Did Steel Wool Say Glitchtrap is OVER?! | Freddy Fazbear Pizza Podcast

[@RLane-xz5cj]

As a parent myself, "troubleshooting" is the exact correct way to describe caring for an infant. Are you hungry? Tired? Growing? Itchy? Gassy? Bored? Do you just want to be held sideways for some reason?????

[@samanthaojeda2946]

Vanny turning on Glitchtrap is kind of reminiscent of Eleanor ditching the Afton amalgamation, both being loyal followers at one point

[@bellslimes]

Phrasing 😭😭

[@artbyphobia]

Yeah, kinda cool, though I do miss Glitchtrap and hope to see more of Afton in the future (or mimic depending on what you believe)

[@_snail9234]

Also in the fnaf movie, Vanessa's actor's name was Elizabeth which I thought was awesome and a cool coincidence

[@bellslimes]

@@_snail9234 elizabeth lail is so hot bro i can’t 😭

[@Ya_Girl_Ellie0372]

I agree 😂

[@kurokamina8429]

My head canon for the whole vanny destroying glitchtrap situation is that Gregory did free vanessa from glitchtrap but he didn't save her from vanny. Either A. Vanny has become her own identity separate from glitchtrap that is trying to claw her way back out of vanessa or B. (Which is horrifying) Vanessa secretly liked being Vanny. She was terrified at first but missed the strange feeling it gave her to kill. It's something we've seen in media and even theorized about William.

[@TheMikl123]

This is basically what I thought ever since I saw the Help Wanted 2 ending

[@emeraldqueen1994]

“I will put you back together” sounds like you’re talking to a broken toy / machine

[@Syl518]

So what is everyone's thoughts on how "Gregory" hears Helpi in Ruin? Cassie speaks to "Gregory" through a walkie, and Helpi "speaks" through the VANNI mask (or through Cassie's eye, yikes). Not only would Helpi have to say things aloud, but Cassie would have to be holding the button on the walkie to transmit its voice.

[@Finallaten12142]

I do think Afton did care about his children just not in a normal parent way. He probably "cared" but in a way of how he felt pride from having them or something similar.

[@paul-burger8269]

He probably cared for them more as "tools" than children

[@Greatwolfpearl123]

My main thoughts were that he probably thinks a successful family makes him look good.

[@birdmcturd1626]

He wouldn't promise to put them back together if he didn't. He at least cared about CC but just because you care, doesn't mean you're a good person

[@BoliVic96]

we love messy Rye, it's like the true enbodiement of this franchise lmao

[@WPFLAWLESS]

I actually love hearing the Tea on the croutons.(Kids) Hearing parents (who aren't constantly trying to one up other parents) talk about their kids is genuinely fun for me. Like be proud of your lil bebbies.

[@AmzzNotFound]

You baking something - my brain- in the furnace of theories I high key actually love it

[@PositiveNihilism.]

Was Vanny Ever Loyal? I think it was a Straight up Back stab. She Took The One Being that Controlled her, Smashed Him, Now she's Free To do Whatever she Wants. If Princess quest is Canon, And if The Princess is Vanessa, Not Cassidy. Vanny is Booted out of Vanessa, Vanessa is Saved, or whatever happened to her. And Vanny is Sent To The Digital Plane. Vanny Knows How Glitchtrap Possessed Vanessa, To Get out into the Real world, I think Vanny Made the V.A.N.N.I masks, Since she Did Make her Own Mask in The Dread Bear DLC, So she Could Have Made More, to Do a More effective job of Taking someone Over. Literally Hacking people out of their minds, Getting All the Info outta them. Distracting Said mind with what they Want To See. And Now That Vanny is Free From Glitchtrap's Control. Vanny can Just Do the Same thing Glitchtrap Did. But If Multiple People have Worn The V.A.N.N.I Mask, Had a Chip inside Their heads. Vanny Can Just Hop from One Candidate to another, Or have them all work as a Collective Hive mind.

[@PositiveNihilism.]

A Question I ask is this: How Did Mimic-Gregory Talk to Helpi through the Roxy-talkie, When Helpi was inside our Head?

[@Glossy_Mossy]

Why Did You Format It Like This?

[@gaminganimators7000]

W T F Is This

[@gaminganimators7000]

Is there a way you can write using a 'pen' or did you type this weirdly?

[@Some_random_Stickman]

@@Glossy_Mossy well it’s easier to read

[@GaurdianPrime]

Rye, just a thought... but, could Vanessa be so scarred/traumatized from her time as Vanny that she developed a distorted view where Glitchtrap is concerned? Even though violence would be out of character for Vanessa, her visceral reaction to Glitchtrap could cause her to lash out at him, and by association, anyone he's possessing.

