Did my EGO stop me from BUYING the BMW 310R?

[@waynenewton5163]

Hi I am 54 years old and passed my test beginning this year. I bought a Triumph 900 Tiger and not regretted one minute of it. The insurance is expensive but well worth it. in my experience, it’s well worth buying a bike that you enjoy and love being on rather than trying to save money on insurance with a smaller bike that doesn’t make you want to look back at it when you get off.

[@bikerofatlantis]

This is great advice and thanks for sharing it 👍

[@randomguy9893]

I passed my test in October this year, 56 years old and got a nine year old vstrom 650 xt. Cost me 4k and came with full hard luggage and only 9000 miles on the clock. Insurance was only £350 so not bad. Think a 650 is probably the sweet spot for insurance and decent mpg. Vstrom decent versatile bike good reliability and made in Japan.

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

10 years old Japanese with low mileage 600 to 650 seems to be the sweet spot for insurance. 125s are way more expensive for me than a 600cc.

[@mikereed7887]

@@randomguy9893 ....the 650 V Strom is a fantastic bike ; I can vouch for that 🏍️👍

[@mattmutane5502]

@@mikereed7887 Agreed! The DRZ-SM 400 might also be a decent option! :)

[@artiexr222]

​@mattmutane5502Totally agree I,m 63 had an SM 3yrs and love it economical,reliable and now on classic insurance.

[@charliecook3531]

Hold fire and have a look at the Enfield Bear 650 or the BSA scrambler coming early next year, both half the price of the triumph and with warranty (4 years in the BSA case)

[@Mjbiker83]

I know riders who have ridden for 20 years plus who are awful still and lads who passed less than a year ago who are a natural. Take no notice of that message as miles and years riding doesn’t automatically mean they are a better rider. You have people who have ridden all of their lives who have never left the country and people who have set off on a Euro or a world trip immediately after passing their test

[@siraff4461]

Experience always helps regardless of inherent talent. I'm not against someone going straight to a big bike but watching him get nervous about taking a 33hp 310 out in drizzle doesn't bode well for him to just jump on a rocket.

[@Scouse.Malinois]

​@siraff4461 tbh mate I don't think it matter if it's 20hp or 200hp he's just going to ride round at the same speed anyway. He's just one of those people

[@swaff666]

I had a 1200cc triumph twin and it was nowhere near as fast as my 600cc gsxr. What I mean is don't be scared of the 900cc scrambler cause it's not a fast revving sports bike. It's very handleable and forgiving. Try one I think u will love it 🙂

[@chrishart8548]

It sounds like he doesn't get that cc doesn't automatically mean loads of power. A Honda NT750 is the best example of that. 57hp I think. A gsxr750 probably has 130+ and most people don't understand. I would have a 1000cc bike it's mainly the running cost that puts me off.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing

[@thepodbaydoorshal]

@@chrishart8548 Can you blame him? That’s how it is on 4 wheels and 95% of none riders would think the same.

[@chrishart8548]

@thepodbaydoorshal true I guess that's always where it comes from. Interesting how motorcycles come with so many engine configurations and different amount of cylinders.

[@crozzy28]

Are we all forgetting its not CC, HP, or PS its the Right wrist that makes the difference, i rode two years on a BMW S1000 rr whilst my wife was on Yamaha MT 125 cc they went the same speed but it was down to my right wrist not the CC!

[@alanriozzi421]

As previously mentioned. Have a look at the Honda 500 twins. They do around six different bikes with the same 471cc engine. Will do 70 to 80mph all day long. Fuel efficient and generally easy to ride. You can get a street style, cruiser, sports, scrambler and adventure to suit most tastes.

[@bandog2250]

Once I pass my tests, I am getting the 500 rebel for all of those reasons, cheap, great handling, fuel efficient. Looks decent.

[@pierrederesistance]

I just suggested the same above. I was a similar weight and had a cb500f, never had any problems with the power, including a four day tour of Wales and the peaks.

[@thartiustheslayerofthots7088]

Honda rebel 500

[@siraff4461]

@@thartiustheslayerofthots7088 Thats a great bike but he's going to struggle fitting on one at his height. I'm a fair bit shorter and its one of the few bikes thats even tight for me.

[@aeron-mw7ofs]

I'm looking at either a cb500x or the nx500 👍

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Enjoying your videos👍 While contemplating which bike to go for, can I suggest the following rule of thumb: if you’re constantly on full throttle, you need a more powerful engine. Best of luck😊

[@bikerofatlantis]

Good tip!

[@BrianClewley-vu7sm]

Hi. Talk to Via Moto re the moto Guzzi V85tt. Great bike, not to much power but a good physical size.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for the info!

[@rabsrealm]

Have a look at the Honda NC750X It's a decent commuter and won't break the bank. I've owned one myself and never had an ounce of trouble out of it.

[@BenHur872]

A '16 NC750X is my first bike and I agree with this suggestion. It's relatively low power but has some heft to it and feels chunky. Will apparently do 115mph but I'm just getting used to 70mph. Insurance was cheap. The storage bin is also incredibly useful!

[@BenHur872]

@gpzfan5272 Yeah, and commuting is Andy's main use case. Great, practical, reliable, inexpensive first big bike while he gets experience and learns what he'll want to upgrade to

[@mattmutane5502]

@gpzfan5272 Not only boring, but ridiculously heavy as well!

[@matsmth1]

“Thank you for your videos; they are so relatable. I passed my test in the late ’80s, and after a decade of commuting into London for work, I completely fell out of love with riding. I was on a large Triumph, which was costing a fortune. My advice, for what it’s worth, is to keep your 125 for your commute and buy yourself whatever you fancy second-hand as your ‘best’ bike.”

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thank you 👍

[@keithsimpson]

Been into Miles King sport in hull. They have a Honda NC750X 24 plate 600 miles 5k great commuter bike.

[@daddystu7046]

Instructor told me i'd get bored of anything 500cc or below and want something faster within 6 months. Took his advice and went for 700cc 75HP bike. Glad I did.

[@bikerofatlantis]

sounds good

[@simonjinks2102]

I second that, Go get the scrambler. Its such an easy bike to ride. Smooth power delivery and don't let the big cc put you off. I went from 5 days riding to a 900cc Triumph Speedmaster and im so glad I never went down the smaller route.

[@jameslittler4151]

Spot on.

[@davidphillips5430]

That’s funny. In your last video I said to go to Vertu & that’s exactly what you did. You are right Michael is a top lad & very helpful. The thing about a big bike is if you buy right it can grow with you. It only goes at fast as you twist the throttle back. No need to ride flat out.

