JJ Redick & Stephen A. DISAGREE on Kevin Durant getting ENOUGH credit as a leader 🍿 | First Take

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@justtwizzey2429
@justtwizzey2429 10 ай бұрын
The way JJ hates to hear Mad Dog talk is hilarious
@Kedvin7
@Kedvin7 10 ай бұрын
Coz he is just yapping in loud anger, idk how he is still working for ESPN. He would be a good fit for "First things First".
@thebest_everrrrrrrrrrrr
@thebest_everrrrrrrrrrrr 10 ай бұрын
it’s not hilarious - Lame Mutt is annoying AF
@kingo4361
@kingo4361 10 ай бұрын
@@Kedvin7 the irony
@WingmanZ22
@WingmanZ22 10 ай бұрын
Mad dog plays his role and I love it. His radio show isn't bad either
@jmachine27
@jmachine27 10 ай бұрын
@@Kedvin7 i thought he said he would retire if the Dbacks beat Philly. He's a jackoff
@stevieJ24
@stevieJ24 10 ай бұрын
Doggy is the ultimate Instigator and he doesn’t have to even say a word😂
@tigera6
@tigera6 10 ай бұрын
The guy just want to watches the world burned, a true maniac, lol.
@kam_12_
@kam_12_ 10 ай бұрын
his face kills me😂
@nsd_respect
@nsd_respect 10 ай бұрын
Pause.
@MrKeysjimmy
@MrKeysjimmy 10 ай бұрын
I love his smirk like he's up to no good 😂
@KatoTheKing
@KatoTheKing 10 ай бұрын
Facts!! And it’s hilarious to me 😂😂😂. But I hate when he speaks, ngl
@DavidBaggaShorts
@DavidBaggaShorts 10 ай бұрын
JJ back on first take for 2 days and is about to get max kellermaned. These are the 2 most intense days I’ve seen in a while, and I’m here for it 😂🍿
@KarloBlaze
@KarloBlaze 10 ай бұрын
I have to agree. I'm kinda worried for him, ngl 😅
@youNgn2k
@youNgn2k 10 ай бұрын
Lmao his face expresssions while SAS was speaking got me dying 😂
@Priddyboiicrls
@Priddyboiicrls 10 ай бұрын
I swear yall only started riding for max kellerman as a way to diss stephen a, after max was fired from the show the ratings went up!!🤣
@tako4mvp719
@tako4mvp719 10 ай бұрын
@@Priddyboiicrlsliterally nobody liked max. Especially when he was trolling Steph but now he’s a martyr lol
@DavidBaggaShorts
@DavidBaggaShorts 10 ай бұрын
@@Priddyboiicrls I WANT IGUODALA! 😂
@basementflowisreal9727
@basementflowisreal9727 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A out here looking like he just left the Death Row Records Source magazine cover shoot back in the mid 90’s…😂😂😂
@lp1578
@lp1578 10 ай бұрын
He raided Suge Knight's closet 😂
@cliptomaniac2562
@cliptomaniac2562 10 ай бұрын
SAS doing his best Nino New Jack City impression.
@SatoGundo
@SatoGundo 10 ай бұрын
Lmfaooo 🤣🤣🤣
@hichembouali516
@hichembouali516 10 ай бұрын
bruhhh you had me rolling with this comment
@zairel.3711
@zairel.3711 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@bGzzzzz
@bGzzzzz 10 ай бұрын
When SAS tried to bring mad dog into the convo - the look on his face was like ‘I’m good just watching you guys bicker over nothing’ 😂
@aandk2594
@aandk2594 10 ай бұрын
JJ speaks like he takes everything personal. LOL.
@wordonthestreetpodcast5472
@wordonthestreetpodcast5472 10 ай бұрын
Facts😭😭😭 but fans would aay its sas rhats in his feeling, jj be ready to blow a gasket
@quagmir3
@quagmir3 10 ай бұрын
He also comes across as very condescending. He debates as if he's scolding a bunch of kids and he's smarter than everyone else.
@eliera6403
@eliera6403 10 ай бұрын
The fans let him ppl think stephen a is so much of a traitor that ppl feed jjs who when he does stuff like this that's why n it's annoying stephen a is right n jj doesn't want to be interrupted but loves to interrupt others like hold yo self accountable bro n listen for once Jesus
@ByGriPhone
@ByGriPhone 10 ай бұрын
Literally his only point is "I play in the NBA and you didn't, so that makes my point right"
@eliera6403
@eliera6403 10 ай бұрын
@@ByGriPhone factz like so wrong man he takes things too personal for no reason n hes contradicts himself that nobody sees about him get on doc about accountability but kd gets a pass if u not a player u get no pass with jj smh
@theresidentteacher2438
@theresidentteacher2438 10 ай бұрын
He's LITERALLY SAID, "Im NOT a Leader"...leave me alone and let me "Just Hoop". What does he expect?.
@wenlisman
@wenlisman 10 ай бұрын
You don't talk about his achievements, you do not talk about how all his former teammates seem to love him: you talk about one cherry picked quote. You haters are so pathetic.
@rudolphsmith6770
@rudolphsmith6770 10 ай бұрын
​@wenlisman huh?!? Nobody's hating they're responding to HIS quote about leadership. You can't have it both ways either. Either he cares about leadership or he doesn't. Whether people see him as one or not should be irrelevant to him. But it clearly isn't. He's always had rabbit ears. Choose a side care about it or don't.
