DID THE EMPEROR PLAN FOR CADIA TO FALL?

[@beardedsquire]

The Emperor allowing loyal worlds to fall in order to aid his ultimate plan Krieg: We volunteer as tribute, WE VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!!!

[@JordanAndTrazyn]

When Malcador and the Emperor were playtesting the Heresy and Malcador made an unexpected change to the sequence of events, the Emperor saw that sacrificing Sanguinius offered a chance. The Emperor is ruthless in his focus. Look at his zero tolerance policies during the Great Crusade. And while I’m a fan of the loving father figure, if he was willing to roll the dice with the lives of his sons, he would absolutely be willing to sacrifice countless worlds to give humanity a chance.

[@Judge_of_Anubis05]

See the thing is I think the Emperor originally intended to condition his sons to make the species as a whole the priority even over their own lives. It just that the primarchs both loyal and traitor saw themselves as more important in a wrong sort of way.

[@isaquemaldrylnesouzar-laen5642]

If i am the Emperor i would do the same like him. Just put yourself in his place. But i would prepare me more to these xritical moments.

[@johnmagee2245]

Sacrificing everything is better than chaos winning. Its the only way

[@isaquemaldrylnesouzar-laen5642]

@@johnmagee2245 yep. Moral of story:If you want to achieve anything,you must sacrefice everything.

[@00yiggdrasill00]

I'm in the group that also thinks he loved his sons...but he loves humanity more

[@DanielWW2]

*_Yes Inquisitor. This Space Wolf has been making some very heretical claims about our beloved God Emperor of Mankind._*

[@gabriel0santiago]

Yes inquisitor i trust this man, he is a historian

[@dadaleous9693]

Wait are you saying that not everything is going according to the emperors will. 😡😡I need a flamer does anyone have a flamer I can borrow or do I have to do this with a lighter.

[@rasmuslaurila7611]

Whoaaaaa, part 2 coming?

[@jediastartes6595]

Yeah, how did it go last time the Inquisition went up against the Wolves?

[@rasmuslaurila7611]

@@jediastartes6595 laughed out loud on a bus

[@askashik]

If the Emperor is actually making appearances in the Warp it makes sense to let it spread because now his ability to appear in more places and influence things have dramatically improved....along with Chaos'. The Emperor literally possessed Guilliman, and burned the gardens of Nurgle. He could have done this at any point in time himself to send the Chaos Gods a message, but he never did. BUT, with the expansion of the Eye of Terror into the Cicatrix Maledictum, The Emperor suddenly does the first known DIRECT attack upon a Chaos God. To be honest, I don't think he planned for this to happen, but when it did he saw great opportunities ; and is taking advantage of it.

[@00yiggdrasill00]

He has struggled against every step forward chaos has taken so I see little reason he would just give them so much...but given his nature I see it as perfectly reasonable for him to have plans for both eventualities.

[@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998]

Yeah, that kicking the hornest nest in nurgle’s garden will make the Chaos Gods frantic (except Tzeentch who probably threw a party). He’s engineering the Primarch’s returns to prepare some sort of end times where he ascends as a final act. A Kind of siege of Terra 2

[@Aristaios]

@@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998 siege of terra 3 ;)

[@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998]

@@Aristaios feeling like i missed act 2 now ^^

[@bloodangel19]

@@Aristaios more like 4 or 5. There was the war of the Beast when terra was atacked, there was the end of the reign of blood when another civil war of sorts took place and the atack of Khorne in m42

[@narrakminis]

Ive been under the impression that he did plan for it/know about the fall of Cadia. A huge part of his original goal was to push humanity to become a psychic race, which is now starting to happen since the opening of the great rift (the psychic awakening). Psyker's have proven the best offence towards chaos (which is why Horus and Lorgar pushed for Nikaea before the Heresy). What if this was the only way to speed up the process of humanity becoming a psychic race, which in turn allows them to take the fight to chaos directly. Just a thought

[@user-cj5nk8jk4w]

Don't know if it was intentional but to your point it opens the galaxy to him to assist. It would also allow other primarchs found in the warp to make appearances anywhere in the galaxy. Kaldor Draigo who is trapped in the warp has been noted as appearing on multiple battlefields across the galaxy.

