Did the Middle Ages Happen? - Debunking the Phantom Time Hypothesis

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Kings and Generals' animated historical documentary series on medieval history and historiography we will talk about the so-called Phantom Time Hypothesis which posits that the Middle Ages didn't happen and will do our best in order to debunk it.
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[@KingsandGenerals]

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[@MiguelLopez-yc2rh]

It would be interesting a video where you analize the Spanish Black Legend.

[@robotkade9107]

Cool

[@kurtmueller2089]

I remember that back in 2002, in a school in Germany, one of my History teachers thoroughly debunked this Idea already. It really is just a fringe among fringe theories.

[@TheRezro]

It is rather conspiracy theory then even hypothesis. It literally make no sense!

[@kingleech16]

@@TheRezro It does once you account for the interference of the lizard men and crab people!

[@TheRezro]

@@kingleech16 Neh. We have better things to do that that. Earth is not flat. You can see that with naked eye. Earth is just a space ship... I mean hollow.

[@gaiusjuliuscaesar9907]

It's not 300 years is the issue here. It's 10-30.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

@@TheRezro he was joking..

[@santi2683]

I like how people could believe kings and emperors who all hated each other could actually pull up this ridiculous conspiracy and get the whole world to back it up just because

[@12gmkk29]

Communism and capitalism hate each other but they were allies in ww2

[@santi2683]

@@12gmkk29 not the same thing tho

[@GarkKahn]

@@12gmkk29 they had a common enemy And still we know even before their co-op war ended they fought each other

[@kylewilliams8114]

@@12gmkk29 two factions fighting a war against common enemies and dozens of nations creating a shared, false history of hundreds of years is not at all comparable.

[@TheRezro]

@@12gmkk29 The really weren't. Soviets were also allied with Nazis at one point.

[@Artur_M.]

Oh, I thought it is going to be about the Middle Ages as a concept. This dumb silliness is literary giving me a headache. I admire you for having the patience to debunk it.

[@Morfeusm]

Yeah Middle Ages as an concept is a bit stinky in itself too but that’s for another discussion

[@michaelmoorrees3585]

Yeah, I was first expecting something on "dark ages" = stagnation and regression of civilization. Not just 300 years just temporally slotted in. Conspiracist need better brand of tin foil !

[@Ronnet]

@@Morfeusm at least that's a intellectual discussion. This is just nonsense. Shameful that it even needs to be debunked. But good on this channel for doing the work.

[@reinercelsus8299]

@@Ronnet The channel has sadly failed to tell you that the hypothesis was already discussed and debunked in Germany in the 1990s. There was nothing left to debunk.

[@unknowndane4754]

@Bu$$yBuster on that note I watch a lot of flat earth and young earth debunking specifically because It's dense in information about scientific fields

[@gamera5160]

Some ruler in backwater Europe: Everyone! I'm making up 300 years of history! Follow my lead! China: Well, if some barbarian king I've never heard of is doing it, we're doing it too.

[@williamrobert9898]

Lol

[@capac2]

Literally bro lol. Some people can be so dumb and ridiculous

[@patrickar8797]

“Yes guys, everyone is in on it, the Arabs, native Americans, Indians, Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese and countless other groups seperated by vast geographical obsticles had all of their histories faked!” The ignorance, narrow mindedness and cognitive bias of some people is astounding.

[@firstconsul7286]

The caliphates: The Christian heathens want to erase our entire existence and glory days? Fine, we'll go along with it.

[@mortache]

@@firstconsul7286 literally the best time of Arab empires lol. I guess all those books and architectures were also made up by some peasants in some German village mud hut 🤣🤣🤣

[@orenashkenazi9813]

On the one hand, it's disturbing that such a conspiracy theory exists. On the other hand, clowning on it is fun. Would love to see you guys' take on The New Chronology, a conspiracy theory that is even wilder than Phantom Time

[@elbentos7803]

Sadly, this "New Chronology" or "recentism" foolishness is even more worrying as it is born out of unbridled russian nationalism (created by a mathematician by the name of Anatoly Fomenko) : Everything significant in mankind History was invented or created by old russians and, by the way, Jesus was russian as well... According to this pure madness, all accepted History is nothing but a huge conspiracy made up by jesuits during XVIIIth century. This whole New chronoly thing is a messy mix of stupidity, bad faith, blatant lies and highly toxic nationalism.