@wordonthestreetpodcast5472
@wordonthestreetpodcast5472 10 ай бұрын
@@rudolphsmith6770😭😭😭 these fan boys be delusional. Bro didnt say one thing bad about kd all he did was state what kd said himself 🤷🏾‍♂️
@wordonthestreetpodcast5472
@wordonthestreetpodcast5472 10 ай бұрын
@@rudolphsmith6770 and facts no leader runs to the team that smacked you and make backup accounts to express how u feel about basketball 😭 kd not a leader and he was my favorite player. Kd defly that guy tho
@slavko7898
@slavko7898 10 ай бұрын
@@wenlismanbro he led two teams and we saw how okc ended and ask russel what he thinks about kd 😂 🧁 Brooklyn was even worse they played better once he left if only he was a leader and brought them out before
@kevinmokumobi9684
@kevinmokumobi9684 10 ай бұрын
The way Maddog smirks after he ends his takes 😅. He loves the hate 😂
@Jordyrugby
@Jordyrugby 10 ай бұрын
Gotta love it
@bobbytropo2314
@bobbytropo2314 10 ай бұрын
He's the best lmao
@100ovrbatmanbron7
@100ovrbatmanbron7 10 ай бұрын
he’s diabolical 😂
@jordanharris9352
@jordanharris9352 10 ай бұрын
I hate mad dog 🤣🤣 “it’s not exactly 60 minutes “ had me rolling 😭😭
@replicantona
@replicantona 10 ай бұрын
60 Minutes is neo liberal garbage truck juice nowadays, so it wasn't the zinger you and him tought it was.
@Shmitty2023
@Shmitty2023 10 ай бұрын
Mad dog is hilariou, unless u take him serious lol
@TheMCJ2011
@TheMCJ2011 10 ай бұрын
No lie cause mad dog funny asf sometimes 🤣🤣🤣
@noneyabizz3403
@noneyabizz3403 10 ай бұрын
Yeah whatever but the fact he still has a job at ESPN and mark jackson and JVG do not is disgusting
@godssonraymond8877
@godssonraymond8877 10 ай бұрын
lol that was dope lol 😅
@ijayrizzy3116
@ijayrizzy3116 10 ай бұрын
SAS: “I am a black man” JJ: “Don’t give me your track record”😂
@jayceleague279
@jayceleague279 10 ай бұрын
What he never said that this is reaching
@DavidLee-vp3nr
@DavidLee-vp3nr 10 ай бұрын
@@jayceleague279 nahhh he did lol stephen a "i'm a black man" JJ " you're barely brown" lmao
@jwills2075
@jwills2075 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@DavidLee-vp3nr😂😂😂😂
@johnluke9036
@johnluke9036 10 ай бұрын
Stephen a smith is a legend JJ was trash as a player so his opinion don’t matter more than Stephen a’s lol
@yeatdagoat173
@yeatdagoat173 10 ай бұрын
lmao he didn't say that hahaha
@Itz_Crawfish
@Itz_Crawfish 10 ай бұрын
Man said he promised his wife he wouldn't yell. Im dead 😂😂😂😂
@matthewsdonnelly
@matthewsdonnelly 10 ай бұрын
You can tell when Stephen A is bothered by someone because he immediately comes after their personal life 😂😂😂
@Itz_Crawfish
@Itz_Crawfish 10 ай бұрын
@@matthewsdonnelly factssss lol
@C.Robinson-u1s
@C.Robinson-u1s 10 ай бұрын
JJ lives in BK and she wants him to keep that check and job lol
@devinrodriguez7355
@devinrodriguez7355 10 ай бұрын
JJ been back two days & been on Hots, best two days of First take for me in months 💀😭
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 10 ай бұрын
Right😂
@johnluke9036
@johnluke9036 10 ай бұрын
Definitely not better than Shannon tho that’s facts
@Gamechanger100vibe
@Gamechanger100vibe 10 ай бұрын
@@johnluke9036 Shannon and SAS be agreeing too much lol
@johnluke9036
@johnluke9036 10 ай бұрын
@@Gamechanger100vibe I think is just because Shannon is thankful that SAS gave him a shot on first take he don’t wanna ruin it 😂😂
@wordmistress8920
@wordmistress8920 10 ай бұрын
@johnluke9036 Stephen A said himself that First Take bosses wanted Shannon Sharpe. Stephen A only appeared with him on camera welcoming him to the show. He did not make the decision to bring Shannon over. But since Katt Williams went viral on Club Shay Shay, Stephen A has been saying that he’s the reason Shannon is on First Take.
@thegantz87
@thegantz87 10 ай бұрын
JJ watched that Katt Williams interview over 100 times bruh lol
@Gatorfan_Cavon
@Gatorfan_Cavon 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@chiefmiyagi9802
@chiefmiyagi9802 10 ай бұрын
😭😭😭
@chrislankster7520
@chrislankster7520 10 ай бұрын
JJ always throws the “I played in the league” card, without saying “I played in the league” 😂
@brettt141
@brettt141 10 ай бұрын
only reason he has an audience.
@r.m.90
@r.m.90 10 ай бұрын
So did Smush Parker. Who cares.
@JohnDoe-uc6xk
@JohnDoe-uc6xk 10 ай бұрын
Cus he did it’s true nothing wrong with that
@AlmightyBosstop
@AlmightyBosstop 10 ай бұрын
​@@brettt141cos a hooper and a non-hooper have different bird views to the game. That's just it
@johnluke9036
@johnluke9036 10 ай бұрын
Exactly and the thing is that he was trash if it was Kobe or bron or MJ speaking he would actually back that statement up but Jj lol cmon man
@_callme.sir_
@_callme.sir_ 10 ай бұрын
Why ain’t nobody talking about Mad Dog looking like a villain 😈😂
@fortis17
@fortis17 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@harlemcaron9094
@harlemcaron9094 10 ай бұрын
He can play joker in batman
@757-David
@757-David 10 ай бұрын
Mad Dogs expressions while others argue is the best 💀
@Acethemosthigh
@Acethemosthigh 10 ай бұрын
Michael scott with a riddler vibe
@THEREALMADBUCKSZHITSEAKERBOYZ
@THEREALMADBUCKSZHITSEAKERBOYZ 10 ай бұрын
He look like the joker 😂😂😂😂😂😅😅 @maddog
@BryanSmith-it6tg
@BryanSmith-it6tg 10 ай бұрын
Oh boy. JJ’s days are numbered
@KingKCA
@KingKCA 10 ай бұрын
They said that last year. Stephen A knows what he’s doing
@jeter274
@jeter274 10 ай бұрын
I hope they are. He is bias and protects the players, no matter the situation
@xlj12345678901
@xlj12345678901 10 ай бұрын
@@jeter274bc he knows what’s what and what’s not unlike the journalist who can only speculate
@r.m.90
@r.m.90 10 ай бұрын
Good.
