Will Cain was low key right. KD really did make Lebron leave the Cavs.
@goatstature82634 жыл бұрын
no he didnt
@SinisterFreeman6664 жыл бұрын
Lebron didn't leave his contact in Cleveland is over.
@milp.25034 жыл бұрын
Just remember that the only reason that KD joined the Warriors was to defeat LeBron
@dreday19284 жыл бұрын
Goat Stature he did lol 😂
@dreday19284 жыл бұрын
J Allen what. So why not resign ?
@trxlljuju88287 жыл бұрын
these were the same people burning lebron's jersey when he first left.....funny
@alexanderwalters76576 жыл бұрын
Trxll Juju cuz average people aint shit
@gatorent.productionbuffrec87975 жыл бұрын
They back dikk riding when he came back
@antoniomontgomery13496 жыл бұрын
Its 3-6 now Will Cain was right lol 1yr from Jun 9th 2017
@efisgpr6 жыл бұрын
Antonio Montgomery & Leaving Cleveland too... LMAO
@TropicaIJay6 жыл бұрын
@A Friendly Hobo my point exactly they're winning again the 2018-2019 season too.
@jovawnglory20185 жыл бұрын
Low Distortion nope
@MOCskoden4 жыл бұрын
4-6*
@lioneljones31407 жыл бұрын
"Singlehandedly" like Steph ain't averaging 28-9-9.7 😒
@raferalstonisgoat44577 жыл бұрын
yeah they low key forget about curry and the rest of the team carrying durant. Durant was NEVER averaging 35 in any series. The warriors have such great players and shooters that space the floor to the point that kd shooting 60%.
@brashadcarr67597 жыл бұрын
Skip 2 My Lou in 2012 kd averaged 31 on 50% shooting in the finals nice try but stop
@raferalstonisgoat44577 жыл бұрын
Bkc 14 K 30.6 ppg ain't 35.2 ppg and that 2012 thunder team gave him the ball a lot more. Durant only averaged 2 assists in the 2012 finals and he played 43 minutes a game compared to 39 minutes in the 2017 finals. The games were close in 2012 and durant gave it all he got. However, KD was wide open most of his points in 2017 finals. Watch the highlights. Mike Breen: "durant open, durant with easy dunk, durant with the uncontested jumper..." Durant could have played more in the 2017 finals and averaged 40 if he wanted. Durant made all his points look easy because they WERE EASY. Lebron 30% of points were assisted on vs. 70% of durants points were assisted on. Not taking credit away from his dominance but cavs did have to deal with guarding curry and klay. Without durant on the team the team still makes the finals but without curry the team ain't making it past the spurs. Durant 48% from three and 4 threes a game when has he shot like that before?
@raferalstonisgoat44577 жыл бұрын
Also 70% true shooting percentage in 2017 finals compared to 65% in 2012.
@george42815 жыл бұрын
@@raferalstonisgoat4457 so you don't expect him to improve when he was 5 years younger
@RyuuseiBlizzard7 жыл бұрын
*Yeah single-handedly with his 3 all star, all-nba teammates...*
@jjuunniioorr87787 жыл бұрын
Draco I gotta make it back...
@MrBarborosa7 жыл бұрын
Draco AND IGGY
@feynmans4677 жыл бұрын
What, like the 2012 Heat?
@RyuuseiBlizzard7 жыл бұрын
bernt barbera I was gonna say 4 all star team mates but I left Iggy off cus he's not allstar level right now
@PalmdalesAdonis7 жыл бұрын
didn't u say cavs in 6
@bestknownunknown206 жыл бұрын
What’s amazing to say is even with all of those added players the warriors have, Lebron is still a “super” threat to the entire system just with role players. No team today led by only Durant, or Harden, or Curry, or any other allstar would stand a chance in a 7 game finals with a team of role players led by Lebron. Even if you add an all star duo. It’s impossible. Steve Kerr will admit that much...
@jaeseebanks55916 жыл бұрын
Will Cain did say KD would run Bron out of Cleveland.
@N8veJay4 жыл бұрын
That was a solid prediction he said 😱
@felipe59553 жыл бұрын
The warriors made KD run to them😂 That’s just embarrassing
@Apexssb3 жыл бұрын
@@felipe5955 the warriors begged KD to join them after they lost. They realized they can't win without Durant
@jtrillz39533 жыл бұрын
He left because he dropped 51 in an NBA finals game and still lost
@homemademusic37857 жыл бұрын
Kevin Durant is the definition of the ultimate basketball player.. The only thing he lacked was defense but now that he has made his mind up to become a stopper on D to go along with his unstoppable offense, he is the ultimate basketball player.
@richsbkay6 жыл бұрын
LeBron got as many finals losses as Jordan got rings
@jerryteo49726 жыл бұрын
rich_one That is such an impressive record! Wonder how he did that...not easy to lose 66.67% of finals .....a legend
@trizzysmeez36986 жыл бұрын
Ow lol!!!!
@vie31475 жыл бұрын
rich_one 100💯👌
@slimshady50884 жыл бұрын
rich_one ya with Jordan having help with lebron vs all time spurs and warriors with no help please stop
@PhillyPhinest4 жыл бұрын
@@slimshady5088 If you listen to Max in the video hes right. If LeBron wouldve beat the warriors in 17' (with kyrie) he wouldve lifted himself above Jordan but he didn't because he utterly choked in game 3, going down 3-0 and having no chance to come back, then Kyrie leaves, LeBron goes to another finals going through a WEAK eastern conference and gets swept because he has no help
@mrravimc7 жыл бұрын
No matter what LeBron James does, it'll never be enough to silence his critics. This dude just knocked off a 73 win team with epic performances, coming back from 3-1, leading Cleveland to its first title, and 12 months later, he's averaging 32/12/10 against a better version of that team, and we're asking if his legacy is ruined lmao.
@Raymond02ish7 жыл бұрын
Javier Woolrich I guess lebron didn't contribute to any of the games either right? he didn't do not a darn thing until it was time to pass it to Irving. dude get the hate out your ❤. be realistic. I think curry and durant are the biggest bitches in the league right now, but I won't never discredit their talent and I know what they bring to a game.