[@Twistedslop62]

I think the “glitchtrap escape” ending is the true ending because the protagonist becomes the mask bot. Feels like the most purposeful ending. If that makes sense.

[@barbadroid]

8:25 like, literally main thing for podcast is to yap, you're good at yapping - you're good at podcasts, DON'T WORRY ABOUT "TIME LOSS", WE'RE ALL HERE FOR RAMBLING

[@Permanently_paper]

Maybe it was the “The death of glitchtrap” BUT not the death of the Mimic1 program. So essentially maybe glitchtrap is dead in a sense that the persona is dead and the new persona is Helpi for the mimic1 program to disguise itself. That’s what I’m thinking.

[@westoncooldude1682]

Bro is this in English

[@gameslayer3976]

@@westoncooldude1682yeah I could read it fine.

[@JustABroom]

Yeah, Glitchtrap was killed, but he's more a root of the whole issue of the Mimic1 program, which also shows just how dangerous it can get with enough influence, you can even see this in Ruin with The Mimic and how deceiving he was to Cassie. Honestly they could go a lot of directions with it.

[@Brickblock200]

I think "I will put you back together " Is mike saying that he'll get his brother his happiest day, him getting friends, and going to the afterlife.

[@AirQuotes2962]

The way I interpret the Princess Quest 4 ending is that Cassie's Dad is intentionally giving himself up. Essentially, it takes place after his body has been destroyed by the STAFF bots, so he has nowhere else to go. The books consistently have someone's mind living on in a digital space, so I think that's what happened to him-he accidentally helped Glitchtrap, Glitchtrap betrayed him and killed him, his mind then moved on digitally in the VANNI network and started the Princess Quest 4 ending. In that ending, the 'trade' that is mentioned by the King at the end is that Cassie's Dad is intentionally giving himself up for Vanessa. Essentially, he is standing in for the Princess (who I still believe to be Cassidy) and trading his own life and freedom for that of Vanessa, since he has nowhere else to return to. That's why Vanny crushes the Glitchtrap in the end-it symbolizes how Glitchtrap is allowing the part of him in Vanessa to die completely, letting Vanny fade into darkness and disappear, leaving Cassie's Dad behind.

[@Cysubtor_8vb]

To me, it feels like you made a leap in logic for the prototype Freddy. It could be true, but Cassie doesn't interact with Freddy like the others and the prototype even disappears like the obstructions that don't exist when wearing the mask. There is the argument that Freddy is in safe mode, which makes him not appear, but that clashes with why he would attack you if not connected to the network to be corrupted.

[@gingerfeliciano9531]

Aw I absolutely love hearing about papa Rye being a good dad ❤ the way you described horn honking to not knowing what the baby needs is so true and It's really great to see other people get that.

[@SuperlexPlays]

*I started my channel because of you* RyeToast!

[@reddie1705]

Dawg you're reaction farming SO hard 😭 "Thanks for 3 like and 0 subscriber!"

[@HyperHardHead]

Your oldest video is older than RyeToast's...

[@WPFLAWLESS]

I think that the Freddy we see in ruin was just in a different shell , they more than established that they have different endoskeletons that they can put into any animatronic the shell from SB was destroyed so it would make sense for an endo that KNOWS that he's supposed to be Glamrock Freddy to seek out a new shell to inhabit.

[@loganentertainment1814]

In a sense, Glitchtrap is a mimic of William, despite THE William being gone for good. Even though he’s dead, his evil and the effects of his sins still lives on. Glitchtrap is just a manifestation of it all. Even though William is rotting in hell, he always comes back, literally and figuratively. Edit: When Vanny crushes Glitchtrap, a puff of smoke is seen. It’s similar to how Shadow Bonnie dies in FNAF AR, he explodes in a puff of smoke. It could be a coincidence m, but I thought I’d bring it up.

[@karma-4730]

Couldn’t it be Glitchtrap just get copied into a proper body in the Mimic(a la normal ending of Help Wanted 2) then, Vanny kills the digital remnants after(Princess Quest ending)

[@wrenreed9310]

I've never really thought about it, but you're right about William's line, "I will put you back together." It very specifically is not something like "I will save you" or "I will heal you". He's not treating CC like a human son, but rather like a broken toy.

[@prettybathwater]

i just graduated and have been catching up on your context the past few days since i was so busy during the last few weeks of school i got so behind 😭😖 but a little random, i love listening to your toast-family updates, your kids are really similar ages to my siblings so it’s nice hearing stories and obviously i can’t relate cuz im not the parent but i can understand to a certain degree. love your videos ryetoast❤

[@rollncast2740]

When you spoke about the few iterations of William Afton. You forgot the movie version which was equally abusive.

