Did NASCAR Redeem the IMS Road Course?

[@naparacingfan9275]

2 hours 9 minutes and 58 seconds is very quick for a cup race. About as quick as 2021 Watkins Glen was.

[@Nemofishman]

59 seconds less, and if this happens next week, could be a sub 2-hour race, since the Glen is a much faster track.

[@iDAV8]

Cup races on road courses should be 300 mile events imo

[@BrownsburgKevin]

2nd worst Cup race, after the tire debacle race.

[@samharris3508]

​@@BrownsburgKevinhow so?

[@coreydensmore2355]

Wish they were all 2 hours long

[@jackbloomer919]

My Dad had a wild thought earlier today. What if we had a doubleheader NASCAR weekend? Run the Cup Series on the Road Course (200 miles) on Saturday and then the oval (400 miles) on Sunday. Might be an interesting way to have both

[@brandonpoveromo2741]

I had the idea of indy RC in May, then oval in August

[@johnhaas2523]

That's still requires a 2nd date And where's that date coming from?

[@nomadman5288]

The Auto Club date that's going to be open. That's if they wanted to do that.

[@daltonolive484]

It wouldn't be possible to logistically to run both in one weekend with setting up the track

[@nomadman5288]

That's been suggested before. Apparently the issue is with the track set up change between the events.

[@ShinyShinyBlack]

I lol’d at Dale Jr. during the broadcast saying the Stenhouse only needed to hit “three or four more to get them all”. 😂😂😂

[@Dupontman627]

Michael McDowell winning shows how much Front Row has came

[@JohnSmith-mk5jt]

🤨

[@jebediahgentry7029]

😂😂

[@trent7736]

How far*

[@patrickracer43]

The pass SVG made on Kyle Larson was basically Kyle Larson getting passed by kiwi Kyle Larson

[@naparacingfan9275]

Today was the best cup race on the Indy RC out of the 3. No chaos, no stage cautions allowing strategy, and no dumb restarts helped make this race great. I still think they should return to the oval but would be ok with Indy RC. Maybe Indy RC/Oval cup doubleheader is possible?

[@castandblast1852]

I liked it better when nascar ran just 2 road courses.

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

Nope not a possibility. If anything I would rather have IMSA at Indy before the NASCAR weekend at Indy since they already have a weekend at Indy and could get people from Indianapolis to actually go to the Cup race anyways.

[@DeezNutz-j7d]

Indycar is going to Milwaukee instead next year.

[@PaperBanjo64]

​@castandblast1852 I like road courses but real road courses not this dumb roval, it could be anywhere, a parking lot, Daytona and Charlotte have much better rovals.

[@metronorthfoamer4085]

When they bring the Brickyard back, it should play out as naturally as possible, no gimmicks. 160 laps, no stage cautions (keep stages for scoring purposes), 100% strategy, and a good racing package.

[@AngryKirbyHatesYou]

They're not gonna run the brickyard with no stages if they wont even run Daytona without them. The only reason they took them away from road courses is it absolutely killed the strategy

[@metronorthfoamer4085]

@@AngryKirbyHatesYoustages themselves are fine, it's the cautions that are the problem

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

I’m glad to hear that the IMS RC today for Cup was actually good. When the Brickyard 400 returns and they don’t use the RC anymore, at least this year’s race ended on a good note after 2 embarrassing years.

[@miketwotwenty]

2021 was crazy with the curb problems at least these last two years didn’t have any curb issues!

[@adamalfredsson373]

@@miketwotwenty2021 was an embarrassment, period.

[@mlgordita]

Well stated on how the race felt. I think we ditch the stage cautions for the ovals and on top of on-the-fly points awards, take a bonus playoff point on for most laps led. Take an idea of old and pair it with the new system of things.

[@IceCar420]

The race was completely awesome. For anyone that doesn't like the race they just don't like Nascar on any road course. 9.5/10 for today's Nascar race.

[@lazier96]

NASCAR had their day at IMS but with the resurgence of IndyCar and the Indy 500 the Brickyard will never be as popular as it once was no matter how it is promoted. The race is a money maker for IMS but the optics of empty stands for a major NASCAR race are not good for TV and the sponsors. NASCAR has a challenge on their hands.