[@mightypirat9875]

This theory could not disturb me a bit. After all the other conspiracy theories I heard about I know there is nothing too dump to create a conspiracy theory around. Its only really disturbing that there are always people that believe in them and even put a lot of effort in it to prove it.

[@eunit8899]

Disturbing? Lol chill dude.

[@lacintag5482]

Wouldn't it have been much simpler to say Jesus was born 300 years earlier, or to invent some other reason to start the count earlier, instead of making up several centuries from scratch?

[@pridefulobserver3807]

some minority germans probably wanted to sh*t on everything not german, like the greco-latin cultures, this kind of stuff tends to surge in zealous sects, and facists and communists have a history of conspiracy mythi creation and cultivation of esoteric woo.

[@BiggestCorvid]

Imagine being a shut-in recluse for two years and insisting that your debt collectors are lying about what year it is because you don't understand compound interest either.

[@MrOliver1444]

There is no evidence for Jesus. More evidence is actually against what the bible claims.

[@abradolflincler726]

Well, "some people" are stupid.

[@Baddy187]

Carbon dating would show.

[@aidanmonty8162]

16:06 it seems the narrator misspoke here; the Battle of Talas occurred in 751 AD, not 551. The subtitles have this correct.

[@cgt3704]

Thanks KG for making sure History Channel will never exploit this theory

[@muddybootknight6319]

One way to debunk a conspiracy theory is the sheer amount of people needed to work together while remaining silent about it to pull it off such as this one

[@Yordleton]

That's exactly what I always say! The leaking of Manhattan Project data to the Soviets is a good example of how even the most funded and secretive operations in history end up in leaks and everyone finding out about it as a result.

[@photinodecay]

Indeed, it takes a conspiracy to assemble the "evidence" for a conspiracy theory :)

[@nottiredofwinning3736]

Also, make sure to relentlessly call them "tin foilers" and stupid names like that instead of arguing in good faith.

[@jackjones9460]

I love hearing about conspiracies but don’t have any faith that selfish men would trust each other king enough to make something happen secretly.

[@jackjones9460]

I love hearing about conspiracies but don’t have any faith that selfish men would trust each other king enough to make something happen secretly.

[@curiousinquireror4096]

Two Words: Tang Dynasty. That's all that needs to be said to debunk this theory

[@AzureDragon100]

Naturally, conspiracy theorists fail to realize the world outside the west exist.

[@ballsack6547]

yes I agree on this

[@darthvader4338]

Yeah that a massive boom

[@ecurewitz]

The nut jobs will just claim it never existed

[@dorincucos2197]

I believe their focus is more on the Nortern and Southern dynasties period preceding Sui and Tang being a phantom timeline. But it still doesn't add up - Tang were very influential externally.

[@Longshanks1690]

“Did the Middle Ages happen?” When did Vsauce take over Kings & Generals? 😂

[@Wellch]

Money talks.

[@ParleLeVu]

Don't mention that annoying POS Vsauce. That guy is a knuckle magnet and spends 50 years to get to the point.

[@markcoroneos7811]

Plot twist: Michael is on their staff, or is he 🧐

[@manuelapollo7988]

For curiosity, this is the difference for the 2 calendars: Julian calendar: there is a leap year every 4 years, and that's it. Gregorian calendar: also there is a leap year every 4 years, but if the year is divisible by 100, then it's not a leap year, but it is if the year is divisible by 400. For example, 1800 and 1900 were not leap years, but 2000 was. So when the calendar was introduced there were 10 days of difference because 300, 500, 600, 700, 900, 1000, 1100, 1300, 1400, 1500 had been leap years when they were not supposed to be to keep the calendar correct

[@t.wcharles2171]

Which is why when the UK changed there were riots because the calendar was advanced 11 days.

[@alanpennie8013]

@@t.wcharles2171 They'd got another day out of alignment since 1700.

[@dominicguye8058]

@@t.wcharles2171 I'm guessing it was also considered to be 'Popish'

[@t.wcharles2171]

@@dominicguye8058 yes it was and that's what stopped its adoption because England was not fond of things made by the Catholic Church.

