бұрын
+Ang Kalawang No, LeBron is the best player in the league hands down and it's not even close to whoever is second.
@Onlyrealmusic4life
@Onlyrealmusic4life 7 жыл бұрын
LeBron has become the new standard which people bass their comparisons off thats why lol its a compliment the same time
@joshliggins2260
@joshliggins2260 7 жыл бұрын
if you have watched basketball for longer than 5 years you would now this isn't kd first time he is considered to be passing lebron
@col_db_looded
@col_db_looded 7 жыл бұрын
I think u give Lebron one more year to see if KD has eclipsed him. It's been 3 games and yes their preforming on the highest stage but still. THREE GAMES!!! It's not KD outplaying Bron, it's the Warriors outplaying the CAVS. The CAVS do not match up at all with the Warriors which is why KD is playing this well. All I'm saying is slow do a bit. Lebron is too great to be eclipsed by KD for the position as the best player on the planet. Just disrespectful.
@calebu752
@calebu752 7 жыл бұрын
Preach 👆
@waytoocozy
@waytoocozy 7 жыл бұрын
KD is playing this well because Bron can’t guard KD at all lmaoooo. KD is the only reason this is a damn near sweep 😂
@waytoocozy
@waytoocozy 7 жыл бұрын
Another thing, he could’ve been doing this with your team but guess who has no shooters, guess who has no floor spacing, guess who’s PG is an out of control maniac. Oh well, you see what a coaching change can do.
@col_db_looded
@col_db_looded 7 жыл бұрын
Slightly Biased Kevin Durant Fan WTF!!! This got nothin to do with KD leaving OKC. I'm just speaking fax ma boy.
@pairodeez1573
@pairodeez1573 7 жыл бұрын
#1 Thunder Fan statistically... this year in the regular season. Durant is the better player.
@trustyourself5988
@trustyourself5988 5 жыл бұрын
He joined a fucking 73-9 team man this shouldnt even be a discussion
@joshuapooranmal8656
@joshuapooranmal8656 7 жыл бұрын
"Kevin Durant is 6'11with a 7'6 wingspan who can pull up from 30" We missed you Stephen A
@SolarTechnolgy
@SolarTechnolgy 7 жыл бұрын
For some reason no one understands this...the only reason they are discussing such an ignorant disrespectful question is to get more viewers of their show and become more popular in the media.
@mikeywinca1
@mikeywinca1 7 жыл бұрын
It's Lebron fault for having that bench. He personally pick his bench.
@epetrie9459
@epetrie9459 7 жыл бұрын
Lebron: 4mvps 3rings 3finales mvp Durant: 1mvp 1ring 1finales mvp
@reynaldo1387
@reynaldo1387 6 жыл бұрын
Whose watching in 2018 when Lebron can shoot
@yazdanjf3140
@yazdanjf3140 6 жыл бұрын
Random Guy jup
@bobbob6851
@bobbob6851 6 жыл бұрын
Red Skittles I agree as I am a lebron fan also but that heat team had an outstanding floor spacing with people like ray Allen and miller he shot that 40% because he would be left open more but nonetheless it was a great shooting season
@sephron17
@sephron17 7 жыл бұрын
anyone that thinks KD is even close to LBJ doesn't know basketball
@Spiteyishere
@Spiteyishere 7 жыл бұрын
sephron17 he is close but not that close
@GreatCanadian21
@GreatCanadian21 7 жыл бұрын
You right fam
@KevawnTv
@KevawnTv 7 жыл бұрын
Kd has always been close to lbj tbh
@alexandermoon7218
@alexandermoon7218 7 жыл бұрын
Nah specially right now that team up with a super team Kd aka the snake you're can't put him on the same sentence as lebron
@SoggySlopster
@SoggySlopster 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly KD is way better than Bronny
@snivblackops_6942
@snivblackops_6942 7 жыл бұрын
no disrespect but lebron fanboys are the worst
@kylelindsay6390
@kylelindsay6390 6 жыл бұрын
Na that's them GSW fans all the fuck shit they support
@xkid.darkskin5178
@xkid.darkskin5178 6 жыл бұрын
Kyle Lindsay 3-6
@damilareajani5747
@damilareajani5747 5 жыл бұрын
snivblackops _ haters are worse at least we’re are being positive supporting someone but you’re being very negative hating on a man loser
@kylelindsay6390
@kylelindsay6390 4 жыл бұрын
Lebron haters are the worst cause y'all come wit any excuse
@loganrileymusic
@loganrileymusic 7 жыл бұрын
Okay if that was the case how come no one is saying Kyrie Irving is better than Curry. 2016 NBA Finals Kyrie scored a game winning 3 over Curry in game 7
@idkidk6164
@idkidk6164 6 жыл бұрын
Logan Erwin Because Curry’s on a higher level than Kyrie.
