Did Scott Cawthon DIRECTLY CONFIRM LORE?! | FNAF Theory

[@revenge3265]

I truly believe that the debate around the identity of the Midnight Motorist character is simply a situation of people overcomplicating stuff. Him being William after he killed Charlie has always been obvious to me. The real question of the theory IMO isn't "Who's the driver?", it's "Who's the runaway?"

[@derrickdaniels3955]

The real mystery here along with who/what made those big footprints?

[@revenge3265]

​​​@@derrickdaniels3955 Yes, but that would likely be answered or at least give us a pretty good idea on the answer if the runaway's identity is revealed (and if we get 100% confirmation on death order). The answer could range from Micheal being visited by CC/Golden Freddy somehow (if he's the runaway), to William Afton setting up a fake (or real, but considering the weather, I don't it he'd do that) animatronic to scare Michael or CC to stay inside, to it being a canon connection Dittophobia or FNAF 4 and so on. But yeah, the biggest mystery (IMO) around MM has always been and still is, the identity of the runaway.

[@Platinuments]

​@@revenge3265I've always been under the belief it's Mike. He's visited by CC in Golden Freddy, "it's me" comes to mind. He teleports in gameplay sections, so explains the single prints. The colour of the motorist is the same as golden Freddy solidifying the connection. The colour relevance being spring bonnie/golden Freddy therefore the Afton family. CC dying to the bear. William being the bunny. I figured we overcomplicated things massively and it was pretty conclusive based on what we have. But with how much I've seen about it again lately. I'm debating even my take and it hasn't changed in a long time. I didn't think it needed to. Did I miss something though? Just, I don't see how it matters who this family is if it isn't the Afton's. We have only seen one purple car owner, one blue house and 2 animatronics with 3 toes. By this point. It's credible who it is, and it clarified the time of Charlie's death. If cc is already dead as this game suggests as he's now golden Freddy. And this mini game follows Charlie's demise. Sorry for yapping. Just worried I've been mistaken for a while now!

[@derrickdaniels3955]

@@revenge3265 Its certainly possible William setup an animatronic outside, a Nightmare perhaps. One detail people seem to overlook in FNAF 4 is on the start screen, its shows the animatronics outside the house, in some bushes and stuff.

[@oras7745]

Fully agree. After all, Purple AND Yellow are Williams colors. For me it's that purple is William when he is murdering someone (aka showing his true face) and yellow is either him pretending to be a normal guy and father without a murder history. Heck, maybe yellow is William's color before he went fully mad.

[@kophee_bean]

6:55 I was so distracted by Mustard Man moonwalking that I legit didn’t hear what RyeToast said and had to rewind. LMAO

[@maxim6o7_official]

you're not the only one buddy, you're not the only one

[@wiktorkowalkowska]

SAME BUDDY

[@paxenimzi]

SAME HAHAHA

[@Biggarfield]

he hit that shit

[@suzie_do_you_copy]

I literally came to comment this 💀💀

[@qwaielgaming6139]

0:08 I don’t think Scott meant at all that he doesn’t know or forgot what’s in the box. The way I interpreted it was that he knows what the original contents of the box are, but because the story didn’t go in that direction, he doesn’t know if there is a way to bring the original contents of the box back into the lore.

[@prince_chavv02]

Rye knows and made that same interpretation. Its just a joke for the video.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Guven it changed to meaninglessnes, egen if he did not forget, scott still wouls not know anymore since the box is not any longer a thing

[@EpicMickeyFanOfficial]

agreed, but that also means like... he doesnt know whats in the box *now*

[@VantaDraws]

I still do wonder what it was originally for

[@gabrote42]

I interpreted it that he does storytelling like Andrew Hussie did. Hussie was often called a genius foreshadower with a computer-like brain, but he said that what he does is plant hooks in advance with a general idea of where the story is headed, and then his insticts and notes let him pay off the ones that ended up being relevant and play the others off as red herrings. That's what "pulling the string from my subconscious" would mean. Because it didn't pan out,he never thought about the context, so they were not a thing, and now we know they aren't relevant

[@maxwellattacks6645]

I think most alternate MM theories miss the fact that William speaks in yellow in Fruity Maze, and William is heavily implied to be Psychic Freind Fredbear, who also speaks in yellow text. Pretty close to the color afton is in MM.

[@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster]

For me,it's just the footprints. Why would there be footprints luring Afton's kid somewhere? Plus,why? What are we supposed to learn if Afton is mustard man? As far as I can tell,it really doesn't tell us anything that we didn't already know

[@sleepylmguy9968]

@@WilliamAaronTheYapmasterThat is a valid point ngl.

[@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster]

@@sleepylmguy9968 thx

[@哲二川上]

Also In Silver Eyes and Into the Pit Will wears a Mustard colored Tie.(well the second was is a scrapped sprite,but still) Also Will has Always Been assosiated with Yellow.The Spring Bonnie Suit in the MCI,Fredbears and Springtrap. Possibly the Fredbear Suit with the Plush and the DCI. And his badge in his FNAF 2 Sprite

[@pizzzaeater1425]

​@@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster​ this might be another overcomplication, but what if the animationic footprints are metaphorical? we know Michael would run away to the nearby lake. the footprints could reference that moment being the moment he stopped being himself; or that the moment sealed his fate as another victim of the Freddy's empire, saying it was the moment he was doomed to literally become an animatronic. as far as i remember, the player character from Later That Night (mustard guy) doesn't specifically mention the large footprints, meaning they could very well not *actually* be there. unless i'm forgetting a crucial detail which lowkey i probably am lmao

[@Mekap_Oble]

Mustard man is yellow, who's also yellow? Toy Chika, Toy Chika who? Toy Chika is William Afton

[@RyeToast]

TRUE

[@King_Kong-Zilla]

Dawko was right all along.

[@blueroses4767]

broke the case wide open with this one

[@michelleslay2701]

“if scott didn’t want that there it wouldn’t be there” *worried glances at the full burntrap model and boss fight*

[@jjrobotnik]

Well yeah that's why we know that Scott wouldn't let it go past because he learned from it

[@EpicMickeyFanOfficial]

@@jjrobotnik damn that was a strong comeback

[@xeldalachyrule]

That was because of a misunderstanding between Scott and Steel Wool though. Technically, Scott didn’t want Burntrap to be a boss fight.

[@higueraft571]

@@xeldalachyrule >Technically, Scott didn’t want Burntrap to be a boss fight. Source?

[@user-s4an2thecomic]

@@higueraft571 in "the interview with Scott 2.0", he said it himself that Burn trap was supposed to be a ghost prop (similar to golden Freddy), something that would just show up now and then as an easter egg, but because Scott was trying to have steel wool piece together what Burn trap was supposed to be in the game via subtle hints, we instead got an underwhelming boss fight that was retconned

[@billie-ve_in_yourself6464]

I always felt the context of Fnaf SL theories played a big factor in why Orange guy isn’t purple. Prior to Fnaf 6 was SL with its Miketrap and Mike is the purple guy theories. Scott said he tries to clear up misunderstandings in the next installment, and that’s what I always felt this was. Orange guy is a clarification: that the purple guy isn’t physically purple.

[@shelliblossom8953]

lol in fnaf world scott literally have the killer purple guy say "dont confuse me with the actual purple guy. im just a game sprite." yea i can see him changing the color of william to yellow

[@testerwulf3357]

Ofc we know wiliam isn't literally purple 💀Who tf thought there was actually a guy with purple hair, skin, and clothes walking around?? It was always heavily hinted at that it was more of a representation not actually what he looks like, a man in the shadows (shadows are purple in the minigames), as none of the children victims actually saw what he looks like..his actual appearance is a mystery (outside, outside sources showing what he looks like)

[@billie-ve_in_yourself6464]

@@testerwulf3357 I’m probably not doing the explanation justice. The old theories were about how since Mike had a purple sprite and would be purple he would be the purple guy. Also the ending of “I will come find you” ended with Springtrap. With Mike’s robotic voice line ending on Springtrap, some people theorized that either Mike was the purple guy or Springtrap. The most popular Miketrap theory was that Mike wasn’t the killer, but was the fnaf 3 purple guy. He tried to free the souls by destroying the animatronics and died.