[@mikemodugno5879]

Love this video. I've heard a weird theory claiming that the Roman Empire was a fabrication of the Catholic Church. Could you debunk that one next?

[@jasoncropley5334]

I've heard of that one too, I know recently there was a woman on Tiktok claiming that the Roman Republic / Empire didn't exist lol

[@KingsandGenerals]

There is a difference between 1 TikTok video or account and multiple very popular books

[@alejandrosakai1744]

@@KingsandGenerals good luck, I hope you don't feel the Wrath of Donna!

[@KingsandGenerals]

@@alejandrosakai1744 she going to call me a Vatican shill? :-)

[@alejandrosakai1744]

@@KingsandGenerals I'm afraid of that! Don't forget what happened to Metatron!

[@icecoldchilipreppers6496]

You guys are declaring war on the Tartarian Mudflood people! Love it! ❤️

[@JOGA_Wills]

The funniest conspiracy I have ever heard, I always suspected white people came out the muds of Germania lol. MUD PEOPLE 😱

[@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344]

Next up they will debunk the (possible troll) that says the Roman Empire did not exist.

[@valianghel3454]

Good one!!

[@valianghel3454]

@@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 don t give them ideas🤣🤣 Flat earth society🤣🤣

[@ryannathaniel9296]

@@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 Ah yes, the troll that said the Roman Empire was made up by the Inquisition

[@mrbushi1062]

Lol should do a debunked video on people saying Rome never existed. Yes that was a tik tok but for a short min. It hurt me deeply.

[@HeavyMetalGamingHD]

this person was never in europe. there is a insane amount of evidence basically everywhere in southern and western europe.

[@Vaultboy-ke2jj]

She is a total wacko

[@nkl7345]

Tik tok is garbage, it's just full of idiotic rage bait

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

If they want to on the Kings and Generals discord we have already made the perfect debunk

[@markcoroneos7811]

Why is that bait? There are plenty of idiots out there who believe the crap that gets put on that horrible site. It’s important that history is not besmirched further and it is challenged.

[@mathewfinch]

This is my second favorite historical conspiracy theory, just because it's so easily disproven if you think about it for a minute and know anything about history. My favorite conspiracy theory is the one that the Cathedral at St Mark in Venice holds the remains of Alexander the great, because I can almost bring myself to half buy into it if I'm in the right mood.

[@giorgosthoma849]

I remeber watching a documentary about that! well it was about the tomb of Alexander the great but it was one of the theories it was fun they dubnked if I rememeber corectly

[@ozgurceltikci9106]

I do hope the hammer comes down on ‘the Byzantines were Christianized Arabs theory’ next. Last I heard, Heraclius was actually an Arab named Harit, and Persia never collapsed as a Muslim-convert dynasty just took over the throne from the House of Sasan! Anyway, let me go and reform the Roman Empire in CK3! :)

[@jerolvilladolid]

600-900 AD is among the most well documented periods in human history. Because it is the time of the Tang dynasty in China and written records those years existed are in the kilometers of paper scrolls. Doesnt mean that you didnt write any records down than other people didnt too.

[@anneonymous4884]

While we're on the topic of (pre)historical conspiracy theories, I've seen a surprising number of people claiming that the Indo-European theory to be false. They claim that the similarities between Sanskrit, Greek, Latin, Hittite, etc. are a coincidence and that Europeans are just trying to appropriate Indian culture and history.

[@Yiannis2112]

Just like the Black Athena theory of ancient Egyptians, Israelis and Greeks, being subsaharian Africans.

[@chrissmith3587]

@@Yiannis2112 that one’s just tragic, I’ve only heard these theories from black Americans or the occasional black brits. That these black Americans do not know their history is sad

[@Yiannis2112]

@@chrissmith3587 Yes, looks like when something's so advanced, everyone claims a piece from the cake of inheritance

[@deron2203]

thanks for taking the time to debunk such a bizarre conspiracy!

[@namngo6195]

4:51 the absurdity of the Eastern Roman Emperor agreeing on something with the Holy Roman Emperor and the Pope is enough to discredit whatever this "hypothesis" claims

[@philly83]

I had heard something about this theory but was not real familiar with it. Thank you for covering this.