[@davidphillips5430]

I only passed my test last year & have done in excess of 18000 miles on 4 different bikes. I’ve now got 2 new BMWs & wouldn’t bother with anything else. 1300gs & an m1000xr. Perfect garage for me

[@bikerofatlantis]

Great experience

[@7777btkkk]

About the insurance - I noticed that older bikes, typically those from the late 90s/early 2000s have lower insurance premiums no matter the cc because most insurance companies don’t have enough accident/crash data on them. Not asking you to go out to buy an old bike, as you may prefer a modern one, but if you see an older one in good condition, it could be worth a shot. You will save money on depreciation, insurance, etc and you won’t worry too much about dropping it as it would be comparatively cheaper to fix

[@siraff4461]

Most of that is because they qualify as classic insurance over 15 years old. Unfortunately if you haven't had your license very long most companies won't quote on a classic policy so it reverts to a standard one and the prices aren't much different. Older bikes can also have issues getting parts, age related issues like perishing rubber parts or rust and the usual one where they have stood and the fuel system is full of gunk/rust thanks to our wonderful petrol.

[@billabongoneill]

Mine was just the opposite because my Moto Guzzi was built in 1979 they had no idea about the bike and the insurance was more expensive, I’ve been riding since 1972. The insurance was £240 fully comprehensive, had the bike been slightly later 1982 it would have cost £169 as it was on their database.

[@inoiamds]

I did the same , bought the 310 gs and loved it for a few months, then they had a open day at BMW and could have a test ride on any bike, tried the R nine T and WOW !! what a machine, bought it same day , that was last year and I am still smiling lol, smoother, bags of torque and easier to ride, lots of power if needed , awesome bike, try one and see....

[@bikerofatlantis]

Very nice!

[@bikersparky]

Yes a beauty of a machine I had the scrambler instantly regretted selling it

[@a.british.hedgehog9720]

I went straight for a BMW R9T Urban GS and it was a hell of a leap from a 650 training bike but I don't see any need to change it in for the foreseeable future. Shaft drive (no maintenance), plenty of power without being mad (109HP), can mod it to do everything (screens, panniers, bars). It was about £1000 to insure the first year bits it's getting better every year. Ride what you feel comfortable on but if you read the comments, lots of good bikes around the 700cc market (honda 750, RE 650s, GS750), or go slightly bigger for a second hand F850 GS or any of the Triumph 900s. Try as many as you can before you commit...

[@Draknareth]

Shaft drive ftw. Also worth noting that if you've bought it from a dealer they will likely contact you to let you know that the shaft drive is covered under warranty every 36,000 miles 👍 My old R1200R went into Piddocks at Long Eaton last December as a throttle valve had died, unfortunately that cost me £580, but while it was there they checked a load of stuff over and replaced the shaft drive free of charge :)

[@danielidoine766]

To avoid stalling, before taking the bike out of the car park, in the first few minutes just play with the friction zone, clutch and slow control because they will all be different to your old bike. Also check out moto control channel's video about not stalling from stops.

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍👍

[@AlbertKidd86]

The stalling was because he was in second gear.

[@danielidoine766]

@@AlbertKidd86 i can pull away on the flat in 3rd gear because I get to the correct bite point and don't let the revs drop which is down to knowing the bike and smooth control. As can be learned via Moto control's channel.

[@mwb]

My little story for you. Passed my test on a 125cc (YBR) loved that bike. Stayed restricted for 2 years under the old rules. Went upto a restricted CBR 600, too sporty and back pain. Stopped biking for a few years as my partner had a motobike accident. It called out to me again and I bought a Royal Enfield Meteor 350, fantastic bike, had that for a year, but just didn't have a enough go for 70 mph roads. Again as you say, you need that power to allow for snap decisions. Upgraded to a Royal Enfield Super Meteor 650 when they came out. The bike was perfect in most ways. I then got my Kawasaki Versys 650 and have never looked back. Had this one for just over a year, perfect for commuting, perfect weekend rider and group rider, and just so easy to ride. The power between the RE and Versys despite both being 650 is crazy. The above was over 3/4 years, but as you trained on a 650, why go lower. I would stay where you are comfy, ride easy for a couple of years, getting to know your riding style and abilities and see how you get on. Just ride to your ability, I rarely do anything stupid, have about 7,000 miles per year on bike, and 6,000 in car. Most of the time go out solo and just enjoy the ride in no rush to get anywhere for any particular time. Best of luck!

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi. Love the story, thanks for sharing 👍👍

[@leighspesa8321]

Versys 650 for me as well. I love it.

[@stevebandit1964]

Loving you guys and your content on this channel, I'm 60 now and been riding 44 years, really interesting to see your progression as a mature ' newcomer ' to biking in this modern era ! To think back to myself in 1985 when I was 21 and riding around on a 1000cc beast ! .. ego didn't come into it, just the love of the machine itself.. ! 😎

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi. Thanks for watching and sharing your story 👍

[@kieranZZ1]

Urgh, I think that message sounded really patronising and I think take it with a pinch of salt! Get what you want and don’t ride like a crazy person (which I don’t think you will) 😊

[@GTC123.]

I absolutely agree … jesus who did the lad think he was ….. ohhh me and my friends blah blah blah ….. Aside from his ‘ i know better’ wording i thought his opinion was absolute bollocks

[@colette_447]

I agree with this comment.

[@fox3shooter]

I agree that comment was utter mince ! No matter the cc of the bike it’s the man that twists the throttle. You don’t look like someone that rides like an idiot, your car can probably do 130mph but how often do you use it ? You don’t, you use what power you have for the conditions you are in only. I went to a BMW F900R after my test, look at the BMW F900XR if you like the badge and more of a road touring bike suitable for commuting. ABS, electronic suspension with road/rain mode etc, Bluetooth and satnav which connects to BMW App on phone and you can have satnav directions etc on the digital dash/in ear if headphones in.

[@cobracleaning5014]

650-750 are great all rounders and to be honest we get our licence to ride bigger bikes and not be limited as long as the mindset is right and all that, with regards to ego, when I went to buy my big bike the guy wheeled it out his garage and my missus said oohh do you think you will be able to handle that right in front of him. That certainly put my ego in its place lol

[@siraff4461]

It did sound off but you have to remember he's rocked up on a Keeway 125 and only had his license five minutes. Any sensible salesman would be pointing him toward something reasonable to handle. He doesn't have to listen but if they advised him to go straight for the fastest thing he could get I'm sure some litigious a55hat would try to sue them over it.