[@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome]

Something about running out of tangible material to talk about in the fnaf world has been spawning the BEST micro-discussions about the franchise and tangential topics 😮

[@littlemoondarling]

This has nothing to do with fnaf but honestly the patience you have with your child is admirable I'm honestly so happy that your kid has such great parents

[@Spencycle]

Craziness warning: what if Ruin DIDN'T actually happen? The PQ 4 ending also has Charlie implications, with the green Theodore plushie, a Nightmare Puppet plush behind a pillar, and the Puppet's face on the final door, and Charlie was a part of Glitchtrap, so it would make sense for her to die alongside him. This is the canon and good ending. Meanwhile, the bad ending is Ruin. I mean literally, Ruin IS the bad ending, because that's where Cassie's dad fails and does the opposite of what he's supposed to in HW 2. That, in turn, brings his daughter down. In Ruin, you also see more Puppet plushies, meaning the Charlie virus is till alive. So my hunch is that since PQ 4 is the good ending, it would be the canon one unless Steel Wool is doing something weird here. Also, can we just talk about how Ruin adds NOTHING to the story? I mean, it gave us information about the inner workings of the Pizzaplex, but overall the plot is just: kid goes too deep into building, gets killed in elevator, is down there forever. That's how it is with every ending. Brazil Ending: she puts on the Mask, then presumably gets killed. Scooper ending: she gets the Mimic off her tail, but has no way of getting back up to the surface. Everyone thought Steel Wool was going to build on that ending, but nope. Instead they've been focusing on the PAST of the story, giving us info about Fall Fest and with the Into the Pit game, but nothing related to Ruin has been teased. I suspect that Ruin's whole point was to give the information necessary to understand HW 2, as if we had gone straight into HW 2 without that info, we'd be completely lost. This is probably also connected to the fact that at the end of Ruin, you go too deep down and end up at a red lake, which COULD be the OMC lake...? That would be a parallel to how Ruin is the CONSEQUENCE of Cassie's dad's failure. It's probably also connected to the Candy Cadet stories. The one about the witch and the girl is probably talking about the PQ 4 ending, but the other one about a family dying because they didn't buy the pizza is the bad ending. Cassie's dad misses the most important opportunity in his life (killing Glitchtrap) and because of that, his whole family is demised, because his daughter dies later on in Ruin. You can't have both endings be canon because in one, he takes the opportunity and gets the memories, but in the other, he does the opposite, setting himself up to be taken by Glitchtrap. So overall, my take is that PQ 4 is the canon and good ending while Ruin is the bad ending and not canon. Pls don't call me slurs in the replies🥲 Also, I think Vanny killing Glitchtrap in HW 2 might be symbolism? Like, it's not her, there in real-time, killing Glitchtrap, it's just a metaphor for her finally being free and victorious after years of her struggles with Glitchtrap and the Mimic1 program?

[@HoldenDude123]

I think instead of Cassie being possessed and corrupted into being the next Vanny, it would be cool if Cassie believes that Gregory was the one who dropped the elevator leading to her becoming a villain due to what happened to her and the other Glamrocks

[@ourbravestboy]

If Glitchtrap is actually gone and Vanny is still within the system could she be trying to keep Jeremy’s consciousness there and try to take over his body? It raises a lot of questions especially dealing with motive at this point, why work with the mimic while destroying glitchtrap

[@Greatwolfpearl123]

I submitted the last question, my thoughts were that he sees a happy family as a way to show success or something like that. That he’s be upset that his children die because it doesn’t reflect on him well. He seems very selfish to me

[@shelbybayer200]

I think Jeremy didn't know helping her would make him lose his life. It's ILLOGICAL for him to even know, also Vanny was never truly loyal. Vanny is called an "Unwilling Follower"

[@ljames430_]

My theory is that the Vanny persona realized that what she was worshipping the whole time wasn't actually Afton like she had thought, but was actually the Mimic-01 program, so she removed the Afton persona from the Mimic, which is what was displayed in the HW2 ending. Just a thought tho

[@matthewgrobel5587]

Glitchtrap doesn’t feel like an old enemy in the franchise, in 2019 when glitchtrap was a new enemy William Afton felt like an old enemy five years into the franchise even though we only “officially” met him in FNAF 3. His actions permeated through ALL of the franchise, but due to the confusion of mimic or glitchtrap he kinda feels like more of a background enemy, not as important and like he hasn’t been around that long. Development has also shifted to quality over quantity with FNAF games, not to say 1-6 are bad, so that also plays a factor.

[@hircenedaelen]

I really like your idea of VANNI trying to use the mimic as a host

[@rifarira9160]

WAIT WHAT? HW WAS 5 YEARS AGO?! WHY ITS FEEL LIKE ITS JUST HAPPENED LAST YEARS?!!