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

[@VxV631]

As far as I understand, the appeal of conspiracy theories is "I know more than the smart people" and elevates one's sense of self. And while we live in a modern era where conspiracy theories are frustratingly being proven right, this is not one of them. As a Historians, this was almost painful (as I'm sure it was to make) to watch lol but you guys did stellar work as always!

[@VxV631]

Historian* autocorrect

[@Rex73777]

@@VxV631 You can edit your post. Click the three dots near the top right of your post.

[@williamrobert9898]

So far all conspiracy theories that I have heard of are completely idiotic and nonsensical

[@101Mant]

@@williamrobert9898 well there are real conspiracies, look at the Tuskegee Study where black men were deliberately not treated for syphalis to see what would happen. Or the illegal activities of the FBIs COINTELPRO. If you live in a country where this stuff has happened I can see why people might be more credulous of the less out there conspiracy theories.

[@schnitzelfilmmaker1130]

@@williamrobert9898 ? Area 51 exists… and a lot more. The only difference between those and beliefs that are considered conspiracy theories now which will later turn out to be true, is that the latter haven’t been admitted to yet, and so you’re working with information you speculate about. That doesn’t mean it’s wrong, the only evidence that it is wrong is whatever you can rationally sort through, and then the belief in the words of authorities who have a history of covering these things up but simply tell you they won’t do it again - which you have no real reason to believe. But conspiracy theories have been true before, why would they suddenly stop being right?

[@georgepatton93]

Just when i think some people cant get dumber, the world proves me wrong yet again

[@tjtruth4793]

Right, there’s still ppl out there wearing masks and trusting what their tv tells them.. whew the past couple years was a reality check in just how dumb ppl really are...

[@ecurewitz]

Never underestimate the stupidity of others

[@williamromine5715]

The best comment of all time. I just wish I had thought of it.

[@kingleech16]

There are already folks positing that the 7 Years War, Napoleonic Wars, and WWI + WWII never happened, and were just lies for governments to exert more control. The reasoning? No country or alliance could operate so many troops/ships across so much territory.

[@ElvenMetalhead]

As a long time Sri Lankan fan of this channel, it made me so happy to see my island shown in this video, giving me a timestamp of sorts of Sri Lankan history, to compare the topic of this video with. Hoping to see a video on Sri Lankan history one day! Keep slaying with the content, K&G!

[@kadaltokek3953]

Perhaps "Dark Age" was for backwater Europe back then. How we even forget Tang Dynasty in China and Chalukya in Indian Subcontinent, Crivijaya in Southeast Asia and Savarid Dynasty in Iran Plateau? Those countries were prospered, hell even Crivijaya was much stronger compare to Byzantine Empire at that time even started colony in Madagascar, Africa. Some European dudes had narcissistic behaviour assuming "Europe's dark age" means "world's dark age"

[@danielcarroll1193]

Some narcissistic European dudes that’s the answer to all life’s problems rite lol

[@kleinweichkleinweich]

I'll watch this interesting video in 300 years when it should be available in my country and just leave a like for now

[@vane909090]

I like that you guys are having fun with these things sometimes.

[@KateeAngel]

I actually thought for a long time that Fomenko invented this hypothesis on his own. My cousin from Rybinsk was and maybe still is a fan of Fomenko. And Rybinsk is near Yaroslavl (note "y" in Rybinsk is pronounced like "y" in Polish, Russian "ы", and "ya" in Yaroslavl is pronounced like in English). In Yaroslavl there is a wealthy businessman who believes in that crap as well and opened a private museum about it, and unfortunately it is more popular than actual historical museums 😑 (historical museums in both cities are rather good). That is how pseudoscience spreads

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

A sad tale of how ignorant the general population truly is, the lack of education is astounding.

[@reinercelsus8299]

The video isn't about the hypothesis of Fomenko. It's about the hypothesis of the german publicist Heribert Illig from the 1990s and was already debunked in Germany since the 1990s.

[@TheRezro]

@@chooseyouhandle Concept of Ancient Aliens is actually quite interesting. It is actually driving force behind Tomb Rider franchise and several popular adventure movies. Problem with the TV series itself is that it is almost satire of this concept. With repeated arguments, obvious jumping in conclusions and even not trying using logic.