[@johnludmon510]

I own a royal Enfield 350 meteor as my second bike/ commuter bike as my ride to work is about 10 miles of sub 50mph roads the bike is just about perfect for that but you have to accept the top speed is 75mph . The bike will sit at 70 but you haven’t anything in reserve,when it is busy I do feel a bit exposed and on dual carriageways you can be trapped with the lorries at 55mph. I wouldn’t want the meteor as my only bike as it is too small and underpowered . This is a big “if” but if I was you I would be looking second hand and in the 500 to 700cc and I would be buying Japanese ,Suzuki V-strom Yamaha tenere, Hondas 500 twins or kawasaki versus 650 or the road bike version as bikes like the Suzuki SV 650 have been around for years . I wouldn’t be looking at any Chinese bikes or Indian made like Royal Enfield or BSA as these are harder to sell when you want to change the bike.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Lovely bike

[@stevesbikeadventures]

I passed my test in 2019 so am fairly new to riding. My training was on a 125 Suzuki van van . I also bought one of to use for training and to gain experience. I then did my direct access on a Yamaha fz6 - fazer. After my test I also bought one with 14k miles a 2008 bike for around £1800. My suggestion would be to learn your craft on a 600cx ish machine and then move up / down as fits you. I still have the Fazer now and it is great enough power and a good cruiser.

[@mickwharton]

I bought a Fazer 600 for my first bike back in September and love it, has all the power I need and cheap to insure. Great first bikes.

[@BrynSurreyHills]

Really enjoying all your videos. It reminds me of how excited I was going through this process four years ago. I had a Mutt Fat Sabbath 125 to practice on until I did my direct access. I knew I wanted a Harley and moved to a Sportster Iron 883 after passing my MOD 2. Loved it but it was slow on the dual carriageways. Now moved on to a Softail Standard. It has 1750 engine but I’m not a fast rider and it is as much fun at 40mph on country lanes as anything. Do what is right for you, both. Keep up the good work and looking forward to watching where you go next

[@jeremyduszynski9729]

I have an XL883L Superlow and I easily keep up at motorway speeds with room to spare also when I am out with others on their G1250GS'. Having just had a heart condition I wanted something considerably lighter. The Sportster fully fuelled weighs in at around 260 kg, my classic Honda CX 500 Custom 220 kg and I have just bought a BMW G310GS weighing in at 170 kg, so a 90 kg weight reduction over the Sportster. Went on a 100 mile ride out last weekend with others on Triumph 1200 Explorer, G1250GS, etc and had no issues keeping up at legal road speeds. Yes, you have to change gear a bit more to keep it going but my ride was very enjoyable so don't underestimate the capabilities of the 300 to 500 cc category. Looking forward to the next ride out. Word of caution. A few years ago a 50+ friend of mine passed his test on a twist-and-go 125 and then bought a used Suzuki GSXF750. He frightened himself silly on that bike as it was much too powerful for him as he was inexperienced and would not lean the bike round corners. After less than a year he sold the bike and gave up on biking. The more you ride n the rain the more you will become at ease with the situation. As you mention, you are inexperienced, there is nothing like putting in more miles. Also, you could do an advanced course like IAM. I came back to biking 15 years ago having had a 20 year gap. I chose the CX as it was not too small and not too big or too fast and gave me time to get used to riding again. I then bought the Sportster and 4 years ago did my IAM training which taught me a lot and I believe made me able to maintain progress in a safe manner. There is no harm in choosing something that YOU are comfortable with not what others say. Take your time to choose, it is not a race. Go and enjoy the relative freedom of two wheels on whatever you choose.

[@YungFusebox]

Try and get your leg over one of the 900cc Triumphs (preferably the scrambler given that's already caught your eye). The engines are so accessible and forgiving, aren't particularly high revving - the power delivery would be plenty for you to grow into but also not too high that you'll be constantly scared. You're a tall fella too so you'd have no trouble flat footing both feet when you're at a stop, this was always my biggest issue when I first started riding - particularly on inclines when the road is wet.

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍

[@CunningDesigns]

I passed my CBT back in October and bought a new Honda CB125R. I’m super pleased with it and at first I thought I may have gone over the top with my purchase being one of the more expensive bikes in that market. Three months on and 900 miles down I’m still loving it. It’s exceeded my expectations. It’s nippy around town and can maintain 60mph easily enough to keep up with dual carriage way traffic. I’ve had 72mph (GPS) flat out. I’d imagine I’m a touch lighter than you tho. People keep asking me when I am going to do my big bike test. I still feel like every time I go out I learn something new so don’t feel I need to do my next level any time soon. I plan to spend the next year getting the miles and experience in and then maybe I’ll take on the next level. Mainly to get rid of the L plates rather than change the bike. Being honest, my bike is a cheap bit of freedom for me. Since starting a family I haven’t been able to get out on my push bike leading me to become less fitter so when I did go out it wasn’t fun. I’m not sure I want to take on the extra cost of a bigger bike so that may be the reason I’m not that fussy about the next level. I got in from work last night after a busy day and jumped on the bike for a quick 40 mile coast ride. It cleared my mind and cost button in fuel. That’s what it’s about for me. Keep up the videos, I’m also enjoying the motorhome life ones too 👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi. Thanks for watching 👍👍👍

[@sweeny1972]

Andrew, I think your logic is spot on and you need a bike to build your confidence with and become the master of. Motorcycling is a bit like most sports, you learn far more doing it, than talking about it (although talking is good). As you have already realised the choice you have is massive but the extra considerations I would think about if I were as tall as you is, comfort over distances and 2-up capability. Perhaps: Honda 500X - Suzuki V 650 - Yamaha MT07 - Kawasaki Z650 - Royal Enfield Himalayan or Scram or Guerrilla... P.S. Give the 125cc to Claire for Christmas

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thank you

[@sweeny1972]

@@bikerofatlantis Once you have chosen your bike if you really want to improve, in the real world, then the best way is by 'touring' on your bike every day, for a few days and it all becomes 'subconscious competence' you no longer think but just do...

[@kimmcanally597]

My hubby had a Triumph Street Triple and has now gone down to a Triumph Trident. He loves it, it still does 0-60 in 3 and a bit seconds. Good luck with your search.

[@bikerofatlantis]

That is awesome!

[@MRo55i74]

Get a new triumph scrambler 900 you kept looking back it and that says it all don’t fall into the trap of thinking you need a massive adventure bike !!