[@jr2bad2b]

So I think the glitchtrap ending with him coming out of the charging pod might mean that he was uploaded into burn trap and burn trap was taken by the tangle so he may control that now, corrupted helpi is Vanny, and the mimic is the Mimic. Maybe the vanny persona wants to free the mimic to use it as a body for its personality. Of course there’s holes in this theory

[@jacobippolito3224]

My take on it is that the first ending happens at the start of Ruin, creating Glitchtrap Helpi and turning Jeremy into Mask Bot. From there he stays in the code for an unknown amount of time and with Mystic Hippo’s help he does PQ4 sometime after Ruin but before whatever the next game is, killing Helpi

[@hxlfghxst]

You inspire me honestly Rye! you’re one of the reasons i started my own channel!

[@toastedperfection2488]

My thoughts on Help Wanted 2's endings was this: HelpTrap happens first which leads into Ruin, then the Vanny ending happens after Ruin. I believe this because of a detail in Help Wanted 2's Vanny Ending - How it starts. You start off locked in a room by Glitchtrap that the Princess frees you from. I think it's clear that Glitchtrap locked you in there because of the glitchy key and green lock. Glitchy green is something I think calls back to Glitchtrap. This means that some point before the events of the Vanny Ending, Glitchtrap sealed you in that room. This also isn't the first time he's done this because if you think back on the original Help Wanted, it ends when you assemble Glitchtrap, he gets you, and then locks you in a room. This room later gets unlocked by the Princess in Security Breach's Princess Quest III minigame. Considering Glitchtrap has you locked in the room at the start of the Vanny Ending of Help Wanted 2, this implies that prior to the events of that ending- you assembled Glitchtrap i.e. The HelpTrap ending- The ending where you assemble him and he attacks you with Nightmarionne S.T.A.F.F. Bots. When I first saw that ending I didn't notice, but that ending is still in the AR World despite LOOKING like it's in the Real World. You can tell because the Recharge Station just magically manifests in front of you, as does the Nightmarionne S.T.A.F.F. Bots around you (+ Glitchtrap as far as we know so far doesn't exist in the Real World). The reason why I think the Vanny ending is after Ruin as well as just the HelpTrap ending is because I just think there's less issues that way. Helpi in HW2 is almost definitely Glitchtrap so when you see Mask Bot give the V.A.N.N.I. Mask to Cassie, I think it's a safe assumption that the Helpi in that mask is also Glitchtrap. That would mean Glitchtrap is still around by Ruin which itself would mean him dying in the Vanny ending either does not happen or has not happened yet. Considering the recent interview I think the latter is more likely.

[@patrickgardner2204]

14:25 dude, please, don't, you're making me feel old :( I remember it like yesterday when HW was released. It still feels new.

[@Defense-2100]

Mini theory when vanny killed glitch trap he escapes into the real world from the other ending because he always comes back

[@bananashoplifter3440]

"ladies, gentlemen, and those with the good sense to do away with the whole notion" Huh? the hell does that mean

[@axilia203]

The notion is gender Ryetoast is non binary, they're saying a silly intro

[@AlcyoneEtaTauri]

Even Rye's sexuality is a bread pun.

[@MaddMoke]

I would love to be in on the Steel Wool brainstorming sessions before Ruin and HW2. Even if I couldn't tell anyone else. I just imagine they have a full compete story on postit notes and they all agree. And then they go and flip the order of all notes, take some off, and add some new notes in random spots that say "Monte calls you 'friend'" or "Glitchtrap eats an ice cream cone" just to mess with everyone.

[@patonnight]

They just described what happened in the Princess Quest 4 ending cutscene. It never stated that is what happened in the actual story.

[@birdmcturd1626]

Also,what about Cassie? There was a voice in the pause menu talking to her before she put on the Vanni mask that I strongly suspect was Glitchtrap. Maybe they just mean the Glitchtrap in the system is destroyed? William could very well be a narcissist so maybe he (as Vanny) believes he is the only real William. Like Twice from MHA

[@maxgosselin62]

The achievement at the end of the PQ4 ending implies that glitchtrap was a virus of some kind that's controlling the mimic program. What if Helpy is the mimic program as a whole, with Vanny (who I suspect may be a mimicked version of Elizabeth transferred out from baby via that chip) being the original dominant personality? What if in the glitch trap ending, the glitch trap virus exports from the mimic program into a new physical body, AND THEN Vanny destroys the virus in the original program. This way, "Glitch trap" as a digital Afton is gone, but the entity formerly KNOWN as glitchtrap takes on a new form as a new PHYSICAL villain?

[@GendoRokabundi]

Random speculation: The non-Vanny ending is actually Vanny coming out of the pod. The disembodied Vanny persona kills Glitchtrap and uses his plan to escape into the VANNI network The discussion of the Vanny ending mirrors the Ruin elevator ending. Having to leave someone behind, in an elevator, to prevent the release of a monster.