[@sadiesnail]

I could see that. I also always thought he just made William yellow in this game so he would stand out against the really dark background.

[@Parallelocam]

I really doubt it's this. I think it's clear as day that orange guy is orange to show it's not William. Mike is only purple because his organs rot, it was an easter egg more than anything - just showing how he's unintentionally becoming like his father. Why is William purple? Because Scott changed the story along the way. William was prob gonna be revealed to be the one ennard scooped revealing he's been undead the whole time

[@David-y1g6e]

RyeToast:[Talking about kidnapping and killing children] His Cat:[CHILL]

[@NoppyOwO]

xd

[@StrawHatZethy]

The only reason William Afton is purple is because he's wearing a uniform, you can even see his badge. Yellow man is just William in normal clothes.

[@itsdakilla7599]

Why would he be wearing his uniform when he gets spring locked? Seems a bit silly to wear a uniform to go to a business that’s closed and decrepit. Edit: Also he only wears the badge in cutscenes because the business is open and he is currently working a shift at the business. Every other instance he is on screen and not currently working he does not have the badge on.

[@lylithgoth5937]

@@itsdakilla7599 Maybe incase someone questioned why he was there? Or because people had so closely started associating the color purple with Afton that Scott though it best to color him that from then on? Idk Edit: Another commenter pointed out that Afton speaks in yellow when Crying Child dies, and I like that. It further shows his connection to the color yellow. I know they are different shades of yellow, but it is yellow nonetheless.

[@AltUTimegod2006]

I thought he was purple because he was hiding in the shadows

[@CloudMouth27]

@@AltUTimegod2006that too

[@WPFLAWLESS]

I KIND OF agree BUT...In FNAF world the purple guy sprite made it a point to differentiate between himself as in 'I'm purple because that's my sprite color ' AKA William is the man in shadows / hiding something which is the only way to convey it when your background is also black. I do agree that he's mustard at home Because he has no reason to hide at home so he let's his true colors out.

[@elfimoth3807]

Still floated on the theory high of getting a name for crying child.

[@ApocAnarchy]

Dave, look up people thinking they figured out the name isn’t Evan or Cassidy, it’s ”EVAD” which is reflected to say Dave

[@dumflame]

It’s Dave man

[@elfimoth3807]

I know what it is that's what I was saying

[@Bobbiejoinscore]

I just call him “crying child that needs to shut tf up” or for short “cctntstfu” :)

[@BrrmBrrmm]

@@Bobbiejoinscorethat… is not very short

[@MusiciansRule07]

Until Scott himself says otherwise, I'm going with Occam's Razor: Orange Guy is Afton, the person watching TV is Mrs. Afton, and the Runaway is a post Bite of 83 Michael who is now the only target of William's Rage, Rage that got worse by the hour due to his Role in Evan's (to me, but recent Events showed us that the poor little guy might be named Dave so I'll accept that too...) torture which led to his tragic death, along with the Closing of Fredbear's Family Diner, ruining his dream business. I know that there are other interpretations and every single one of them is Valid but as for me? I'm taking Mr. Hippo's UCN advice. Y'all know what it is. Also, the potential Toast-cot is absolutely adorable and fits the channel wonderfully.

[@testerwulf3357]

If mrs afton was around after the bite of 83, you'd think we'd of SEEN her anytime the week of the party. I'm pretty sure she's either dead or divorced and left the family..Plus why would scott make her BALD? If it was meant to be a woman you'd think he'd make her look more like one lol; not to mention the text color already belongs to mike. I just don't find this theory to be correct at all..idk why people try to shoehorn mrs afton into this minigame, we've never seen her she's probably not going to appear in a minigame showing the family whole let alone in one that supposedly takes place after 83. Claiming anyone we've ever seen is her is a massive stretch imo, I don't think we'll ever see her

[@higueraft571]

@@testerwulf3357 >you'd think we'd of SEEN her anytime the week of the party. That implies she cares or was available, or that Scott intended to include her, we also didnt see Elizabeth. >Plus why would scott make her BALD? Why does Scott make a BUNCH of characters bald in pixel art form? Why dont we see Pixel Tits on women? :V >not to mention the text color already belongs to mike. No it does not. Unless you're saying Desk Guy is ALSO Michael (a grey man who speaks in grey)? the notable detail is not that she's dead/divorced (because there's NO evidence for this), it's that Scott stated she isnt important to the story. She's not going to play a Relevant Role.

[@Mega-Brick]

@@higueraft571 The text color is referring to his speech boxes in the FNAF 4 night 5 minigame.

[@higueraft571]

@@Mega-Brick Yes, and that's not the only character that speaks in Grey. As mentioned, Desk Guy does too.

[@calebjohnson3537]

mm yes occams razor the character that has been purple in every appearance is randomly yellow in the final installment of the game with no explanation. like we know green guy isnt purple guy so why would yellow guy be purple. occams razor is purple character is purple yellow guy is yellow guy

[@Autumn_breach]

I agree with u on ur theory that Micheal is the ’run-away kid’. It would make sense since: 1. Charlie’s death mostly likely takes place after the bite of 83’. 2. ”Later that night” suggest it was after charlie died. 3. It would make sense for the person in the couch to tell William to take it ’easy’ on their child is a adult family member (mrs afton). Cuz i dont see why Micheal would tell his dad that for his brother. 4. We dont get to see William go after his other two kids (most likely cus those two are already dead) and since Micheal is to blaim for one of the siblings death, William gets more abusive towards Micheal (and possibly more drunk).

[@testerwulf3357]

We don't even see a mrs afton in FNAF 4 (not even at CC's own birthday)..so why would she be included in MM?? That feels weird. And ofc he's only go after 1 kid if they have a history of running away...

[@Flowermations]

@@testerwulf3357 Yeah, I feel it's pretty obvious it's Mike, I mean in the FNAF 4 minigames the color of his text is gray, and what do ya know the guy sitting on the chair's text is also gray, in the FNAF movie when he meets William, he wears a gray suit, plus we know Michael likes watching TV so yeah, I believe the runaway is Crying Child/Dave, and from another comment stating that the place Dave ran off too, and that whatever happened there is what got him to become afraid of the animatronics, it started to click in me that maybe this could be it. But hey, that's just a theory, A FNAF theory!

[@Autumn_breach]

@@testerwulf3357 It could be mrs afton or it could be a different adult member of the family

[@Autumn_breach]

@@Flowermations I see what u mean by that, but i just feel like its weird seeing Micheal ”defend” the crying child, since he has been known to taunt his brother and i just feel like an adult family member or mrs afton would of said that (the person on the couch).

[@Flowermations]

@@Autumn_breach I get it, it does seem weird for Mike to stand up to Dave since we see him torment his lil bro constantly up until his birthday, just the gray text and the gray shirt looks like it is showing that it's Mike there, though I do agree at the possibility that the couch person could be a babysitter.

[@Big_daddy_short]

The lord has blessed us with more ryetoast

[@RyeToast]

🙏

[@sirdogmen]

My reasoning for the guy being yellow and not purple has always been that it’s meant in a way that we aren’t supposed to know immediately that it’s William. Like imagine an alternate world where the guy got out the car and he was purple. Everyone playing would immediately be like, “oh my god, we’re William!” And that juts wouldn’t be as interesting in my opinion.

[@GabrieliSGaming]

I actually think Scott changed William to be yellow in this minigame because in the previous game, in the SL customer night cutscenes, we see Michael’s skin literally turn purple and that caused a huge debate whether it was Michael as literal Purple guy inside Springtrap or William as metaphorical Purple Guy inside Springtrap, so to avoid that scenario again, he made William yellow, but driving the purple car to signify it’s William. But, unfortunately, it still confused the community.