[@dac314]

He has supplied the Hams.

[@vontheunknown7982]

The emperor has a lot of plans it's hard to tell if he wanted this or not.

[@isaquemaldrylnesouzar-laen5642]

Ifbhe wanted... them,what he would achieve or lost with that???

[@Darktitanium159]

i dont know about the emperor, but this had all been part of Aizen's plan

[@christopherhouse1028]

I've always had the idea that since chaos is just psychic energy the best way to combat it would be to spread it out and let it dissapate. Concentrating it and bottling it up is just asking for a psychic explosion.

[@spuddlingbob8724]

It's easy... Just stop being sexual deviants and you starve Slaneesh! Stop killing and you starve Khorne! Get a proper healthcare system and you starve Nurgle! And stop sorcery and intrigue and you starve Tzeentch! 😂

[@rinlaster2942]

it's possible, but is the universe even big enough for chaos to dissipate? that factor, im not sure of.

[@christopherhouse1028]

@@rinlaster2942 true but not everything can be fought head on, some battles are just a test of diligence and steadfastness. If the imperium is worthy it will survive, if not the Tau will claim an empty galaxy.

[@danendraarkananta9442]

@@spuddlingbob8724 its hard to stop anything tzeentch his blessing is alredy part of our life

[@Matihood1]

@@spuddlingbob8724 God I wish that was so simple. But in reality, it's WORSHIP that fuels the gods the most. Not the deeds you mentioned. Worship, direct or indirect, is what gives them the most of their power. That's why big E wanted to annihilate all religions.

[@GRBoi1993]

I’m so glad there’s a content creator that shares nearly my exact views on the emperor, not being entirely black pulled lol

[@michasalamon8315]

He planned for this the same way he have planned for Horus Heresy. He knew more less what will happen, but he did not know all the details, and as it turned our later, the details were pretty fucking important. Ps. What do you think was harder siege to win for the forces of chaos looking at what we know now? Siege of Terra, or Siege of Cadia? I know we still have 2 Soege of Terra books to see, and practically no Fall of Cadia novels, but what do you think was harder to break, Terra or Cadia?

[@alek7998]

Ironically enough, the siege of Cadia. Terra only had a few legions and what little custodians were left after magnus did somthing wrong. Imperial forces were stupidly disadvantaged and yet they held. The throneworld stands

[@lloydgush]

His plans amount to "do what you know you gonna do, don't try to prevent what you don't like." He didn't allow cadia to fall, he just believed nothing he could do would ever prevent it.

[@akantor0811]

In all fairness throneworld only stood because they wanted to kill the emperor properly to stop him resurrecting they could have blown it up from distance also if the emperor had been able to leave his throne non of the traitor primarchs could have stood against him

[@michasalamon8315]

@@akantor0811 eh, maybe. I mean, he was pretty beaten up by that point, both he and Malcador used up a loot of their psychic powers they gathered during their 30 000+ years of life, and Horus managed to fuck him up good at the end of the siege, so maybe if they all ganged up on him, all seven of them, (Horus, Magnus, Morty, Perty, Angron and Fulgrim) then maybe they could have killed him. Conrad also could do some damage, if he was on Terra to begin with. I would seriously prefer Conrad vs Sanguinius rather than the Red Angel vs Blood Angel, or at least Corax vs Conrad rematch. Eh. Maybe in the M42, when all the primarchs will return again.

[@sbeaber]

@@alek7998 Cadia had 0 legions. Separate chapters of varying strength fighting for a decaying byzantine run empire with a level of technology frozen for 10,000 bound by a superstitious dogma.