[@ciboria1]

"What was Jeremy Fitzgerald's last willing action? And where was the control lost?" I feel those are two direct questions that could shed light on so much of the context to HW2

[@Brilchan]

the kid story was really adorable thanks for sharing

[@piratebones9641]

I think Jeremy was just a ghost in the machine, the first memory is a representation of how he die, the second ending is what happens in the system afterwards

[@v0idtea]

vanny's name is on the walls in the ruined pizzaplex in spray paint, so vanny probably does exist post-glitchtrap? at least that's how i see it. but that just raises so many questions

[@zenvariety9383]

Could be that Vanessa is still brainwashed along with Gregory.

[@exode7414]

I like that theory on b72 and this would explain the different cutscenes in security breach where vanny and vanasa are together.

[@hadeszero4526]

I still think you are just hearing recorded audio from where the wet floor bots (pat pats) were standing at the time. You are as we know in the digital world of the pizza plex after all.

[@TwinMajora]

I respect that you put a giant disclaimer before you start talking about the "too far gone" comment, but I just don't think that was implied. The emphasis was more about how Cassie's nature contrasts to Gregory's and how she implicitly tries to heal/help rather than she is just "undoing" what Gregory has done. When Jtop said Freddy is too far gone, I feel he's just saying she can't help the Freddy animatronic (or the Monty one) that she encounters.

[@NonelyTM]

“…I’m not even bi, I’m pan. What the fuck, I’m supposed to be able to sit right…”

[@zackaryw8407]

Toast, I’m new here, but you can be your true authentic self here. It doesn’t have to be all FNAF all the time. It’s okay to share your joys and woes of parenthood.

[@fan.of.nintendo]

I like this upload time, actually. It lines up perfectly with my lunch break

[@Steel1_St]

Why would they kill him off,It's going to make it harder for them to explain the events in ruin without glitchtrap,God i hope they just meant hes dead IN THIS ENDING alone and that the glitchtrap coming out of the recharge station is canon.Also i think the reason that people are calling Glitchtrap a new villain is that aside from the books and a few cameos here and there in different games,We never really see what his personality is like,Nor do we see the iconic mascot suit again.Also dont even argue about it being an AI making it impossible for it having a personality because he was threatening Vanessa 24/7.

[@monstrdog7031]

Dead in that ending or in Jeremy perhaps?

[@bubbleshock14]

Finally caught up with this podcast lol. As for why Vanessa would leave the HW2 protagonist behind, maybe Freddy and Monty aren't the only ones who are too far gone. Not to necessarily say he is evil, but more like how Freddy is too beyond repair but he was a good guy

[@LittleLexi24]

It could mean that what we were calling Glitchtrap has transformed into something new

[@skywares]

Dude I KNEW youd be making a video as soon as that steelwool interview dopped!!!

[@RaglandIncorporated]

Maybe we are thinking of it as two endings when in reality, it's 2 parts of the same story. Roll with me here. We DON'T see how long is in between Jeremy getting jumped by the staff bots and becoming Mask Bot. What if the time line is as follows: Jeremy, trying to fix this mess, goes into the system and screws up. He gets caught by Glitchtrap (who is still in the Pizzaplex systems) and is infected by Glitchtrap. With the Vanni Mask still active though, the Jeremy personality is in the system and continues the fight inside, eventually finding the poppets and unlocking the new Princess Quest, all digital manifestations of Afton's past (since Glitchtrap seems to want to be Afton in some way). We get through to THAT ending, and we see Vanni, a personality on it's own now (as established, if the SB Princess Quest ending is cannon). She kills Glitchtrap because now, she isn't Vanessa and Vanni, she is JUST Vanni, and Glitchtrap is competition. She destroys Glitchtrap, maybe subsuming some part of him, before leaving Jeremy STILL trapped in the system. THEN, we see Jeremy flipping through Staff Bots until he comes to Mask Bot, and what does he see? Vanni, the evil personality that she is, is convincing Cassie to put on the mask, to help try to give her a new body to possess, just like Glitchtrap did. If the idea for this new set of games is possession, viruses and AI personalities, it actually makes a lot more of the games before make even more sense. Jeremy IS the game tester. The reason for Gregory being so confused, his true personality only just got back to himself. The mimic is an AI personality on its own and we know why it doesn't like Vanni, because these AI personalities DON'T like each other. These new games are technological warfare between AIs with humans as pawns and bodies as needed.