[@half-a-person517]

and i am once again reminded that this community works too fast, cause theres this, everyone needs to respond to the hyperdroid theory

[@RyeToast]

Lol I just agree with hyperdroid's theory

[@Crystal-pro-2024]

You also missed the part where the game used to have descriptions for the cars, and for the midnight motor, it was a killer car perfect for flexing a crime scene. So like, I dunno how much more obvious they could get. And it wasn't cut because of that, it was cut because the entire description segment of the cars where cut, so its probably still some what valid, since it wasn't cut for anything it was, but because the stuff it was attached to was cut

[@Cd62004]

I love hearing CC you can tell this is recorded ahead of this week lmao

[@aromaladyellie]

His name isn’t confirmed to be Dave. That’s yet another theory. Dave is just as true as Evan or Cassidy being his name.

[@TenshiLove5]

​@aromaladyellie idk I feel like it's more legitimate than those. Those feel obviously wrong to me. Dave seems more intended.

[@mylam658]

I mean we still gotta refer to him as CC or BV so everyone knows who we even talking about regardless of anything 😭

[@Cd62004]

@aromaladyellie Evan is not even close to true there is no methodology for that at all Dave is like 90% certain to be the name

[@hellomitchell]

@@aromaladyelliepeople keep saying that but cassidy sounds so dumb as a gender neutral name😂 and evan is straight up wrong because it was a half solved theory

[@Jonesman64]

Its.. Possible the sink hole is public knowledge.. as in Ruin you start off right at those windows covered in News papers talking about how the Pizza Plex was hit by a massive earthquake. Depending on how much details are in those articles.. and given the public nature of the "Pardon Our Mess" sign.. it might be they actually did let everyone know about the sink hole.

[@AirQuotes2962]

One thing I haven't seen a lot of people talk about is something Scott mentioned in the interview. In it, he talked about how he gives certain things in the files temporary names to remember them by, and that sometimes that accidentally leads to the audience taking that as the canon name. He used Glitchtrap as an example, citing that he intended to come up with a better name than Glitchtrap but the fandom found that placeholder in the files. I think this is pretty strong evidence for the "Princess Cassidy" theory. After all, the original file name was "Cassidy", which means that is the one name that was used to name and remember the Princess. And there is a precedent of Steel Wool accidentally leaving in files that the fanbase isn't supposed to see (at least not yet).

[@RobParker-b6r]

I have a theory that might play into this, I don't think there is only one spring bonnie suit. The parts and service rooms in FNAF 4 pretty much spells this out along with the idea that there are more than one Fredbear suit (one on stage casting shadows and one being worn by an employee chasing us) and furthermore i dont think william died in the suit he killed the kids with, i think he killed the kids and threw that suit in the ball pit and the one he wore in the FNAF 3 springlock scene is the "spare" suit (also allowing the suit he murdered with to be left with his and his victims' agony in the ball pit)

[@UnprovenAssumptions]

Agreed, and signal boosting here. The killer we see in Help Wanted is definitely not wearing a spring lock suit, so we have evidence for a different suit both existing and being used. Glad I’m not the only one thinking this 😅

[@PyroTurtleGaming]

8:37 Mustard Man moonwalks

[@Spookworm]

2:25 Toast gives off small dog energy, I love them sm,,,

[@khbhkbhjhbjbjhbhjbjh]

erm... okay

[@ahusky4498]

BV being the runaway actually lines up with his FNaF 4 depiction way more than people think. I always hear he can't be the runaway since he's a crybaby who doesn't have confidence. However, FNaF 4 has depicted BV running away from his fear and harms way a few times. A giant Fredbear animatronic appears in front of him? He runs the other way to escape. He only hides under the table once he realized he was cornered (one side by the employee and the other side the main stage). The very next night, he has the opportunity to run away from the diner and takes it (because he is scared of the place). FNaF 4 shows BV is very willing to run away to get away from harm and his fears. Now, back in MM, William would be abusive towards him and so I wouldn't be surprised he runs away from him. Specifically this time, he'd use the window because Mike is guarding the front door in the living room.

[@higueraft571]

Except CC ran TOWARDS some Spooky Animatronic staring from outside his window, possibly even knocking it down. He's done so repeatedly with ever-increasing discouragements most likely, he's locked the door again and again. He isnt the Rebellious One, Michael is. Additionally, Runaway isnt *just* running away, he's repeatedly running off to "That Place" each time. And through the window repeatedly, not JUST this time. Michael would fit this FAR better. He's bold and brash, he deliberately picks fights with Animatronics/has a disrespect for Authority, he has a VERY clear and major motive for why and where he'd run off (because he literally murdered his younger brother, and regrets it), and of course Michael IS the one who locks the door, clearly this door is locked from the inside, not the outside. As for Couch Guy being Michael? The only defining trait is "Grey", and "watches TV". The former is ALSO shared by Henry.

[@ahusky4498]

​@@higueraft571 Who is to say the runaway was afraid of the animatronic outside? It is just as likely the runaway didn't want to deal with his abusive dad and so decided the better choice was to follow the animatronic outside. We don't know if the runaway escaped through his window the previous times. Also, the runaway having previously ran away is probably the reason the couch person is watching over him in the first place. I agree that Michael is also capable of doing something like this, but I believe he is the couch person. Not just because the sprite is "grey", which you point out is Henry's only tie into this. The TV aspect is crucial. Many fans have argued the orange guy isn't William because he isn't the only person with a purple car. Look how that turned out. The same argument is used for the couch person: "the couch person isn't Mike because he isn't the only person who watches TV". To be consistent, it makes sense to say the couch person is Mike.

[@higueraft571]

@@ahusky4498 >To be consistent, it makes sense to say the couch person is Mike. And to be consistent, he should probably talk LIKE Michael. Which this one doesnt. It reads more like a grown adult speaking to another, like Henry to William. Someone that William cant just punish like he can a child. >Who is to say the runaway was afraid of the animatronic outside? Would anyone trust something strange that's staring at them through the window? Not just not being afraid, but outright knocking it over in the process. >It is just as likely the runaway didn't want to deal with his abusive dad This also DOES rely on the idea that William abused all his kids the exact same way, in a single way, this typically isnt the case, especially when there's the "Narcissistic Household" type that'd fit the situation perfectly, ESPECIALLY for CC. >We don't know if the runaway escaped through his window the previous times. Why else would he have smashed the window if he could just open it? You think it only happened twice and the person keeping watch would stop them? I'd imagine a window shattering would be an instant tell of "they're escaping", if they were intentionally put there to STOP said escapes :V No matter how i look at it, the argument for CC being the runaway instead of Michael is far weaker, with FAR less of a solid motive, way less of a track record of similar behavior, and just not adding much to the story, unlike the alternative. With Michael even acting unlike his previous depictions. It's POSSIBLE at least, but Michael being the runaway ticks every box and more, *much* more cleanly and simply, giving a somewhat clearer view of the timeline/chain of events as well.

[@PositiveNihilism.]

I Liked Ozone's Connection that The Car was Afton's Rental car, from the Soap Opera. Framing That Abusive father.

[@OzoneYT]

Thanks lol! Not too sure about it anymore but was a cool idea nevertheless :)

[@Ezylona]

Yea RyeToast seems to have taken quite a bit of inspiration from that video

[@danius_huganius]

purple guy doing something good for once 🙏

[@PositiveNihilism.]