@TheAliisawesome7 жыл бұрын
Aquil S hes a great. But hes not passing MJ. He had a higher PER, both playoff and regular. Highest ppg in regular and playoffs. Dude knows how to win hence why he is 6-0 with 6 final MVPs. MJ truly is the diamond standard.
@ivankawnartist7 жыл бұрын
Aquil S running a regular season that hard can wear you down. hence beating a team who did so well regular season, might be easier than you're allowing yourself to understand/admit.
@apostalote7 жыл бұрын
That's one of the worst excuses ever. If you're tired from trying to hard in the regular season that's your fault. They had a 3-1 lead and couldn't close it out. No excuses for that.
@htxflow7 жыл бұрын
Aquil S Facts!!!!!!!!
@haroldk93697 жыл бұрын
*Imagine if any other player was held to the same bar as LeBron?* Imagine if LeBron blew a 3-1 in the WCF and then bandwagoned the team that beat him, debatably one of the best teams the league has ever seen (73-9). Pause and take that in
@jusanotherdev97122 жыл бұрын
still can't believe the weakness of his move 5 years later.
@nezzwilson7452 Жыл бұрын
Who cares KD in 7
@yohanesscunningham7435 Жыл бұрын
@@nezzwilson7452 7 years?
@JayRicoche10 ай бұрын
@@yohanesscunningham7435 7 decades
@jack_jupiter19817 жыл бұрын
For once I think I agree with Stephen A
@Eight_N9ne_Phinfan7 жыл бұрын
jack_jupiter lol except he's wrong on this topic lol
@CSG01037 жыл бұрын
Arsen Jan go easy on him, his ass is probably still chapped from dick riding LeBron the brief time he used his team for rings to boost his legacy
@KayMattersOfficial6 жыл бұрын
Maurice Williams shut up please everything Steven said was facts
@dopevidz6 жыл бұрын
Same here
@kennetheugene64026 жыл бұрын
jack_jupiter sure as hell agree with Steven a smith
@tempseason90687 жыл бұрын
THAT IS BLASPHEMOUS!! Stephen A is officially back lol
@lancebreakfield80137 жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs watch your self with racist remarks. It's real lame ppl get on here and open there mouths with this bs.
@jonathanhambright21516 жыл бұрын
BYFARTV fuck Stephen bald head ahhh
@ethanfairfield74256 жыл бұрын
The dude on the right is an idiot. He's basically saying that if MJ would have taken LeBron's spot on the cavs that they would have won. Bullshit. No matter who replaces LeBron, they aren't winning against the Golden State Warriors
@YuniqueMane97766 жыл бұрын
Steve Jobs dam bruh where do you get your weed from?? I need some of whatever you smoking on bruh!
@doronnazar71116 жыл бұрын
Haha
@s0n0legend067 жыл бұрын
single-handedly? doesn't he have the 2 best shooters in nba history on his team including a unanimous mvp? lol espn stop being prisoners of the moment it's disrespectful. Dickriding the warriors SMH
@NoFilterX7 жыл бұрын
S0n0legend0 are you dumb. kd ruined lebron legacy bc they getting swept and hes 3-5 idiot. if he didnt, why you care about kd joining?
@tjwilliams56707 жыл бұрын
DreadsAndKush in order for KD to do that he needs a 73-9 team and it has to be a aged lebron. get it straight u dumb fan. hes 3-5 yes but 7 straight finals appearance. are u forgetting KD only been there twice!? so he 1-1 if he wins the finals this year which is lower than lebrons Finals %. lbj 3-5 = 57% KD 1-1= 50% so if that's ur argument plz just STFU.
@alektoledo44367 жыл бұрын
S0n0legend0 dude you are so right how stupid people are being do they really think if LeBron and KD just switched teams the results would be the exact fucking same
@Idiombomb7 жыл бұрын
What about Steph Curry? Is he ruining Lebron's legacy too? Klay Thompson? Klay had 30 points last game and no one's talking about......why?
@nickf26577 жыл бұрын
Tj Williams 3-5 isn't 57%. 3/8....that's less than 50% bud
@shawnkemp52596 жыл бұрын
i literally watched this thinking this was analysis for the 2018 finals. same argument and its still valid. lebron james will never be MJ.
@likwit71657 жыл бұрын
Yeah with 3 other future Hall of Famers on his team. The Warriors are just too much with KD on that team. They didn't need KD to make it to the Finals and the won it all without him 2 years ago.
@ryanmcburrows80517 жыл бұрын
They didn't need kd to make it to the finals BUT... They do need kd to make it to the finals as EASILY as the Cavs can make it to the finals in the weak east. The Cavs sleep walk thru the east every year so they are well rested by finals. Without kd gsw will have to battle thru the west, risking major fatigue and maybe even an injury from a key player
@jerrelCbanks7 жыл бұрын
Walguens Aristide you sound stupid okay has defense and is lights out in the clutch, green has too much hustle
@jerrelCbanks7 жыл бұрын
Walguens Aristide curry didn't even check his man(klay did) and draymond took up the role of guarding LeBron james(aka the best player in the world). Use your brain not your heart
@jerrelCbanks7 жыл бұрын
Walguens Aristide so did klay. Klay and draymond have the vest defemse on their team, period point blank. Without their defense Steph better make 100% of his chucked up shots. Btw, remember it's "splash BROTHERS" klay is 1/2 of the splash BROTHERS except klay has much better defense and is a better finisher at the rim.
@spazz91466 жыл бұрын
Jerrel Banks draymond green is one of the greatest defensive players in the nba and klay thompson is a lights out shooter u fucking idiot
@elijaharvinger11787 жыл бұрын
No disrespect to Lebron but Jordan would MURDER Lebron if they played in the same era. Jordan loved a challenge and Lebron would have been a challenge . Jordan would drop 60 every time he played Lebron just to prove a point. Lebron dont have the killer in him and thats the difference between a great and a legend
@ben1ben2ben16 жыл бұрын
Well they are obviously both legends. Jordan is just a much bigger legend. If Lebron always played with his game 6 against the Celtics mentality, then he may reach Jordan level
@zeil2ify6 жыл бұрын
lol nothing about lebron makes him a legend. only a lot of very young kids like you think he is special.
@Panjabijs6 жыл бұрын
U still saying that today after game 1?