@JustJahSports
@JustJahSports 6 жыл бұрын
Idk Idk no not really
@sportshighlights8270
@sportshighlights8270 6 жыл бұрын
YourWelcome 3D yes really
@crazylegendstevenson4906
@crazylegendstevenson4906 6 жыл бұрын
YourWelcome 3D shall I hop on you curry was hurt regardless of if he played this isn’t an excuse but you could see it the handle will always be there but when curry can’t beat people off the dribble something is wrong bcuz nobody can guard him one on one Mcl sprains are not a joke his shot is depending on his legs as well as his quickness curry wasn’t the same period when healthy name a team that coulda beat golden state in the finals Nobody in 2016 bcuz they got owned. 2017 showed that curry was back Kevin Love if he can stay in front of steph you know something wrong bcuz he’s slow footed. 2017 is what 2016 woulda been if everyone was healthy n curry hit that same shot on Kyrie again as revenge people need to stop disrespecting the injury to curry in 2015 love and Kyrie Kyrie woulda made a difference but love not as much he’s not Minnesota love anymore. Curry is better than Kyrie no matter how you put it numbers don’t lie the accolades don’t lie either don’t try to argue with numbers period 2 time mvp scoring champ steals leader 50 40 90 member 400 3s in a season 2 time nba Champ and the first uniamous mvp
@254ChuckDawg
@254ChuckDawg 6 жыл бұрын
CrazyKay Stevenson boy getcho dumbass
@RaiderSteelerfan
@RaiderSteelerfan 7 жыл бұрын
This best player in the world debate is getting too blown out of proportion it's pathetic... This 2017 NBA Finals will go down as the worst NBA Finals series in the history of the NBA... Also this series exhibits how weak the NBA has became competitive-wise...
@spreadlove7761
@spreadlove7761 7 жыл бұрын
RaiderSteelerfan factsss
@TheAliisawesome
@TheAliisawesome 7 жыл бұрын
RaiderSteelerfan BIG W
@jaybrick8973
@jaybrick8973 7 жыл бұрын
RaiderSteelerfan true
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL 7 жыл бұрын
How is it the worst series? Last night's game was actually close, some series have been all blowouts.
@spreadlove7761
@spreadlove7761 7 жыл бұрын
ADAJ3 bro a finals series is suppose to be unpredictable , unexpected, your not suppose to expect its gonna be over before it starts
@YoungDen
@YoungDen 7 жыл бұрын
The fact that KD is still efficient and closes out the game on the biggest stage against the King says he is in a different stratosphere
@ericshyaka2587
@ericshyaka2587 7 жыл бұрын
I think for someone to have so many good players on his team who are going to take more chances, giving Durant less time but still be able to average 30 points, that is dope.