@@OzoneYT Yo welcome,👍 I would Like to Hear your Thoughts, If you would Ozone, You Know The Therapy CDs in The Micheal Therapy room? I Theorize that Specifically in The CD that Discusses a Court Case, Between Vanessa and a Therapist. The Theory Goes, That it's Not Vanessa in That CD, But The Therapist thinks She's Talking to Vanessa. But is Talking to Elanour or Elizabeth "Pretending" to Be Vanessa. Via some illusion Tech The Father Bill(Short for William) Made Elizabeth Lie So That He'd Win The Custody of The Afton Kids Family, Explaining why we NEVER See Mrs Afton. What Gives Her away is When "Vanessa" Cries "I was Supposed to Be a Good girl" The Therapist Made Elizabeth/Elanour Realize The Tool she was William, It wouldn't make Sense for Vanessa to speak Like a Little girl. But it Would For Elizabeth To Be talking Talking about HER Father. I think Vanny is Circus Baby, in Some way. And Because of The Realization in That CD, Baby, As Vanny, Crushes William as The Glitchtrap Virus, No Longer under Any Control. As a Closure against her Father. She's The New Gregory That Drops Cassie Down The Elevator, She's The HELPI that Works with The Mimic. ( Both Abused by their Technical Father Figures) She's That Second Vanessa That Get's Shoved off The Building by Glamrock Freddy, While The Poor Real Vanessa is Engulfed By Flames, The Real Vanessa is The Tape girl That "Compartmentalized" Glitchtrap Into The VR Glitch Tapes, But were Edited By Elanour, Convincing Someone Else to Collect them all Together... The Help wanted DLC Described what Elanour Did Afterwards. Experimenting with Lobotomy on DreadBear, That Would Lead to How the V.A.N.N.I Brain Chip would Be made. Making The Vanny Mask and Persona. The Real Spicy comes here, This stuff Starts with The NOVELS. Say "Red pill" if you want to Forget about this Say "Blue Pill" And In one of Your Comments, we See just how Far this Rabbit goes. (⁠ಠ⁠_⁠ಠ⁠)⁠>⁠⌐⁠■⁠-⁠■ (⁠⌐⁠■⁠-⁠■⁠)

[@FTZPLTC]

Yeah, wondering if this video was in any way influenced by Ozone. tbh I don't think the FLAF thing is a huge deal, and everything else in that video felt pretty spot on.

[@runaruinous]

The 'if scott didn't want it there it wouldn't be there" is a bit iffy. He said (if I recall correctly) in the recent interview burntrap wasn't supposed to be some big twist villian coming out of the tube but more a creature you say peeking out of the cracks of places in the pizza plex. which kinda means steel wool just tossed em in in a different way than scott intended. I do like the idea that maybe the orange guy may have been framed for Aftons cirme cause in the Immortal and the restless it's implied his car is a rental.

[@higueraft571]

>which kinda means steel wool just tossed em in in a different way than scott intended. Pretty sure less "just tossed him in", and more "Fuck, we dont have enough time to finish the game, cut all the middle stuff out and find something to jam on as an ending" "Oh sick, Burntraps' fight is somewhat done? Use that. I dont care just bolt it on somehow" There was ABSOLUTELY meant to be significantly more buildup to the Burntrap fight, and for Vanny as a whole alongside "The Disappearances" that appear a whopping 2 times in the Final Release (The Exit at 6 AM, and the Escape/Bad End Newspaper). Likely finding out more about Vanny and Greggory discovering Burntrap's existence, him and Freddy going down there to try and fight him, etc Similar, but a much slower burn/with way more buildup, rather than "damn here's Burntrap now" :V

[@tresav673]

Midnight motorist imo.. Orange guy is def William Afton, He is an alcoholic by this point since the death of CC and he knows Michael is at fault. One night he gets too drunk at JR’s and comes home enraged.. Mrs Afton is sitting in the living room watching soap operas (The immortal & the restless), and knows he is going to take his anger out on mike.. Mike keeps his door locked because William probably abuses him for killing his brother.. but when he finds out that he cant get in, he goes outside to try and get in through the window, but he realizes Mike has broken out. The footsteps belong to Golden Freddy (Mikes little brother) and he gets him to come to the Freddy’s by letting him know his spirit is trapped (why mike always sees “IT’S ME” and “IM STILL HERE” whenever Golden Freddy appears in game. William is hellbent on punishing Mike for escaping (“He went to that place again, he’ll be sorry”), so he heads to Freddy’s looking for him… but instead finds Charlie trapped outside in the rain. He then kills her in a drunken rage later that night….

[@Basic_ark_enjoyer]

This theory makes a lot of sense!

[@testerwulf3357]

I'm..pretty sure this isn't the case. No mother has EVER been seen. She's either dead or left long before the CC bite incident. Plus the color and color of the text match mike, especially since he also watches TV. Also, how could he of gotten drunk at JR's when he didn't COME from JR's to begin with?? He's not even let inside. Not to mention the minigame is titled "later that night" (like later that night..after the murder of Charlie, her murder would ofc be earlier that night. To be later that night, means something happened before). Also, we're not certain if CC is dead by this point in the story..or if william even becomes abusive to mike after it

[@VantaDraws]

the only issue there is why the easter egg is called later that night. I like this otherwise!

[@tresav673]

@@testerwulf3357 you have to remember. When Charlie was killed outside Freddy’s, she was trapped outside by the other kids, the puppet tried to save her but was stuck inside its box. In the initial minigame.. we see the child already outside the building and the car pulls up. Unless William knew she would be outside what other reason would he have to go there and kill her? Now I will admit im doing a good amount of speculation here, but it very plausible that he went to freddy’s looking for mike and instead found charlie outside. Also just because he was not allowed inside Jr’s does not mean he wasn’t there earlier in the day/night.. he could have been kicked out right before the minigame for all we know.. lastly, If we assume that the person watching tv was Mike and the one who escaped was CC.. It wouldnt make sense that there are only one set of animatronic footprints outside and several smaller ones along side.. golden freddy however (who we know is possessed by CC) appears and disappears in supernatural way. We assume that we play as mike in FNAF 1-3 and since we KNOW he is the one who ultimately got CC killed… it would make sense that he is haunted by the spirit of his little brother who is trying to tell him that he is still here but trapped

[@tresav673]

@@VantaDraws it could be the same night as the original MCI since Help Wanted 2 portrays that charlie was killed last and Into the Pit portrays that all the kids were killed at one time in 1985? Just brainstorming here

[@kenseihaup]

Only thing I know is that there will be two things that will outlive us all. Roaches and FNAF.

[@alyphim]

I'm a dev, none of the improvements in five laps that you're asking for are "impossible", it's just a matter of how much they're willing to invest in the in-game physics. I hope they decide to pour more resources into that. It could really be something big if they did.

[@mothman5779]

One thing I'd like to call out and ask for clarification on with your theory about Michael being the escapee. If William posted up an animatronic outside Michael's window to keep him inside, then where did the animatronic go? It only has the single set of footprints, so it seems unlikely that it walked away. I imagine these things are extremely heavy, so I doubt Michael carried it somewhere. So where could it have gone? Because of the single set of prints, I lean more towards the theory that those prints were made by Golden Freddy given that it's mostly confirmed that he can seemingly teleport or whatever it is that he does to get around (based off the movie scenes, but also in FNAF 1 where he can just appear out of nowhere and disappear again). I do agree that Michael being the escapee is the likely answer, but I feel that Golden Freddy being the owner of the single set of prints makes more sense than William placing an animatronic outside to trap Michael inside.

[@TwinMajora]

I have mostly the same theory except for one caveat. The animatronic footprints, I think they belong to golden freddy. The movie makes me think that golden freddy has similar abilities to apparate and disappear while being physically tangible. SO following that logic, golden freddy could appear, do the "it's me" bit with michael, disappear, and only leave one set of foot/paw? prints with no evidence of coming or going.

[@TalixZen]

I always thought the guy wearing the mustard colored suit in the cut scenes was clearly supposed to be William Afton, so why wouldn't the Mustard Man from Midnight Motorist be William Afton? After all in some scenes he wears a mustard suit, and in others he wears a purple one, but it is clearly the same guy. He's even wearing a mustard shirt and tie when wearing the purple suit.

[@BonusDuckie]

Rye, don't you find it a bit interesting how the moisture thing for springsuits are about loosening the springs... yet people work with them all the time in the series?? and dont you think the most recent springlock failure we've seen is in the FNAF movie, a BIG MOMENT, with an arguably IMPORTANT character, has NO WATER present? Could it be that we misunderstood the situation with the springlocks? And that maybe, they're not AS fragile as we think, but rather, the more moisture they get, the faster they deteriorate LEADING to a spring failure. And don't you think its interesting how there's 3 toes outside the window. 3 toes which a certain Golden Freddy now has, which is UNUSABLE due to the spring locks being completely wrecked by being in the rain, deemed maybe TOO unsafe to be used? We hear a tape in fnaf3 about 'multiple springlock failures'. Could Golden Freddy be the suit used in Midnight Motorist, being the suit used to Kill The One You Should Not Have Killed, giving it the posibility to house TWO spirits (Bite victim AND TOYSNHK) and being left limp by the locks getting ruined by rain and mud, then failing mid presentation and being left on a room, while being the suit mentioned in fnaf3? Three killings, three victims, all different, but related with one killer, William Afton!!!

