Did Sauron Ever Consider Releasing Melkor From The Void?

#lotr #middleearth #morgoth

[@Civtex]

I don’t think he considered it,he can’t…that is a different level of divinity that Sauron cannot touch

[@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahweh]

Эру илуватар это Моргот бауглир

[@informedconsumer5293]

@@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahweh Everyone knows you're a demon, you're not fooling anyone

[@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahweh]

​@@informedconsumer5293haha, that was funny))

[@Leone7788-j4i]

​@@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahwehsays who?

[@danielpaulmann4799]

He was not offered a chance to repent by the Valar. He asked for one from Eonwe but since Eonwe was a mere maiar he could not guarantee that Saurons life would be spared. Thats why he chose not to risk it. Reasonable. After the Valar got burned once by pardoning Melkor, they were perhaps not so merciful anymore. Perhaps Sauron could have been redeemed. He was just as evil as Morgoth in his way but he was not the source of all evil, unlike Melkor and it is debatable to what degree his will was his own when he served Morgoth and even after. The great order Sauron dreamed of never manifested in the slightest. He was doing Morgoths work in the second and third age, wether he intended it or not. And Morgoths ambitions had nothing to do with order and perfection. He reveled in chaos and ruination. And thats just what Sauron brought. As much as Sauron was a puppetmaster, i belive he was blind to his own strings.

[@joshsmith6043]

Correct. Leftism mirrors the evil of Melkor and Sauron and Satan.

[@andrewverrett568]

Sauron was so afraid of the valor that he hid as far east as he could in the lands of mordor for thousands of years before even thinking about building up his strength. He made damn sure all the valor had returned to the undying lands and that middle earth was not a concern to them anymore. Then he finally started to grow his strength. Sauron would not even dream of attempting to release morgoth in fears the valor would stop him.

[@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahweh]

Эру илуватар это Моргот бауглир

[@AerYdmyg]

@@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahwehNo. He’s. Not. Read the books & think of a cooler username. Also how’s the war going, loser?

[@dumpstermaster104]

Fact is whether Sauron wanted Morgoth released or not, it was largely out of his control...

[@sportreviewhd4767]

Not exactly he had a chance if you look at the details in the book

[@sheber123]

​. What details?

[@hmu05366]

@@sportreviewhd4767not powerful enough

[@SuperZekethefreak]

Sauron had no power to release Melkor from the void, however, Melkor did eventually escape and was clearly reimprisoned on Middle Earth as Old Man Willow, who was in "chains" while he corrupted the world with his overwhelming wrath, while Tom Bombadil - probably the worldly avatar of Iluvatar, watched over him.

[@iraelliott8936]

Remember Sauron got the Numenorians to worship Melkor well after Melkor had been cast into the void. After Sauron's ring was destroyed he more than likely ended up back beside Melkor's side

[@jedirayden]

After the ring was destroyed, his spirit survived but greatly weakened and he basically faded away into obscurity, forgotten and virtually powerless for all eternity.

[@thecollector6746]

This likely didn't happen as Sauron's spirit (whatever was left of it) along with all of the Ainu were relegated to reside permanently within the confines of Arda by decree of Eru until it's remaking with the one time exception of Melkor who's banishment into the void was blessed by Eru out of necessity. So all of this is to say, that Sauron's spirit till lingers in Arda if not for no other reason than it cannot leave Arda.

[@informedconsumer5293]

This feels like an A.I. generated answer(s) to a question

[@miklosselkirk]

It is

[@thecollector6746]

Sauron would need access to The Doors of Night which are under countrol of The Valor. Since the world had been changed with the fall of Numenor....I am not sure Sauron would have had access to them to begin with. With all that being said; Sauron's ambition after Melkor was banished to The Void was to replace him so I would assume that with all this being said he never entertained the idea of freeing his former master from his prison.

[@Ostaralabs]

Obviously After defeat, deep fears and doubts came to Sauron's mind.. Morgoths influence was so important that for a long time his ambition was to accomplish with passion and effort the targets of his master. Just imagine for one moment that someone like Sauron served a master before he became the lord of Mordor... The possible answer lies in the nature of the idea that forged the loyalty to Morgoth. Because in the end the Valar would never allow to loose middlearth to darkness. May be he was thinking in the possibility to literaly break the inffluence of Eru and the ainur that connected them to middlearth. Darkness is intimately related to the void* and well after defeat, he knew that a war against the Valar without Morgoth was impossible to win soo.. A contact or access to Morgoths power would make him a master of a world far of lights inffluence* if not having the master at his side immediatly, then being the master himself but having the control while Morgoth recovers, because the conflict is unavoidable, war between light and darkness is for eternity* Is not about loyalty, its about victory no mather how in a war for the eons* where two powers together for one of the factions is essential**

[@sunsabre]

Even with the ring Sauron is no match for the Valar.