@youstupid5205
@youstupid5205 7 жыл бұрын
Sooo kd joins a 73-9 team... he plays 3 great games he's better then Lebron James? Huh the fuck
@matttheknicksfan
@matttheknicksfan 7 жыл бұрын
The baddest man on The planet AND LBJ is averaging a trip dub
@SuperSonic_868
@SuperSonic_868 7 жыл бұрын
than
@j4genius961
@j4genius961 7 жыл бұрын
Young Sachi Come on?! You do your best to defend Lebron? How can you switch argument so fast? Is it because you can't answer?He told you that KD has had better stats than Lebron for 3 years now.What makes a player better then?! Last year Cavs were way better than OKC, and if Lebron was so great he wouldn't have taken that big fat 3 in his face.The fact is as a GSW fan, I'm way more afraid when Irving has the ball than LBJ, that's a fact: All time Lebron is better than KD but RIGHT NOW KD is the best, take it to the head....And Lebron will never catch Jordan, not even Kobe, he isn't clutch at all
@ecks8
@ecks8 7 жыл бұрын
Hes played 3 better games vs Lebron. It was a direct matchup. KD won.
@pairodeez1573
@pairodeez1573 7 жыл бұрын
The baddest man on The planet how about the entire season of better stats... the shot in his face is just the cherry on the top.
@andyshin7291
@andyshin7291 7 жыл бұрын
Have they not seen KD in OKC last yr against the Warriors? 3-1 lead. But he and Russ never trusted their teammates, ended up playing too many minutes and burnt out in the 4th. So they choked, turned the ball over a whole bunch and missed a lot of bad shots. The only difference this year is that KD has more legs in the 4th quarter cus his team's 2nd unit can keep score tight against Cleveland's 1.5 unit.
@satyamtaparia7999
@satyamtaparia7999 6 жыл бұрын
Durant is more versatile and probably a little better than LeBron at offense. That said LeBron is still the better player overall.
@9durrell9
@9durrell9 5 жыл бұрын
A little? No a lot!
@Iamthemfgoatt
@Iamthemfgoatt 5 жыл бұрын
@@9durrell9 LeBron has a higher FG% for his career
@Recurses
@Recurses Жыл бұрын
No
@richardhermida5246
@richardhermida5246 7 жыл бұрын
There has to be space in the market for a show like this that is actually done with rigor and serious analytics, logic, etc...
@fondofU89
@fondofU89 7 жыл бұрын
I just like watching these pros go at it.
@SH-jd3zg
@SH-jd3zg 7 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion… LeBron is better than Kevin Durant… Smh sad how people aren't witnessing his greatness because players who have yet to prove anything finally start to show up… Anytime anyone plays good or has a good run they eclipse LeBron lol… KD leaving OKC makes that conclusion harder to make because instead of being the guy he wanted to win with a good team where steph is obviously the guy & that keeps him behind LeBron because LeBron is going to go out & keep competing as a leader. LeBron may not be as good a shooter but he'll go out there & try to uplift his guys & KD doesn't need to do that at GSW, he failed to at OKC people blame Westbrook but if KD wanted to win he would've pulled him aside & inserted himself more… He couldn't win with OKC because he wouldn't become a better leader… Great players are great leaders MJ Magic for example were both leaders…
@alexandermoon7218
@alexandermoon7218 7 жыл бұрын
Savanna Henry So you're trying to say Kd he's a líder?
@stanleypaulcasemiro4441
@stanleypaulcasemiro4441 6 жыл бұрын
Nonsense, why LJ joined the Miami Heat?
@ericwatler23
@ericwatler23 6 жыл бұрын
KD has been better than that guy PERIOD.
@Mickeydicky
@Mickeydicky 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Watler haha youre smoking so strong stuff mate
@amanual8710
@amanual8710 5 жыл бұрын
Me: one on one with mj throws up shot makes it Media: Is hE BetTeR ThAn mJ
@george4281
@george4281 5 жыл бұрын
LeBron James a wild bronsexual appeared! He is better than LeBron buddy no question about it
@amanual8710
@amanual8710 5 жыл бұрын
@@george4281 who is better if you say mj I agree if you say Durant I don't
@brianrichard5539
@brianrichard5539 5 жыл бұрын
@@george4281 L
@hulkrules1567
@hulkrules1567 7 жыл бұрын
this can't be a real debate
@rydersonthestorm7175
@rydersonthestorm7175 7 жыл бұрын
The greatest excel in the greatest moments.