[@caiquecalove8212]

wait a minute, isn't there a chance that the car is Afton's but the driver is not him? I always feel like the mom/ms. Afton is sidelines in most theories, and I get it that we have basically no info on her BUT what is she is the drunk driver and Willian is the "Him" on the couch? the driver is never referred with any gender, but the person watching TV and the one in the bedroom are both referred as "him". What if "later that night" was actually later of the night when one of the Afton children (probably Michael) was kidnaped by William? The animatronic footprint was springtrap's kidnaping his own child, and the mom didn't hear a thing because she was out drinking at Juniors. And when she gets home, William is chilling in the living room as if nothing happened. Cause if the person on the couch were home when the glass broke, he would've heard it. I'm just thinking out loud here, but I really think the mom should be and IS more important than the games have been letting us know.

[@gabrielc-d22]

11:06 can't help but noticing that Vlad is the opposite, yellow interior and purple outside 😮👀

[@Starkiller-ob2ft]

I would love to live in an alternate universe where fnaf and chuck e cheese switched places. where Freddy fasbears pizza is real and Scott made five nights at chuckys

[@spyderbyte4271]

I think the answer to whether or not we can rely on this little fun side game for lore lays in what scott cawthon has to say about the books continuity. In that the books are not in the games main timeline but there are aspects from the books that can be used to solve lore bits in the games. I fully believe that when the full game releases, since this a demo after all, that there will be even more secrets to uncover and clues that help solve things that have been either around for a long time, or new questions presented in more recent titles or maybe even both.

[@MrMiraculon]

I think we don't know for sure how to treat this game until the actual full version is out. Maybe Scott sees the glitch trap antenna and will be like "hey, remove that, that's contradicting" or other changes like that. Or maybe they can add something to actually support some answers. There's just too many maybes for this game to be given judgement on if it's important to the lore of the franchise. So I personally think we should wait until full release and then have this conversation.

[@buckethatboy8719]

YES THANK YOU

[@linarose6054]

22:12 I’ve also heard it’s Elizabeth on the couch and Mike in the room

[@Grayson-tk5hn]

12:05 bros just like me fr fr

[@Platinuments]

I've been under the impression that the family is the Afton's. The motorist is William. The runaway is Mike. The TV enjoyer is Mrs Afton/a babysitter and explains not hearing the smashed window, especially combined with heavy rain. The contentious part is apparently I'm going against a lot of proposals by thinking the animatronic is CC (Dave) in Golden Freddy's suit. Teleporting like it did for the first FNaF games. Hence a single set of prints. In, "it's me", out. Just like the games. Then Mike follows to either Freddy's or to the unmarked grave(?). William when speaking as Spring Bonnie uses both yellow and blue text to speak to Suzie when she's playing Fruity Maze. If nothing else it is suggesting to us, especially on the back end of Scott responding to Game Theory a lot, that colour isn't everything when identifying a character. The characters were limited for a reason, especially adult ones. So the motorist by the narrative logic shown previously must have been a character we've seen before. The only adult character of any importance not given more details, is the actor inside the Freddy costume during David's (again, CC) FNaF 4 mini game. I'm struggling to see any other relevance to the colours other than it's Golden Freddy/spring trap related. This is where I have always been with it. But recently I've seen a lot of new details regarding Midnight Motorist. I'm struggling to understand how it changes the timeline though? David dies first, then Charlie. I don't quite understand the idea of Charlie's death being first. I can't quite see the narrative reasoning nor evidence for it. Loose as evidence of anything already is. But maybe I'm lost entirely. If anyone has taken the time to read this, I don't expect an answer. But if I could be pointed in the right direction to clear up any misunderstandings I've been left with. I'd greatly appreciate it. Big ask though, I get it. Another excellent video though. Glad to see this damn mini game getting some near conclusive answers with some genuinely satisfying conclusions behind them. Even if I'm not in total agreement. I appreciate the efforts taken to explain many fan favourite theories.

[@roscoe5427]

one issue i tend to have with the mrs. afton TV theory is that the TV watcher has several connections to mike. like Rye said, depicting a character watching TV the game following sister location leads one to believe it's mike, but also the fact that the individual is dressed in grey and speaks in grey text, both are features of michael afton in fnaf 4. Another thing is that we can be pretty sure that both David(CC) and Michael were in the hallucinogenic gas chambers and saw the nightmare animatronics, as they were around as early as 1983 if you give credence to the fake ending EE in the sister location private room. Along with this, it's mentioned several times via the fredbear plush in fnaf 4 that David(CC) saw soemthing. IE: "No! Remember what you saw?". To be fair this could be thrown away as fnaf 4 was headed in an entirely different direction than any of the other games, but we have seen how Scott has molded it to fit the current narrative before, especially so recently with the bonnie mask kid being theorized to be Cassie's father in HW2. To me, atleast, midnight motorist seems like the precursor to fnaf 4. It shows why William would do soemthing like that to his kid(David doesn't listen time and time again, so now he goes in the chamber), William then enlists Mike's help in scaring David away from freddy's (we have seen before that Michael will listen to his father's requests to the point of letting the funtime escape the bunker using his body), although that could merely be out of guilt for David's death. I also don't believe Jr's is just a bar, it doesn't make much sense that Scott would introduce William being an alcoholic and that it would really have much of an effect, he is already a child murderer and abusive father, so being an alcoholic doesn't really add much, especially at the point of fnaf6. I believe Jr's refers to the first freddy fazbear's(as it was established in 1983), and we know for a fact that the location William came from was not that location, but another location that charlie was at, meaning that was most likely Frebears that charlie was killed at(which also coincides with the book lore for charlie's death). Another reason I think David ran off to freddy's is that by the start of fnaf 4, he considers the freddy's gang to be his friends(the plushes in his room). Something that i never see people talk about is the green man, I think i know his identity but I haven't seen anyone talk about this possibility. I personally think that the green man is Henry Emily. It would make sense that he would recognize william, but the thing that makes me feel that it's him, is that he is the same color as the wristband charlie wears that the puppet is designated to protect. it's a security puppet that henry built so that charlie would be looked after while he was elsewhere(aka at freddy's that night). Henry even states in the final monologue in fnaf6 that "I'm sorry I wasn't there on that fateful day to lift you into my arms the way you lifted others into yours", signifying that he was, in fact, not there with charlie to prevent her death, and you could imagine he'd be at another location, otherwise why would he leave his daughter at his workplace. It's a convoluted minigame with a lot of odd parts, I still am not too sure how the animatronic footprints would fit into it, outside of it possibly being cassidy in golden freddy and cassidy having already been a victim of william's at that point. Sorry for the super long comment, just figured I'd share why I thought of the minigame differently

[@Platinuments]