[@Antispectre]

Great video, as always. Although I still think, that returns of Guilliman is by a far much greater event than destruction of the world (even of such magnitude to the 40k as cadia) and new chaos driven event (Cicatrix Maledictum). From lore perspective it is the great heroes such as the Primarchs and the journey that compels fans the most. IMHO

[@avonacolyte]

There are many occasions where the Emperor is said to have spoken since his ascension, and even to have given audiences in the Throneroom! For example during Vandire's heresy, when he intervened to give sanction to the Adepta Sororitas and overthrow the heretic Cardinal; also the kill order for Konrad Curze was always said to have been given in the Heresy War's aftermath. Of course, it's possible the Custodes did that in his name. He gave audience to Jaq Draco in the first Draco novel - the canonicity of that is disputed, but everything controversial in it has been reintegrated into the lore anyway.

[@sarge1553]

Unless he needed a way to signal the primarchs because he couldn’t reach them so he let Cadia fall for that purpose

[@drakewoodlock9127]

I believe the Emperor does care for his people, and the lose of just one is a pain on his soul. However I believe he is also cold and must do what others can't so humanity can breath another day. But I could be wrong.

[@OvaltinePatrol]

When Big E made his pact with the Gods, did they specify a time frame for his compliance? It'd be pretty funny if he didn't actually renege, and he's just now setting things up to fulfill the deal.

[@monsterno.definablenever.3484]

The ultimate grimdark ending, I suppose.

[@bruceyoung4777]

I mean don't forget the the emperor sent a spoken message as a memory to Belisarius cawl through the mind of sedayne who he knew would soul merge with the latter in the future. Who would then recall the memory 10,000 years later.

[@ahmadillo4959]

11:58 “The Imperium has not been on the offensive since the Great Crusade.” Lord Commander Solar Macharius would like to have a word.

[@seekkyle4230]

Wonder if the Emperor has ever though 'if we just teamed up with the Eldar all the galaxies problems would be solved'?

[@justinokraski3796]

They attempted diplomacy with Ulthwe once. Problem is they sent Horus as the ambassador. The Eldar tried to kill him and prevent the HH. They needed to get Lorgar

[@pentacosttb2565]

Guilliman was right in that the Emperor hadn't spoken to HIM since being interned on the Golden Throne, but he was definitely talking to his sons and the servants he actually liked.

[@1claw10company]

unlike that nerd, amirite lol

[@isaquemaldrylnesouzar-laen5642]

I simply love that art of the Emperor on the video,that photo is awesome. And about if the Emperor plan or not,i dont know,but he isbthe biggest like a boss of 40k 😎

[@TheDandyMann]

My thoughts always drift to Atlas when I think of the emperor.

[@Vohtwomax]

Hi Rho! Im still new to the lore and don't play tabletop, but I think it would actually be fitting for GW to bring back all the available Primarchs, both traitor and loyalist. I think it would be good for the game AND narrative to have "leaders" back at the heads of their armies. There are some cool rules shake-ups that GW could explore to get us in to the next 10,000 years of warfare.

[@irrelevant5820]

I don't think bringing back Horus is possible as the emperor completely destroyed his soul. As for the others I believe their return is inevatble. Even the dead ones like Sangunius and Ferrus Manus. In devestation of Baal Sangunius speaks with Dante in a vision. It may have to do with him being worshipped to some degrees in the imperium and faith or emotions are what feeds/influences the beings of the warp. The emperor also summoned the soul of ferrus manus at the war within the webway along many others.

[@robertross9019]

It’s entirely possible he knew of the aeldari prophecy and wants them to end Slaanesh, thereby making ultimate victory over Chaos possible

[@kamaeq]

Heh, remember Cadia was made vulnerable by the last big world wide lore event, which is why GW isn't going to do that again for any major lore points. Or you could say that Cadia was made vulnerable by Eisenhorn taking out Quixos, who had apparently discovered how to replicate the black tower things the Necrons had built on Cadia as a defense against Chaos and/or the Warp.

[@iamcaesar6741]

The Emperor can cause a path through the Warp for Guilliman like a “Web Way Portal” without using the Web Way galactic Infrastructure

[@monsterno.definablenever.3484]

He can manipulate the warp, yes.