[@t3chbr0shadow]

Finishing PQ4 shows us that after a certain point, getting rid of the starting influence doesnt work anymore. Even if we get rid of glitchtrap, Vanni leaves us. Shes too far into her serial killer position, and Gregory is with her. What if they became a serial killer duo as a dark reflection to Mike and his sister in the fnaf movie, or like William and his daughter in that movie Edit: I just realized if we go along these lines, the story of Security Breach is this: Gregory was already taken over and operating in the Pizza Plex. Vanni gets into the system via glitchtrap, but she must have been planning her own mission. Lets say Freddy's glitch is to crank his helpfulness to 11, even though Gregory is very obviously bad and keeps destroying the animatronics. I feel like Vanni was trying to do a full reset on the system, but Gregory escaping means that theres a part of glitchtrap still running amuck trying to escape

[@annabelle2523]

The robot Helpy has the chip you remove from Baby, right? So maybe that's a hint that the virtual Helpy is Baby somehow? idk

[@HH-sn5qp]

Cassie is probably one of the most likable characters. I’m really hoping she pulls through (and doesn’t become evil)

[@zenvariety9383]

It probably depends if she gets brainwashed or not. It's possible that Gregory and Vanessa are still brainwashed and will probably use and repurpose Glamrock Freddy for whatever Glitchtrap wants.

[@HH-sn5qp]

@@zenvariety9383 the only reason I think she wouldn’t become an antagonist is because of how she was talked about in the interview. Gregory being the one who hurts and Cassie being a healer.

[@heatheroutre]

24:26 Grimic says "yeah with my help!" Not that he actually upgraded Helpi

[@heatheroutre]

28:12 i agree, vanni could be trying to get the perfect body, the mimic. If she were to get a super strong robot body that only has code for a mind, she could wipe that and take over with no issues

[@artbyphobia]

Vanny and Vanessa both use “he” and “it” pronouns for Glitchtrap, if Glitchtrap was truely Afton or at least a part of him, then the Afton side of him is gone, or maybe Glitchtrap entirely. We see the purple coding in RUIN, and MXES looks and acts a whole lot like Glitchtrap, has same poses ect. So, it’s sort of confusing. I still believe that Glitchtrap is both Afton and Mimic, sort of fused together. (Remember steel wool said respect others opinions), it just depends on what your views are. That leaves one question though; they didn’t specify if that was the cannon ending though. We see Cassie being handed the mask in RUIN which is one of HelpWanted2’s endings… So Glitchtrap still being around might be a possibility. Controversial but as I research more about MXES I really think he’s not just a program but possibly Glitchtrap 2.0 but instead of being stuck in VR he’s in AR now

[@JohnEE_Gaming]

William wasn’t even at CC’s birthday party if he was the bite would never have happened he would have stopped them from putting him in fredbears mouth surly

[@hebbycakes]

My bug 🐛 is nearly 4 weeks old, definitely hearing you!

[@yo-gamerboy7916]

We have seen Vanny and Vanessa as two different ppl in one sb. The ending when you collect (I think) all the collectibles

[@tropezando]

Glitchtrap is V.A.N.N.I. is the Mimic is Radagon is Marika is Ness. BUT THAT'S JUST A THEORY, A GA--

[@imachair4681]

I feel like people think of Vanny wrong. Like a lot of talk about Vanny as something attatched to glitchtrap. But I feel like she exists as a result of glitchtrap, but not directly correlated. Vanessa compartmentalized the trauma related to having glitchtrap in her head, acting on his whims to avoid the pain, but separating it for her own sanity. Getting rid of glitchtrap (in my OPINION) wouldn’t get rid of Vanny. She still exists in Vanessa’s mind, but no longer working for someone else

[@creekkid42]

The way I always interpreted the Vanny/Vanni stuff in Ruin was that post princess quest, Vannessa reclaims the Vanny persona for herself and for good (or at least her own means). She still has Vanny "powers" (what ever those might be) and she uses them with Gregory to capture the Mimic and repurpose the MXES computer to guard it. MXES is possibly where Glitchtrap "lives" and Vanny uses her Vanny powers and Gregory's hacking skills to turn Glitchtrap into the MXES rabbit we see. Now instead of doing Glitchtraps bidding, Vanny is the protector of the pizzaplex. It's also possible that Vanny separated from Vanessa, and the rest of my theory still applies. Vanny is the digital caretaker still in the pizzaplex, and that digital entity of Vanny is the "friend" Gregory refers to at the end of Ruin. Either way, in HW2, Vanny is using Jeremy as a tool to get rid of the aftony virus part of Glitchtrap and repurpose it for their goal of guarding the Mimic. It's also possible that the game play of HW2 is actually retraining the Mimic ai (Mxes) to be "good". The Vanni mask connects the technician to the digital world in MXES and Jeremy replaces Glitchtrap. He is a rabbit after all....