@@roscoe5427 Hey, firstly. Great comment. No need to apologise for it's length. You covered a lot. I'll do my best to respect all aspects in my response. But let me first say, lot of good points made. I'm by no means trying to interject with any corrections, just furthering my understanding best as I can. With that aside, the TV enjoyer I don't think is Mike. A few reasons, but largely due to the fact that SL shows him watching TV but aside from that is the only instance of that. Other times we've seen Mike ignoring the TV in favour of terrorising his brother. So being a casual bystander, and being supportive of his brother in the same instance is a couple steps too far from the character we've seen. Despite the SL reference. I'm not entirely following the SL reference that follows or what you're suggesting it means, forgive me. I'm not trying to be ignorant. I just didn't like SL much! Haha. Controversial I know... But if you're saying what I believe you are. Then I find it hard to believe, the same as I struggled with Mike, that this runaway is David. He is meek, so showing a break out and run away from his fears would have changed the mini games a lot. He seemingly stops himself escaping. Or the plush does as you mentioned. And is often found in a ball crying. Actually escaping or breaking a window is just unheard of by this point. I don't see that as David's behavioural patterns and thus don't see him as the runaway. Despite, always wanting to run away. The conclusion you gave is solid and I don't know enough regarding the chambers to critique it much. How much of that have I missed in the game canon though? I don't remember it being so heavily implied. I do remember it from the books though. But again, I'm probably wrong. I just have a hard time remembering this all! However, it again as you've said it makes me question Mike being a passive character doing his father's bidding, then seemingly defending his little brother against his father for one mini game only. Then returns to guilt ridden but still actively governed by his father? I see how it works, but I just feel it's poorly told if it's true. Not a criticism of your interpretation so much, more so on how little we actually have to understand the motivations behind these characters. We've only just settled on a name now! Haha. Jrs is topical. I believe it's a bar purely based on some colloquialisms I've seen be fairly accurate in my years. But generally the hardest working or most active and brightest thinkers are those who drink too. Insinuation is not fact, but it lends to the credibility of it being William. An ultimately psychotic person, but a mechanical genius. Unfeeling or even grief can cause people to drink. If he was drunk, it explains the wreckless driving and being kicked out of said bar. The orange is interchangeable with his text colour and some of the images from Pizzeria Sim interchanging purple and yellow. A raincoat maybe? Clothing being the thing that is primarily used to identify a colour of characters. Nothing concrete. Just my take there now too. I think using colour to explain characters in this mini game in particular is a slippery slope. Though I like the conclusion of Henry being the door man. I feel this has been looked over a few times now and I'm not convinced purely based on the other aspects of this mini game. The logic is solid behind it. But I think this particular mini game was designed to make us question what we've previously relied on. Sounds like a cop out, I get that. All in all. Thank you for your comment. I am not trying to argue just merely trying to gain further insight. I have hardly spoke about FNaF to anyone so it's like a torrent echo chamber of random names, dates and animatronics. I appreciate your response greatly. I'm sorry for the lengthy one I've sent back. You've given me a lot to think about and I enjoy that, so thank you again.

[@broderickfoster2107]

Charlie being first I think really only needs to apply for Purposeful Killings section of dead characters in Fnaf. Crying Child wasn’t a murder victim of William Afton, he’s a prank gone really really bad. Same can be said for Elizabeth too if you think she’s before Charlie, neither of them were “supposed” to die. They’re freak accidents in a sense. Charlie on the other hand very much so is murdered by Afton (or at least to our knowledge she is). Combine that with Henry’s “a wound first inflicted on me” line and she’s gotta be the first murder victim (not necessarily MCI or anything like that, just a murder victim). So Charlie doesn’t need to be the first one to die, just needs to be the first murder victim of William Afton. (And to clarify when I say murder victim here I mean that he intended to and planned to kill that individual, not having a machine designed to kill people that someone got too close to and wasn’t supposed to).

[@Platinuments]

@@broderickfoster2107 Hey, that's fantastic. I really like the way you've used the language itself to portray the differences in the deaths VS murders. That's actually a brilliant takeaway from this all and does help settle some things for me there too. I'm firmly under the belief that this mini game's purpose was to clarify that David dies before Charlie. But recently I've noticed a lot of conversation regarding that order now not being true. The murder VS unintended death aspect certainly adds another layer to consider. I really like that too. Cheers!

[@roscoe5427]

@@Platinuments no problem! the fnaf community is about theorizing and trying to see from multiple points, rarely do i take someone's theory that doesn't fit with ones i've made as any sort of discourse, and the more theories, the higher chance that we find something akin to the truth. to add onto my previous comment, most of my issue with the mrs. afton theory is that she's introduced for seemingly no reason here, much of fnaf 6 is about concluding mysteries and threads of story, and including her seems to me to only be addressing the fact that she did indeed exist at one point, but i feel as though williams actions could've been gotten across without the need of including her(also she's bald lol), but then again, that could be, like you said, just poor writing in this minigame that has puzzled the community for many years now midnight motorist, in my opinion, has surpassed the fabled box in large questions that have still gone unanswered in the series, especially now that scott elaborated on the idea of the box and how it worked. i'm glad that more and more seems concrete when it comes to midnight motorist nowadays (IE: later that night, mustard man is william) and i'm hoping more things get solved as we go, as i think this minigame is supposed to lead us in a very specific direction that doesn't work for most theories, but the discourse over what was intended or not seems to make that hard(the "unmarked grave", purple guy being yellow, green man, Jr's, only one set of the animatronic footprints) it's hard to think what was deiberately thought about

[@_end3rguy_]

i am astonished how you record these videos without impulsively going "KIIITYYYYYY SO FUNNY LOOKING EEEEEE" in a high pitch voice every 9 seconds like i do

[@ribbon_dye]

I feel like this was 100% intentional. Especially since it was part of the demo and part of the anniversary event. This is Scott's way of saying its confirmed.

[@zackaryw8407]

Toast, chair person has to be Mrs. Afton. If Willy was an abusive father, Mike wouldn’t give him that kind of sass.

[@RawrKatz]

13:48 I still believe that the animatronic is the spring lock Freddy suit but since it was raining he couldn’t leave it out since the spring locks would trigger so Micheal used the opportunity to run out

[@TheSunsetHero256]

we literally see the suit Afton uses to kidnap kids in Help Wanted. It's a normal mascot costume. Not a springlock suit.

[@mannyegarica12]

2:46 My mom loves how soft the youtoonz toast plushie and my youngest nephew likes it too because it's puffy like a pillow. I saw him taking away from my collection and sleeping with it.

[@redscarfinfinite9743]

Rye toast with another rye post

[@mjjjermaine]

16:00 YES! Drifting also kills your momentum a bit, you get a boost but it feels like it only makes up for the distance you lost by starting to drift

[@bigalgames7963]

Mustard Man: OPEN THE DOOR! Squidward: Haha, make me fat ass.

[@ThePuff18]

I’m no theorist, but I WOULD like to propose an answer for the animatronic footprints A Lonely Freddy Here are the main points: Able to move independently (Probably) has three-toed feet (Probably) exists thanks to Psychic Friend Fredbear

[@khbhkbhjhbjbjhbhjbjh]

correct me if im wrong, but the lonely freddy was described in the books to be quite small and those footprints look like the prints of a fully-sized animatronic

[@BlueProof6]

bro the whole time I was distracted by the kitty lol

[@averovis]

4:33 is still funny to this day

[@GJames-Legend101]

They should make a interactive novel that’s about midnight motorist to help explain things.

[@kendrashaaaa]

honestly, I’m only half paying attention. I am distracted by that fat baby cat on your lap.😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️

[@SusmitDS]

Bro, the video aside, your cat is really adorable.

[@theretrodragonyope]

Hear me out, the runaway could be Dave before he was traumatized. A more rambunctious child is put through the nightmares (to keep him away from 'that place,' cause simply telling Elizabeth obviously did not work) and starts constantly crying which eventually annoys and embarrasses his older brother Mike. Trying to look tough Mike gets Dave 83'd and William shows him why Dave was crying through the same nightmares. Or William was actually trying to keep Dave alive through the nightmares via a constant familiar emotion. I just think that with Dave really liking the gang animatronic and mentioning 'what he saw,' that the crying was a recent thing that was starting.

[@DrAnt-uq7pj]

just a thought that probably had no legs to really stand on but in the beginning of the ruin dlc there’s graffiti in the lobby and other places in the pizzaplex. people have definitely been inside since they closed it off. I can definitely see a timeline where perhaps some people might have found a way under roxy raceway. that or maybe the reason the pizzaplex closed was because a sink hole opened up and random guests saw the underground. fazbear entertainment does have a habit of trying to brush off their history with games so maybe this is their way of laughing off the rumors of what people saw under the pizzaplex. again probably doesn’t have much to stand on but just a thought.

[@MurderousPenguin]

My theory or headcannon is irrelivant, but that man had the best sleeper car build this world has ever seen That thing reaches 200 without much effort and could easily go faster William is both a genius with killing machines and cars to reach that Also consider the date, with a car that old? Sheesh.

[@Molchadd0]

12:44 but we see he say "Leave him alone tonight. He had a rough day." not her

[@Mimi-vz8un]

yeah cause its the mrs afton talking about mike😭?