@karunsagar17736 жыл бұрын
No he wouldn't. Nolstagia is nice, but it doesn't really change that players get better over time. An athelete in any sport today on average is leaps and bounds superior to the average athelete of a sport ten years ago.
@chapotootrill57176 жыл бұрын
Karun Sagar shid that's a damn lie.. what they hell u smoking? Nothing has change there are no innovators. especially LeBron. He still doing the same thing.. the same moves he's been doing in highschool.. u trippin.. most players are just replicas of old players..tryna be like them
@JDB13226 жыл бұрын
Apparently, what Kobe did doesn't count for this people, like he never play in the NBA.
@lyricssong71514 жыл бұрын
Right
@jerrodgarland26044 жыл бұрын
He was great but let’s not gas it he’s not top 5 & the goats know that
@Apexssb3 жыл бұрын
@@jerrodgarland2604 he's top 2
@ezirulez4eva1752 жыл бұрын
@@Apexssb top 4
@AJ_Jingco7 жыл бұрын
LeBron James; 4x Regular Season MVP 3x NBA Champion 3x Finals MVP Kevin Durant; 1x Regular Season MVP How is KD better than LeBron?
@latino9147 жыл бұрын
Aj Jingco in the moment he is overcoming him.
@ranholic50277 жыл бұрын
Why dont u write that kd has 1 championship and a finals mvp?? And dont forget kd is young and healthy lol he can overcome james in rings
@simonsamson99676 жыл бұрын
i remember when MJ said that durant is better than james, good thing that Steve Kerr listens.
@yprime6516 жыл бұрын
LeBron got a dose of his own medicine.
@poncearnel29504 жыл бұрын
He form a super team before with dwade,bosh and allen those are leggend,just to beat the roaring young lion in the face of kd,harden and westbrook..they were too young that time if im not mistaken kd is just 4 season in the league while westbrook and hardeb was 3 season,but still they give the prime lebron,wade and the legend bosh a good play ......now he will taste the dose of his own medicine .hahaha
@DontDrinkthatstuff3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkirschner6009 LeBron still stacked the deck, KD just one upped him. Remember the Heat added 2 all stars including the best player in the game to a team that almost won 50 games. That's still crazy although not as crazy as KD joining GS obviously.
@revolutionaryshooter50013 жыл бұрын
@@poncearnel2950 Ppl forget that OKC was the favorite to win that finals series though. OKC was deeper as a team than that Miami squad.
@headshotjones7726 Жыл бұрын
@@DontDrinkthatstuff they was the 8th seed he left … every team bron leave they go to the lottery… warriors just won again
@DontDrinkthatstuff Жыл бұрын
@@headshotjones7726 Usually because LeBron builds the team and that drains all their assets so then when he leaves they have nothing. Look at Cleveland now, they're doing fine.
@mmmitchin82797 жыл бұрын
MJ never played this monster
@mmmitchin82797 жыл бұрын
Dude would been clapped. rt
@davidgramling31037 жыл бұрын
This depends on what Bron wants, if he wants to avoid being compared to Wilt the way Russell over shadows him, he should head to the Spurs. No more finals against unbeatable teams number one, he'd face the Warriors in the Conference. On top, he's in a system, ready, with a cast ready to beat anyone and the GOAT coach in Pop. Bron gets 3 rings with the Spurs he'll be 6/11 in the finals and back in the GOAT debate. The East will be a mess but it's he smartest move if he wants rings now.
@KrazieSevin7 жыл бұрын
oh yeah, Spurs can easily give up Lamarcus Aldridge to free up space for Lebron, but Lebron won't be a system player in pops offense, he won't ever be a spur, I bet he'd join the Rockets if he ever left Cleveland, he has no chance on Cleveland in a couple of years once Dwade is done, and Drose will still be average and getting older, IT and Kevin love will be in their 30s too, it's going to be game set match against a prime Warriors team by then, if you think this is their prime, in a couple years together they'll be like the Jordan/Pippen bulls; once Dwade is done I think Lebron will bounce if they dont get Paul George in free agency.
@KayMattersOfficial6 жыл бұрын
Good perspective but no he won't be back in the GOAT debate because he has firstly played in a few game 7's and secondly he had to change teams to get rings and credit to the one he has from Cavs as well as the 2 in Miami but MJ didn't do any of the above.
@aarondavis12846 жыл бұрын
"Single handedly" ....with 2 of the greatest shooters of all time
@TenThumbsProductions6 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of Will Cain, especially when he talks in 3rd person.
@chadariu7 жыл бұрын
Same ones bashing KD for his move are begging for Paul George. 😂😂
@CraziBigShow7 жыл бұрын
Darius Chandler not a cavs or warriors hypebeast bandwagon but how are those moves remotely the same
@mattloveohiost57 жыл бұрын
Darius Chandler well if the Warriors can sign second best player and warriors fans have no problem with it, why can't the cavs get Paul George, who isn't close to KD level, and not get any backlash from you idiots? Hypocrites
@iiNeVeRCluTcH7 жыл бұрын
Darius Chandler duh... KD already made the move... now Cavs have to add a piece..
@geechiliberace86827 жыл бұрын
because lebron always beat pg, recently sweeped him and in 2013 indiana blew the series. Pg to the cavs would not be as big because everyone is fixated on hating kd
@ThomasTheTankEngine227 жыл бұрын
Darius Chandler the only way this would be the same thing is is PG went to Cleveland. which i don't think he can bring himself to do that. KD didn't just "go to another team" he went to a team that set the wins record the previous year, that was destined to go to the finals again REGARDLESS of KD, oh and he went to the team THAT he choked against and lost to. people need to realize that's it's not about KD leaving OKC, its not about him going to the warriors per say, its about competitiveness. the "if you can't beat them join them" mentality is not competitive and should never be viewed as competitive.
@jgyrwa7 жыл бұрын
Its obvious that without Steph, or Durant in the league. Lebron would have surpassed Jordans and Kobe in rings. So yes Durant's presence and Steph's does derailed Lebron's legacy of RINGS.