[@PyramidHead76]

I, triumph scrambler 900 rider, second this.

[@tomcopsey3571]

Thirded. Buy the bike you want, not the one you think you 'need'

[@johnbrennan592]

This all day and twice on Sunday

[@frantiseksram9741]

Yes, I would say that's a good choice too. I said it before, even though it's 900ccm on paper, it's not a powerhouse like MT09 is. Both 900ccm, totally different thing. 65 break horse versus 117 break horse. So it's really more comparable to mid range than top range.

[@Dozeyish]

How much will the insurance be for him? 😮

[@onedroneuk4067]

I'm 6'6 and use to ride sports bikes, but had aches and pains everywhere. Recently got myself a BMW R1200GS Adventure. Best buy I've done. Very comfortable ride and I can do long milage now without needing to stop to stretch.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Sounds great 👍

[@richbiker9]

Hi there, I'm 6'4. I ride a Honda trans ALP 650 adventure bike which you can get insured on classic insurance. Cheaply Very reliable bike keeps up with all the big bikes.

[@krismachon4005]

My first bike in 2017 was a brand new Z800. I didn’t want to buy a small capacity bike and mess around swapping out for a bigger bike. I kept that bike for 3 years and 26k miles. Took it to Italy, used in all weathers. Amazing bike, very planted and I never got bored of it. Still gutted I got rid, but I had to scratch the sports bike itch. Get what you feel comfortable on and don’t be worried with what others say, it’s your money, your head and your wrist that opens the throttle, or not.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi, Thanks for sharing 👍

[@MATS_MAKERSPACE]

Again im banging on about the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 but for me the power is enough im 6ft 2 just under 15st and i can travel at motorway speeds and beyond with no issues. I too like you steered away from more powerful bikes and for now im happy i did

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing

[@locksrus1]

Hi Andrew, been watching your other channel for a year. As a lifelong biker I just had to jump across to your new channel and put in my penny’s worth! I have loved biking all my life, but decided to give up the aches and pains for our caravan. The bikes I have owned are from heavy duty cruisers such as the Harley Davidson Fatboy to the Kawasaki ZZR1300 and everything in between. All that said…. Not for ego (promise) but as you are a 6’4” lad please try the Triumph sports tourers. You will never look back. My pillion wife, Suzi and I loved going across Europe on our bikes. None more than the Triumph Sprint 1050ST. I can honestly say that we never felt safer or more in control of a bike (cruisers don’t allow the same, get out of trouble lean) Finally, simply advise is that any bike only goes as fast as the twist on your wrist and if you enter a corner hot… don’t look at the danger, just look where you want the bike to take you and a triumph with good balance will get you there. Happy travels.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hello. Fab to hear from you Thanks for taking the time to watch our videos, love the recommendations here! Claire is after a caravan.. !! Have a great day

[@sayresyDevino]

I am 61 and passed my test a couple of years ago. Even before I had passed my test I ended up buying a Tiger 800 XCX..Fell in love as the Tiger was everything I wanted out of a bike. Obviously, passed my test (fantastic feeling of joy) Was a bit of a shock going out for the first time, but loved it and signed up for an advanced rider course IAMS. At your age you should get a comfy bike that suits your style. Something big for a large lad like you. A powerful engine (to me) is a lot more stable and forgiving and will get you out of trouble. My Insurance was around £400 and has now gone down to £200. I currently have a Tiger 900 Rally Pro (23 plate). So much fun stuff to do on an adventure bike, plus they are really well setup and solid. Go mid sized and the tiger 800 can be restricted andmioght look good for you insurance wise and bump up your confidence. Personally I love the power but dont abuse it. Well occasionally perhaps..

[@kujouk]

Went to test the 900 tiger ages ago, they didn't have one so I went on the 660 tiger, while it was good it just ran out of steam about high 90ish, sort of put me off. which is strange as I've rode smaller bikes which didn't feel like that.

[@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214]

Always good to watch you two. As a 64 year old (tomorrow!) biker with years of riding experience I highly recommend you buying something like a Kawasaki 650, reliable fast and suitable for a big guy like you. Ride safe and merry Christmas to you both .

[@bikerofatlantis]

Happy happy birthday. You are as young as you feel 👍👍 Merry Christmas 😎

[@sonofscotland67]

A big Ego on a very powerful bike can easily land you in A+E..I take my hat off to you for putting off getting on that 750 in bad weather you did right big man..👍🏻

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for this 👍👍

[@chrisfrew8391]

@@bikerofatlantis I agree, that was defo the right move, well done.

[@paulfoot1042]

You can always put the bigger bike in rain mode.

[@conkerman01]

More like a big ego on any bike 51Mph can be enough t punch your clock if you hit something solid.

[@Johnadler1234]

I'm still on a 125 after a year and a half and 12k miles and I agree with the commenter about keeping the cc low until the miles and experience are up. When I eventually take my test in the springtime I'll probably go for a second hand cb500 f. Not that glamorous but still cheap to run and not scary to drop.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi. Thanks for this

[@mrtommyP80]

don't worry to much about the cc for power, look at the bhp, anything below 40bhp is not for me. but to be honest you will be comfortable with a bike from 40bhp to 90 bhp, you can go for more but you don't really need to. hope this helps

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks

[@nevpfc]

When I first passed my test, I purchased a new 250 and I regretted it, not because of the bike itself, but because of how quick you outgrow it, confidence and ability wise. This cost me a good deal in money through the various changes in insurance, tax etc etc. I swapped my 250 for an older 600 and the costs were near identical and made me a far better rider as I had to constantly ensure I was riding to the best of my ability, considering the machines capability far outweighed my ability and it did for a good while. Get something around the 650cc (70-100hp) mark and that will ensure your ego remains in check, and it will be a while before your ability outweighs the bikes capability. Added bonus also being you'll save money in the long term too, especially if you look at older bikes, especially Hondas as they are generally bulletproof. All the best and keep up the cracking videos!