[@TheUnrealRager]

Yes rye! You agree that Scott forgot what was in the box! Everybody else says that he “revealed” what’s in the box but I think he just confirmed that there is nothing in the box! 😂

[@Sstandard_]

Also I remember matpat saying that the only time william afton is seen as purple is in the atari death minigames, games which also used purple for the shadow animatronics, and how atari games used purple for shadows. William afton couldve just been a shadowy figure (also the background animatronic shadows are purple in fnaf 4). Michael is the only person to have true purple skin (in SL) [which is prolly just due to the fact that "purple guy" was the only name known for the killer at the time (also the name William Afton was introduced in SL)] But anyways, michael having purple skin is just playing on the trope that everyone called gave the name "purple guy" to a shadowy figure.

[@revolv8379]

One thing I haven't seen add to William Afton being orange/mustard man is that Into the Pit in the minigame based on Pac-Man where you save the kids, the person chasing you is yellow/orange, which on its own very much implies it's him

[@kksmith2282]

I wish we got some more confirmed. Honestly Mustard Man as William Afton always felt like a given to me (heck, I feel like the Fazbear Frights story Kids at Play also confirms this by presenting a parallel story where an angry, agressive man runs over a child at midnight, then later gets trapped in a hard, greenish-yellow prison). All that said though, I'm still in complete agreement with your theory on the minigame. I think it makes the most sense for the runaway child to be Michael and this to be sort of a lead up to FnaF 4. Still, honestly the one thing I wish we could get a firm answer on is who is sitting in that chair watching TV. Like, Ms. Afton makes sense but we've literally never seen her so who even knows. An answer for the paw prints outside the window would be nice too :3 Anyways, the main thing this video confirms for me is that Midnight Motorist still best music track in the entire franchise :3 (followed by Ennard fight in Sister Location)

[@v0idtea]

ofc i want the toast plushie!!!!! sorry i missed ur bday stream, rye :( happy bday!! & i hope the plushie gets made

[@Sansaskeleton8]

"Don't you want something that'll look similar this in your very own home to watch you while you sleep" -RyeToast, 2024

[@AbsolXGuardian]

20:21 I feel like the existence of the Midnight Motorist level is a stronger disproving element. The in-universe Midnight Motorist arcade cabinet doesn't include "later that night", so it isn't there to inspire the level. I think there's a chance this is another fnaf world situation, where the game will have a main campaign that is a metaphor for something. Since the little details outside of the clocks don't matter for fnaf world in the lore, Scott could easily tell the team what he wants this to be a metphor for, what secrets and details to put where, and since he knows not to create a repeat of Secruity Breach, the actual story as well. And then the team would need even less supervision than SteelWool for them to execute it correctly by building a game to carry the secrets

[@shlick7466]

Honestly the fact that jrs is a real place being confirmed is massive. I know a lot of people thought that jrs was a name for a different fazbear pizzaria.

[@AlmondCrapper]

7:23 in the books, william Afton got springlocked more than once (i think) so maybe this could be the first time he got springlocked and he didnt know the suits shouldn't get wet. idk thats my take but good video

[@name.is.myname]

Yeah this happened in The Silver Eyes. Near when William Afton was introduced, he raised his shirt to show scars that he got from being springlocked. Then near the end of the book, he gets springlocked again when Charley defeats him, smilar to the movie. I also think it's important to note that when he gets springlocked at the end of the book, it's not the same event as him getting coaxed into the suit by the ghost. That event could be a 3rd time that William got springlocked.

[@Spazy912]

In the files there are descriptions and the midnight motor description supports this even more

[@Littlemushroomfangs]

Please put the little fire of the animated toast you showed into the eyes of the new toast plush you’re trying to sell Rye!!!! It’s so much more appealing and still allows for that touch of adult humor to such a cute concept💕💕💕

[@Skrotboks1094]

Are there still people that don’t believe yellow-guy is William? I thought we cleared this up years ago

[@WeAreRisenzUPS]

Some people who theorize are really stubborn, at this point Scott probably just decided to end one of key bits of confusion around the minigame while leaving the part that has mattered more: 'Who was the runaway' open and now he's pushing us in the right direction

[@shelliblossom8953]

the funny thing is that scott has literally in fnaf world have the killer purple guy state that he isnt really the color purple the line is "dont confuse me with the actual purple guy. im just a game sprite"

[@noahthompson5010]

The other most likely theory is this is a father and his son is one of the MCI kids.

[@Skrotboks1094]

@@noahthompson5010 I have never heard about that theory until this video

[@WeAreRisenzUPS]

@@Skrotboks1094 I have but I thought it was always very silly, I can only think that maybe he would want to explain another Afton Murder but then we have Susie and a questionable second one, why not show the other 3 at that point?

[@potato-uj9dk]

i like to think that the sinkhole raceway is another case of the public believing that there is a sinkhole below the pizzaplex, like an urban myth, and fazbear making it a racetrack in one of their games to make fun of it

[@heather1872]

I was super into this game and the lore from the beginning. When the books started, and all this cannon non cannon stories- it's become so effing confusing that it hurts my head and I'm no longer interested.

[@eurrrp5204]

Another reason why Midnight Motorist probably isn't referring to Dittophobia is because it came out 6 years before, so it's serving another purpose.

[@jan-Sopija]

5:58 remind me of the quote "Absence of evidence is not evidence of an absence"

[@isaac_aren]

I very much subscribe to the theory FuhNaff posted about that claims that the runaway is actually the crying child, pre bite of 83, the time he actually dies; lured away by Funtime Freddy using an illusion disc to pose as Fredbear. He is then later rebuilt as a robot by William and this robot version, with the memories of being killed, is terrified of Fredbear and is then subject to the bite of 83. Hence William saying "I will put you back together" and Molten Freddy referring to everyone being back together as a big happy family

[@creekkid42]

i think the foot print is golden freddy. 'that place' could be the grave, or it could be a freddies or even the bunker. People using the fnaf 4 map as proof it isn't the aftons, or the runaway couldn't be going to freddies is silly. They're pixelated mini games, they aren't meant to be literal or to scale.

[@paydaygh9388]

MM is CC leaving the house with Henry in Golden Freddy. CC’s only friends are the Freddy’s characters. William uses these events to prove Henry “definitely” did the MCI. That’s why someone was convicted but William is still operating freely. That’s why there’s 3 toes. That’s why there’s something that CC saw, they went to Freddy’s and saw Security Puppet and Charlie. My second theory: we know about Suzy being Chica first, and the community consensus is that the two kids lured together became Bonnie and Freddy. We also know Cassidy in GF is “the one you should not have killed,” therefore MM is about the child who became Foxy because nothing makes him special. My third theory is that MM is a confirmation that a costume, not a Springlock suit, was used for the MCI (or just this one time). Glitchtrap is a costume, as are the Ruin costumes that the Mimic uses. Springlock suits can’t be used in the rain, but we know that regular costumes exist.

[@crudberry]

love the music choices in these vids! :)

[@SyllaAria]

PLEDGED FOR THE PLUSHIE!! I need another Toast in the Cylla residence~

[@mogusisfunny]

I like how he just has his cat in his lap while he's recording

[@scaleonkhan183]

18:06 You know what I just realized? All the bars for Midnight Motor are yellow.

[@cheese-ut4pc]

maybe c.c was so scared of the nightmares that he broke a window and ran away. that's what i would've done tbh.

[@higueraft571]

...directly INTO a spooky animatronic's arms? Also this is definitely not the FNAF 4 Gameplay House.

[@Vt3434_]

I find it kind of odd that the window is broken, but there’s no glass on the ground outside, usually if there’s no glass on the ground where you are, the glass is on the other side, so that leads me to believe that the runaway didn’t break out but something broke in

[@alyphim]

Honestly if this isn't confirmation I don't know what would be. Sometimes there are details in the game that you can't take too seriously without more evidence, but the nuance here is that this is directly touching on one of the longest standing debates in the franchise they have to know that's how it would be interpreted.

[@sammirenegade]

Just pre-ordered!