[@LarsRyeJeppesen]

This channel is so amazing. Thank you

[@treverblanco]

Great start to a Sunday!

[@user-cd4bx6uq1y]

Thankd. Helped me a lot.

[@anjanpratapsingh727]

Please make a Video on the Kannauj Tripartite Struggle and how the middle Indian Kingdoms stopped the eastward expansion of the Caliphate

[@Monkechnology]

Broke mfs: "middle age never happened/ bronze age collapse wasn't real/[insert more gibberish, cope, and a bit of malding]" Me, a philosopher: "Age of Mythology is the most accurate and truthful representation of the classical era. Yes, atlanteans, creatures such as hydras or giants, and every hero mentioned in the illiad were real."

[@gilgoofthegrove5072]

glad you guys covered this one. i hadnt heard about this one particularly, but the idea is the same with the "tartarian empire" conspiracy

[@drstrangeluv25]

Kings & Generals is my favorite alternative history KZbin channel.

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , K&G . 🐺

[@beckydonoghue3452]

Really appreciated this video, because I've been enjoying a Comic The Dapartment of Truth. And that book uses this conspiracy as the baises of all future conspiracies. Basically its the concept that once you make enough people believe in something it then becomes real. And this was the first bit of fiction that was turned real because Otto the second wanted to reign in the year 1000.

[@franbalcal]

Can you imagine how the History Channel would have approached a subject like this?!

[@user-uc4vg4rg9e]

Aliens disrupted the flow of time using the pyramids

[@user-uc4vg4rg9e]

Or some c rap

[@dominicguye8058]

They'd probably only say that isn't true near the end of the documentary while teasing throughout that it might be true

[@dimitrijejovanovic5939]

We need more videos like this

[@davemosd6192]

Only just seen first 30 sec and I must say respect for having the open mindedness to make this video and daring to contemplate such things

[@kbob1158]

Finally, a rational, informed and systematic assemblage of evidence and reasoning to put this foolishness to bed once and for all.

[@hrolfthestrange]

Obviously you focus entirely on the historical evidence debunking this, but another thing I think is interesting for this and other conspiracies is research regarding the number of people directly involved being inversely proportional(and I think exponential) to the length a conspiracy could remain hidden. Such that to last 5 years a max of 2500 people can be involved(and assuming they are all specifically motivated to keep the secret) but to last 50 years a max of 500 people can be involved. There's no way to say very few people would have been involved in this(mass rewrites occurring in multiple libraries/monasteries/government records across multiple countries) or that these people would be motivated to follow one fixed conspiracy(some countries involved having antagonistic religious/cultural/political interests with each other) and then the conspiracy lasts 1000+ years?

[@commanderkei9537]

That’s why you tie up loose ends, of course. I’m sure Epstein knows this well

[@talldude1412]

not to mention the numbers are much smaller than that as well.

[@noelwym123]

It's already difficult to keep a birthday party a secret between ten people. Imagine trying to keep a huge secret among thousands!

[@StoicHistorian]

really like the bulletin board

[@bogiekhan]

he deserves more subs

[@robbabcock_]

Great work!

[@ggtt2547]

Amazing episode. Very very interesting subject. Would love to see more such episodes, not about specific events or battles, but more theoritical like this one. Excellent. Since we are on the topic of conspiracy theories, you reminded me that as a young teenager and even as a young adult, i was really fascinated by Graham Hancock's theories and books. Not so much these days. I guess that as you grow older your mind is occupied more with everyday struggles and less with the pyramids and ancient aliens! But, i would love to hear your opinion on the man!! Is he a complete 100% hoax??

[@banana2263]

yes.

[@dominicguye8058]

"pyramids and ancient aliens" If he believes that those two subjects are in any way related, then yes he is promoting hoaxes.

[@Anonymous69700]

Hope you go long way in your success journey

[@the_feedle]

You should also make a video debunking the "China discovered America before Christofer Columbus" - theory, by Gavin Menzies

[@nicholsonfile]

Your imperative statement has a lot very wrong with it.