[@PERIX_QR]

20:50 Maybe vanny felt betrayed or smthn so he turned ig Gtrap

[@moisesbustos3152]

Even if u thought u were late on the upload you were just on time for the all nighter before my database final! Thanks toast

[@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome]

This is a real high point of my week

[@Tatourice1]

Complete different theory, have we considered help wanted 1, then sister loaction, security breach, then help wanted 2; as a separate contained story standpoint. Help wanted 1 ending being stuffed into "the one, the only, the only-ly-ly---" might not be Freddy. Possible it's golden since we have the one scene of crying child storage room fnaf 4, However, we see one major character with a mic in this series. Security breach, comedic styling of - STAFF Bot! And in ruin, that bot has disappeared, with a random giant endo clawing from the screen and stage to the audience. Hit up help wanted 2, the only time we see through a STAFF Bot, is to give a mask. I know Scott doesn't do coincidences, steel wool is pretty on it, just makes me question. And for sister location, of course, you get scooped. They thought I was you, as Michael states. If this is what's known, Jeremy has a solid chance of being the developer to have a face chopped, stuffed into a staff bot, and help his daughter. Questions arise though, mainly, Jeremy may be help wanted 1, and or 2, Would line up if he got stuffed from help wanted 1, was comedy bot, and then in ruin to give Cassie her mask, But sister location would have no meaning since it's Michael, and very clearly Michael we play as. How would Jeremy have any connection to sister location, unless he was one of the fazbear technicians that was found hanging on one of the last nights there?

[@MrFreemanWithBriefcase]

At this point, I don't know who to trust with theories. It's so overwhelming because literally someone from Steel Wool said 'bye bye' to glitchy, well, this isn't 100% confirmed about the fact of getting rid of him permanently IMO but if it should give us a clue that, yes, it's over with him. Look at this direction, but this direction where glichtrap is nomore literally doesn't exist is just exhausting. We see Glitchtrap's shadow in Vanny's room and also his PQ monster look. We literally made a simple conclusion with the Mask Bot ending from Help Wanted 2 and we are 100% certain that Mimic and Glitchtrap are the same, so how can one life without the other? i know that FNAF SB was rushed and changed a lot but i am tired just still don;t know what ending is real from sb becuase vanny still somewhere, glichtrap still somewhere, burntrap is somehow now a mimic. What is the point of cutscenes if they don't represent what happened !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it;s so frustrating how they treat thier villians, i like help wanted 1 a lot most becuase it;s just simple, after completing the game, I can tell what happened or what will happen And also a little thing that I saw on the internet: the theory that the Blob looks almost identical in size, limbs, and eyes position, like a Glitchtrap version from Princess Quest 1 from Security Breach. What if the blob is connected to him? Because, come on, I can't just believe that after Glitchtrap's great presence from Help Wanted 1 in FNAF Security Breach we literally don't see him, in Ruin only shadow and in Help Wanted 2 he dies xD

[@GingyPreston]

Lets go a rye toast theory after the steel wool interveiw!

[@mikadoodlyd00]

When you said helpi might be Vanny, I thought about the confusing SB fire ending with two Vanessa and in HW2, we see Helpi running away from a fire (if I remember correctly) sooooo? Idk 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ridtom6055]

Thanks for answering!

[@kaffeine_kween]

my dad did the same thing with my older brother when he was a baby, he would go sit with him on the couch and watch something and they would fall asleep together

[@Th3_onceler]

I think that I might be going crazy but while playing hw2 bonk a bon hard mode, I hear glitch traps hello from hw1. Not sure if I’m just hearing things but I have not heard anyone else talk about it.

[@jazibunart]

Infinity Nikki, my beloved, causing Rye to freak out about a potential new fnaf game is SO funny Because yeah that was the 10th year anniversary game and it's from a long series of mobile fashion dress up games

[@Momo_Minomo]

We don't know when most of HW2 happened so it's possible BOTH HW2 endings are canon with a time gap in between. Cassie's dad probably went missing BEFORE the pizzaplex shut down so it's possible that the HW2 Burntrap ending happened during the original events of Security Breach and then the Vanny ending happened post-ruin. That would allow the Helpi we see in Ruin be Glitchtrap after its attempt to escape into a body was foiled by Gregory and the Tangle. It makes far more sense that the version of Cassie's dad we see fuse with PQ4 and inside the claw machine is the digital imprint of him that was uploaded into the Maskbot. 26:59 Also... you did say you suspect you're on the spectrum. We with 'tism are kinda notorious for our weird ways of sitting. I had a doctor mistake me for an amputee before because the weird way I was sitting made it look like I was missing a leg below the knee 😂

[@TransJazzyTime]

"help wanted is 5 years old, fnaf is 10 years old" STOP STOP PLEASE DONT MAKE ME FEEL OLD!!! I GOT FLASHES OF MARKS FIRST FNAF THUMBNAIL AND THE MEMORY OF SEEING IT BEING UPLOADED LIKE A DAY EBFORE I FOUND IT