[@iamcaesar6741]

I cannot remember if before the Siege of Terra the Emperor could cause a calming of the Warp or manipulate the Warp to benefit him or his sons during the crusade? But in the novels where Guilliman is traveling with his fleet the Warp Terrors part away. Compared to where Mephistophiston the Blood Angel is he has to fight the Warp Demons around the Blood Angel fleet using an astral form as the fleet travels from point A to point B

[@joaolucasnascimentoleite2831]

TTS emperor be like: everything is going just as PLANED

[@primarisgainssbbg3038]

I find it hard to think he would let Cadia fall intentionally. It took 13th Black Crusades to get it done.

[@1337_YbuR]

At Molech they gave hime the 20 best deamon soul shards they had in the warp and he proposed to boost them up even further so they agreed but he had to return them. Otherwise they would inevitably turn against him. So based on the fact he would know from the start they would turn on him no matter what because he was not giving them back anyway he carefully chose the best of them and gave them better treatment, and the worst one a bad treatment thus pushing the worse one to turn on him but lose in the end because the better one were on his side. The one thing he didn’t know is that he would lose magnus before putting him on the golden throne. Any thoughts on that ?

[@flabldorfv3592]

I also recall hearing Fulgrim's fall to chaos was unexpected too, considering it was his own pride that caused his down fall. Any thoughts on this?

[@1337_YbuR]

@@flabldorfv3592 I think he expected a 70/30 in term of who would remain loyalist and who wouldn’t. And like he described the way his visions work he sees the end result not the build up to it. So i think he could not have anticipated how much efforts the chaos gods would put in motion so quick after he left the crusade and the crazy level of foolishness/naïveness his primarch would have. Plus the word bearer absolutely turbo spreading the corruption.Thats especially why he was caught off guard because it was so quick to happen he had more trust in the best he had. (And all of that is personal opinions ofc)

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

It's not like the Imperium simply let Cadia fall. The highlords were terrified of that possibility decades before it happened and mustered enormous resources to stop that. The Imperium had 10's of the best Spacesmarine chapters, Titan legions, Knight houses, hundreds of regiments and myriad of other forces in the Cadia gate. Phalanx and Celestine arrived and the Legion of the Dammed. The Imperium fought with everything it could muster, but Abaddon had more and fought better. Simple as that.

[@jinbrond3689]

I hadn't thought of it until now but it makes a certain amount of strategic sense. It's like sacrificing a rook (Cadia) to save a knight (Gulliman) and getting a pawn across the board to become a queen (The Big E).

[@markrtoffeeman]

The Emperor continues his 4 dimensional chess match with Malcador the Sigillite. Cadia falls. The Emperor plays The Emperor's gambit... Checkmate.

[@Mordu83]

The emperor is a rouge chaos god who broke his pact with the others gods, Chaos gods demand sacrifices Emperor requires sacrifices for more power any mortal near him a soul food for him

[@Jackb8296]

Yes, see I think maybe part of the reason Guilliman was so annoyed after talking to the big E is because he told him that he knew all of this was going to happen.. thousands of years of sacrifice for an end goal, maybe???????

[@LaughTalePainting]

It was the God Emperor who made Abaddon break the pylons, just let that sit for a bit

[@drunkenfox2519]

I can see it even the emperor of old would have at least considered every option, and after 10,000 years on the throne surrounded by nothing, but darkness, and mostly stripped of his humanity you have to imagine how hard it would be to let the chance slip.

[@maciekwilkosz6377]

If the Emperor knew so long in advance he would snap Abaddon like a twig back in the days just to be safe :P .

[@Ravi9A]

"And That is Anathema" I See what you did there :D

[@Izrek]

I like to think Emperors has plans within plans. He mayby didnt plan originally Cadia to fall but IF it fell he had plan for it to work for him and (hopefully) humanity.