@Vixterification
@Vixterification 7 жыл бұрын
KD > LEBUM
@aravbhatt2875
@aravbhatt2875 6 жыл бұрын
Victor L for Larriors
@larriors9124
@larriors9124 6 жыл бұрын
Victor L
@larriors9124
@larriors9124 6 жыл бұрын
Victor Kd has to joina 73-9 team he lost to and u think he better 😂😂😂😂
@ritwikjaipuriar1858
@ritwikjaipuriar1858 6 жыл бұрын
Victor Dumbfuck
@Iamthemfgoatt
@Iamthemfgoatt 5 жыл бұрын
Look daddy! I've spotted another Warriors bandwagon named Victor!
@aboutmillions
@aboutmillions 7 жыл бұрын
"If lebron was in KD's place he would do the same thing" FALSE he didnt do it when he played vs The Mavs and he had a stacked Roster. FOH Molly
@nonyafoe3326
@nonyafoe3326 6 жыл бұрын
AboutMillions mavs team was no joke
@divineslisk2213
@divineslisk2213 6 жыл бұрын
AboutMillions that mavs team swept kobe bryants championship team. Like the other guy said that mavs team is no joke
@dcgtno2118
@dcgtno2118 4 жыл бұрын
Mav were a good team though
@waisoserious3017
@waisoserious3017 7 жыл бұрын
Wait a second...So KD out performing Lebron doesnt prove he is a better player because GSW compliments KD's attributes more? Did i hear that correctly? Lebron has been doing that this entire 7 years. That's why he needs Bosh and Love. So they can stretch the floor for Lebron because Lebron is a terrible jump shooter. So Bosh and Love can stretch the floor by standing at the perimeter, thus opening up the lane for Lebron to do layups and dunks. Also allowing Lebron to collect several assists along the way while Bosh and Love sacrifice their own personal stats (especially Rebounds while Lebron collects his assists and rebound stats). But during this time ESPN was proclaiming Lebron the best ever. But now that KD is doing it, it doesn't count... OK ESPN!!! GOT IT!!
@brinksboys9146
@brinksboys9146 7 жыл бұрын
W
@JUICESxFLOWIN
@JUICESxFLOWIN 7 жыл бұрын
Waisoserious smartest comment I've read regarding this argument 👌🏻
@iliketoeatpizzas1495
@iliketoeatpizzas1495 7 жыл бұрын
Waisoserious Dafuq? You sound stupid as fuck boi, KD didnt collect assets, he already went to a team full of assets..... Fuck u mean gtfoh dumbass nigga.
@lpbgib
@lpbgib 7 жыл бұрын
KD went to the greatest team of all time that was like LeBron going to the spurs in 2010 instead of Heat, heat weren’t doing good the season before he arrived
@koizanamiwinchester
@koizanamiwinchester 6 жыл бұрын
Lol im not even a fan of both o this team and i just saw this video in this day but this makes me laugh.Clearly a biased comment plus the reason is just absurd.You're clearly a KD fan.Max is right.You don't get it dont you.Compare the level of your so called Love and bosh to the current GSW team lol it's not even close.The GSW team i better than cavs thats a fact.But KD is better than Lebron no way.KD has an easier job than lebron.Lebron is carrying the whole team.KD has 3 more allstar in his team plus a great bench players.WTF is the sense of that argument.And i will bet my whole life savings that if they switch teams KD wont even get close on the competition against a lebron with GSW team.Sorry bro but your reasons and deduction is just absurd totally i biased deduction
@luny2nez281
@luny2nez281 4 жыл бұрын
SAS: Can the one individual who actually knows basketball interject here? Max: I already did 🤣🤣
@kylecarney2149
@kylecarney2149 7 жыл бұрын
I think a big part of the difference between the Warriors and Cavs is Kerr and Brown are coaching circles around Lue.
