Did the Celtic Vampire Abhartach Inspire Dracula?

[@sandorsbox]

Vlad Draculea was not a fascist. He was a feudalist. The idea of fascism wasn't even conceived for centuries after Vlad Tepes died. He may have been a tyrant in the eyes of some, but we need to stop using the term fascist to describe anyone we think is a jerk.

[@rorschach1985ify]

Agreed. I don't know why that term was used, even Britain at the time cannot be called fascist, more imperialistic.

[@BrianLamar-es3my]

So it's okay to impale innocent peoples

[@waltonsmith7210]

Proto-fascist.

[@SFE3610]

The idea, your not something because it hasn't been conceived of yet is wild. Not that I disagree he was more feudalist for sure, but too say the term didn't exist so he wasn't a fascist is WILDLY inaccurate. 😂

[@sandorsbox]

@SFE3610 fascism is a very specific eco/political process in which the state owns the means of production and holds absolute authority over individuals. So to call someone a fascist before the idea was conceived is inaccurate. The modern use of the word is also erroneous for that reason.

[@overlookers]

In _"Dracula's Guest",_ the early cut opening of the novel that would be found and published later, the traveling Jonathan Harker is led astray into an abandoned Bavarian village and then cemetery. Where he encounters an unrelated female vampire or revenant that an overseeing Dracula dispatches in wolf form. There's a possibility this cut female entity was a reference to Ireland's other folkloric vampire, _Dearg Due,_ or more likely the earlier _Carmilla._

[@jamesoneill2933]

The analogy of Britain's diminishing strength or power was the equivalent of the counts detestation of sunlight. Beyond the Pale a particularly anti Irish phrase in it's original context, with the Crowns waning power outside of Dublin, with the exception of what became, Northern Ireland , Britain's Renfield.

[@PeacocksEye]

Fascinating- was the choice for Transylvania just a want to put it off in a distant land and then the real life figure lines up enough with the Irish one he was basing it on that it became relatively interchangeable?

[@johnnzboy]

Super interesting - at first I thought that you were taking a break from examining Irish myths and looking a little further afield but you brought it back to your overarching topic - I should've trusted you :)

[@angelogforte6971]

Loving the content can I make a couple of suggestions in bram stokers time there was no border in Ireland and its Derry.

[@rociomiranda5684]

Read Chapter 18 . "This must have been that Voivode Dracula that made war against the Turk". And Dracula's talks with Jonathan. Let’s put it this way: Vlad III is not Stoker's Vanpire, but Stoker's Vampire is Vlad III.

[@Jim-Mc]

Yeah it's clearly meant to be him. The only part contrary to it is how Van Helsing talks so much about his vast education and his being a skilled sorcerer. Since of course I've never heard Vlad III ever did any occult practices.

[@jamesoneill2933]

Droch fhuile or , bad blood in English is fitting for a language which had survived all attempts to be killed off , should breathe immortality into the eponymous Count for all time Oh the irony. Despised and denied not only by a covetous British literary society , but the entire English establishment.

[@danielgavigan7606]

Stoker wrote Dracula as a critism of the treatment of Ireland by the English as the country was continually improvished by absent landlords who exploited the population by very heavy taxes and rents and did not invest in anything in the land. In addition Irish shipping and external trade was controlled by English to favour English trade. England was the bloodsucker battening on the population of Ireland and the story of Dacula was a vehicle to comment on the situation unbekownst to the English. Had the English Establishment realised the inport of the story Stoker would probaply been lodged in the Tower or transported to Van Deimans Land .

[@doppelganger3992]

Always heard Stoker took the Dracula name from Vlad but nothing else.

[@TheVorran]

"Let's see Paul Allen's manuscript."

[@darraghmcconn]

This is fantastically interesting. Never knew any of this

[@pensador6953]

never knew any of that, delighted in learning it subscribed.

[@megalictis9002]

Fascinating! I've never heard any of this anywhere else before! And I had no idea Bram Stoker was born in the same place Brian Boru died! (Coincidence?... yes, its a coincidence).

[@chris3738]

Convincing, but how about the fact that the novel is actually set in a Transylvanian castle? Do you believe that to be a coincidence? I think it’s quite likely that Stoker conflated two unrelated myths and derived a new figure from them.

[@trasamsung3761]

Great video!

[@ironrex6979]

This sounds like a massive stretch

[@billypathy]

Interesting as hell...

[@johnmanno2052]

But it was during that famous party with Lord Byron, the Shelleys and Dr Polidori where we got both Frankenstein and his creation and the vampyr. Surely Stoker read that, no? Except he made the vampire straight, instead of the original gay (or at least not especially straight) version

[@kevinyoka4258]

That’s why it’s better to hear from the author himself rather than making assumptions.

[@android65mar]

Love it- Dracula as anti-imperialist commentary

[@narknit6609]

Very enlightening and enjoyable to learn more context about the creation of one of the most notorious monster creatures. I definitely can see the cross over for Dracula depicting the life sucking effects of fascist leadership. Makes for an even more compelling story.

[@intellectually_lazy]

well, maybe not, but they called vlad tepes that, and transylvania and wallachia are geographically adjacent with some overlap on account of borders shifting over time, so sorry, dracula was at least somewhat based on vlad the impaler. i'll see myself out. you can keep the click

[@Irelandforever609]

Dracula was from Kerry Ireland There a glen is named after him back there I'm a cork man who grew up listening of stories long ago

[@whoisyouranime]

So Dracula in the book and Vlad Tepes aren't the same person. Well, that's cool, if not a little disappointing.

[@JesusRocksTryPrayin]

ANNOYED SO ANNOYED! LIKE *sees movie titled byzantium* EXCITED! THERE IS NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH MEDIA BOUT THE BYZANTINE EMPIRE!!! SO COOL *it's a vampire movie.* :( :( :( no dice!

[@sosopath]

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[@seantice]

biased research.

[@BrianLamar-es3my]

Dude you don't do your research much as I don't like vampires and I opted for werewolves instead because vampires been getting too much Fame media and they be putting the werewolves on the back burner when the werewolves even ain't got a chance to celebrate their moment in the sun which they need to now and I hope to do so from the way I heard it but I'm still good did his research and don't be doing that to a guy who's been dead for a century

[@MistralMijatovich]

No Dracula wasn't based on vlad Dracula.... right

[@hardluck8732]

I think the video made a good case.

[@MistralMijatovich]

@@hardluck8732 I think all the video did was show that there was more than one influence.

[@jamesoneill2933]

Also the Irish ,Droch fhuile becoming , Bad blood ,in English, the term itself, bad blood, in Ireland anyway , was used in reference to land disputes, grazing livestock in particular. Also the term , beyond the pale , itself an originally anti Irish slur , was the analogy which gave rise to the diminishing power of the vampire and aversion , to sunlight, the further from Dublin, the less power the , crown exercised , with the exception of course , of the North of Ireland, Britain's Renfield.