[@SunnyThumb]

The war disclaimer before the ad 👏👏👏

[@thefisherking78]

This has got to be one of the most fascinating piles of malarkey I've ever heard

[@BlackRoseImmortal75]

You can easily debunk this in less than 10 words: Chinese Calendar and Halley's Comet. Everything was recorded. We were not the first and deinitely not the only civilization with a calendar.

[@varalderfreyr8438]

China re-wrote their history after WWII. The texts don't lie, but the order to read them in may be stretched just a bit, so that China has a history before any modern nation.

[@feelingchanvre928]

God I'm glad you guys made this. A friend of mine deeply believes this stuff and I've been trying for years to tell him that it's nothing but a load of crap. I'll be sure to send that one his way!

[@kriscerosaurus]

I'd actually never heard of this one. Wild.

[@TheHistoryofThings]

I've heard of this hypothesis, downright hilarious. Funnier than most sitcoms.

[@theyellowjesters]

this was a thorough and unrelenting take down by the kings and generals. i loved how relentless you guys were, calling them "tinfoilers" and conspiracy theorists at basically every opportunity!

[@JAG8691]

Post-Modernism. Conspiracies do exist and all the successful ones are based on utilizing plausible deniability as a defensive barrier in case the agenda gets discovered or blocked. If the dots connected can fit a Conspiracy dont knee jerk a " Tin foil Hatter" label on it immediately. This one however is completely a fabrication of History which has accelerated in the Post-Modernity World that we have entered into and is why the Flat Earth Theorists have increased around the Globe.

[@bart183]

American: "Did the Middle Ages happen?" European: Looks out the window and sees the huge ruins of the castle. "Yep."

[@eljanrimsa5843]

Castle building really started only in the 10th century. That's one of their starting points for the theory. I don't know which castle you are seeing out of your window but it's very unlikely that it was built between 614 and 911.

[@bart183]

@@eljanrimsa5843 The question was, "Did the Middle Ages really happen?" The 10th century is the Middle Ages, so that's about it.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

@@bart183 Yeah, that's a bit of a confused of the term. Nobody doubts that 911-1453 happened. People built with stone, and there are too many buildings left to explain them away. The conspiracy theory is about the Early Middle Ages or Dark Ages, specifically from 614-911. In Germany we have the Pfalzkapelle in Aachen from this time, but not much else. If Germany would be the whole world, the conspiracy theory would make some sense.

[@USBearForce]

10:40 The tinfoil version of the map of Europe includes “Asterix” out in Brittany, and I appreciate that little nod.

[@veeu8781]

and Britain doesn't exist

[@bartrijken1577]

pls make a video about of childsacrifices actually happened at the Fenician temples

[@Nilboggen]

I was going to comment that you were saying Niceae wrong but after looking it up you are just using the Latin pronunciation as opposed to the Greek pronunciation. I was unaware Latins had their own pronunciation, so I learned something 🙂 You know I mean other than that the middle ages really did happen but I kind of knew that going in lol.

[@photinodecay]

technically, english pronunciation is highly corrupted from the original latin pronunciation of the latin alphabet ;)

[@Nilboggen]

@@photinodecay Do you think the Vatican in its services is pretty close to original latin pronunciation? Just curious.

[@elicrodriguez]

@@Nilboggen Church Latin pronunciations are slightly different to Classical Latin.

[@photinodecay]

@@Nilboggen I am not an expert, but I recall seeing some linguists talk about some differences in liturgical vs classical Latin pronunciation

[@WaterShowsProd]

If Gregory realigned the calendar (which he did not alter enough to warrant having it bear his name) then does that mean the date we currently mark as the anniversary of Julius Caesar's assassination is three days off? I was glad to see Asterix was on the map, as we all know he actually did exist.

[@MrGksarathy]

I have had the misfortune of coming across this conspiracy theory, and I admire you for not dismissing it out of hand.

[@maheshgavaskar8093]

Looking forward to videos on mnemohistory and oral history

[@elbentos7803]

I especially loved at 10:37 "Asterix" instead of Brittany and Atlantis instead of Ireland.

[@Eleych]

Viking invaded Anglo-Saxons would like to say otherwise.