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing this

[@davidmatthews3093]

Thank you for taking my comment seriously. I am an older rider who passed his motorcycle test 50 years ago. That’s a long time. I have ridden motorcycles ever since and in the past few years they have been my preferred means of transport. That’s nothing to do wit economy as I also own a Porsche and a Golf GTI, both of which I love driving. I just love motorcycling. In my motorcycling life I went from sensible bikes to sports bikes and in 2013 I probably reached my peak, I bought a brand new ST1300 Pan European. I loved it. It was a great tourer with its V4 1300 cc engine, shaft drive, full fairing and electrically adjustable but was still nimble enough to thrash around the backroads. In 2021 I traded it in. I decided I wanted more of an ‘adventure bike’ because the roads and tracks around where I lived were best explored on something with good suspension and a bit of ground clearance. I thought the Moto Guzzi was the obvious fit for me, so I test rode one. It was lovely but dull, so dull. A couple of weeks later I was having a new rear tyre fitted on my Pan and I asked the dealer if I could test ride a 500X while I was waiting. Five minutes later I was out on the bike. What a surprise! I had expected nothing but found that I was riding exactly what I wanted. A couple of weeks later I arranged another test ride to check what I thought and straight afterwards ordered one. Three years and tens of thousands later I still love it. I thought that the pan European was the ultimate touring bike but since getting the 500X my annual mileage has doubled. It has taken me across Europe time and time again. I spent several days with an old friend in the Pyrenees, as he was on his Multistrada V4 we made plans for him to stop and wait for me from time to time but in reality the Honda matched the Ducati on the mountain roads. The big difference was at the end of the day when we filled up his top up cost exactly twice mine. 🙂 Don’t get sucked in by the you must strive for bigger and better and more expensive bikes. Please don’t believe that a BMW or KTM badge means a better bike, look at the breakdown stats for both and you will be horrified. Find the bike that suits you, is great for the sort of riding that you are going to do. Ignore others, including me and get what is best for you. I know that hundreds of people will be shaking their head when I say that my 47BHP Honda is the best touring bike that I have ever owned but believe me it is. It is more than fast enough for public roads, anything more would be wasted unless you are going to do a lot of track days. The old saying is true, it’s much better to ride a slow (good handling) bike fast than a fast bike slow. You will find what you need from experience, good luck on that journey.

[@crozzy28]

Hi David i can see you have a lot of riding experience and had a good selection of bikes, i also have had my A1 license 45 years and can’t remember all my bikes my last three bikes have been BMW’s S1000rr, S1000r and my latest M1000r and never had any problems but selecting a bike is such a personal thing and we can only offer advice from our own experiences but im not sure it’s helpful just because of the personal nature of choosing. My only advice is the throttle doesant make the bike go its your right wrist.

[@Labgorilla]

One of the wisest comments I have ever seen on KZbin. I am worried for this guy that he will go too big too soon and have a collision or near accident with a machine that he is not ready to handle. We need more bikers and time and experience are your best friends to improve your riding ability.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi David, Thanks for your comment and it made me think. Have a great evening and thanks for taking the time to message

[@johnmiller7763]

​@@crozzy28A1 is a 125 licence

[@henrypringle6047]

As a long term owner of a G310r. Great bike for someone having newly passed their test or commuting. Plenty of torque from the single engine BUT common issue with the alternator failure which costs £1k to fix.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks 👍

[@kennethheldreich6604]

A Royal Enfield interceptor bear, I absolutely love my interceptor, I've had big Japanese and European sports bikes, but I just love bimbling around on my interceptor 🙂👍🏍🇬🇧

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing!

[@mikehughes3058]

The GS 310 is a more accommodating frame size to the road going version they offered. Have a look at Royal Enfield they've got some cracking deals and a nice range you can tailor to your needs I ride a GSA 1250 Rallye and RE Himalayan 410 and have fun on both(I'm only 6'2" 90 kg) but have great times on the Himalayan. If you get more cc's, you can change sprockets on a chain drive to overcome ....loading ahem of rider. Stay safe well chuft you got your license. Started watching you guys in your vivaro adventures. Brilliant channels, you should be proud 👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for watching and your comment

[@robbontoft8034]

Hi much like yourself i passed hi full bike test this year at the age of 59 he had a 46 yr old yamaha rs 125 for a year before taking the full bike test on the day of the test i bought a Suzuki DL650 V Strom 2012 plate with 25000 mile on it i absolutely love it and the insurance was only £130 fully comp try an older bike until the insurance cost come down

[@warrenbrooks-r2h]

Ego and a powerful bike never ends well. As a rider of 40 years I have seen this all too often.

[@GaryB-oj2wd]

I passed my test about 8 years ago. I had rode 125s when I was 17 but didn't Like taking tests. When i got to 50 i decided i was going to do it. Same as you i done direct access course passed first time. Now wished i had done it years ago. Whent to my dealers and purchased a 1200cc bike and have since bought about 7 bikes from them. You can get yourself in to trouble on a small bike as well as big. If you trust yourself and are sensible it ok. I will not ride with anyone I don't trust to be sensible. Enjoy what ever you choose and stay safe.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing

[@matbroadway2980]

I passed my test at 47, and being a taller rider, I went through a similar journey as yourself. My first bike was the Kawasaki Versys 650, and I loved it. So much so that 5 bikes later, I just treated myself 23 plate model. So I have come full circle. It's a great channel. Keep up the great work. Mat.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi Mat, thanks for warning and sharing this 👍

[@damianmcbride612]

I’d recommend a used 600ish cc bike. My instructor said don’t buy new because you will drop it and it and nobody wants to drop a new bike

[@fuglbird]

Good advice. I would say 500 - 600ish - but not a monster sport bike!

[@ShaunFraser-q8n]

Hey there Andy/clare it's Fireball here, when i was doing my A1 test I had already bought a Honda cbf 600cc these a great bikes, go forever, easy to maintain and they are practice bikes, this is just my opinion however 600cc seems to be the preferred option as they are mid range and have the power you need to get along the road and be safe. Specially when you are coming up the cc ranks as a new rider...... 🏍🏍 like I said just my opinion and its worked for me...... Happy riding and of course safe riding 🏍🏍😊👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hello Fireball! Thanks for this info Have a great evening

[@trooper64428]

If your budget is 8 to 10k you could buy two used bikes something like the BMW F800GS (adventure bike) probably around 5k mileage might be high, but those things are unbreakable, and a Honda Shadow VT 750 (cruiser), you could probably get a decent one good condition low mileage for about 3k.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing

[@sbx33]

Enjoying the channel. Don't forget the indicator cancelling mind you when pulling into that car park 😀

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for the tip!