[@IRAFOX888]

Is it possible that the emperor needed Cadia to fall so that the warp would have a physical and psonic presence in the material realm? Perhaps he needed those ten thousand years for Chaos to be emboldened enough to set the stage for their own downfall by empowering him via the ambient warp energy that was created in the expansion of the eye of terror. After all, Psionics is the manipulation of the warp, and he's the most powerful psychic ever

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

Don’t forget that something occurred in the presence of The Golden Throne during the Age of Apostasy when the Daughters of the Emperor. I don’t see how simply seeing him interred would get them to turn on Vandire, so it’s more likely that he spoke to them. I agree that the great rift makes it easier for the Emperor to act now, but I highly doubt that he setup the dominoes to allow Cadia to fall. His ability to act was significantly impaired prior to the great rift opening - the living saints & Legion of the Damned (who deserve to be brought back from Legends btw) were his only real agents abroad & they weren’t appearing frequently. I don’t know if the dark gods would let him whisper in Abbadon’s ear. Also, I really don’t think he can influence the Necrons (cut off from the warp as they are) & they played a bit part in the fall of Cadia. Ultimately I feel like it’s more a matter of how than if. The Emperor, beloved by all, has shown he will make the hard call, but I don’t see how he made it work.

[@frankacciarito6099]

Love your videos Rho keep em coming, with that said how about a video postulating Bjorn the fell handed and Russ’s conversation when he returns?!

[@squoblat]

Perhaps the pylons were in the way of his ascension

[@Paul-cu9lu]

Possibly planned, certainly prepared for. Consider the following. Why, on a fortress world as important as Cadia, were obviously xenos structures not bombed to dust millennia ago? For some reason, the Imperium just decided to leave them alone for so long and nobody thought that was strange. The Mechanicus, to my knowledge, didn't even try to take them apart, despite them being not human made. Now, the relationship between the Necrons and the Mechanicus aside, this just doesn't happen in the Imperium without a damn good reason.

[@arrontolan2084]

Did he plan for it? If he could foresee it, and is definitely in a position to affect events - yes, you would expect so. Did you want it? I doubt it. The sheer loss of life, loss of strategic superiority vis-a-vis the eye of terror, and the resultant spewing of Chaos forces (multiplying the former problems) and reducing Humanity's capabilities to survive would suggest that it was a wholly negative event.

[@tomb7704]

It's like Doctor Strange seeing the future, they've got one shot, one successful timeline. It might not make any sense and all the losses, all "Bad decisions" on the way all play a part in getting them there.

[@khartog01]

He's following the Golden Path. He is the Kwisatz Haderach! The Sleeper has awakened!

[@keingdougie24]

It’s highly likely the the opening of the great rift is the very event the Emperor was rushing to prepare humanity for. He just didn’t know it would be his very actions that would lead to it’s happening.

[@V.B.Squire]

8:50 I think calling the Thunder Warriors Loyal might be stretching it

[@lincolnosiris3665]

Now this, ladies and gentlemen, is paranoia.

[@thentts]

After learning the ending of Godblight, it's as if the Emperor planned for the Heresy to happen... And Horus' visions were correct

[@Fourtytwo4242]

I always felt emperor saw everything, he could see the future, every step his took changed it, but future is never set in stone. So the emperor is always rolling dice to see what will happen, this is why Alpharius betraying him made him so confused, while Khan staying loyal was an unlikely outcome that came to be.

[@BM-wf9uf]

@@Fourtytwo4242 His problem was that he saw multiple futures but never fully knew which one would transpire. He knew the Heresy would happen, but he didn't know exactly when or which of the Primarchs would betray him.

[@TheFaulkned]

Borderline Heresy there Rho. Your record updated. Never question your Emperor

[@lobogonzalo4745]

Someone forsee this was going to happend and made a machine to send belisarius cawl to the epicenter of the rip

[@tomb7704]

The rift could also be a line in the sand for the impending Tyranid invasion. The Emperor is playing a Galactic scale war game.

[@beskararmor7966]

The big E. The ultimate plot armor.

[@browniechann88blackie55]

Yes rho always makes my day better you rock

[@Solus1994]

Hoping you'll do a video on the conversation between Talos and Abaddon

[@sebastianrubio928]

I'm with you on this hypothesis

[@willclark7197]

Honestly it makes the most sense sometimes you have to sacrifice a few to save the rest

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

By allowing Cadia to fall what Emps has done is forced people to pray for help - this will only increase his strength in the Warp

[@briHammer40K]

I also have massive amounts of love for Big E but even I can admit that sometimes he can be a bit of a flippin blummin bloody bugger.....sometimes

[@arnianvaelez1417]

I think about Cadia as a martyr,the Emperor foresaw Cadia's fall and he did nothing or almost nothing to unite the Imperium and bring new hope for the human armies

[@nathanialblock8480]

The state of the galaxy in the current setting is doing one thing, getting the power of the chaos gods out of their homes giving the emperor an opportunity to kill one of the gods.