@User-o2i8b
@User-o2i8b 10 ай бұрын
Yea bro bc the players are supposed to live their lives for their fans and not themselves, open yo eyes kid @@jeter274
@semaj1077
@semaj1077 10 ай бұрын
SA was right. Reddick should be president of the players association. He only sees things from there pov
@felixalfaro3119
@felixalfaro3119 10 ай бұрын
Stephan a started the show off by complaining about what Durant does even tho he does the same stuff to get clicks lol 😂
@DontCallmeLadale
@DontCallmeLadale 10 ай бұрын
JJ is right . The best player does not need to be the leader
@eliera6403
@eliera6403 10 ай бұрын
​@DontCallmeLadale maybe not but that don't mean kd should get the credit of a leader when he's not one n doesn't want to be one
@Thexlr8man3
@Thexlr8man3 10 ай бұрын
Facts@@DontCallmeLadale
@CCEkeke
@CCEkeke 10 ай бұрын
@@DontCallmeLadale Not true. As the best player when you win, you get all the credit. When you fail, the blame is always on you.
@keithkilgore8993
@keithkilgore8993 10 ай бұрын
Mad Dog's smirk Is really the best part of the video hahahaha
@petermaximoff4635
@petermaximoff4635 10 ай бұрын
"JJ Redick & Stephen A. disagree" is a instant click for me 😂
@HBZTwistaOk
@HBZTwistaOk 10 ай бұрын
No, seriously I love when I come across a new one I haven’t seen 😂 not sure if they’re really passionate or if they dislike each other 😂
@corey6853
@corey6853 10 ай бұрын
JJ is the complete opposite of Dan Orlovsky, Dan gets steamrolled by SAS and Shannon when it comes to football topics...JJ looks to roll over SAS whenever he can.
@jdtii7069
@jdtii7069 10 ай бұрын
But not this segment
@reindalehill7713
@reindalehill7713 10 ай бұрын
9 times outta 10 JJ gets rolled. He's pathetic at best. Nowhere on Stephen As level
@j.osoulwave1531
@j.osoulwave1531 10 ай бұрын
Right but this one I think they both made plenty of sense and good points
@JQUOIS
@JQUOIS 10 ай бұрын
probably because he's a student of the game as opposed to stephen a, who has an imeasurably long history of blantanly incorrect takes, lies, and personal attacks on players?
@SankofaNYC
@SankofaNYC 10 ай бұрын
But he didn't here though
@leatherhoop
@leatherhoop 10 ай бұрын
Kevin Durant talked about how SAS hugs you up and then hits you with the critique right after and he did it again. “Great scorer, savant, blah blah blah, BUT” 😂😂
@dtd5626
@dtd5626 10 ай бұрын
kd just don't like hearing the truth SAS is not gonna kiss tail he still gave him his flowers but also spoke the truth
@leatherhoop
@leatherhoop 10 ай бұрын
@@dtd5626 truth?? That’s SAS’ OPINION, which he is entitled to. You can just state your opinion without first showering somebody with praise. It makes the praise come off disingenuous
@amorizz5579
@amorizz5579 10 ай бұрын
@@leatherhoop I'm not a big fan of Stephen A., but I don't have a problem with him both praising and criticizing. If it comes off as disingenuous that's also a valid opinion. For sports commentators, I think it's a lose/lose situation when you criticize someone, some people will only focus on the bad part regardless of anything positive you might have said. If you don't criticize, people will say you're being biased.
@Hexa1123
@Hexa1123 10 ай бұрын
I don’t agree with SAS but that is just a rhetorical technique. He is a journalist, after all
@leatherhoop
@leatherhoop 10 ай бұрын
@@amorizz5579 I don’t have a problem with criticism at all, I’m more saying that he doesn’t have to always have the same approach. It’s to a point that when he starts heaping praise on players then we already know he’s about to go in on them right after 😂
@user-qk4vl8lj4r
@user-qk4vl8lj4r 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A looking like he just came from canal street 😂😂
@carlito087
@carlito087 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@habavdekar
@habavdekar 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@legleg29
@legleg29 10 ай бұрын
Only New Yorkers know what you're talking about! This is the post of the day! 🤣🤣🤣
@Juntao1989
@Juntao1989 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 lmfao
@BulletAgario
@BulletAgario 10 ай бұрын
MadDawg’s smirk is killing me😂😂
@TIsnice3
@TIsnice3 10 ай бұрын
JJ is the only one who talks basketball with a realistic mindset
@Smallvillefreak
@Smallvillefreak 10 ай бұрын
JJ was quick to call out Doc for no accountability, but won’t even try to hold KD accountable for his lack of leadership.
@RellyRell-ud3iz
@RellyRell-ud3iz 10 ай бұрын
Fr he is so annoying
@pb7even
@pb7even 10 ай бұрын
What proves that KD isn’t a leader because he isn’t vocal, because he hasn’t won as the “bus driver” how do any of us know that KD isn’t a leader if we ain’t in the locker room day in and day out
@travisstrickland7270
@travisstrickland7270 10 ай бұрын
Well maybe you should hold Curry and Kawhi to the same accountability 😅. People pic and choose. Haters
@thubb326
@thubb326 10 ай бұрын
Please tell me how he's not a leader
@BingeART
@BingeART 10 ай бұрын
​@@thubb326lmao who kd? The mfer is not a leader
@jaysouthmusic8230
@jaysouthmusic8230 10 ай бұрын
The look on JJ’s face when mad dog is talking is like “aww man here we go” 😂
@diegohuerta6511
@diegohuerta6511 10 ай бұрын
I understand why doggy is a regular on this show, he’s such a great heel lol
@Jizzlepapi_OVO
@Jizzlepapi_OVO 10 ай бұрын
JJ gets so angry when someone disagrees with him 😂😂
@scottstevens129
@scottstevens129 10 ай бұрын
Ong
@bigshadowfocus7888
@bigshadowfocus7888 10 ай бұрын
It’s his white man entitlement reeking out
@MrSHarris918
@MrSHarris918 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A gets irritated when someone calls him on his BS
@BuuhBlocks
@BuuhBlocks 10 ай бұрын
you mean JJ gets mad when someone is obviously wrong.