[@michaeljensen1817]

I'd be totally fine with 2 dates at indy. indy g.p. in may with the indycars, have xfinity and trucks at irp with the sprints, midgets, silver crown, etc. And then the brickyard 400 at end of summer, with xfinity on the oval as well. The question is, would indycar purists hate having another division on track in may?

[@EngMadison]

Brickyard 400 without stage yellows. Keep a crossover weekend and have two of them. One at a road course like Road America where Indycar gets the Sunday time slot. The other at an oval where NASCAR gets the sunday slot.

[@parker838]

The compromise I would make would be to have trucks at IRP. Xfinity does the road course, and the cup series gets to run the oval since its the most prestige in terms of the three series. I feel like then its fair for each series and you get a race on theee different tracks so there's something for everyone

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

They pretty much did that in 2020 like David said.

[@jamesminor9890]

Xfinty af irp to that car on short track be great and bring back the traditional nascar weekend in indy

[@shredhead4604]

Lands right about TV money and besides Nascar how do you think we had an Indy 500 and a purse in August the first year of Covid with no fans in the stands. TV money. Was a great race weekend on TV at least ;) Great coverage this weekend Land! Miller would be proud.🤙🏎️🏁🇺🇸🤘

[@mintoxace5571]

Kostecki was very quick but struggled with coming from the back of the pack. He got up into the top 20 before his pit stop and then made it back to 22 which isn’t bad from 39th.

[@GrandpaShark]

Yes. I was bummed that he wrecked in quali.

[@tylerhernandez5234]

I'm going to be honest, from what i saw, there was a few Indycar fans stay for Sunday, but there was a lot of NASCAR fans at the Indycar race yesterday. I don't think that the Indycar fans enjoy NASCAR, and this double header isn't doing much. At least the oval felt more important, but is almost just like another race from the drivers opinions

[@rufusjack666]

Bring back the Brickyard 400. Please.

[@NutZachs]

Crazy how both Indycar and Cup could've had a different result if lapped traffic moved sooner. Pretty much every race this weekend was good and didn't have any real BS screwing it up.

[@GrandpaShark]

Congrats to Michael McDowell. He was the best driver today. And Joey Logano was the worst. Runs Haley into the tire barrier to bring out the only caution. Then on the restart, pulls the same move as last year. Drive full throttle into turn 1 & bang off another car to make the corner. If I was Blaney, I'd be pissed at my "teammate".

[@mattomon1045]

I think the stage breaks ( caution. ) needs to be eliminated in all of the races ! so it can put the pit crues back in to the out come of the race!

[@jimbosc]

It is worth considering it for some ovals. All plate tracks (fewer cautions is better given the massive wrecks that occur) including Atlanta. I would like it go away for crown jewel events as well. The 600 at Charlotte, the Southern 500 and the Brickyard 400 if it returns. Probably Pocono as well since it is essentially a road course when it comes to pit strategy.

[@tensor120]

Would have had a better race if it was on the oval

[@TheFamemonster31]

I believe to make next years Brickyard special. You remove stage cautions from both Daytona and the Brickyard to make them both unique formats

[@johnthefalcon2903]

Who would have thought that NASCAR would have fewer caution laps than Indycar? It was good weekend of racing! Best Brickyard double header weekend, since they started the Brickyard double header weekend (21 was pretty good, 22 wasn't terrible, 20 was weird).

[@DeezNutz-j7d]

Because Indycar race control is clueless and takes forever. The 7-8 lap caution easily should have been 3-4 laps.

[@johnthefalcon2903]

@user-xc6uy8cw1x I know. It was a fairly big wreck, but they still took too long getting it cleaned up.

[@horsefly1020]

The road course is ok but not great here. I would love to see them go to road Atlanta... thats a bad ass courae.

[@zorndeslammes]

To your greater point re: the local and national media: NASCAR has taken a significant hit in interest in the US since peaking in 2005. I'm not interested in arguing the why/why not specific to that now (it is very complex and multifaceted) but simply put, what it meant in 1994 is no longer what it means today. In some ways, going back to the Brickyard 400 is a move to speak to nostalgia not for the 60s or 70s but the 90s when NASCAR was red hot. It's really meant for people like me from the late 30s-early 50s to make us all perk up and go "Ah, NASCAR is doing something I recognize again instead of something I don't!" At least that is my interpretation. I actually left the track Saturday (I'm one of the people who didn't come back; tickets were even cheaper on secondary market Sunday vs. Saturday) thinking I'll really miss the doubleheader weekend when it goes away even though that's happening because Milwaukee is returning and I'll be attending that race.