@MaRio-vm2wc
@MaRio-vm2wc 7 жыл бұрын
Bruh I watched every game over and over this morning along with that last 3 by Durant . Lebron james didn't want no part of Durant in that pull up 3 and throughout the game 1 and 2. Lebron literally looks like he's afraid to guard Durant.
@lavarball2790
@lavarball2790 7 жыл бұрын
Cavs gonna come back from 3-0 deficit. Imma speak it into existence
@laxusdreyar2784
@laxusdreyar2784 7 жыл бұрын
Shut up your sons are busts
@ISlayForFun
@ISlayForFun 7 жыл бұрын
Kawhi is better than Durant FACTS!!!!
@dexterbryant2371
@dexterbryant2371 7 жыл бұрын
Big facts
@Uzimacky
@Uzimacky 7 жыл бұрын
I'm the G.O.A.T gtfoh KD is better and more valuable than Kawhi. And Le3-5 ain't even top 5 of all time with his floppin, high ego and 3-5 Finals record havinass.
@carmeloanthony4153
@carmeloanthony4153 7 жыл бұрын
Mike McCoy le3-1 is already the second greatest player of all time.
@Uzimacky
@Uzimacky 7 жыл бұрын
Carmelo Anthony he's not even top 5.
@josephgamingandvlogs6953
@josephgamingandvlogs6953 7 жыл бұрын
I'm the G.O.A.T exactly
@PuReUnityz
@PuReUnityz 6 жыл бұрын
And look at the playoffs this year already hit 2 game winners and a game winning block!
@MouldySloth
@MouldySloth 7 жыл бұрын
I swear Max is usually the only one on first take that makes sense these days.
@amethyst5552
@amethyst5552 7 жыл бұрын
Max needa stop talking about boxing like we give a fuck every 5 minutes
@TunaNoCrust2024
@TunaNoCrust2024 7 жыл бұрын
KD "the snake" > Lebron "the bitch"
@ztvideos5428
@ztvideos5428 6 жыл бұрын
jutasportsman the bandwagon
@zacchaeusm
@zacchaeusm 7 жыл бұрын
now ill say this, Kevin durant is a better scorer by far
@m.davinci9285
@m.davinci9285 6 жыл бұрын
Zachie & he play better defense than LeBron don't forget that... LeBron defense is horrible
@TranquilAura77
@TranquilAura77 6 жыл бұрын
wrong, scoring is not just shooting my dude, its efficiency, volume and the value of your points relative to the teams sucess because Lebron is damn near 100 percent the cavs offense whereas the fucking warriors can score 130 and kd can be on the becnh in the 4th
@thundxrx918
@thundxrx918 4 жыл бұрын
Max speaking facts.
@mrgotham3685
@mrgotham3685 7 жыл бұрын
People act like LeBron isn't the reason the Cavs are even hanging with this Warriors team...
@SoggySlopster
@SoggySlopster 7 жыл бұрын
Max got owned
@aravbhatt2875
@aravbhatt2875 6 жыл бұрын
Rob Mayher no he owned
@daveyap9317
@daveyap9317 6 жыл бұрын
Arav Bhatt no you dumbass max is lebron dickrider
@NotoriousNYNJ
@NotoriousNYNJ 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Durant is more clutch and a better scorer... lebron is still the better all around player
@mikatteba225
@mikatteba225 6 жыл бұрын
Shariff Barak another G3 dagger later.
@nonyafoe3326
@nonyafoe3326 6 жыл бұрын
Marc NY how is blowing a 3-1 lead clutch
@mikatteba225
@mikatteba225 6 жыл бұрын
It's not our fault if you died in 2016, just see these Game 3 daggers in 2017 and 2018 finals.