@zjuan87 жыл бұрын
jgyrwa honestly, more steph than anything. KD doesn’t really change much imo. It’s steph that is the biggest challenge
@reezyisback7 жыл бұрын
jgyrwa I agree . Golden state now in general and I'm happy . Lebron chokes too much to be better than MJ . He's not as sensational as MJ and Lebron was blessed and bread to beat MJ since day 1 I remember when he got his huge contract right out of high school , the system wanted him to surpass MJ so I thank Golden State bc Lebron couldn't deliver .
@KrazieSevin7 жыл бұрын
Jordan would have more rings if he didn't retire and even more if the Celtics and Pistons and Lakers weren't so good during his early years......he'd have like 10 rings if he played 20 seasons, Kobe also would have more than 5 if it wasn't for injuries late and if he had better team mates right after shaq left. Lebron will match Kobe with 5 I think, it's going to be hard for him to match 6 and damn near impossible to get 7 now.
@StlyeEasy937 жыл бұрын
B. Reezy he’s hasn’t choked since 2011........ I don’t understand when people say that averages a triple double but he choked
@brashadcarr67597 жыл бұрын
johnny wells game 3 was a choke
@alexrode78587 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but KD must realize the damage being done to his own legacy . . .
@DonkeyKong54797 жыл бұрын
Didn't know being on pace to win numerous rings and Finals MVPs is ruining his legacy 🤔
@whoodyGPonder-fj6hq7 жыл бұрын
Alex Rode Kevin Durant is A super role player!!!!
@jaymoney31347 жыл бұрын
Andrew Blackop exactly
@funfunboi7 жыл бұрын
snake ass
@timrickman92707 жыл бұрын
Andrew Blackop but the story will be that he couldnt do it without joining a already established super team. I use to love kd but i just cant right now. I hope he leaves after he gets a few rings so i can go back to cheering him on.
@Daz5Daz7 жыл бұрын
Single handed? He plays with the greatest shooting back court in history including a guard who creates more space and spreads the floor more than anyone I have ever seen. Also plays alongside one of the all time great defenders. He also has a great bench.
@HpK_Popz6 жыл бұрын
And KD did push LeBron out of Cleveland 🔥😎💯
@the_auditor10175 жыл бұрын
HpK Popz wrong. Dan Gilbert pushed lebron outta Cleveland
@alec__rivera86204 жыл бұрын
Nah San Antonio did
@slimshady50884 жыл бұрын
HpK Popz right joining 73-9 team weakest move in nba history
@erikmerced63294 жыл бұрын
@@slimshady5088 LBJ to Wade County was what prompted KD to move to GSW. Did you forget who taught LeBron how to win? Lol shout out to D Wade
@michaelkirschner60093 ай бұрын
@@erikmerced6329 joining a 47-35 team is not the same thing as KD single handidly ruining the NBA by joining a 73-9 team that he purposely blew a 3-1 lead in the wcf.
@losstdani7 жыл бұрын
We missed you Stephen A, so glad you're back 😄❤️
@talal-fc9cu7 жыл бұрын
"THAT IS BLASTPHIMOUS" my favorite quote ever
@idklol41976 жыл бұрын
I felt the spittle fly from my phone screen onto my arm after that pronunciation of blasphemy
@taehardin23906 жыл бұрын
11 Months Later Kd vs Lebrone 4-0 Sweep🏆😎 Life is Weird .....
@nemiahbaca36465 жыл бұрын
Definitely cause he did it all on his own
@tedgunn69774 жыл бұрын
Tae Hardin 8-1 against Lebron in both the 2017 and 2018 finals lol but hold on time for excuses for the media and Bronsexuals
@johhythompson79834 жыл бұрын
@@tedgunn6977 Kd record against LeBron before he joined GS (5-17) 🤡
@michaelkirschner60093 ай бұрын
@@tedgunn6977if KD didn't join GSW you would've never said KD owns lbj
@annieadderall24314 жыл бұрын
now IMAGINE lebron joining golden state 🤯
@kingwillie2067 жыл бұрын
MJ is the GOAT, period. All of this stat talk in nonsense. GTFO! MJ averaged 35+ppg one season when the league had dominant big men clogging up the lanes you clowns. They were hand checking, shit talking, fighting, etc. and the defense was so intense you were lucky to see a finals game where both teams scored over 85 pts. His footwork was better, FT% in clutch situations was better, clutch shots in playoff games, 1v1 pure scoring was better, coaching on the floor was better, 1v1 defense was better, and he had a mindset that was so insane he would rather die than lose a single game. MJ's team mates fear him. Lebron is a phenomenal player, but better than MJ? I don't think so.
@ball63192 жыл бұрын
James Harden is thr GOAT noob lmai
@douglascrudup89026 жыл бұрын
Will Cain was right two ways
@geraldmcwilliams24607 жыл бұрын
Now everybody wants to wake up. He is not better than jordan
@SmoovyNovaFan4 жыл бұрын
Gerald McWilliams Jordan didn't have to face a team full of All-Stars and 2 former MVPs at the same time
@ajmulenga25324 жыл бұрын
@Rico Sebastiani You forget that Jordan had to play the 80s Celtics AND Bad Boy Pistons in b2b postseasons?
@SmoovyNovaFan4 жыл бұрын
A.J Mulenga did that team have 4 All-Stars and 2 former MVPs and the 2 highest scorers from the previous season and the 2 best shooters in the history of the league? also that was in the 80s before the dynasty
@ajmulenga25324 жыл бұрын
@Rico Sebastiani Lmao you just exposed yourself as a casual. Boston won 3/5 chips in 80s and swept Jordan and the Bulls during the ‘85 and ‘86 seasons you fool. That Celtics team had one of the greatest front courts of all time too ( Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, and Robert Parish). All that sounds like a dynasty by today’s standards. And the Pistons literally beat up on Jordan every time he touched the ball and were the only team that stopped him from getting to the finals 3 years in a row. So you still tryna tell me Jordan didn’t play some of the greatest teams ever?
@N8veJay4 жыл бұрын
A.J Mulenga yeah but that was in his younger days when Jordan didn’t have no teammates either... Lebron is dealing with this during his prime years
@temuphalgunreddy4344 жыл бұрын
Max - 6 times 5 is 30 Will cain - 5 times 6 is 30 Stephen a smith- heres why u are wrong 5 times 5 is 25 .
@ahmedjawadrashid6667 жыл бұрын
I'm telling you this new guy is the next Skip Bayless
@MyNameJiff7 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Jawad Rashid nah that award would go to Colin cowherd.