[@NoName-lo9ym]

Here's an idea for a video "How powerful was the Emperor before Molech" - he got saved by Horus from being choked out by an Ork and Ollanius Pius has some interesting recollections from ancient days

[@sbeaber]

Mixing up timelines there, bud. His first visit to Molech "arriving in a spaceship and not leaving in one" was waaaay before Ulanor.

[@danf3201]

Well, Molech was before the Primarchs were made, so him nearly losing on Ullanor was more due to the power of the Krork he was fiighting (the description given is very close to the Beast) and the strain of all the things he was trying to at once, like directing and partly powering the Astronomican and directing his troops; and in the end Horus thought the Emperor did not truly need his help. As for Ollanius' memories, the Emperor defeated the Void Dragon in ancient history, which is a pretty damn impressive feat.

[@BM-wf9uf]

I mean he fought and beat a void dragon before even the Unification Wars I believe. I mean sure the dragon was weakened from the war in heaven but still, a weakened void dragon would still be far beyond what I would consider any other living being.

[@Micaenes]

So the Emperor could probably communicate better with a text to speech device on his throne. Just a thought.

[@squeekfootbiter3803]

I think the fall of Cadia allowed the imperium get away from stagnation and have movement against Chaos instead turtling behind a decaying carcass. Side note: let say slaying the emperor allowed him to be reborn like other perpetuals, and Guillimam learned of it. Would he slay his father and risk the golden thrones reaction?

[@bobdrooples]

Ork ambassadors on terra too this.

[@generalnawaki]

*looks at picture of Slaanesh* well it's not my proudest but wait, I wonder if this is then prayer.

[@adfury]

All of it? No. Is he capitalizing on what he is seeing? Yes. He's not quite pulling off a Xanatov gambit. It's more desperate than that. Maybe we will understand more once the Siege novels are complete.

[@alemtalic5535]

A fact of possibility... Wow.

[@TDBoedy]

I don't think he did, but he probably managed to take advantage of the new state of the Warp to begin affecting things again.

[@shuggiehamster]

I think you have to consider the gw literally have no clue where the arc is going. Too much is contradictory, confused and aimless. Its not like they have much clue where they are taking the business.

[@thenonplayerprince]

You said he has only spoken to Russ and Guillimen. However Didn't the Custodes grab Alicia Dominica so that The Emperor could personally speak to her?

[@jasonferron1188]

To be fair, as far as Monarchia is concerned. The ultra-smurfs made sure all the civilians were able to escape the cities destruction.

[@Riotmedic009]

As much as we watch and wonder about papa smurf starting to wonder about The Emperor's godhood, if the Emperor has accepted it, and Cadia falling would enhance him, then he'd 100% let Cadia die.

[@manemperorofmankind8119]

Everything, is going according to plan

[@gergelyoskolas182]

I thought that the Emperor does not STAND for anyting.

[@MrLowend77]

Ultimate twist for final 40K reveal....Tzeentch is the Emperor, the Emperor is Tzeentch.... he kicked his own ass during the heresy because...why not. He's his own greatest enemy to keep those schizophrenic tides of change moving.

[@JZ0UK]

The imperium hasn't expanded since the great crusade? Macharius would like a word.

[@matthewspencer2094]

Cadia was a defensive planet along a border. It's purpose wasn't ever to remain safe and whole. Border defenses aren't designed to be tactically invincible. They deter and defeat smaller attacks. They are there to delay and deplete any attack such that even in tactical defeat they provide strategic victory. A Maginot line approach is a sure path to strategic defeat... which bodes poorly for current plans.