@vuongph
@vuongph 6 жыл бұрын
Francisco Lopez How is 3-6 clutch?
@kaiiiiiiiii1445
@kaiiiiiiiii1445 7 жыл бұрын
KD is not better than Lebron
@Cyberclone8790
@Cyberclone8790 6 жыл бұрын
Shut up snake ass nigga 🐍🐍🐍🐍
@aravbhatt2875
@aravbhatt2875 6 жыл бұрын
no he isn't
@Cyberclone8790
@Cyberclone8790 6 жыл бұрын
Arav Bhatt lebron >Durant snake cupcake
@larriors9124
@larriors9124 6 жыл бұрын
durant teamed up with steph to beat lebron cuz he’s a cupcake
@larriors9124
@larriors9124 6 жыл бұрын
Cyberclone8790 i agree
@anthony62804
@anthony62804 7 жыл бұрын
Hell nah this shouldn't be a debate
@zerozero9594
@zerozero9594 7 жыл бұрын
Dont let this thing let you guys forget that the warrior blew a 3-1 lead
@reggiespear7455
@reggiespear7455 7 жыл бұрын
stop making excuses for LeBron they choked he soft a paper champion heartless
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831 7 жыл бұрын
Reggie Spear Type in Floyd Mayweather says Lebron James isn't the King on KZbin.
@breedndot5455
@breedndot5455 7 жыл бұрын
The game was only close due to the refs 😂😂 keep it a buck
@larriors9124
@larriors9124 6 жыл бұрын
Breed Ndot fuck you bitch
@kingruss7339
@kingruss7339 7 жыл бұрын
Give me Kawhi over KD 😴
@sirruffalot
@sirruffalot 7 жыл бұрын
Updated Goat list: 1. MJ 2. Kareem 3. Wilt 4. Bill Russell 5. Magic 6. Kobe 7. Lebron 8. Bird 9. Shaq (He's lower on the list because of his work ethic) 10. Tim Duncan
@Masterpsflood
@Masterpsflood 7 жыл бұрын
Thank God for Max
@emadtalukdar6340
@emadtalukdar6340 7 жыл бұрын
Using the fact that the Warriors have a more talented team and a better coached team is hypothetical. Hypothetical points are weak. All that matters is in-game performance. In this series LeBron has played as good if not better than KD overall. The biggest reason the Cavs lose is because the rest of the team don't show up BUT that's not the only reason. Another reason that most people seem to be ignoring is that the last 3 games, LeBron has underperformed in the second half of the game. Game 1 and 2, the Cavs were within single digits by the end of the first half. In the first half of games 1 and 2 LeBron has been playing great but in the second half he plays much worse. The difference here is that KD plays great throughout the entire game. Even in game 3, whilst unlike the other games LeBron stayed poised up until the end of the 3rd, he shown again that he can remain constant throughout the game like KD can and hence LeBron had to rely on Kyrie and Korver to close the game whilst KD was just performing great individually and ended up with the game sealing 3. Now I can accept that the reason it's like this is because LeBron is older and therefore fatigues quicker. Do you really think that's a point in favour though? 😂 That's like saying that MJ is better than LeBron right now but he can't show it because he is older. Just accept that LeBron is older and therefore his time is up and he is now physically compromised to a point where he can't outplay KD. Yall talking as if it isn't possible that a 4 years younger number 2 won't catch up to an ageing number 1.
@dees358
@dees358 7 жыл бұрын
Emad Talukdar You ever think that because Lebrun has to do more than kd that he gets tired and can't sustain the level of play? Kd is not out performing Lebron, the warriors are all around a much better team than the cavs. And if you think that if the roles were switched, that kd would be able to do what lebron is doing you're insane. Switch the roles and lebron and gs would walk all over kd and the cavs, wouldn't even be close. It's a team sport, lebron can't win by himself against an all-star team. Anyone who thinks kd is better than lebron or even equal is delusional to the fact that he joined a 73-9 team that was considered possibly the best team ever.