@mscooldeadly
@mscooldeadly 10 ай бұрын
​@BuuhBlocks Nah, he's too one-sided when it comes to players
@auramsr
@auramsr 10 ай бұрын
I missed this…JJ and Stephen A going at it lmao. Too much brotherly love with Stephen A and Shannon we need the drama 😭
@louishernandez5003
@louishernandez5003 10 ай бұрын
Jj is just a cheerleader for this generations players.
@Mook05
@Mook05 10 ай бұрын
True. I like him on ESPN but he seldomly holds players accountable
@joeymanny
@joeymanny 10 ай бұрын
JJ is trash remember how he defenda ja morant gun show off
@LuckyStrike94_
@LuckyStrike94_ 10 ай бұрын
Mad dog just be sitting there smirking looking like Norman Osborn
@KingKidGoku32794
@KingKidGoku32794 10 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@j.l.howlett6843
@j.l.howlett6843 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@j314-q7i
@j314-q7i 10 ай бұрын
SAS spent his opening monolog talking about KD not educating the masses on basketball lol. KD literally has a podcast in which he talks basketball and gives his thoughts about the game, players and on topics in the news.
@gray_gogy
@gray_gogy 10 ай бұрын
He meant in terms of educating them about himself. If you believe you're a leader, educate the masses as to why they should believe you're a leader rather than just getting upset because people question your leadership. Tell them hey I do xyz. This that and the other. The default for a player in the NBA isn't that he's a leader until proven otherwise. You have to PROVE your leadership. KD hasn't proven it. We're not taking away from him. We're just not giving him praise that he hasn't earned. He's earned all the praise about being a great player. All time scorer. One of the best players of all time. And he's given that respect and credit all the time. He simply hasn't earned the right to be called a top tier leader.
@nbarealtalker
@nbarealtalker 10 ай бұрын
A couple years ago on Brooklyn didn’t KD literally say he’s not a leader and just wants to ball?
@DumbCaveMan
@DumbCaveMan 10 ай бұрын
YES, and then continued with Kyries narrative that they don’t need a coach they can coach the team themselves. Well which is it KD?
@mac4730
@mac4730 10 ай бұрын
JJ better start applying at FOX
@godssonraymond8877
@godssonraymond8877 10 ай бұрын
lol he better call up MAX lol 😆
@edwardpiss
@edwardpiss 10 ай бұрын
@@godssonraymond8877or skip 😂😂
@MrBLACKICE1980
@MrBLACKICE1980 10 ай бұрын
SA is spot on with this 💯
@leothelion2593
@leothelion2593 10 ай бұрын
Outside of his years in GSW, what has he done?
@KevyB.
@KevyB. 10 ай бұрын
That doesn't even count... for him and Golden State
@leothelion2593
@leothelion2593 10 ай бұрын
@@KevyB. it doesn’t count? Golden state has won a title before and after him. I’m simply asking what has he done outside of there
@ChryslerChristler
@ChryslerChristler 10 ай бұрын
11:42 Props to the production team knowing the build-up was great and sliding Mad Dog in the screen. Mad Dog sitting there like "Ohh boy this is where all the fun begins now, this is entertainment right there!" LOL
@ryanburd3140
@ryanburd3140 10 ай бұрын
I love JJ on ESPN he is blunt!
@esuvan
@esuvan 10 ай бұрын
Y’all should really watch the whole KD interview instead of 1 sound bite. There was way more context to the conversation.
@kingnovi9404
@kingnovi9404 10 ай бұрын
Na they rather criticize someone they don’t know. That’s envy at its finest
@StrawhatKage
@StrawhatKage 10 ай бұрын
@@kingnovi9404you acting like they haven’t followed his whole career 😂
@kingnovi9404
@kingnovi9404 10 ай бұрын
@@StrawhatKage they have and the started criticizing him the moment he stopped being who they wanted him to be. It’s funny because I never hear anyone say Tim Duncan wasn’t a leader although he has a personality similar to Durant. I’ve literally heard Stephen a praise another player for leading by example yet kd who has one of the greatest work ethic in sports history evident by his extremely high skill level is not a leader by example.
@kingnovi9404
@kingnovi9404 10 ай бұрын
@@StrawhatKage notice how they never say things like he’s been a model Citizen never been in trouble great ambassador of the game. All that stuff they say about a curry or LeBron. It’s all negative criticism when it comes to kd.
@Jl994-f5u
@Jl994-f5u 10 ай бұрын
​@kingnovi9404 I believe people get confused. If you have that personality, players have to see you as the leader. Not to mention Tim duncun had Gregg pop and players that seen him that way. That's similar to steph not kd. KD cant be compared to steph and tim duncan, find someone else to make your point because its not valid. Honestly the coach is the leader. But when you play as the best player, for the same team (long time), people consider the team yours like the face of the team, they may see you that way and fall in line. Of course I'm only speaking to players with the personality as kd "lead by example" (Lebron is different). We keep confusing best player as leaders. There should be a distinction. I don't believe kawi has ever been a leader of the team. I actually see pg as the leader, not kawi (even though kawi's the best player literally leading them to victory). Hope I made since....