@XXSteel7 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Jawad Rashid no, he's way more knowledgeable than skip
@taylorjackson14587 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Jawad Rashid I HATE HIM
@QuantumQuills7 жыл бұрын
Single-Handedly, wtf is this dude talking about, he has 3 more all-stars and one of them is the best shooter in the world right now, and all I see in this show is Stephen A. Smith talking like it is, the dude on the right worships LeBron and the dude in the middle is in love with KD
@vicboss36844 жыл бұрын
"Single handedly"🤔🤨curry,klay,green,iguadola😆😂. BS. Y'all know you need double talent or triple to beat lebron and that's what they got, otherwise they'd lose.
@poncearnel29504 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha but lbj has irving,love and smith how about that?hahahahahaha lbj is not only the player of cavs so stop crying imao....
@murkyhyperion3574 жыл бұрын
Ponce Arnel love sorry jr sorry
@aaronbaggett28184 жыл бұрын
@@poncearnel2950 yes lbj did have irving,love and smith but kd had curry,klay and green so they had the 2 best shooters and one of the top players in the NBA so that's an unfair comparison
@womensfacesarethedefinitio28063 жыл бұрын
2015 : 4-2 2017 : 4-1 2018 : 4-0 Cry
@graysonparker41983 жыл бұрын
Not if they beet them 4-1 and 4-0 Sweep Lol
@icecreaman20107 жыл бұрын
KD time is now. LB's time has pasted. it's no big deal as they both will go down as great and successful players. People this is basketball, where not saving lives here. Basketball will not get you into heaven. People don't put to much into it. There getting there's regardless.
@ztlabraptor2116 жыл бұрын
icecreaman2010 KD wont have a time. Bron is better rn and soon Giannis will surpass KD
@wilelmore6 жыл бұрын
icecreaman2010( Pasted)😂😂😂
@johnnyjohnny5276 жыл бұрын
Josh LMFAAOOO OH SHIT earlier in another comment I said when Lebron leaves then Kevin Durant time will come but I forgot all about Giannis
@WrapperOfflineFan2046 жыл бұрын
LMAO he just had a triple double against the best team in the league.... You don't know shit
@mackinshizzaveli42026 жыл бұрын
As long as Giannis is in Milwaukee he will never have a time.
@dre-p30587 жыл бұрын
see. they can make excuses for LeBron against the finals loses to spurs and warriors. but that wouldn't fly In jordan era. he beat the utah jazz in finals while playing with the flu. when his teammates were tired and outplayed by Stockton and Malone. he took control and singlehandedly carried the team on his back the same way curry did before the whole team and bench became stars. LeBron always has excuses and excuses made for him by others whenever he loses. LeBron doesn't carry a team on his back to win. if the team don't play well he will just statpack and give up
@m.davinci92857 жыл бұрын
Nate Jewels thank you somebody finally said it he's a stat stuffer that's all he care about cuz he know he can't win a championships like mj.... like I tell LeBron James fans when they bring up him losing to the Spurs early in his career if you're good enough to make it to the finals you good enough to Win It no excuses unless you're hurt and you can't play
@urdone76596 жыл бұрын
Nate Jewels agreed
@camdonking19196 жыл бұрын
He's very similar to how Shaq played when he was in LA. He was so concerned with his numbers, he wasn't aware of how his play affected his teammates
@lyricssong71514 жыл бұрын
Exactly stuffing his stata
@hume12345617 жыл бұрын
Stephen A's passion is infectious. I can see Max being more expressive with his own love of the game. Although when Stephen A agrees with Max from the outset, you know Max' argument was bulletproof.
@Jayballinallday6 жыл бұрын
LeBron gave up
@SmayesFamChan7 жыл бұрын
It DID NOT TAKE KD to go to the GSW to beat the CAVS!!! GSW damn near swept the CAVS that year and would’ve won 4-1! I’m so sick of people acting as if it didn’t take the perfect storm cloud to float over the GSW in order LeBron to get that Chip! Ask yourselves, did LeBron beat a healthy GSW team in the finals that year? There you have it, NO!
@michaelkirschner60093 ай бұрын
If gsw lost because of x y and z then why did you beg KD to join GSW
@smoothhoopinal7 жыл бұрын
" single-handedly?" That's an insult to the Golden State Warriors. They owned KD in the playoffs. He just joined them
@kenneth1win7 жыл бұрын
Lebron losing to kd won't really damage his legacy cuz he's playing a better team. The times he lost in miami ruined his legacy because most of the time he was the favorite and he couldn't close the deal.
@adu116 жыл бұрын
Uhh, he split his finals appearances while in Miami. Also his team was favorite twice including the Mavs loss so that means he also won when he was the underdog. Your entire statement in false
@justthisguy19486 жыл бұрын
adu11 he was def favoured every time he was in the finals the okc was probably only time it was even close
@adu116 жыл бұрын
He def wasn't. Miami wasn't favored against the spurs in his last finals
@woodimoddy79676 жыл бұрын
Irony for LeBron is got to be so crushing at this point you went to Miami to build a team that would crush all other teams and went back to Cleveland only to find out that golden state was putting together a team that is more dominant than any other team has been at the last 10 years
@yoyoh77 жыл бұрын
If MJ in his prime replaced LeBron in that series, the results would have been the same.
@Dlo20187 жыл бұрын
lebron is ruining lebron's legacy
@rickruler43126 жыл бұрын
I been said Lebron has NO finesse.......he charges to the rim every time. I rather see finesse mixed with athleticism.
@Jay-dn2pg4 жыл бұрын
Rick Ruler No finesse and still great, so stop it.
@Superfly3694 жыл бұрын
Jay Money but when it’s time to close he doesn’t have a real go to move . He closes against the weaker conference . But against the highest level of competition he doesn’t close
@Jay-dn2pg4 жыл бұрын
@@Superfly369 I definitely agree.
@swervoo91974 жыл бұрын
@@Superfly369 What are u talking about so now the West is trash when Lebron goes to the west 🤦♂️
@Superfly3694 жыл бұрын
King James did I say that ?