@Vertekmaster
@Vertekmaster 7 жыл бұрын
Emad Talukdar how is it hypothetical? I'm pretty sure you know that the warriors have the better team, and the better coach. But I can agree with you. LeBron does look exhausted in the second half of each game. I can see why LeBron doesn't guard KD. Its not because he can't, it's because if he does, he'll get tired quicker, and we know how useless Cleveland is without LeBron on the court. It's just embarrassing how bad they are without LeBron on the court, I'm talking 76ers bad. Unfortunately, LeBron can't carry a team who has no defense, and is inconsistent as hell. If I was LeBron, I'd try to avoid the sweep.
@Jason-cu6wx
@Jason-cu6wx 7 жыл бұрын
KD has more talent than Lebron this isn't debatable.
@venomf0
@venomf0 6 жыл бұрын
Shariff Barak 3-6 vs 2-1
@johnfunny3057
@johnfunny3057 7 жыл бұрын
Durant is better.is the G.O.A.T
@larriors9124
@larriors9124 6 жыл бұрын
john funny L
@Jay32711
@Jay32711 7 жыл бұрын
all of a sudden KD is the best player after joining a already stacked team, man get the heck out of here!!
@nickyao3329
@nickyao3329 6 жыл бұрын
Feel like KD joined the warriors just for bringing him into that discussion. And he knows he will never be that person.
@yayobadazz92
@yayobadazz92 7 жыл бұрын
it's always excuse for LeBitch loosing the game cn pple just expact LeBitch blew the game himself smh
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831 7 жыл бұрын
Toye Bombata Type in Floyd Mayweather says Lebron James isn't the King on KZbin.
@yayobadazz92
@yayobadazz92 7 жыл бұрын
HIPHOPSINCE1996 aye fuck boy wtf r u talkin bout nigga
@ottoporter1709
@ottoporter1709 7 жыл бұрын
Lebron would not be doing the same thing on the warriors because he's not as good of a shooter he's not really a closer and he's an isolation player who needs the ball in his hands a lot of the time in a system where they use player movement and off ball screens lebron hasn't proved that he's a great off ball player
@connorsmith6517
@connorsmith6517 7 жыл бұрын
otto porter guess you didn't watch Miami basketball....
@ottoporter1709
@ottoporter1709 7 жыл бұрын
Al Bundy F.B.Z. Miami heat is my favorite team actually 😴
@hansolodolo1672
@hansolodolo1672 7 жыл бұрын
Bankai652 and he choked then muthafuckas won 2 rings when they were supposed to win 8 according to LeBron gtfoh he still doesn't play off ball he needs the ball in his hands at all times and when kyrie had the ball he just stood there and watched
@yvngmatic4088
@yvngmatic4088 7 жыл бұрын
Solomon Oliver but kevin durant couldn't carry the cavs
@hansolodolo1672
@hansolodolo1672 7 жыл бұрын
Chi3f Matic Kevin Durant went to the finals in the West and carried his team in the playoffs with no Westbrook the East sucks ass no comparison KD had to get through Elite teams LeBron plays in the weak ass East
@tyreklesesne4125
@tyreklesesne4125 7 жыл бұрын
Kd always have been better to me only thing lebron do better is pass he been like this all his life
@charlesthechef9549
@charlesthechef9549 7 жыл бұрын
TyRek Lesesne passing, defense, rebounding, (based on career) scoring and leading
@humblest23
@humblest23 7 жыл бұрын
TyRek Lesesne look at advanced stats. plus minus, or value over replacement, KD is not close to LeBron
@tyreklesesne4125
@tyreklesesne4125 7 жыл бұрын
H W fukk the advance stats
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831 7 жыл бұрын
TyRek Lesesne Type in Floyd Mayweather says Lebron James isn't the King on KZbin.