[@ScorpionTamer]

I like the theory that the one who ran away was Michael after the Crying Child's death because I've been meaning to try and gather evidence for a theory I have that we are actually playing as Michael in Fnaf 4 and not the crying child. My main evidence right now being the fact we've been playing as Mike from the beginning of the series up to this point. I don't think the theory would have any important lore implications if true, outside of helping support other theories like Dual Process's theory that William took CC from the hospital which people mostly believe can't be true because of the hospital hallucinations in fnaf 4 (which if you're wondering how I explain that in my Mike is the fnaf 4 protag theory, it's because of the hallucinogenic gas/ sound discs/ whatever William was using to create hallucinations at this point in the lore. It's a bit hard to keep up with. The reason Mike is seeing stuff from a hospital is because is because he's been to see crying child, he's seen the current state his brother is in and feels guilty for what he did. So as a side effect of his dad punishing him with nightmare hallucinations, he is also subconsciously punishing himself with hallucinations of CC's hospital room.) The only thing that make this theory feel weak (outside of my current lack of un-circumstantial evidence) is the CC minigames that show the story from CC's perspective. I mean, they could just be there for the sake of lore, I mean there are several minigames in the other games that have you playing as various characters. But, that does feel like a lazy write off and I need something a bit more load bearing before I go handwaving one of the biggest parts of the game, that being said, it is my current headcanon that Mike is the fnaf 4 protag.

[@CodexisInkwind]

On the sinkhole level, its unlikely to have been completely forgotten. A place like that would still get talked about and turn into rumor And we were told in the original help wanted that the first few games now exist in world as games mainly to try and make the events seem like a made up story. I wouldnt put it past the current iteration of fazbear management to try and hide the sinkhole's existanxe as a real thing by making it a game level. Thus making anyone that tries to talk about it seem like they are overrhinking a game

[@Parallelocam]

My theory is it's William's father when William was still a kid, and that some carnival worker from fallfest kidnapped William through his window Door was locked from the inside yet the window was broken - that tells me it's a break in, not a break out William's psychotic tendencies have to start somewhere and to me it's clear it's going to be related to the fallfest carnival. I'm guessing William burns the place down in order to escape captivity, and the trauma results in him becoming obsessed with the circus animals like the lion and penguin costumes leading to animatronic animals

[@y-vna]

i love fnaf, its lore, and SOME of the community. Looking through lore video COMMENTS are still disappointing because some people still think everything they believe is facts just because it's widely agreed on or accepted. A lot of things aren't confirmed, so don't claim your take on the lore is the only right one 😀 the youtube theorists content creators in the community are awesome tho, literally all the ones I watch are very open-minded and interesting to watch!

[@neptuneplaneptune3367]

Seeing the Puppet, meaning Charlie, driving Willioms car is a bid morbid considering it was probably one of the last things she ever saw with her own eyes before her death

[@jchacho6335]

Just a thought…what if Michael was never a “bully”/ what if William made Mike scare his brother on purpose while wearing the foxy mask to help make CC (or Dave) afraid of the Animatronics. He is always wearing that mask….

[@derrickdaniels3955]

That would make sense but then why should Mike get his friends involved with that?

[@jchacho6335]

@@derrickdaniels3955 he was a kid. He only had them involved that one time as far as we know.

[@higueraft571]

@@jchacho6335 >to help make CC (or Dave) afraid of the Animatronics This was almost definitely not what caused his fear, it was something mundane that a normal child could develop a fear of, rather than an intentional or actual incident. More likely, Michael was getting abused and took it out on his brother, as bullies typically do. With William practically trying to start a feud between the two (telling CC how much his brother hates him, which is clearly not the case), and how the Bite was definitely something planned by Michael with immediate regrets after it went south.

[@RandomDoodlesIDo]

12:24 Canonically; the Stitchwraith. Here me out on this one- there’s an easter egg in Into the Pit where, on night 1 (I think lol) if you stare at the window long enough, the Stitchwraith appears and just stares at you, locking Oswald in place. Who’s the game equivalent for the Stitchwraith? Golden Freddy/Yellow Bear. Who’s C.C./Dave’s imaginary friend? Fredbear/Yellow Bear. Maybe not a LOAD of evidence to back this up, but I’d say it makes a bit of sense.

[@thegreattater]

To your point about the sinkhole level being in the FLAF, I do wonder if this is following along the lines of Help Wanted where it's sponsored by Fazbear and making light of serious "allegations" of things that took place at the company to help their in-universe image. If so, I'm thinking it could be that rumors of a sinkhole under the Pizzaplex cropped up in-universe and this fun cart game can address them in a silly way. Just an idea though and I could be totally off base! Super stoked to play the full game when it's out. Great video as always!

[@Altsncro]

Order of events in my opinion with some reasoning included: 1) crying child is dead by this point. Micheal is having a "bad day" because of guilt and eveyrone knowing that he killed his own brother. William at this point is also drinking a whole lot because of CC dying and gets kicked out of JR (Its just a bar) 2) Completly wasted and being kicked out of the bar he drives to the freddy location and kills Charlotte in a druken stupor. (As to why? well he's drunk grieving and angry) 3) He drives back home still completely drunk (this is why the minigame is about driving and avoiding obsticles) 4) He looks for micheal being offended that (who he views to be a murderer) dares visit the grave of CC. TLDR: Crying child dies, William becomes alcoholic, kills charlotte while drunk, goes back home to proabaly beat micheal.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

William being drunk specfically when he goes over the edge and kills Charlie Emily makes a lot of sense. That's a sticking point in a lot of narratives. I feel like grief plus alcholic is sufficent if you don't think the mood swings in how he views Henry from Silver Eyes carries over to the games. Then he sees what happens and becomes the mad scientist type for the MCI and designing Baby. It also doesn't weaken his character because he's sober when he neglects David and when he does most of his murders.

[@JonathanTheTiger]

wait lemme just pray that toast takes awhile to release so i can get money to buy it

[@sexyschnidden9702]

beginning of december

[@Heeru02]

this may be far fetched but after Into The Pit came out, I thought the runaway was Oswald and the minigame was about his family. Oz runs away too, to the pizzeria every night to ‘save’ his dad and he sees Spring Bonnie in place of his father, who’s an animatronic. He has to sneak out thru the window too. Also could explain why the person you control is golden with that said, I haven’t read the book the game is based on, so it was just a thought

[@Jerrickd]

What if Midnight Motorist is the story of Andrew/Vengeful Spirit "Cassidy"? The Orange sprite could actually be a "Gold" sprite, and be the Vengeful Spirit's father, in reference to Golden Freddy. That would also explain why there's only one set of footprints outside the window, because Golden Freddy is a springlock suit and was never an animatronic, and therefore could only appear as an apparition (in this case, probably standing outside the window). Maybe the Vengeful Spirit was sneaking out at night to Freddy's to escape his abusive home life, and came to be fascinated with the Golden Freddy character that wasn't used anymore. If he had a home life like this, perhaps that would also explain his anger as the Vengeful Spirit.

[@AUGHMiller]

My theory is that the mustard man is William afton, the person at the couch is Mrs afton, and the runaway would be Michael afton, Like stated in the video. Michael would be much more willing to jump out a window and lock his door. If it was after the bite of the crying child, William would obviously be furious and possibly abusive towards Michael. But where did Michael run off too? I believe he either just ran away in the moment of fear and panic/wanting to be gone for a bit, too a Freddy’s location to work (against his fathers will) or he also saw the nightmare animatronics. You may ask “what?? Nightmare animatronics?” Yes. I personally believe the weird lump of dirt in the mini game is actually an animatronic. In the silver eyes, the animatronics buried tbemselves in the day, and came out at night. In the story mentioned in the video, the animatronics are plastic and smoothe, until the gas kicks in. In the books, they fit the same description. It may be day time despite the rain and darkness. Michael may have broken out of his window in fear. I would too if there was a crazy robot here at night with nobody believing me.

[@XhanAnimations]

I did always think the crying child was a weird choice because of his animatronic fears but everything else lined up well. So the Michael Afton idea is wayyy better