[@CaptainEshara]

what if i told you that one of the lost primarchs "the damned" was sacrificed at Molech, that the Emperor had to give one to the warp and that's why the primarchs memories where blanked, it wasn't so simple as the Emperor just using the gate, and why Horus ultimately turned when he went through the chaos gate, if it were true it would demonstrate what lengths the Emperor will go to

[@matthewspencer2094]

It would also explain why he let Horus slap him round for so long, and why he eventually destroyed him entirely. He was making sure the son he destroyed was the one who he'd doomed to be irredeemable. It would be a pro Tzeentch move to try and confront him with the wrong son at the end and have big E rip the wrong soul from existence.

[@aeroflip97]

He was planning for Cadia to fall since warcraft 3

[@Stylenwavin]

Maybe the Black Crusade was destined to win on the 13th Crusade.

[@ZacharyPackard0976]

The Emperor knows all ? The Emperor protects ? Then why did Cadia fall : turning point Chaos

[@charleshalcomb5638]

Personally, my opinion is that the Emperor didn't, until after the Fall, have the presence of mind to plan anything. Hoped for? Maybe

[@ryansauchuk7290]

Big E: Just as planned

[@edwardoavila7666]

It’s part of his endgame I would think.

[@deandamico9055]

Hail lord Rho

[@aaronperry5948]

Lol I've always thought the emperor of the warhammer universe was a parallel universe to god emperor Leto just without spice for clarity....

[@keingdougie24]

The emperor is the chaos god of sacrifice

[@jepr2]

idk if the emperor planned for Cadia to fall, but he like chaos, certainly was going to take advantage of it

[@henryviiifake8244]

And what did he gain by allegedly _deliverately_ gimping the entire Imperium?

[@jepr2]

massive increase in psychic energy throughout the galaxy, also leading to the events of the return of one, potentially more , of his loyal sons

[@BloodyArchangelus]

@@henryviiifake8244 chaos should feel what a tyranid invasion is . Imperium was too big for holding ground. Now chaos would fight against everybody and not just Imperium against everything.

[@TheLastRaven]

The Blood Ravens claim this video and will store it with the primarch in stasis in thier vaults

[@ronoc5811]

But why would he send firey legion boys and the phalanx if he wanted it destroyed ?

[@l7537]

In that case, The Emperor planned for me to shit after eating Taco Bell. Can we just accept that emps doesn’t plan for everything? Even Tzeentch cannot plan for every damned thing to happen. Just like he didn’t plan for Horus to betray him, or Magnus to destroy the webway project, or for the 1st legion to split after the heresy, or for Badab to happen, or for Vraks to be invaded, or for the Tau and Necrons to rise up. What makes The Emperor so powerful isn’t that he forsees all, but he can instantly adapt to all. Guilliman got his strategic adaptability from someone after all

[@emperor002002]

No he didn't

[@dreweybaker9259]

Hey question. If no one is allowed to speak of the two lost legions. Why can’t the traitor primarchs tell of them for spite. They couldn’t give a rip what big E thinks. Plus when and how did big E learn of the chaos Gods

[@BM-wf9uf]

Don't remember when it was but the Primarch's had their memory of the two lost legions wiped. In one of the books there is a conversation between Malcador and Rogal Dorn about it and that's when Malcador confesses to Dorn that they were wiped from their memory, this happened long before the Heresy so explains why the traitors don't speak of them. Not sure when the Emperor learned of the Chaos God's. Given his birth and nature its possible he has always known in some capacity, but I believe when he entered the portal on Molech was when he discovered the true strength of the Chaos powers. Also, prior to the Unification Wars Big E fought and beat a void dragon and imprisoned it on mars. This shows he has knowledge of higher powers prior to The Great Crusade.

[@MetalRhino42]

Sometimes i wonder if the game emps and malcador played wasnt the current heresy but the long haul game.

[@tankster99]

did he plan on kadia falling no but I think he allowed it in the end.

[@Dadecorban]

You either live long enough to become a martyr or a heretic. This is clearly heresy.

[@MetalMosher446]

Abaddon could be clappin the emperor's cheeks on the golden throne and loyalists would say it's a part of his great plan