@bksfinest9582
@bksfinest9582 10 ай бұрын
Why SAS dressed like he bout to do a death row album cover photo shoot 😆
@NinjaSpittingTruth
@NinjaSpittingTruth 10 ай бұрын
Aint nothing but a gangsta party party. Awww sh****t
@bksfinest9582
@bksfinest9582 10 ай бұрын
@@NinjaSpittingTruth 😂😂😂😂 I’m cryin
@devonmoody1460
@devonmoody1460 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂u stupid moe
@j.l.howlett6843
@j.l.howlett6843 10 ай бұрын
Lmaooooooo😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dwightyawg7781
@dwightyawg7781 9 ай бұрын
Probably cuz you copy & pasted the top comment
@mckricks1
@mckricks1 10 ай бұрын
I love KD but he put himself in a hole regarding this topic when he said a while back that he is not a leader, that he just wants to ball.
@cruisernatn3
@cruisernatn3 10 ай бұрын
Go read his whole quote back in 2017 he also said he leads by example
@mckricks1
@mckricks1 10 ай бұрын
@@cruisernatn3 Doesn't matter. He specifically said what I mentioned in my comment. You're not the one carrying the team to victory with that kind of attitude.
@sonikspeed19
@sonikspeed19 10 ай бұрын
@@cruisernatn3 Leading by example is the dumbest cop-out players give when they have nothing else to point to. If KD actually led by example, why wasn't Kyrie or Harden playing for the Nets while KD was out there putting up points and working. You mean to tell me he can't get his teammates to play or even to care about winning? That ain't a leader. KD is that worker who does his job very well, and then clocks out without a care in the world. A leader is invested. A leader sacrifices for the better of the team. A leader works hard and makes everyone else work hard.
@travismckenzie3326
@travismckenzie3326 10 ай бұрын
it's his job to make others play ball? I get your point but he can't control players not playing I'm sure he's voiced his opinion but ultimately that's up to them. And Lead by example is not a cop-out kawhi leads by example when he's not injured he's not vocal some people are just like that.@@sonikspeed19
@baller0724
@baller0724 10 ай бұрын
​@mckricks1 using an incomplete quote out of context. You must've went to the SAS/ESPN school of journalism
@gray_gogy
@gray_gogy 10 ай бұрын
SAS killed it at the end. Often JJ is on point in calling out bs. Which is important. And he called what he THOUGHT was bs this time as well. Which is good. But SAS was totally correct. We judge what we see, and KD's leadership didn't reach the level of LeBron, Magic, or Curry. He COULDN'T galvanize his players like the top tier leaders could. Leading by example is important which KD does in terms of putting in work, but that's only one component of it. All the other great leaders spared no effort in their work. But they were able to galvanize their players on TOP of that. KD doesn't get more respect as a leader because he hasn't EARNED that respect. As they say, respect is earned. We're not taking anything away from KD. But you need proof to ADD to someone's resume, and KD didn't provide that proof.
@RobertBallz
@RobertBallz 10 ай бұрын
KD has no leadership whatsoever. I mean where do I start.
@gray_gogy
@gray_gogy 10 ай бұрын
@@RobertBallz he doesn't have enough to be called a leader. He does have work ethic for sure which a leader needs. He has the skills and bball iq which a leader needs to command respect. But he doesn't have the charisma. The ability to command respect and obedience from his teammates. The ability to organize an offense and defense.
@ijayrizzy3116
@ijayrizzy3116 10 ай бұрын
JJ’s face when MadDog speaks is priceless. 😂
@CoachRJ334
@CoachRJ334 10 ай бұрын
SAS is correct ...Spot on onthis take
@topshotta2000
@topshotta2000 10 ай бұрын
Doggy made a point towards the end I think kd and russ should've sat down Trying to figure how they're were gonna win a title together at the of the day kd was the best player in okc
@BingeART
@BingeART 10 ай бұрын
​@@topshotta2000best player not a leader when I think of leader I don't think Kevin Durant.
@kingnovi9404
@kingnovi9404 10 ай бұрын
@@BingeARTdo you think about yourself?
@kevincampbell4708
@kevincampbell4708 10 ай бұрын
@@topshotta2000 What? Why didn't Paul George, LeBron, and Harden(Rockets) have to stay with Russ? They all left Russ in less than two seasons. LeBron could not wait to rid of him. Lol But for some reason the person who stayed with him for nearly a decade was obligated to stay.
@seaniveroni5579
@seaniveroni5579 10 ай бұрын
Paul didn't leave Russ and Russ left harden lol​@@kevincampbell4708
@JrOfficial1994
@JrOfficial1994 10 ай бұрын
Stephen a and jj redick is basketball debate GOLD
@goatjames328
@goatjames328 10 ай бұрын
What does Stephen a know about basketball?😂🤦🏽🤣
@tjones617
@tjones617 10 ай бұрын
​​@@goatjames328😂😂😂😂😂 nothing
@believe1335
@believe1335 10 ай бұрын
Wemby idolizes KD. He revolutionized the big man with guard like game. KD may not be an extrovert leader but he inspired guys like Wemby to play like he does now. That’s what leadership is all about. Being an inspiration
@kingnovi9404
@kingnovi9404 10 ай бұрын
And Joel embed. And Luka. And ant-man. Kd was voted the favorite player by college b-ball players like 5 years in a row. Notice ever 7 footer wants to play like kd now days
@thuphuong6180
@thuphuong6180 10 ай бұрын
they will never say that tho...u see how they disreegard all that info
@thebest_everrrrrrrrrrrr
@thebest_everrrrrrrrrrrr 10 ай бұрын
Wimpymama is overrated AF - only casuals buy into the hype that sports media glazes him with
@yungjeezy6049
@yungjeezy6049 10 ай бұрын
@@thuphuong6180u a girl fr?
@DADON99
@DADON99 10 ай бұрын
So we changing the standard of leadership to lift up KD?😂
@ericbrown7031
@ericbrown7031 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Molly's trying to end the segment was priceless. 😅😅
@NinjaSpittingTruth
@NinjaSpittingTruth 10 ай бұрын
Mad Dog is just missing sipping a cup of tea in this scene.