[@AWSgraphics]

This being the 2nd NASCAR race I've ever watched. THIS WAS SOME BORING SHIT. Not sure I could stay awake for an actual oval race.

[@markc3456]

Road course or oval, NASCAR at Indy just isn't that great. They should just remove it and go back to Road America where the fans packed the place.

[@reecox0002]

7:10 Brodie Kostecki had a brilliant run. They rolled the dice on lap 67, pitting from 17th, betting on the 8 car blowing up on track. Without the extra stop they could have ended up 14th. Regardless 1st cup start, starting rear in the backup car and finishing on the lead lap is outstanding. Stayed out of trouble unlike the 17 cars that finished behind them.

[@frankfarms83]

Here’s my problem…… with not just Indy but nascar as a whole…. Everything is so forced down our throat and unauthentic about everything in the sport….. there’s no hype, there’s no true excitement…… nascar just pushes a plate of polished shit infront of everyone and says here…. Enjoy this…… and I really struggle with that…. I did enjoy tho that today felt like a traditional race though

[@ElliottNest41]

It’s a bit expensive to attend both days if you get good seats.

[@III-jj8qk]

Indy has no race fans, it is a joke now for anything outside the 500, just move it to RA where people show. Or make penske renovate IRP.

[@walletracer9882]

Tired of all the smoothbrains complaining about a lack of cautions. The race was exciting from start to finish with action through the field. Was my favorite race since the Chicago street race.

[@NASCARFAN93100]

This was the best Cup Race on the Indy Road Course With that being said I hope the Brickyard 400 returns next season

[@andrewvillegas7747]

Nascar on the Oval was boring and ticket sales were low

[@NASCARFAN93100]

@@andrewvillegas7747 NASCAR has yet to race on the oval with the Gen 7 car

[@andrewvillegas7747]

@NASCARFAN93100 Nascar is trying to move more in the direction of more road course racing like international series with the new cup car so it wouldn't really make sense to go back to the oval

[@NASCARFAN93100]

@@andrewvillegas7747 It's a crown jewel event and besides I've seen plenty of fans asking for the Oval to return

[@andrewvillegas7747]

@NASCARFAN93100 I see alot of people asking too and maybe they try it again but in my opinion it will be boring 😴 and doesn't line up with where I feel nascar is trying to take the sport

[@silentowlscribe]

It was a decent race. Glad there wasn't lots of cautions and wrecks. The best car won. Time to move the race full time to the oval. Besides sportcars and F1, Indy is about the oval. Think these cars can produce a good product next year on the oval

[@unionmaster]

I was never a fan of bringing back the Indy oval but with no stage cautions I've changed my mind, these road courses have been a drag. I say either stage cautions at road courses, or don't bother with right turns tbh, I can watch f1 if I want to watch a parade.

[@justincollins6876]

Everyone seems to think it's one or the other whether it's oval or rc. They could run both. Probably the only thing holding that back is it's not a Nascar owned track.

[@your_boywife]

i think its irresponsible to say that nascars crowd should be just as enthusiastic as indycar in indycars backyard. sure the event was as prestigious as the 500, but that was while indycar was fighting it own war. now that indycar is united, nascar needs to find own crown jewel identity, and actively work tk maintain it. they let the jewel get cobwebs and dust and now its time to get back to cleaning it, but itll never get back to its 100% original state

[@Ghettocowboy33]

Extremely clean race and love it!

[@GrandpaShark]

Ricky-diculous. I had to laugh!

[@ElliottNest41]

I prefer the road course, but I’ll continue to watch either way. Not a fan of the multiple GWCs that occurred on the oval in the recent past.

[@jimbosc]

I thought it was a good race - a bit of chaos early - then a long green flag run to the checker. There was racing through the field - still hard to pass in these cars on road courses - but the lead 3 kept it close and interesting throughout. I am a little bit wondering why the Chevy cars ahead of the 9 were not ordered to get out of the way by somebody at GM so the 9 had a clean track to try and close on the 34. Probably doesn't change the result but it might have forced one of the two cars into a big error to make that last few laps more interesting.