[@MarcBoggust]

Personally I wouldn’t get to hung up on engine cc as I ride a cbr 650r and it has more horsepower than a lot of 700-900cc bikes I looked at buying. So just because it has a large engine cc it doesn’t mean it will be to fast for you Love the channel merry Christmas to you and Claire

[@bikerofatlantis]

Merry Christmas 👍👍

[@obionemoreslice2479]

Well done on passing your test chum! The Ladys energy makes these videos 110% better 😊

[@obionemoreslice2479]

Sooo smiley 😊

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thank you! 😊

[@johnevans9897]

Had a Royal Enfield Himalayan, 411cc. Good for commuting and around town, but would not recommend for motorway miles. It was a nice bike for the money. Used prices are also very affordable.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing

[@colette_447]

In my opinion, for what its worth i would definately try the gs750 or the 800. I have the 750 and its a low geared bike with no surprises. Its a brilliant firgiving engine. You passed your test on a 650, you are a tall chap and i honestly think you need to take tgat 750 out. Well done on passing your test. We love your vids and both channels. 😊❤

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing!

[@stevenlambert1895]

one thing you've missed is the state of tune of the engine 600cc sports bike could be crazy fast but my enfield 650 interceptor which is A2 compatible is very docile easy to ride and not very fast I would recommend getting a 600 ish that is A2 compliant it would be easier to ride and more forgiving with a nice wide power band that wouldn't stall easy lol

[@markwatson6244]

Loving the videos, as someone with 30+ years experience of riding, as you mentioned before it is refreshing to share someone’s journey into biking again and the joy and frustration of searching for a bike, especially when you can’t get test rides. One thing I’d remind you of, is that comment of buying a bike with your heart. Until you can afford to keep different bikes for different things e.g commuting, coffee trips, touring, then buy a bike that you can look at and love. Also I’m not sure you should be discounting 900cc plus. At one point I was commuting on a Vespa 125, and Triumph Speed Triple 955i (some time ago). The bigger bike made me feel safer, better braking, ability to get out of situations you didn’t want to be in. More importantly it had more presence on the road which made other road users more aware of me, and treat me with more respect. You are in control of the throttle, so a bigger engine is only as scary as the rider wants it to be. I truly believe that once you get a chance to take a 900+ bike out, of the style you like, you will ignore the concerns of restricting yourself to a 650. There are some great smaller bikes out there now, which weren’t around when I started, but you are a big chap who would have no problem with a heavier bike and your videos so far imply you are sensible enough to handle a bigger bike as well. Buy with your heart… I always have. The only problem that has caused, is the long list of bikes I have owned…….😂😂😂😂

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for this. It’s great advice 👍👍😎

[@laurencefaux6451]

On the point about big bike insurance. The price you pay is a function of the risks related to theft and injury to others. My advice is to buy the bike you want even if its large and then estinate its replacement value lower than you have just paid for it. I would say pick the trade in value you would get in a year (so half your purchase price). This will bring the insurance price down considerably in additon to increasing the surcharge. Clearly you are shouldering some of the cost of the risks occuring and so my advise is don't crash it and don't get it stolen. This is how I kept my premium down from day one. I was 54 at the time with a clean license and max no claims buying a used BMW1200GS costing 9.5k. I valued it at 4.5k for insurance purposes.

[@graemebeattie2404]

Hi Andrew and clair, just recently found your channel, first of all a big congratulations on passing your test, I am 53 years old and had bikes all my adult life , had my full license for over 20 years and have owned many bikes during that time from 125 cc to honda fireblade and everything in between, I take pride in my bikes , I think your channel is brilliant, I have just taken delivery of a second hand Yamaha tracer 900 gt, from Penrith motorcycles, I highly recommend them, as a big guy , i would recommend a test ride on this bike, all the best and ride safe 👍👍👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi

[@fuglbird]

If it's really about boosting your ego, you should buy Claire a nice classical tight leather suit and invite her along. With her riding pilion nobody will notice the bike. My first motorcycle was a 1973 Suzuki GT550 with 50 HP. I used it for commuting and long weekend trips when visiting families but the best times were always with my girlfriend riding pilion on our camping trips through Germany, Switzerland and France to Monaco or Italy. That was in the seventies and eighties. I think 47 HP is more than enough for any reasonable rider with pilion and luggage.

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍😂

[@glynmoores3245]

Just watched your post and you raise some interesting points. I thought I would share my experience with you being a new biker. At the age of nearly 63 I completed my direct access and passed in September this year and like you was unsure of how much bike I could cope with. Long story short I purchased an mt09 with 1400 miles on the clock and yes it’s fast for me but I’ve been riding it in the low power mode and have all the rider aids set to max and I love it. The bigger bike is nicer to ride and just remember what goes fast will go slow 👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

This is good advice, thanks 👍

[@IanSleight-p3r]

Have a look at the honda cb500x

[@advmtngoat]

I've owned my 310GS for 2½ years from new just gone over 16K miles, top end is 90mph. I've green laned the 310 around Wales & the Peak District. 10 day 2200 mile tour with camping every night from Sussex upto Scotland round the NC500 & back to Sussex. Used the bike for commuting for the first year. I regularly ride and stay with bikes 3 & 4 times the cc. I love riding smaller bikes and yes I've previously owned bigger bikes. The nice thing about small cc bikes is you can ride them to they're limit and not lose you're license. Also they're a lot easier to pick up when you drop them ( I fall off a lot, especially off road )

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for this 👍👍

[@TheChrisglasgow]

Go test ride the Triumph scrambler 900/1200. With an after market exhaust you'll love it an your insurance won't be that expensive. I went from a 125 which was £250 a year to a triumph bobber 1200cc which was £270 a year fully comp.

[@MRo55i74]

Had my licence since January and I’ve been quoted £300 for a bobber which is my dream bike and will be buying next to go with my trident 👍

[@goldiejj5331]

Hi mate, just a quick one, when I passed my test, I asked my instructor what size bike I should get, his reply was ‘get as big as you can, you’ll only want something bigger in a months time’ I wasn’t sure if I agreed but I bought a bmw f900r naked bike, a lot like the 310 you rode in the video, and I haven’t looked back since, perfect amount of power and comfortable to ride for commuting, also has different modes for if your riding in rain or dynamic for when you want some speed and has industry leading tech. The key is to buy something you love the look of! P.s loving the videos!