@corpyhogan4433
@corpyhogan4433 10 ай бұрын
I agree with JJ. Shows like first take have done irreparable damage to NBA discourse and how we view the game itself. Fans like drama and "storylines". That's why they push people like LeBron, Steph, and KD so much because they know people will flock to it every time regardless of how much they say they don't like it
@JordanLampkin-y6x
@JordanLampkin-y6x 10 ай бұрын
Agree
@DADON99
@DADON99 10 ай бұрын
Storylines have been in sports forever😂
@MrKeysjimmy
@MrKeysjimmy 10 ай бұрын
​@Trini92Flash-zd8dh yes prob even more so.
@MrKeysjimmy
@MrKeysjimmy 10 ай бұрын
Agreed
@thebest_everrrrrrrrrrrr
@thebest_everrrrrrrrrrrr 10 ай бұрын
it’s a part of any media industry - they have to drum up controversy in order to keep their business going, including discussions about fake stars - like the ones you mentioned
@pathfinderjan
@pathfinderjan 10 ай бұрын
Maddog facial expressions is GOATED haha.
@Panos_Georgiou
@Panos_Georgiou 10 ай бұрын
That's a really good take from Steven A and one of the good explanations of why fans don't engage enough with KD
@ChickasawMal28_
@ChickasawMal28_ 10 ай бұрын
Fans engage with KD all the time. After he responds to them they immediately stop hating him because he's one of few superstar players who talk to the fans. Yeh fans may spew they bs to KD, but when they log off the Internet they like I can't believe KD responded back to them.
@Panos_Georgiou
@Panos_Georgiou 10 ай бұрын
@@ChickasawMal28_ At the end of the day though, KD is just seen by fans and teammates as an ultimate scorer. Not a leader that sacrifices himself to set the example for his team, like Giannis Embiid or Curry do for their teams. KD doesn't explain enough to the media or to his team what direction his team has to go towards in order to win a championship. And that's a fact.
@korreymiller3163
@korreymiller3163 10 ай бұрын
So you@@Panos_Georgiou
@otisthomas9976
@otisthomas9976 10 ай бұрын
Was it the players job is to give the reporter's as little as possible to spin, right? Your job, a sports reporter's is to educate the audience on what's going on in that sport, right? Not spin a narrative to drive up mess and confusion. Maybe that's the real problem.
@Tehui1974
@Tehui1974 10 ай бұрын
I thought the discussion as a whole was great.
@soleil3gs
@soleil3gs 10 ай бұрын
I love the back and forth and absolutely love JJ’s passion but I do think he gets a bit upset when there’s no need to be. Be passionate but still be cool
@joshuawaller2597
@joshuawaller2597 10 ай бұрын
Simple- KD has always been a bus rider. He’s a hall of famer and is elite; however, never been the bus driver to carry his own team to a championship.
@tag7376
@tag7376 10 ай бұрын
Jj was apologizing for K.d Lack of leadership. Kd said himself when got to GOLDEN STATE " He just wants to hoop" so he joined team where he didn't have to lead. AND AT BROOKLYN it didn't work out, whole thing collapsed. Kyrie said they don't need coach, KD co-signed. Was a whole lot that showed lack of leadership especially joining team u lost to after being up 3-1. Leadership requires more than skills and making shots. KD STILL ONE OF ONE AND ELITE
@ijayrizzy3116
@ijayrizzy3116 10 ай бұрын
KD shifted the balance of the NBA with every team he joined. Acknowledging that is giving credit.
@Phoenix-kh7tb
@Phoenix-kh7tb 10 ай бұрын
Stephen a is right, jj would defend a player no matter what they did
@semi6544
@semi6544 10 ай бұрын
That just isn't true. He didn't defend Zion. JJ tells it how it is on a lot of players. Zion went to Duke and was a teammate for a short time. So, it should have been harder to be so strict on him. JJ does take the player side a majority of the time but as a former player, their mindsets are more similar than the mindset of a pure media member like Mad Dog or Steven A.
@therealHANSONgroup
@therealHANSONgroup 6 ай бұрын
Coach Redick sticks up for the players, that's why he's a coach now
@DeonExodus
@DeonExodus 10 ай бұрын
Mad dog gives massive grinch vibes & I love it 😂
@aflyingmodem
@aflyingmodem 10 ай бұрын
Steven A was cooking in this segment lmao
@daltonburnett7181
@daltonburnett7181 10 ай бұрын
Only thing SAS cooked in this segment was some burnt toast
@charliec2966
@charliec2966 10 ай бұрын
STEOHEN A. GOT COOOOOKED
@aflyingmodem
@aflyingmodem 10 ай бұрын
@@charliec2966 there's no way you can convince me stephen a got cooked anyone not dumb deaf or blind can tell he cooked JJ this whole segment
@allcinionexplainsitall5869
@allcinionexplainsitall5869 10 ай бұрын
@@aflyingmodemhe really did cook JJ
@shawnchia3611
@shawnchia3611 10 ай бұрын
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 nah he did not, he just has a louder voice
@BubbyandBgirl
@BubbyandBgirl 10 ай бұрын
SAS actually schooled JJ on this topic. Had him looking hella confused lol. Mad Dog was crackin me up without doing really anything at all 😂
@naughtybynature999
@naughtybynature999 10 ай бұрын
Yeah first time I seen SAS get the better of him. Essentially cuz the argument bout journalism not ball.
@dwade6322
@dwade6322 10 ай бұрын
Lol. The more he complains the less we care. He left OKC..He left Golden State...He left Brooklyn..an he got two rings and millions in the bank. Kevin just shut up already!
@jasonbarnwell4185
@jasonbarnwell4185 10 ай бұрын
Love JJ Reddick energy 💯
@howulikemenow3011
@howulikemenow3011 10 ай бұрын
"Oh JJ is on today?" The only time ESPN is Worth watching 😂
@JJones3.