[@reggiedodson3353]

It shows that people AR not interested for whatever reason advertisement they have to get their advertisement up. It's hard to understand why more people or not coming to a great event for IndyCar and NASCAR if both series together can't draw that attention to what are we going to do! 14:42

[@gagemcpherson1956]

Cup needs to go back to the oval Indycar needs to replace this date with either Milwaukee or Michigan

[@jsembler1]

I know it's far-fetched, but somehow getting more Indy Car drivers to compete in the Brickyard 400. A guy like Newgarden or Scottie Mac might draw in some more open wheel fans.

[@jimdugan3466]

A win on indy road course is not prestigious, a win on the oval is prestigious!

[@PaperBanjo64]

Agreed, and that's because the Indy road course barely uses the oval, a good roval like Charlotte or Daytona has most of the oval.

[@mvdbutler]

NO BRING THE IMS OVAL NASCAR WE DON'T NEED A ANOTHER IMS ROAD COURSE RACE FOR THE CUP SERIES

[@CheetahLynx]

If the Brickyard 400 comes back they should have the IndyCar/NASCAR doubleheader at Michigan.

[@NASCAR_Diecast_Addict]

I think the oval needs to come back. Be interesting to see the Next Gen cars perform on the oval.

[@AXXeYY]

Good point!! This was more like racing in generall in a good way!!

[@DrDiff952]

NASCAR should not run on the road course of IMS!

[@bearmarsh6579]

It's always great to see a small team winning and making the playoffs...Congrats Michael and Front Row Motorsports. Road course vs Oval i would like see the Oval come back.

[@ILSRWY4]

you are clearly a nascar fan

[@bearmarsh6579]

Yes i am but not just Nascar all of racing.

[@dawsonbedwell8206]

I met Kamikazegames here at indy very surprised lol I was wearing the same shirt as you and get alot of looks 😂

[@mrbungle3310]

No stage cautions made me rewatch the race because i missed it...i hate stages

[@renatonomicon]

Why not a road course race in May with the Indy GP and the Brickyard 400 in August with no doubleheader

[@johnhaas2523]

Because Indianapolis is not getting a second date

[@FlyersinHD]

I love the Indycar/NASCAR doubleheader. My dream is that they bin the May Indy RC and keep the August one on the shared weekend (How long does RC->Oval change over take?). Makes the trip out here so much more worth it. If the doubleheader weekend goes into the bin, what's your recommendation (excluding the 500) where I should go to see IndyCar next season?

[@johnhaas2523]

Where is the second Indianapolis date coming from?

[@FlyersinHD]

@@johnhaas2523 Supposedly headed to Milwaukee

[@jamesbraun9842]

Watkins Glen would also be good. Indy could run the boot and Nascae run the shorr course.

[@binglamb2176]

Who thought this was a boring race? It was a great.

[@cyberandrewofficial]

Anything that gets Michael McDowell in victory lane I’ll support 😂

[@redknightsr69]

I have nothing to complain about from today's race aside from certain drivers not showing up

[@ILSRWY4]

David, I ask you again "WHY DO YOU WANT NASCAR TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT INDY? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE? Because Nascar certainly doesn't give a rats ass two cents worth if Indycar is successful... especially AT THEIR TRACKS. in case you all forgot, Nascar is Indycar's biggest competition for the North American market. Why then would anyone other than a Nascar fan be satisficed with Nascar running the oval for prestige , they want to run the R.C. fine, maybe tolerate the road course. But Nascar has no god-damn business being on the oval. its Old its out dated and its a tired conversation.

[@jebediahgentry7029]

Now we need to get rid of stage cautions at ovals

[@Twinspinner]

I'd love if Cup could run both the RC and the oval, but considering it would have to be at the expense of a race at another track, I'll take just the oval

[@chrisbrazil7182]

You call that a good race !? Okay.