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi. Thanks for watching and have a great evening 👍👍

[@colinevans39]

What a great guy you are you admit to constructive criticism and take it on chin you are both so proud and great people open to constructive criticism 😊😊 and with open minds to change 😊😊

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks so much! 👍👍

[@pete36524]

You’re getting some really good advice and I love that you’re taking a measured approach ( sort of) to this. I’ll leave you with one thought, my daily ride, a Suzuki Vstrom 650 ( some call it a commuter bike) can do 0-60 in 3.8 secs. It doesn’t really matter about cc you can get yourself in a lot of trouble if you’re not that experienced. Try an off road weekend fall off a lot and learn a bit too 🙂

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍👍

[@bikerbuddy3166]

Buy the scrambler 900 ❤ you definitely won’t regret it you will get board very quickly with small capacity bikes no matter what size bike you go for it will only go as fast as you ride it

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍👍

[@mikehallcarpangler4303]

Nice to watch as always both. I’m sure even your instructor would say… little point getting a full licence and then get a circa 300cc, I agree that 650 ish cc is a great “first big bike”, but they’re typically as quick as litre bikes on normal road riding, a 650 will get to 60 just as quick as a 1000. Now Mr Andy 😅, have a good look at a SV650, promise I won’t mention it again 😂

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍 thanks for watching

[@faststeve]

Good luck Andy - great video of course - and Claire kept very quiet 😂😂 - wait till she gets one too though 🎁🥰👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍👍👍👍😎

[@jimmygibson1932]

Hi guys. I think you are spot on with your thoughts now. I am 54 years young, I have been riding since I was 16 and always had a bike of some description. I'm old school in the sense that it was just one bike test, pass or fail, that was it, you've past and here's your licence to go nuts LOL. Like most from the eighties, I progressed from Fizzer 50, RD125 to insane 350 2 strokes and eventually 4 cylinder GS's and Z's, that at the time was the kind of way you went, built up a lot of experience very quickly and learnt a lot the hard way unfortunately :( Obviously a lot has changed, the roads are a lot different for a start, the bikes are crazy advanced and there has never been so much choice. In my honest opinion, I would be looking at a mid range bike, 500 to 700 bracket. Buy something you won't get bored of, something you can own and live with quite happily for couple of years while you are building your experience up and at the same time, the bikes has to deliver pleasure, by that I mean...not boring, you have to have a smile on your face and enjoy the bike, it's more of a relationship LOL. I am now at the stage where I only seem to get real enjoyment out of my own custom bikes. I have always liked to be different and away from the norm. I have always liked the older air cooled BMW boxer engines, but not the bikes they are used in, so I have just taken a crashed damaged R1100R 1994 and built my own version of what I think it should be, I suppose it's a custom street fighter, but I know every nut and bolt and I love it, certainly unique, brings a smile to my face every time I jump on her and I know, it's the only one, there simply isn't another in the whole world like her :) that's what bike are all about for me...maybe in time, this may be a route you go down, no feeling like your own build ! I wish you all the best for your future adventures and I hope the force is with you, Jim, Bonnie Scotland

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi Jim Thanks for sharing

[@NarrowboatAngel]

Love the vlogs guys, you old enough and sensible enough to just have what you want and take it easy, nothing worse than buying a smaller bike and it not being powerful enough to enjoy once you get used to it…and that’s the key you get used to the power very quickly and a small bike won’t be enough 🙈🙈🙈

[@fuglbird]

One thing is worse and that is getting a motorcycle with an engine too powerful for you. It always surprised my how many 100+ HP bikes I see in the UK and then I see the fatality rate: 26 fatalities per 10,000 motorcycles compared to 11 in the EU. Ride safe out there!

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks 👍

[@alem666]

Hello! I had a Honda 400cc dual sport here in Brazil for some time after 5 years on a 125cc. The 125cc easily reached 130km/h and the 400cc was happy at 150km/h. Now I have a Yamaha 250cc and the bike can easily keep up with traffic on the fastest roads at 120km/h (which is the speed limit on the roads). Not everyone likes dual sport bikes, but they tend to be agile, light, relatively economical, comfortable for big/tall people and do well on bumpy roads. It may not be the type of bike for you, but try riding one to get a feel for it. And a piece of advice (if I may) from someone who has been riding for almost 30 years: when the bike starts moving, only touch the clutch lever when changing gears. It's really cool to see a real person's journey starting out in the motorcycle world and sharing their experiences, and it's also great to see the quality of the videos improving too! Thanks for sharing your time and experiences with us. Translated by Google.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hello in Brazil 👍👍

[@ollierai2198]

I did my test 6 years ago, and went with an SV650x to help get my experience up, as this is when the real learning commencing, I've now owned various bikes, sold my car, and have it as my only mode of transport, now I own a R9T Urban GS 1200 and do around 30 to 33k miles a year, my opinion would be buy the style you want, and don't get worried about the CC, just get the miles under your belt in all conditions

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi. Thanks for this

[@marraaman]

I’ve never really been into having a motorcycle but your journey is quite interesting from passing your CBT and now buying a bigger bike👍👍👍👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thankyou for watching 👍👍

[@Omshter66]

I had a Vstrom 650 for a couple of years, then bought a Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro. Keep doing what you're doing, and you'll find your bike 😊

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks, will do!

[@B0ybr14n]

I passed my test 4th January this year. I never bought a 125 to use while i was learning, however it only really took me a month to get all my lessons and test done. I went straight out and bought a 2018 Vstrom 650. At 44 years old with my licence for 4 days my insurance was £310 for the year. Im 6'2 and 'well built'😂. The performance is decent and its a really nice bike to ride. I think youd get bored really quickly on a 310cc. These seem to be the bike if insurance is an issue for you. I see another comment on here stating similar. Ive just had my Insurnace remewal in and for this year is gone down to £180. All the best on your search and thats me subscribed 👍🏽

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for subscribing and taking the time to watch 👍👍👍👍

[@tonyhenson2501]

Hi Mate yes totally agree going from a 125cc to a 300cc - 350cc wont feel any different in the long run and will be under powered for your next biking journey you will get bored with it . waiting with anticipation on your next choice , enjoy your channel Tony from New Zealand

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi from New Zealand 👍👋👋

[@kathryntaylor8926]

Love your honesty! I have a 2024 Street Triple 765 RS and a KTM Duke 390 (373cc). The KTM Duke 390 is an absolute riot!! Riding a smaller cc bike to its full potential is so much fun - more FUN than my Street Triple. 😊

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing!

[@NB1308]

I've loved following your journey- when i took my test in the early 70's it was 10 minutes and a man with a clipboard! The best advice i can give is go for a bike that is big enough for you to feel comfortable on. I'm about your size and find a bigger bike is better balanced for us taller men- just remember the throttle only does what you tell it to!