@JJones3. 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A danced around that question like Chris Brown in stomp the yard 😂😂😂😂
@erictalbert4633
@erictalbert4633 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A spoke facts. You just hating
@mostwantedthief
@mostwantedthief 10 ай бұрын
They both have a point that's why the debate is useless
@rrichmond14
@rrichmond14 10 ай бұрын
Danced around what question? He address him directly.
@jmoney973
@jmoney973 10 ай бұрын
JJ danced around how he brought up being in the locker room
@alexbusutil5726
@alexbusutil5726 10 ай бұрын
(12:17) JJ eating his words 😂 (and Mad Dog’s “proud dad” expression as SAS is cookin’)
@dwade6322
@dwade6322 10 ай бұрын
Word!
@braxtonkapels2241
@braxtonkapels2241 10 ай бұрын
JJ didn’t eat his words he was spitting😂 Stephen A just talks
@philipflores2515
@philipflores2515 10 ай бұрын
JJ owned Stephen A Smith in this
@braxtonkapels2241
@braxtonkapels2241 10 ай бұрын
@@philipflores2515 Real basketball fans understand this. Stephen A wants to spew diarrhea out of his mouth every show and that’s what makes him money so he’ll continue to do it. That was essentially his point
@DrewbattleTheGreat
@DrewbattleTheGreat 10 ай бұрын
Stephan A smith owned JJ reddick in this argument. JJ can’t always use the “I’m a player”. Kevin Durant has proved time and time again he’s not a leader. As fans and analyst we have a right to feel that way and it’s valid
@SuperDarthLink
@SuperDarthLink 10 ай бұрын
JJ and SAS going at it is absolutely great! 😂
@jimmyreid2
@jimmyreid2 2 ай бұрын
I have to agree to JJ redick on this
@shakkazulu7870
@shakkazulu7870 10 ай бұрын
I rarely agree with SAS, but I agree with SAS.
@randybailin4902
@randybailin4902 10 ай бұрын
JJ looking thrilled to be on the show
@LongFootLexx
@LongFootLexx 10 ай бұрын
Max Kellerman haunting Stephen A. through JJ Redick (pause) is what we love to see😂😂
@shawnchia3611
@shawnchia3611 10 ай бұрын
karma hurts 😆
@davidcobb1379
@davidcobb1379 10 ай бұрын
When Sas tries to dress young he fails miserably 🤣 🤣
@soniacarrasco888
@soniacarrasco888 6 ай бұрын
JJ Redick has a great point about KD & his leadership by example, because he is a humble person focusing on playing basketball getting paid for !!!!
@charlesbamford5367
@charlesbamford5367 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A is not at all interested in having a serious conversation that educates people about the game. His entire livelihood is dependent on the "men yelling at each other about sports" genre. There is a market for serious conversations about the complexities of the game with the best players in the league (which is why they all have podcasts now which we all listen to) but Stephen A is utterly surplus to that conversation.
@ianprosser
@ianprosser 10 ай бұрын
Bahahahaha! That is so perfectly stated that I have nothing to add. Well played.
@fifamaco
@fifamaco 10 ай бұрын
I have to agree.
@robinabernathy2829
@robinabernathy2829 10 ай бұрын
Probaby because HE didn't play the game so how would he educate.
@addisonhaines5158
@addisonhaines5158 10 ай бұрын
So true. My god he is annoying
@gregoryforte8876
@gregoryforte8876 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A and JJ really had a very tense exchange that got personal.
@tigera6
@tigera6 10 ай бұрын
JJ should stop questioning his colleague credential just because hes a former player and is "liked" more by current players. In his view, ANYTHING that players say is the ultimate truth and whoever DARE to question that or challenge their view is dumb and uneducated about the NBA because they never play it at a high level.
@TheAmazingHow
@TheAmazingHow 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Magic Bot
@Wisestomatoe
@Wisestomatoe 10 ай бұрын
@@tigera6if you haven’t played you have no say so Stephen a should stfu
@AliFrankTheTank
@AliFrankTheTank 10 ай бұрын
@@tigera6he annoying asf 😂😂😂 Jerry West sent em to the gulag
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 10 ай бұрын
He didn't question his credentials, he just asked questions . Is it kd job to educate steven a. The problem is they don't talk to players they don't like, they just create narratives
@gualacheesesteak
@gualacheesesteak 10 ай бұрын
I know Stephen A hates when JJ gets on first take 😂😂
@orginn
@orginn 10 ай бұрын
How so? SAS is the executive producer he approves who's on and not on. SAS knows exactly what he's getting into
@Bernard_24
@Bernard_24 10 ай бұрын
Stephan a doesn’t know anything about basketball
@SlimKim3
@SlimKim3 10 ай бұрын
​@@Bernard_24how you figure that?
@soleil3gs
@soleil3gs 10 ай бұрын
JJ is not on first take without Stephen A’s approval
@lp1578
@lp1578 10 ай бұрын
"Well, it was great having JJ on First Take. I wish him nothing but luck on his future endeavors." - Stephen A. Smith
@TheReason-u1h
@TheReason-u1h 10 ай бұрын
Stephen A And Mad Dog Are Right💯
@hayjay9869
@hayjay9869 10 ай бұрын
First Take be giving the heat. I'm loving it... 💯
@johnpaulkerrigan7975
@johnpaulkerrigan7975 10 ай бұрын
JJ is too quick to make it personal about reporters vs players and ofcourse SAS is going to win that argument
@shynebayarea510
@shynebayarea510 10 ай бұрын
JJ knows more than Stephan a..it's childish to look at it as winning a argument
@johnpaulkerrigan7975
@johnpaulkerrigan7975 10 ай бұрын
@@shynebayarea510 no. JJ is just incapable of criticizing any players. Coaches and media are the only people he’ll criticize
@shynebayarea510
@shynebayarea510 10 ай бұрын
@johnpaulkerrigan7975 i disagree ..old man and a 3 podcast, he critiques players and games on a weekly basis. What are you saying no to? That he doesn't know basketball more than SAS Smith or that a man saying something about winning an argument, not childish?
