Did Nikon Just Unlock Red's Color Science For Free?!

[@itsjoetorres930]

This is exactly what I was waiting for before jumping to Nikon! Let’s f***ing gooooooo

[@tomdchi12]

Are they perfect? No. Are these a solid tool to tell your story well? Absolutely. Very cool to see Nikon coming back!

[@krelovfranklin]

Wearing an Alpha and talking about Red and Nikon. What a free world...

[@DigiFilmInstitute]

TOTALLY LUV IT!!! Watching Brandon talk 'bout RED & Nikon while wearing an Alpha tee. Is this a "read between the lines moment"? LOL!!!! Saved the best for last! BOSS move!

[@sidvicious3129]

Brandon, Sony just dropped Shutter Angle this morning for Fx3 and the Fx30!!!

[@andersistbesser]

My old gh5 from 2018 is laughing about sony adding something what is in lumix cameras since 2014🤣

[@brian.zukowski]

@@andersistbesser I love that the GH5 was ahead of its time and STILL is. It's why I still haven't sold it even though its a C-cam at this point. lol

[@asdstudiofilm]

and this will not make them shoot better)))

[@sidvicious3129]

@@andersistbesser Yeah, Sony is truly late to the party here, and my Blackmagic has had it since day one, but I’m happy to just have it at this point.

[@TylerEdwards]

Rec2020 is the limiting factor I think with the Nikons. When they can’t tune the sensors for r3d and RWG/l3G10, the Nikons will be amazing b-cams. The LUTs are a fairly close match, but definitely require some finessing to get them matching. I’m noticing highlights and some colors (especially green) that need some tweaking to match.

[@GamutLUTs]

they match 100% if you just use a CST from Nikon to Red and then add the RED Luts these were based off of. You will have an accurate middle gray value without highlight clipping. It looks like the Nikon LUTs didn't account for the different exposure variance for N-Log compared to REDLog3G10 which is probably why you see some issues with the Highlights for the most part.

[@TylerEdwards]

⁠@@GamutLUTscan confirm they get REALLY close with CST, but it’s not 100%. Some work is still needed as CST isn’t a magic bullet, but CST is what I’ve done in a few projects to get them to match though!

[@stigfloberghagenphotography]

Nice 🙂👍

[@phfx]

Glad you like them!

[@evanthecameraman]

Very close. Look at 02:10 when you are jumping off the barrier. The red wall paint and red "RIP" graffiti looks and looks orange/red on the Komodo (left) and pinkish/red on the Nikon (right). Definitely fixable but shows it still needs a bit of love.

[@michaelmalodrums9674]

I’m still hoping they find a way to offer the R 3D raw or a flavour of that to see what that Z 8 sensor is capable of ! One can only hope ! Great video ! Thanks 🙏🏻

[@topicruben]

They look awesome! Thanks, man

[@ThomazMartinez]

When i start seeing their picture profiles that is in JPEG then I'm sold

[@marqman05]

I might have missed it but did you label which videos were shot on which camera?

[@bwashmedia]

No did that on purpose. Can you tell what’s what and how does that effect your opinion?

[@marqman05]

@@bwashmedia On the last video I want to say the top one is the RED camera. It doesn't really effect my opinion because I already have a Z8, I just wanted to see how well it handles against cinema cameras. Either way great video and thank you for the videos you produce.

[@hunterhawkins8754]

@@bwashmedia It wouldve been helpful to know objectively which is which so we can actually take note. Assuming the wider frame is the Nikon since its full frame?

[@deadpool6072]

One is Super 35. It should be pretty obvious to tell.

[@PastorCory]

I’m sorry I was too busy looking at the murals on the wall(Texas stand up), yay luts!

[@africah_beauty]

impressive❤❤❤

[@sixsixvisuals]

I need to see the work flow to apply them. Because mine don’t look anything like that when I apply them to my z6iii footage. Actually my FX6 phantom LUTs work better on my Nikon footage than the RED LUTs do

[@joshkiddfilms1295]

Hope we get them in camera. Next logical step

[@NicollasVerneck]

did the whitebalance got matched? I can see a huge difference in greens , red a nd blues. one looked more warm than the other so I'm assuming white balanced wasn't calibrated

[@joshblck1]

I was actually pretty impressed by how good the Nikon footage looked next to the RED. Not a huge difference IMO.

[@JojoJoget]

CSTs have existed prior, also you need to use a color card to see if its close enough

[@pacovazquez4853]

Hey Brandon: Does the lots work with the XH2S?

[@NickZentena]

Do you think the technical LUT is better than the builtin automatic Nlog conversion in Resolve colour managed? Doesn't force you into 709 either.

[@GamutLUTs]

The technical LUT is better than the other N-Log LUTs previously released but the CST looks better in my opinion and better highlight rolloff.

[@JojoJoget]

Davinci’s workflow is likely better than some lut

[@RafalGendarz]

Is the talking head video shoot on komodo?

[@bwashmedia]

No z8

[@RafalGendarz]

@@bwashmediawould like to see comparision

[@andrewhoulihan7940]

One question. In order for these to work with my Nikon Zf do I need an external monitor? Can anybody help me out with this question. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪 I wouldn’t be the most tech savvy 🙈

[@bwashmedia]

No, you can apply them in your editor. But if you are trying to see them while recording video then yes you will need a monitor that has lut support.

[@andrewhoulihan7940]

@@bwashmedia thank you so much!!! 😊 I get it a bit more now.