[@ebthebluealt]

I think Vanny in the destroy glitchtrap ending is just the vanny persona disappearing, not actually a real person or entity

[@yelloworange3125]

Maybe both endings happen The claw machine: you let glitchtrap out and vanny takes him down Could easily be the symbolism of the helptrap ending then vanny takes him down later

[@darththespian4856]

What if Jeremy’s body was already gone with the transformers ending? What if Vanessa had no choice but to leave? There would be nowhere for him to go. Thinking that both endings happened

[@matti.8465]

I disagree with William. If CC died first, I don't think there's anything against William being a loving father who completely spiralled out of grief. That's more compelling than him being terrible all the time.

[@TheEverythingEnthuiast]

god i hope so. and if not Glitchtrap should fight the Mimic like Gojo fought Sukuna

[@azimuddin1890]

What if he is the Mimic? What if he’s also EvanBearCC (nicknamed for F.N.A.F.4’s protagonist), Aubergine Man Jr (Michael Schmidt), Aubergine Man (William Afton), Dr.Horrid Henry Danger Stickman, all versions of Charlotte (Web) (all her android versions, originals, technically (novel) Circus Baby, The Puppet ect ect.

[@TheEverythingEnthuiast]

@@azimuddin1890 i don't think he's the Mimic. there's too much evidence against it for me

[@danielzakgaim2764]

The Strongest Child Murderer in Histroy vs The Strongest Child Murderer of Today

[@bentoncozzi612]

Nah, I'd mimic.

[@marionette8739]

Yeah, in both the Silver Eyes Trilogy and the FNaF Movie, William is characterized as manipulative, abusive, and, perhaps, even neglectful. I will not hear of any William apologia, and I'm glad Rye agrees with me on this.

[@PotatOhNo]

I don't wanna spam this a bunch or anything, but I was hoping to get your opinion on this idea and so I'm copying my comment from a previous video. Could Help Wanted 2 have been a game recreation of Vanny pulling Glitchtrap out? Isolates the virus by collecting all the plushies, gets the Glitchtrap plushie, and gives it to Vanny. And if that's the case, where does that place Help Wanted 2 in the timeline? Or could there be two tracks? The first ending chronologically being him helping isolate the virus for Vanny, and the second ending being him getting put into the rabbimap bot.

[@taesquad4248]

14:55 the asthma joke caught me off guard😂😂

[@maxrandom5331]

Technically if glitchtrap is an artificial soul, it couldn't be destroyed, remnant can be destroyed but the souls can't. Maybe the fnaf universe takes some tibetan misticism cause an alternate personality with different characteristic is known as a tulpa,( a parallel entity inside one's head), could be that in the fnafverse a tulpa can survive without it's host, and be form just from whatever scraps remains of the host after death. Vanny would be Vanessa's tulpa, and Glitchtrap would be William's.

[@sirdrake1857]

I don't think Vanessa is "killing" Jeremy. All she does is lead him to make Glitchtrap vulnerable, kills him and then leaves Jeremy. She doesn't lead him to his death at all in this scenario (if both endings are canon, PQ would need to be after the bad one, so Jeremy would already be dead anyway, how could Vanessa even help him?) To me, the events go: SB > HW2 main ending (Jeremy becomes Mask Bot) > Ruin > HW2's PQ ending. That way, Glitchtrap stays Helpi the whole way through (remember, the main ending of HW2 is in the fixed lobby, meaning it's not real and Glitchtrap isn't literally coming out of a pod), Jeremy is still Maskbot, and Vanessa swoops in at the end to get rid of Glitchtrap once and for all now that Gregory and her knows where he is (or try to contact Cassie via her mask or something)

[@asheueland462]

My theory is that Vanny killed glitchtrap and left Jeremy bc she doesn't care about them anymore, she's giant like her ego and confidence now, she's like a new glitchtrap so to speak

[@Tatourice1]

I just thought of something very strange and probably irrelevant, That "Good ending" of help wanted 2, you get into that elevator, and get brought up into the prize machine you see after each game. We transitioned into princess quest 4, and even though it's real scale for us, it turns out we are tiny as an action figure. The only time I think this has also been somewhat relevant is Toy Chika in fnaf 4, the one with the missing beak. We only see her in game life size without a beak, Is it possible vanny is seeing someone in the machine, same way crying child did with Toy Chika? If Bonnie boy was her father, and if we play as her father in help wanted 2, idk why but just something really feels off with that scene, like he was the Toy chika, as to Vanny comparable to crying child. Just again, something seems really off with that ending. Not what we see happen, just what we see and don't question.

[@UrDad000]

I feel like afton is a kind of guy that would call himself a caring parent and believe it but he’s just way to selfish to actually be one