@stevieJ24
@stevieJ24 10 ай бұрын
Mad dog @ 9:19 😂😂😂
@everythingquincy
@everythingquincy 10 ай бұрын
Yall think Jj getting fired, I think this is a great conversation lmao. They both making excellent points.
@drajmiller
@drajmiller 10 ай бұрын
"Can I respond?" (SAS). Of course you can, it's your show"(JJ Redick). 😂😂😂
@TheyCallMeGator
@TheyCallMeGator 10 ай бұрын
I love how they just cut Molly off there at the end. 😂😭
@jamieldomasig
@jamieldomasig 10 ай бұрын
They took that chance from Molly. 😅
@yamzgoddess9109
@yamzgoddess9109 10 ай бұрын
JJ Reddick, I like you but you talking nonesense!!!!! KD is friend so He is Biaised - He is not objective!!!! That's why he is not qualified to educate us about criticizing Basket ball players!! Steven A is qualified cause he is objective and roasted everyone! Noone is questioning Durant no being a Good Player!! He is but no Leader! Before he went to Golden State, they were winning and When he left the Golden States they Still WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A Leader doesn't go for what makes him happy. He prioritizes what makes his team happy, Durant is pursuing happiness at the expenses of his teammates? He's no leader! He's an amazing player though! Right now is the time for him to prove that he a leader. He's the experienced player on a young team... Lead them to victory and we'll open the debate of you being a leader! LEbron left the cavs, went to Miami, won titles, came back to the cavs, won a title the went to the Lakers, won a title... That's a Leader but not like the REAL LEADERS JORDAN (evemn tho I think LBJ > Jordan) and Curry who stayed on their Team to win titles!!!
@soulsearch1234
@soulsearch1234 10 ай бұрын
Tired of this false labeling against KD
@HARRY__Pecker
@HARRY__Pecker 10 ай бұрын
Who says star players have to be vocal leaders? shut up, and stop crying. Corny loser.
@DJSteezy
@DJSteezy 10 ай бұрын
As soon as I read the Forst sentence in your comment I was digging around to see where you mention Curry. And sure enough, it’s there.
@geekydiplomat
@geekydiplomat 10 ай бұрын
Mad Dog's face 😂
@CallOutsTv
@CallOutsTv 10 ай бұрын
When JJ started talking his ish Stephen a Smith put that ear bud in real quick like...who da puck this new ninja taking too 😂🤣😭
@samuelbempong3682
@samuelbempong3682 10 ай бұрын
It’s cause the sound went out a little but I love the drama between Stephen A and JJ 😂😂😂
@franciscocruz7478
@franciscocruz7478 10 ай бұрын
JJ needs to not be a tool. Bro they aren’t going to call you a hero if you take their side. KD isn’t a leader period end of story. No one questions his greatness or accomplishments they question his ability to lead the a team to a championship. He hasn’t done that. Steph was the leader on the Warriors. Ky was the leader on the Nets. Currently on the Suns it’s a question mark. Id say Booker is but idk if he’s ready for that responsibility.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr Bus Rider for riding the bus.
@jacobluna1731
@jacobluna1731 10 ай бұрын
Head and shoulders better than the person who keeps pushing that narrative😭😭😭
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 10 ай бұрын
​​@@jacobluna1731 Feel free to make a point... or just emote...
@a.g.efitness1184
@a.g.efitness1184 10 ай бұрын
Mr two time finals MVP. 🤷🏿
@Wisestomatoe
@Wisestomatoe 10 ай бұрын
Kevin Durant > Charles Barkley
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 10 ай бұрын
@@a.g.efitness1184 Iggy won FMVP
@nothingspecial8114
@nothingspecial8114 10 ай бұрын
All JJ does is get mad on here 90% of the show
@r.m.90
@r.m.90 10 ай бұрын
I'm so sick of JJ acting like the authority on everything just because he was a mid player in the league.
@mm-so2zj
@mm-so2zj 9 ай бұрын
He wasn’t mid but ok… he averaged 28 at duke average 17+ for years a 17 year career one of the best three point shooters you don’t know basketball
@jaceking5938
@jaceking5938 10 ай бұрын
Even NBA player JJ reddick cant understand WHY KD was able to be finals MVP in GS, and nowhere close elsewhere. Weird. Steph and Draymond opened up the game so much for KD, who was playing his best possible role. Steph was and always has been the most valuable player on that team
@globalwarmingisreal311
@globalwarmingisreal311 10 ай бұрын
It's true though, it's all about public perception, 99% of us think KD is NOT a leader. He is an amazing athlete but not a leader. Leaders are MJ, KOBE and LEBRON.
@xaevius5319
@xaevius5319 10 ай бұрын
it's not even about perception, he just really isn't. no matter what definition or criteria you have for a 'leader' kd doesn't fit it
@lenerdkawhy7702
@lenerdkawhy7702 8 ай бұрын
Just love the oh-please-don''t-mind-me vibe oozing out of Mad Dog 😂😂😂
@samikhalifa6021
@samikhalifa6021 10 ай бұрын
“Its not 60 minutes” 😂 i love Mad Dog
@circle7205
@circle7205 10 ай бұрын
I mever seen Mad dog this entertained. His silence said alot lol. Great take
@SuperDiggem
@SuperDiggem 10 ай бұрын
I’m so glad they cut it off when Molly was tryna talk…
@StO1Rm_Enterprises
@StO1Rm_Enterprises 10 ай бұрын
JJ Rolling his eyes while the old heads talked was awesome xD
@KeithCooksey-o9h
@KeithCooksey-o9h 10 ай бұрын
JJ is too aggressive in conversation and completely disrespects Mad Dog. This is similar to how Richard Sherman is towards Skip. Maybe some group therapy for Sherm and JJ is in order.
@JacobClass
@JacobClass 10 ай бұрын
Love these heated debates
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