@blakeneal99
@blakeneal99 7 жыл бұрын
TyRek Lesesne you sound stupid
@jonjackson2177
@jonjackson2177 7 жыл бұрын
I always hear Max Kellerman talk about KD being the beta to Westbrook's alpha in OKC. Last night we all witnessed a growth in KD. With that shot, with that confidence/atitude KD has elevated to THE MAN.
@jbolo5378
@jbolo5378 7 жыл бұрын
50 years from now, bronsexuals be like " bruh, LeBron be the best player in the senior wheelchair league."
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831 7 жыл бұрын
J Bolo Type in Floyd Mayweather says Lebron James isn't the King on KZbin.
@drewkirke5507
@drewkirke5507 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about hockey yo
@CommandoMaster
@CommandoMaster 7 жыл бұрын
Kevin Durant is the best player ever!
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831
@daydayfunnyazzcomedy6831 7 жыл бұрын
Commando Master Type in Floyd Mayweather says Lebron James isn't the King on KZbin.
@dexterbryant2371
@dexterbryant2371 7 жыл бұрын
Stay off the coke bro
@JayTillah-xl1fb
@JayTillah-xl1fb 7 жыл бұрын
Lebrons a stat ladder period
@jarrengearon4280
@jarrengearon4280 7 жыл бұрын
u no nothing
@mikearmaos1092
@mikearmaos1092 6 жыл бұрын
Fuck off
@user-uh7mb3jb3t
@user-uh7mb3jb3t 7 жыл бұрын
I like when Will and Max go at it. Good jousting. Stephen A brings the gauntlet.
@Mamba2442.
@Mamba2442. 7 жыл бұрын
max kellerman hedges his opinion in every way possible
@3bhoes
@3bhoes 7 жыл бұрын
high leverage moments!?!?! das dat sneaky talk!!! to make it sound less bad
@Kidkinsey
@Kidkinsey 7 жыл бұрын
soooo outplaying somebody in a series does NOT mean you are a better player?? but when kyrie outplayed curry in a series y'all said kyrie was better
@ilovegilbert-tv6276
@ilovegilbert-tv6276 6 жыл бұрын
WHY? we compare the great players before why the great players today and judge them all
@kingzlimitz4599
@kingzlimitz4599 7 жыл бұрын
Just think of it like this. Who are u giving the ball in crunch time? That will give u ur best player in the world.
@urielriley
@urielriley 3 жыл бұрын
I been told yaw KD it's the best scorer I've ever seen. You should have seen him at the Rucker park. 💯🥇👑 KD it's the best scorer of all time.
@silvertiger937
@silvertiger937 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen A smith acts like he is the only sports analyst who know anything about basketball.
@account.964
@account.964 3 жыл бұрын
if making a three makes you better than lebron then steph curry is 2832 times better than him
@TekkLuthor
@TekkLuthor 7 жыл бұрын
0:39 - I wonder what Max is thinking this exact moment
@yslmarcos2100
@yslmarcos2100 7 жыл бұрын
End of one era and start of another.
@goukisan2869
@goukisan2869 7 жыл бұрын
don't let this distract you from the fact that M.J would never allow a kyrie take the final shot of a game.
@mrbroho98_-82
@mrbroho98_-82 7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to end all arguments now Kobe is a basketball player
@edisjd
@edisjd 7 жыл бұрын
When making points SAS narrows down his criteria to fit his argument. This is a classic case of cherry picking. Basically "Player A is the greatest player when he does what I deem most important in a game exactly the way i want to see it done."
@randy2152
@randy2152 7 жыл бұрын
Basketball is a team game. But saying your teammates didn't do their part is an excuse. What?????
@swiperboysb6897
@swiperboysb6897 7 жыл бұрын
the audience in the back had to get up really really early to get those seats
@aquaticsplashes
@aquaticsplashes 7 жыл бұрын
thank you max has some damn common sense
@NJglorifiedcrew
@NJglorifiedcrew 7 жыл бұрын
KD will be the best in the world when LeBron retires, PERIOD. You joined a 73 win team...
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