[@sportreviewhd4767]

He don't need to be a match for them, you forgetting how he tricked Numanor and elf smiths I think he is a match in a different way not in kombat

[@Theemptythroneistaken]

Depends on which valar he came up against! Some are far beyond his intelligence and cunning.

[@GodDemonPazuzuYaldabaothYahweh]

Эру илуватар это Моргот бауглир

[@FourthFloorParkour]

Ya even with the ring he was never close to the power Morgoth had. Idk what the video was getting at with that comment

[@RuqiyaOsman-yw5pv]

@@sportreviewhd4767dude are stupid you thing he can trick Valar😂

[@jedirayden]

Sauron COULDN'T surpass Morgoth. Sauron was a Maiar while Morgoth was not only one of the Valar, (a being of a higher order and magnitude of power than the Maiar) but he was the strongest of the Valar. The One Ring is imbued with Sauron's essence and power... But it doesn't directly add to his power, or act as some kind of force multiplier for him. For other, lesser beings than he himself, it would certainly augment their abilities. It certainly doesn't push him higher in power than his former master though. On his hand, it's basically just his horcrux, quite honestly. Does he need it to control his greatest servants, the Nazgul? Nope, not since they became wraiths.

[@superduper7485]

Strongest of the valar: Tulkas laugh loud 😂😅

[@ZacharyLewis-w1f]

I don't think you realize how impossible it would be for him to do that. Sauron is afraid of the Valar. This is the most comedy thing I've ever heard.

[@CharlesNichols-k2v]

I absolutely love the way you narrate

[@Theemptythroneistaken]

He doesn't even know how the legit only person who genuinly could release him from the void is Illuvitar and he's hardly going to do that.

[@CyberUK]

Good video, but I highly recommend that you show the background pictures (which are great), without the words you put on the screen - the words detracted from your video, not least because a huge number of LOTR references were incorrectly spelt (for example your video references "Maya", "Ole", "Einu", "Valor" and I'm not even a minute into your video... Even if the spelling was correct, having the words jump up on the screen would still detract from your videos. Just positive feedback, that hopefully helps your future vids - it's clear that you put good work into this video, so don't let something like this (which was just a choice on your your part and went on after you had created an initially good video), ruin them. The art you chose & the AI narration are spot on so far....let your viewers enjoy them / your work without the distractions. It's like creating a beautiful painting and then choosing to graffiti over the top of it before anyone gets to see it at the viewing.

[@simonkoster]

Should be a rather tense meeting between Morgoth and Sauron. Like how a revived Voldemort confronts his Death Eaters in the Goblet of Fire, but on steroids.

[@cambuxton6835]

He never wanted him to be released. Sauron likes being free to do whatever he wants.

[@Feanor1972]

Nice video’s: the narration is very good i must say. Once i had an ebook of the Silmarillion. Was better than reading it😅. JRR Tolkien was a genius. I mean how old are his Books and Tales. All other fantasy books/ games and movies are heavily influenced by it!

[@Dahak6666]

Wow...... this video is deep. I love it.

[@kyla.s5838]

Morgoth will return in the final battle, when the world will be made anew.

[@KTLDR]

While I appreciate your work and that you cover interesting topics, I have a hard time listening with that echo effect on your voice. I usually sleep to these kinds of videos but I just end up closing it and playing something else. Just some feedback, all the best to you :)

[@Fiilis1]

Does it matter then since you sleep anyway lol

[@Finis.Terrae]

you have bleak channels all over the internet. dude brought something unique and different and you are immediately crying

[@coolrabi7656]

​@@Finis.TerraeIt's his opinion bro

[@hmu05366]

@@Finis.Terraecrying? 😂😂😂😂 why can nobody criticise anything these days. It’s okay to criticise

[@Don-Coyote-De-Transylvania]

What if after Morgoth return he would have claim Sauron ring? Would have Sauron gave it?

[@raymondvalasquez3992]

If Morgoth wanted Sauron's ring, Sauron would not have a choice in giving it to him. But Morgoth would have no need of the ring to begin with though unless he wanted to try and do what Sauron was doing with it.

[@Don-Coyote-De-Transylvania]

@@raymondvalasquez3992 You are so wrong.

[@jrsands]

This is a crazy, idiotic question. Sauron had no such power.

[@RealmsRevealed-vt5mg]

It may not be your subject, do you have another subject you want to see?

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

Excellent narration.