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

I don’t think it’s a good idea to switch the 400 one year and the road course the next year and just flip flop every year. People care more about the 400 more than the road course. The oval is iconic. The IMS road course is just a random road course that’s just boring. I mean granted today was the best Cup IMS RC race from the looks of it, but I’m all for the Indy Oval for IndyCar (for the 500) and NASCAR. For Xfinity, I think they should be on the road course during the Month of May as a support race for IndyCar and race on the oval later on.

[@Man_in_BLKtruck1991]

As someone that’s lost both of my local oval tracks (Indy and Chicagoland) I will make sure that I attend a Brickyard oval race if it returns. Also NASCAR BRING BACK CHICAGOLAND!!!!!

[@SPD0017]

Why is alternating layouts such a problem? NASCAR isn't IndyCar, and IndyCar never should've run two infield races at IMS to begin with. NASCAR alternating layouts is the IDEAL. The oval needs to be special to INDYCAR. If other series want to run the road course, this needs to be encouraged. There is no excuse for IMS to be night race capable on either configuration. We need a 24hr race there! NASCAR alternating is GOOD!

[@avflashback8913]

The Indy road course has never been prestigious in my opinion. I think it's the worst "Roval" in the USA. The road layout isn't good. Iowa and Homestead are way better Road courses. The F1 races at Indy in the 2000's were crap. It's just "Indy" marketing that keep the this road course alive. There are so many good Street & Road courses in the USA and they pick Indy RC??? How do you do that???

[@charlielightbody6233]

I hope they stay on the road course

[@MisledVision]

Does Indianapolis simply not care about NASCAR? Thats why ive never cared if Indy got dropped all together. The Brickyard 400 just isnt as prestigious as people make it out to be. NASCAR wanted to leech off the success Indycar had at Indy but to me it just never translated. Its not a good stock car track.

[@d00dEEE]

McDowell's daughter perfecting her checkered flag technique on the podium behind David is great!

[@LeMassiveNoob]

Came out with a big "meh" after this tbh. Maybe I just got spoiled by the last two races, but considering this race is close to the end of playoffs and the amount of international talent, I was slightly underwhelmed. Clean races can be good, but the lack of overtakes wad disappointing. Happy for McDowell and Front Row though.

[@MrAndyNich]

As an Indiana native I would rather see the Brickyard 400 oval race but it could be cool if they could still run the road course like a mid week event maybe if that's possible. The drivers would probably covet an oval win there more. It was fun watxhing McDowell win though. Nice to see majority of field salute to him after the win.

[@unionmaster]

14:25 I've literally already can't remember anything but the finish and AJ cleaning out Kobayashi

[@zachwalentiny]

Trucks and Xfinity should both run IRP and Cup should return to the Indy oval. Even though today's race was decent, it is still the worst road course on the Cup schedule. The course is not really designed for stock cars, it is designed for Indycar and F1.

[@racermac1988]

All I got out this is that Xfinity should be at IRP. 🤷

[@jamesminor9890]

Few things one for nascar to have what they think is a good crowd I would make sure trun 4 down the front stretch to trun 1 is sold out 3 and 2 half full or so be okay. I also think if they open up the infield inside 3 and 4 for rv camping might help cuz thar big part of Nascar experience and if so have option for those fan that buy that go site in the pit grandstand , onto the race itself date need go back to 1st weekend of August , make it a 1 pm start time. On track stuff not go hitva home run every race I know there been plenty of indy500 that didn't give excitement but that part of racing long as the bast car wins that what matters

[@DeezNutz-j7d]

I go to this race weekend and the Xfinity race typically has less fans than the Indycar race. This year, it was way less. There are two reasons: one, was definitely the threat of weather as David said, the other was the start time. 5:30pm is ridiculously late. We left because we saw weather coming and figured if there are going to be red flags, it would get too late and it might be an official race after 30 laps and wasn’t worth staying. They got the entire race in, but for us it wasn’t worth the risk. Just head out and come back the next day for the Cup race that had a decent start time.

[@nomadman5288]

Testing with out the splitter or without the diffuser?

[@syaieya]

Going up there the last two years I will say that if you are not a fan of road course racing, this sort of event won't draw you in. Nascar managed to have an Xfinity race with a pop up rain shower, rain tires able to go on cars, and nothing about that made it into the highlights. The things that make these races interesting are not what they know what to do with. But overall, as a fan experience for someone who likes both circle track and road course racing, this is a good, comfortable weekend on the schedule. Both times I have left this event pleased, but I still lament the lacking of top level circle track racing in the area outside of the 500 proper. Being said, I don't think that Nascar on the big track is the solution to that.