@wajutiem086 жыл бұрын
Actually GSW and KEVIN DURANT needed each other to beat LEBRON JAMES. He had proven he could beat them both. And so they had to join forces.
@RoyaltyGotHits7 жыл бұрын
MJ never played a team with 2 MVPs and 4 all stars and if he did, he'd get swept too because he's just one man. So if Lebron can't overcome this obstacle it doesn't take him out the GOAT conversation because the GOAT himself has never had an obstacle as tough as this one. When MJ went to the finals he never was the underdog. Lebron has been the underdog 6 times out of his 8 finals appearances. When MJ went to the finals he was supposed to win and expected to win. Lebron isn't supposed to win this series against 2 MVPs and 4 all stars. That's why I give Lebron a pass for all his finals losses. He did all he could and played great in every series he lost except the one vs Dallas.
@ranholic50277 жыл бұрын
Hes not undrrdog becuz hes just that great in regular season and playoffs lol.. u just degrading mj for his accomplishment.... Then i can say that lebron has an easy way to finals than jordan did in their career lol... And dont give a free pass to lebrons loses if u never give pass to jordans domination and greatness to his era. And btw ur god lebron is #3-5 lol so cry more and pray that lebron will join gsw lmao.. and ps lebron lose to 2011 dalls with old dirk lmao i guess u will just give him a free pass haha
@RoyaltyGotHits7 жыл бұрын
Ran Holic You're an idiot
@geistov70757 жыл бұрын
lebron lost to dallas and the spurs and has lost 5 finals. Mj beat the malone stockton duo and never lost a single finals. Not even comparable
@ranholic50277 жыл бұрын
TooN hey youre an idiot too lmaoo... #3-5GOAT
@RoyaltyGotHits7 жыл бұрын
Ran Holic You do realize that Finals record isn't anything more than that right? LeBron is only responsible for one of his Finals losses and that's the one against Dallas. He didn't show up that year. But if you look at all his Final's stats, he's over performed in every series besides that one. The only reason he didn't win was because he played against a better team, or his teammates were a no show. How can u blame his loss in 2015 on him? He brought that series to 6 games by himself. How can u blame his most recent loss on him? He averaged a triple double against a super team. How can u blame the first loss against the Spurs on him? The only other people on his team averaging over 10 pts that season were Mo Williams and Daniel Gibson. And then the other loss against the Spurs D Wade just went cold until game 4 and by that time it was too late. They were already down 2-1 and the Spurs were playing at home the next game. LeBron is the GOAT. MJ is only 6-0 in the finals because he always had the better team. He was never the underdog, unlike LeBron. The Jazz were good competition but everybody bet on the Bulls. All of LeBron's stats are better besides pts and that's only a 2 pt difference. I'm talking about the playoffs as well.
@kob17586 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say ‘singlehandedly’. He does have 3 other all stars on his team
@poppasmurf36702 жыл бұрын
Funny how nobody mentions these finals anymore😂😂😂. They only mention 2015 for curry and 2016 for the comeback.
@wavyamar7 жыл бұрын
Lebron can never be compared to MJ for a thousand reasons. Running away to Miami let alone the amount of losses in the finals
@deathcorp20767 жыл бұрын
and thats why ur comment has 4 likes
@idkidk61647 жыл бұрын
Rafael Mourinha It’s true though.
@wavyamar7 жыл бұрын
Rafael Mourinha people don't like hearing the truth
@lamnhaychanthavee9967 жыл бұрын
Is moving back to Cleveland a bad thing I think it was better. Look at Cleveland land there one of the best teams in the league right now
@gabbylane82927 жыл бұрын
Rafael Mourinha Jerry Rice best athlete don't be stupid. LeBron isn't even the best in stats. Jerry rice absolutely destroys the next runner up to him In stats . Typical LeBron fan just running his mouth looking dumb.
@tabletoadmusic29206 жыл бұрын
Durant ruined the Legacy again with a Sweep 4-0
@antoniomontgomery13496 жыл бұрын
Wow exactly 1yr from jun 9th 2017.. Its different now
@jonathoncarranza44147 жыл бұрын
lebron is the reason they have jobs, he retires this show retires!
@bcm89847 жыл бұрын
Jonathon Carranza na they'd still have the Cowboys 😂
@andrewpowell33957 жыл бұрын
3 for 8 in finals appearances straight garbage get outta here being 2nd best all time smdh
@ben1ben2ben16 жыл бұрын
Would it be better if he just didn't make the finals the other 5 times and was a perfect 3 for 3? Kareem is obviously the second best player ever, but Lebron has a STRONG case for number 3
@andrewpowell33956 жыл бұрын
ben1ben2ben1 I really think yeah strong case for number 3 but I'd go MJ Kareem Magic or LeBron I feel like we talk about LeBron so much like he was the first 6'8-6'9 Floor general but Magic was doing that 20 so years before him and I feel you could go either or but no way he's over MJ or Kareem and Magic LeBron Wilt Bill Russell and Bird and Kobe all have strong arguments for that no.3 spot
@ben1ben2ben16 жыл бұрын
I see no argument for Kobe at #3 TBH
@blazedoutlaw66336 жыл бұрын
Kobe not a top 5.
@efisgpr6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Powell Should be 2-7 (thanks Ray Allen) Or... Take that Miami bitch move ring chasing away & he is 1-4 ...very close to 0-5 (Thanks, Adam Silver).
@EvanNagao6 жыл бұрын
stephen a smith would make a good preecher
@Julian-xp4ub7 жыл бұрын
Lmao you can tell between Will and Max that they fighting for that spot on First Take next year, niggas on that KD vs Lebron rivalry
@iiNeVeRCluTcH7 жыл бұрын
Julian Pottenger will is a dumbass
@zylzyl38236 жыл бұрын
Since back with the OKC , KD has proven to be the BEST in the NBA , And that means above LeBroom
@Superfly3694 жыл бұрын
zyl zyl this man was never better then Lebron
@julionero6380 Жыл бұрын
Someone 2023?
@AdrianRodriguez-hz9cx7 жыл бұрын
Lmao yall talking bout bron and KD yall forgot about Kobe ?
@gabbylane82927 жыл бұрын
Adrian Rodriguez Is that the guy that takes 1000 shots a game and gets 30?