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍

[@7777btkkk]

Hi mate, 6’3” 135kg rider here - for big and tall riders, I’d say look for bikes with longer wheelbases, as those tend to be more comfortable and have more legroom. Cruiser style bikes, or big sport tourers like the Kawasaki ZZR14 etc (maybe too powerful for a starter but you can look into those eventually). I had a 1200GS, and I found that my legs still felt cramped up on the bike. Tried a cruiser and they fit me quite well with no legroom issues, I currently ride a Thunderbird 1600

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for this 👍👍

[@speedy1812]

I passed my test at 61 years old this year (although have around bikes for decades so it wasn’t new to me). I bought a Suzuki GSX8S. Fabulous bike to start off with, nimble, a reasonable amount but not too much power. Will probably change it next year but a super bike to start with.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing!

[@NickVoaden-p2q]

Bought a390 duke for my first bike after passing my test at 55. It ticked many boxes as I hade two years warranty , she was light and manageable and very forgiving of my novice mistakes. Glad I started off with a little less power tbh and eighteen months on I am now wanting something a bit quicker. It served me well though as I learned more about riding and, finances permitting I’m gonna keep her as it’s so much fun for a b road blast! There is always room for a smaller bike in a blokes garage 👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing

[@richhorton6242]

My wife and I started on a Honda CB300R, we both passed our tests last year. We felt it was a good starting point and a good transition to our Trident 660 and SV650 which we bought in August. Our 300s were definitely not under powered, the Hondas are great little bikes. We are lighter and smaller though, so something to bear in mind. They would do 90mph and pulled quickly and easily out of traffic. I part-ex my 300 for the Trident. My wife still has her 300 for sale in mint condition. Anyway, I’ve really enjoyed following your channel, as it sounds like you just a little behind us in your biker journey, we toured the whole of wales in the summer and had a fab time.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for watching and sharing

[@SH976]

i agree, while i was at the NEC bike show it was only the BMW stand that was helpful and friendly.

[@peter.russell]

Great video. Many, many years ago at 18, I went from a Yamaha RS125 to a Suzuki GS550 having passed my test on my 18th birthday. A big enough jump after 2 years of riding small bikes. You have the advantage of being experienced in terms of road sense but, as others have said, gain some experience on a bike which isn't too powerful. I'd say somewhere between 500 & 750cc would be plenty. Best of luck whatever you decide. All the best, Peter, p.s. Nicky & the Boys say Hi x

[@bikerofatlantis]

Hi Peter, this is sounds advice, Thankyou 👍👍👍 Love to Nicky and boys 🐾

[@thatwellroundedguy9009]

I have 2 royal Enfields 450 Himalayan and the 650 interceptor . Both are amazing bikes. The interceptor is better on the motorway at higher speeds a lot smoother up in the revs and the Himalayan is more comfortable on long journeys. It can sit at 70 mph easily but not as easy as the 650. RE has just launched the 650 Bear it looks fabulous I would really recommend you have a look at that one. Or any RE there after sale service is also fantastic. Good luck from NZ Andy Hall

[@bikerofatlantis]

Nice

[@cliveevans5755]

As per my previous comment in your last video, it’s as much about the dealership experience and how they look after you as it is choice of bike purchase 😊👍🏻

[@bikerofatlantis]

Agree

[@timhaines3044]

Look at the Honda nx500,just bought a new one, 5 days ago,love it. Still on my Ls, more than enough power for new riders. Good luck finding a suitable motorcycle, all the best Tim Melbourne Australia.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing

[@huzzar]

Always remember to have fun!! Himmy or triumph scrambler great suggestions…

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍

[@paulking187]

You came so close to getting to what I think would be the right bike for you, I feel confident in saying the bmw f750/800 would tick every box, so going back for that test ride is definitely a good idea!

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks

[@LEGENDMATTY07_765rs]

Passed my test 3 years ago, Started on a Suzuki s750 to get some miles behind me before going on to Suzuki GSXR750 a year later after my insurance went down. after learning it was tough for me to do long distance riding on a sports bike (A year later), I decided to go to go back to a naked bike , So now I ride a Triumph Street Triple Rs. My advice is just go for what you want! i would at least go for 650cc or above as you done your test on that level, everyday is a learning day after passing your test, 3 years in and i am still learning every time i go out on the bike. ..... Quietly been watching from the start and love watching the videos. Well done on passing first time, endless opportunity's have opened up for you 😃

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍

[@Steven-Brooks]

You have the right idea to get something around the 650cc. I tried a smaller capacity engine and was disappointed. Don’t worry about being nervous trying other bikes. It’s amazing how much more confident you will be as a biker in 12 months time. Just keep at it and ride as much as you can. Try to ride different routes than your commute. Try and ride for a few hours on different roads at a weekend and it will make you more confident. Good luck!

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for the tips!

[@michmark94]

Just a quick comment, I’ve just bought my first bike , spoke to the dealer and he says there is no vat on used bikes, ps I’m 64 and passed my test in September this year, great content, keep up the great work 👍

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for the info!

[@AdrianRogers-q2l]

It's great to see someone presenting his thoughts and sharing them. I'm coming back to biking, 71, done some " rusty rider " courses but still not sure what I want. I'll definitely go with a smaller bhp bike until I know I feel safe. But like other comments made.." ride what makes you happy". I don't think it's ego that you want a big bike, it's excitement at the thought of enjoying the ride. Whatever you choose , stay safe and keep posting. Ade.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for this

[@velox4439]

My First and only bike is a Ninja 650, saw it when i was young and loved it from first sight so i bought one and learned on it, perfect all rounder that i love the look of and plan on keeping it until it stops working

[@bikerofatlantis]

👍👍

[@samking7616]

I’m a very new and inexperienced rider like yourself Don’t be put off by a 900cc or medium engine bikes…. A lot of the newer models in the mid range have different riding modes which restrict throttle response and power. Like yourself I considered a smaller engine however once I test rode a 900 in “rain” mode I loved how forgiving it was, it felt like my 650 I did my test on. My forward thinking was ride around in “rain” mode for 6 months or so, then as I get more experience I can alter through the riding modes and it will feel like a new bike all over again so I don’t have to change in a year or so There’s 5 different riding modes in total) and also to mention, the MT09 (the bike I bought) has traction control and anti lift modes which you can turn to maximum to help reduce the chance of a mistake. 👍🏻 Love the channel, excited to see what you end up getting 👌🏻

[@freelanderblues]

I currently ride GSA 1250 and have three much older BMW's ranging in capacity, however go to bike is the Yamaha Tenere 700, does everything, long/short and commutes very well , Great videos.

[@bikerofatlantis]

Thanks for sharing