[@brandensimmons653]

Looking at it after watching the whole Race this is enjoyable no crash fest thank God so I'm torn between keeping the RC and bringing back the oval

[@marklittle8805]

The local media is like all old school media. Out of touch. The races at IMS are something this city never takes for granted. I was there this last weekend and IMS is a jewel. No matter whether they run the oval or road course it is Indy. The joint oozes history

[@anthony0358]

I love your channel but I feel you are showing some inconsistency. You have consistently said that if we are at Indy we need to turn left otherwise we don’t need to be here. I want this race back on the oval for NASCAR

[@tedzehnder961]

The "bump and runs" at the 90 degree turns are getting obvious( no brake lock ups even).There were a handful that should have been made "stop and go" penalties and this would cut down on yellow flags even more in future races.I really am surprised at the lack of race stoppages and this made the race overall watchable. Kudos to the track officials and to the drivers that decided to suck it up and not stop in the racing line after being "crashed" into.

[@hydro_rebel7741]

I like the road course races but the brickyard for me is like the daytona 500. A big crown jewel. I'm upset they replaced it with the road course.

[@josephrocco2954]

Auto racing should always be a spectacle. Nascar doesn't need Indy and vice versa.

[@SN-nh6pq]

Oval is back

[@boodew-dp5jn]

The attendance for today's race answers a lot of questions.

[@nolancanada7775]

David I think you meant that this race was a nice, healthy HelloFresh meal.

[@stamkos33]

I thought the race was great ! They should just have races on both the oval and the road course like Indycar does.

[@jamesriley9800]

Cup needs to be on the oval and I still think Indycar and Cup need to do a double weekend it needs to be at Cota, the Glen, or maybe even Richmond

[@alistairarchibald1312]

oh where oh where did my little Dave go? oh where oh where could he be? it'z the best motorsports coverage on the internet now but he decides to deprive us of thee

[@stevenkilsdonk2046]

Watching the race in person and focusing on SVG specifically, he lost a lot of time when he and Bell stuck it out for 8-10 more laps than the other leaders on the first stint. At the end it was six seconds from 5th to Shane in 9th. He just spent half the race within a few seconds of CBell's rear bumper and could never get by.

[@nomadman5288]

He lost a couple seconds on each pit stop too. That probably cost him 2-3 spots for sure.

[@mintoxace5571]

Yea and Marks confirmed SVG had engine issues all race but still ended up 10th.

[@stevenkilsdonk2046]

@@nomadman5288 part of it is I don't think they had the speed limit lights as refined as some other teams; SVG said he followed the RPM lights on the pace lap pass-through the pits and Bowman was bumping into him from behind. So that was costing him a little time by not pushing the speed limit to the max.

[@stevenkilsdonk2046]

@@mintoxace5571 Shane did say on the radio that the throttle was sticking about 10% open so I wonder if that's what Justin was referring to or something more than that.

[@jonnomarko7072]

I think SVG did a great job ...... he got the opportunity to observe up close many of the Cup contenders & P10 for his efforts. If SVG was competing for the Cup points I am certain he would have forced his way past Bell as Bell was leaving Pit lane .... If SVG was chasing Cup points he may have finished higher ..... right now it is a learning curve for him.

[@HunterDrone12]

3 day event Friday qualifying for road course Saturday road course race Sunday: brickyard 400 with the starting position determined by the road course.

[@johnhaas2523]

Indianapolis is never getting a second date

[@ryancox530]

I would like xfinity at irp

[@johnhaas2523]

Maybe in 2025 when CW takes over.

[@blueflags599]

There should be a double header road course on Saturday and oval on Sunday

[@johnlancer6033]

Nascar sucks they shouldn't even be there the end.

[@roymcdre9180]

The 1st race was a shit show, so whyyyy wait so long to change the restart zone

[@happywrenching33]

Good info David. Well done. Thank you.

[@kg0173]

Never liked the Indy road course idea in any series.

[@davewhittles]

maybe they could run half the race on the road and half on the oval

[@runrafarunthebestintheworld]

No