[@losmalqueridos2009]

I’ve been thinking, and my theory’s been proven: you don’t need a fancy RED camera or high-end gear to get the look you want. Just some good luts that delivers great colors. It’s crazy how some companies sabotage themselves by proving it's easy to get the looks we like with luts vs. a cameras color science. I do know different cameras serve different purposes, and RED cameras are amazing. But for regular folks like me, I just want the color science and look we see on KZbin or from our favorite creators. My dream camera is simple: a small, Komodo -style camera-something like RED Komodo X but affordable-that lets you swap lenses, has great battery life, and captures RAW & Baked in looks. Imagine a camera with built-in film simulations like Fujifilm, or popular looks like teal and orange & others. You could shoot with ease, and it’d have everything built in-mic, autofocus, SD or Express Type B for higher codecs, all the basics.

[@FukemStudios]

I agree with you!

[@RafalGendarz]

i am wondering if z8 has this digital look which is very much present in the sony cameras, or it look just like komodo if the dr is the same

[@losmalqueridos2009]

@@RafalGendarz He just made a video discussing the RED Komodo X. I'm assuming the footage is from the Nikon camera with RED lut & it looks better than the RED Komodo X footage. That's just my subjective opinion though. I don't own either & not looking to buy either one. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@RafalGendarz]

@@losmalqueridos2009 I had Blackmagic and Sony a7iv and Komodo looks better. Wondering about this z8

[@krelovfranklin]

Wait, no D850?

[@andersistbesser]

The image looks very different but colors are very similar indeed.

[@anotherintrospekt6596]

🤔

[@TJIzzy]

Nlog isn't very flat, looks like regular clog1

[@TheLinesEnd]

I’m sure RED is like “why couldn’t we have been bought by Sony so we could have good video autofocus?”

[@peterra2532]

Because they don't want a lot of noise reduction apply on their camera

[@melaninxhalide1165]

Wearing a Sony Alpha sweatshirt while talking about Nikon cameras is diabolical work.

[@nes.torfernandez]

Sorry and nothing personal against the KZbin community, but aren't some people getting a bit annoying by suddenly seeing their KZbinrs m that they follow for specific brands or cameras posting about a brand that they never even mentioned on their channel? It's almost like they are trying to get Nikon's attention now that they own the ball and not RED. I don't know, just my thoughts.

[@bwashmedia]

I can totally see how you could think that. I typically try to stay camera neutral, but obviously i have a bias to Red. I hope the information is at least helpful. Also I can only speak for myself here but I do have a relationship with Red and Nikon separately, but it is most important for me to be truthful and clear in all my content. Hope this makes sense.

[@nes.torfernandez]

@@bwashmedia Nothing personal, like I said before, but I do enjoy your channel as well as Carlos's and Scott's because I appreciate the technicality and dynamics. I was driving home from a shoot and saw your video and Scott’s about the Nikon LUTs. Also, since Scott is very active in the RED FB group, i believe we all have seen him almost aggressively defending RED. And now, Nikon bruh, a guy who would tell you that RED is the only camera worth anything in the industry is now advocating for a brand that, a year ago, wasn’t even on the industry's radar for anything other than some fine glass and the specific community of robotic arms and such. Not saying this is you as well but I guess as a big YT consumer am being overwhelmed about the whole Nikon RED thing hahaha But let’s see what the future brings us.

[@DreamReleases]

And couldn't one simply put the LUTs in any camera that accepts and uses them, ie Panasonic, Canon, etc? If not at the moment, they will soon be. One can install LUTs in Canon cinema cameras including the c70, R5mkII, and of course Panasonics. Nothing prevents anyone from installing the same RED/Nikon LUTs in another device. If the goal is to sync the "Look" across platforms. We shall see in a few hours if we can shoot that "famous" color science (Look) on any platform that accepts the LUTs

[@GamutLUTs]

True. You can just take the Rec709 RED Creative LUTs that these were based off and just do a Color Space Transform in Resolve from a different camera to REDLog3G10 and then add the LUTs. They will all look the same as long as the color space transform is correct for that sensor. That looks like what they actually did for these Nikon LUTs.

[@shadyninja1]

I thought you were a Sony shooter and not Nikon.🎉

[@bwashmedia]

Honestly I shoot whatever. But currently I own 2 canons, 2 Nikons, and 2 reds

[@shadyninja1]

@@bwashmedia if I changed my camera at the of KZbinrs, I'll be bankrupt. I have a Z6 with 7 Nikon lenses 3 speed lights and three studio lights

[@bwashmedia]

@@shadyninja1 lol no one should. Well, yes, I do productions, KZbin is kind of likely a second job. And for that job, we act more like journalist. So it’s kind of our jobs to be well-versed in different cameras so we can make better content. No one should buy cameras like KZbinrs except other KZbinrs maybe lol.

[@shadyninja1]

@@bwashmedia thanks for the reality chat

[@MocFilmmaker]

This is inaccurate way to test the LUT. On RED Komodo you're using Canon RF, in Nikon you're using Nikkor lenses. Different lenses, different color rendition.

[@jukpulfer]

then again we are also talking about two wholly different camera systems that dont even share sensor size, so by that logic, even with the same lens, it would be an inaccurate comparison due to the performance differences of the lens

[@RoadFromNowhere_SE01]

I’m sure as long as you don’t step outside of the 10 stops of dynamic range the Nikon has, the LUT will look pretty good

[@chrisjenkins9978]

Not for free, for $80 million dollars.

[@EricLouisYoung]

nikon is still stuck in the stone ages. they give you the luts as a .exe file. Thanks Nikon (from linux)

[@bwashmedia]

Mine were cube files