@AdrianRodriguez-hz9cx7 жыл бұрын
Gabby Lane Lol you are pretty much described Russel Westbrook and he just won MVP if they dont take the shots who will ? Those role players cant handle shooting alot like Kobe
@zjuan87 жыл бұрын
Adrian Rodriguez dude was a shooting guard. Yeah he’s gonna shoot but homie sometimes went overboard with all the shooting.
@jaysontatum017 жыл бұрын
Kobe isnt even the best laker
@almadeunrebel6 жыл бұрын
We forgot about him when he retired, move on.
@etherkingvon12767 жыл бұрын
Thank you KD
@kevinzack84456 жыл бұрын
He "single handedly" joined the greatest team of all time in order to get a ring. He couldn't touch LeBron when he was in OKC....... And LeBron outplayed him in the series.
@AnthonyWilliams-wd7xq6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stephen A Smith for putting everything in check
@ianwilson44837 жыл бұрын
KD is a LEGEND.
@wilelmore6 жыл бұрын
Ian Wilson how the fuck?🤔🤔🤔
@WrapperOfflineFan2046 жыл бұрын
Legendary trash lol
@DeeSeeEnvyy6 жыл бұрын
PUSSY* can’t win without joining the hype train
@blazedoutlaw66336 жыл бұрын
Lmao no he is not. Legends are competitors, KD is nothing close to that and he knows it.
@pp3k3jamail6 жыл бұрын
Ian Wilson lol
@ranierholmes474 жыл бұрын
well this aged well
@e-mann7896 жыл бұрын
When you can go undefeated in the finals... Come let me know.. Jordan is the best
@kevinreso18067 жыл бұрын
that is BLASPHOEMUEES
@henrikntrl6 жыл бұрын
40k points will do it. Mark my words.
@ShinAkakage7 жыл бұрын
Dude must be drinking. Lebron averaged a 30pt triple double in the finals. To say he didn't get his in these playoffs is absolutely absurd. I like Stephen A. but he's tripping here. The Warriors had more ammo/weapons this year plain and simple. They were a lock for the finals before KD joined them. With him added to that team was just the nail in the coffin. Too many great consistent perimeter shooters. The cavs have streaky shooters (JR Smith and Kyle Korver). We need to get some more fire power to battle this stacked warriors team. Another consistent scoring threat that can create his own plays and the series could have been different.
@carniel50577 жыл бұрын
The stats was during garbage time once the game was already decided.
@christopherpatrick35567 жыл бұрын
The cavs already have fire power. They just need to utilize it better.
@urdone76596 жыл бұрын
ShinAkakage his stats came In when the game was already decided lol
@nikki2beatiful7 жыл бұрын
yall all got something to say bout kd but like ma dukes said...First of all its a job a career.. if u had the chance to move up in your job and work with the best in your career field would you stay complacent and stay on the lower level or move up and play with the big boys.. ill wait.. thats why yall got something to say cause if yall moved up with the big leagues at your job u wouldn't even have time to be on here..
@alessandrot997 жыл бұрын
the truth yo imma couple months late but preach. For us its fandom... for these guys its a job.
@calvingowdy12347 жыл бұрын
the truth that is a bunch of bullshit her son is a fuckin snake he hopped on da bandwagon fuck dat job shit he just pussy asf
@roberto32436 жыл бұрын
This isnt a debate, this is basically an argument.
@ugithdahanayaka56167 жыл бұрын
That is blasphemous!
@jennifermiller57027 жыл бұрын
KOBE> LEBRON
@ben1ben2ben16 жыл бұрын
NO ONE who is not bias actually thinks that
@conorhouston696 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Miller please stop
@290TheEmpireRecords6 жыл бұрын
kobe > le3-6mafia
@stephens23016 жыл бұрын
truth
@290TheEmpireRecords6 жыл бұрын
never got swept in finals twice...81 points...9 time FIRST team DEFENSE...5 time champ
@cookedude7 жыл бұрын
stephen a smith has turned into skip bayless
@pedrovelasquez51217 жыл бұрын
Stephen a Smith is turning into skip bayless..
@aaronrampersad78067 жыл бұрын
i wouldnt be surprised if the cavs win in 7
@albundy83477 жыл бұрын
Aaron Rampersad yes you would
@Kevin-dr9ov6 жыл бұрын
😂
@kendallmallett96947 жыл бұрын
Yeah single Handedly alright , I forgot about Curry , Klay & Draymomd. But they have nothing to do with that.
@Chris560767 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why Lebron haven't been posting up in this series. It's not like Durant can't be back down. Or even Iggy. Maybe Lebron scared he would miss his fadeaway shots
@jareljones39117 жыл бұрын
Chris56076 Durant is too long
@imbubbymom7 жыл бұрын
He doesn't have a reliable post up game. Really it's that simple.
@Walks81057 жыл бұрын
Allan Goco don't know why no one has mentioned that. Yes, the man is huge and heavy, but that doesn't automatically make him a threat in the post. His post up game is pretty nonexistent. Just a little drop step or contested post fade here and there.
@goatdezsi35277 жыл бұрын
kd is my favourite after Paul pierce.. forever
@KrazieSevin7 жыл бұрын
but after Paul Pierce though....fuck p-squared (that's his nickname before Shaq gave him the nickname The Truth)
@Idiotsincarshere6 жыл бұрын
KD is a snake. I can't respect a man that joins his competition and best team in the NBA just so he can win titles. Worst move I've ever seen.
@TyBrezzy116 жыл бұрын
@intelligent investor so you rather he stay a loser in okc? LMAO
@Idiotsincarshere6 жыл бұрын
YT_Tymadman999 I would’ve been fine with him going to any other team than the warriors. He made a bitch move. True snake. Nobody does that. And he literally ruined the nba. If u are fine with that then I can’t respect you either. Btw they were 48-34 without him this year so it’s not like they are trash
@TyBrezzy116 жыл бұрын
@intelligent investor 1- he did not ruin the nba. there are plenty of superteams in the nba Warriors Twolves Rockets Cleveland Spurs(technically) 76ers Celtics. 2- Thunder were ass and proved how overrated Westbrick and Melo are. three superstars couldnt beat JAZZ LMMAO 3-idc
@kiaranrios32706 жыл бұрын
I think it’s time to have this conversation again.
@clivelowell42736 жыл бұрын
Lebron is still the best player in the league, KD can’t compare on how he impacts a team. Also, Jordan wouldn’t have beat these warriors lmao
@8hype4 жыл бұрын
LeBron wouldn't beat the Celtics or the Pistons lmao
@edgarbrito50147 жыл бұрын
I can give 100 reason why lebum is wack in last 3 minutes of big games
@lyricssong71514 жыл бұрын
Can you give them to me so I can add them into my arguments
@GarrettYT236 жыл бұрын
Enough said
@juanalmeida31226 жыл бұрын
As great as Michael Jordan? You must be smoking pot! Lebron is not even in the first 5 greatest players.
@OhManItsMadan6 жыл бұрын
Juan Almeida he’s better
@TropicaIJay6 жыл бұрын
@Nathaniel's Phone couldn't agree with you more ny friend
@nataliegayle51606 жыл бұрын
Juan Almeida are you smoking LeBron James is a top 5 player all time are you dumb
@juanalmeida31226 жыл бұрын
Dumb? You must be talking about yourself. Lebron is not even close! Lebron is atrocious. Definitely not in the top 10.
@juanalmeida31226 жыл бұрын
No way! It's MJ, Kareem, Magic Johnson, Wilt Chamberlain and Kobe Bryant.
@MrAnonymous6507 жыл бұрын
nah... skill wise, LBJ is better than MJ TBH... but when the game matters abd the game is on the line, MJ just turns into a Basketball God that no 1 can ever duplicate.. That's why he is the GOAT..
@TranquilAura777 жыл бұрын
i agree with you 75 percent but arguably MJ is better skill wise, LeBron to me is the better player because hes shown that he can rival mjs skills but also be that floor general like a cp3 or a stockton. But there is a reason why Mjs the goat ahaha and this is coming from a LeBron fan who i think is the second greatest of all time
@urdone76596 жыл бұрын
Rolando Fortson Are you high? Micheal is WAYYYY more talented than Lehelp. LeBron users his body to score while Kobe and MJ shoot crazy fadeaways off the dribble and they both clutch as hell. And LeBron 3-5 finals lol
@MrAnonymous6506 жыл бұрын
ok ok,, my bad,, what i really mean was LBJ is just bigger and probably faster and stronger but not tougher mentally and physically.. LeBron has never played through an injury and never had serious injuries coz he often played it safe...
@ben1ben2ben16 жыл бұрын
What the fuck? Lebron has some PHYSICAL gifts on Jordan, but Jordan is the most skilled player ever. Even physically, Jordan was faster, could jump higher and was more explosive. Lebron is bigger stronger which is impressive given how fast he also is
@ben1ben2ben16 жыл бұрын
Stavros Rossos Lebron choking all the time is kinda a huge myth. He is not Jordan, but he has some of the greatest finals numbers ever and elimination games. He also has made only ONE less game winning or tying shot then Jordan in the playoffs
@brandoncalero60724 жыл бұрын
Will Cain has many points! KD BIG TIME
@supario85296 жыл бұрын
Lebron ruined his own legacy by not doing like Jordan and kicking bums off his team.... Phil made the Bulls, LeBron made the Cavs.... LeBron still better than Durant because Lebron beat the Warriors.... Durant couldn't, he had to join them😋😋😋
@supario85296 жыл бұрын
Malik Fortune a loss is a loss and look what LeBron did with Delavadova and Mozgov .... and a 3 to 1 lead compared to a 1 to 3 deficit.... hmmm?🤔
@coolhands44446 жыл бұрын
Malik Fortune what? Warriors had the same roster in 2015 that they had in their 73-9 season. Warriors were still a 60+ win team lol
@paulamil48876 жыл бұрын
Supa Rio85 lebron how bout irving beat the warriors u jerk
@teresawicks98596 жыл бұрын
GREAT POINT!!!
@richsbkay6 жыл бұрын
3-6 in finals smh
@brandonlurenzo4117 жыл бұрын
Kg paul pierce and ray Allen started that championship hopping shit
@MrBarborosa7 жыл бұрын
Kd has singlehandedly destroyed his own legacy. He can't touch LeBron
@pjbrien32766 жыл бұрын
KD has it so much easier with all the help from Curry, THompson, others. He could "not beat them so join them' is the ultimate wimp move I ever saw to me not the greatest player.
@The-Heart-Will-Testify6 жыл бұрын
Atleast thunders didn't get swept...with out durant cavs would of won last 3 finals...
@allday10476 жыл бұрын
*yawn
@dollazandsense6 жыл бұрын
Andre Dennis no lebron join wade n the shitty heat n then bosh joined they both joined the same year n the rest of that team was garbage then ray allen joined a old ray allem that only came in for like 20mins a game the team he joined was garbage it wasnt nothing like the warriors teams so stp the bullshit
@timothygeorge51066 жыл бұрын
Pj Brien A free agent can join whatever team he wants to join. No player has to satisfy or get permission from fans before joining a team. Do u really think that KD gives a fuck what u think? Most of the KD haters are Lebron worshippers and would have absolutely nothing to say if KD had gone to Cleveland. Lebron left Cleveland and went to Miami. That's what players do. Get over it.
@andredennis7956 жыл бұрын
Smh stop making excuse
@ZionCHarper2k234 жыл бұрын
yk what, the story of the 2017 finals was, cavs couldn't play any defense to save their lives, including lebron
@jaliu7 жыл бұрын
The Cavs have had not one, not two, not three, but FOUR #1 picks. Meanwhile the warriors haven't had a single one. He handpicks all-stars to play with yet still complains every damn year. No player in the history of the NBA has had more help than he has and done less (and complained the most). He can't even stay on top of Boston and Toronto. The Superstars he does play with? Their performance plummets while his own stats get padded. Or they decide they don't want to play with him anymore and ask to be traded. Now after playing GM again for the Cavs and destroying the team he'll be out of there faster than their finals exit. Overrated. Goat my a$$.
@slimbiggins13647 жыл бұрын
jaliu exactly. Preach
@duanesteed5596 жыл бұрын
Let's see hmmm mj did not have to go to another team to win championship rings and trophy he stuck it out. Cry baby l.j. had to leave his home state to win championships not a good thing in my book