[@jamesforreal]

I'm all about historical and scientific curiosity and exploration. This sounds a bit more like "it didn't happen just cos...". But I've heard crazier theories. This is a good mental exercise, great video!

[@miketacos9034]

I love how conspiracy theories always claim that the conspiracies were started to mask something that is always extremely banal and trivial 😂

[@HansenDing]

I don't know enough about the caliphates, but every Chinese court since the Han Dynasty were so obsessed with counting years and recording astrological events that even at 15 when I first encountered this theory I knew it could be rejected out of hand. If they were like: 2300-2000 BCE didn't exist then I'd at least have to think about it a little.

[@aegystierone8505]

Thanks!

[@BgRdMchne]

You should do Fomenko's new chronology next.

[@atticdisorder]

I am not a tinfoiler. However it's a bit frustrating how many things seem to have happened just after the year 1000AD. The battle of Hastings in 1066, just after 1000AD, comes to mind. Or the great Spanish warrior El Cid who lived 1043-1099. Or the Crusades in 1095. I was just reading about the life of Robert Guiscard, 1015-1085. MAN, the 11th century was chalkfull of events and important people! It sure seems like all history waited for the 1000AD year to break loose. And before that... Well... There are certain things, yes, but... a literal handful come to mind, for 300 years....

[@KingsandGenerals]

And nothing happened before 1000?

[@alanpennie8013]

@@KingsandGenerals 600 - 1000. Not the most creative period of European history though there were still a few geniuses like Bede and Eriugena.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

Did you ever wonder who the great warrior El Cid was fighting for and against if the Umayyads never conquered Hispania?

[@atticdisorder]

@@eljanrimsa5843 That's another valid point that the tinfoilers raise. Why, did the Crusades happened so long AFTER the Islamic Conquest? We know the Islamic Conquest (including Spain) happened early, in the 600s and 700s. The Crusades waited until 1095, so like... ~350 years to be launched. why so long? It's not impossible, things were slower back then, but... 350~400 years is a lot to wait for payback, why not a millenium? Why was El Cid active in the 1000s and not in say the 800s. If the PTH is wrong, ok, it's wrong. Set aside PTH, but then I don't buy the official timeframe as it is.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

@@atticdisorder You are mixing up the reconquista and the crusades. The Umayyad conquest of Hispania was in 711, and the reconquista started with the Battle of Covadonga in 718. If you look up Spanish and Portugese history you will find no shortage of history in 700-1000. That's when the groundwork for the current country was laid in the unconquered mountains in the North, when different kingdoms found together, until they were strong enough to seriously challenge the invaders.

[@Novusod]

There is another part of the theory that Odoacer and Chalemagne (Karl der Grosse) are the same person.

[@williamhalsted4]

"... And they were, in fact, doing things." Well said.

[@KevinUchihaOG]

so is the 10% of the dislikers disliking because they thought that the middle ages never happened, or are they downvoting because they think its a silly question that dont need its own video?

[@reinercelsus8299]

I think it is arguably misrepresenting that the hypothesis was proposed by only one publicist and already discussed and disproved by german historians since the 1990s.

[@nineomite]

​@@tonywhite8131 - Oh please. I think this is a rather extreme example of otherwise intelligent people's stupid habit of babying people. Referring to a wingnut theory as a wingnut theory is not "mean" or "disrespectful". It is rather what we'd call "accurate". Yes, be kind to people... but don't tell them their insanity is something else. It isn't. Tell them the truth. We've become altogether too concerned about respecting lunacy (or getting our feelings hurt when our own lunacy is correctly described as lunacy) and it's poisoning our society. Respecting behaviour that is inherently silly (and is *actually* disrespectful - to historians, history, cultures, etc) encourages more of it.

[@KevinUchihaOG]

@@tonywhite8131 ok, thats fair. Didnt bother me but i get your point.

[@KingsandGenerals]

The dislikes are around 4%. Higher than other videos (2%), but nothing groundbreaking. Carry on.

[@janekciscek288]

@@tonywhite8131 Yeah it is absolutely beneath anyone to disprove something and all the while constantly insulting the people you are trying to correct. This video was clearly just made to have fun and make fun of other people. I found it pretty disgusting frankly so I unsubscribed.

[@johnmikezstaca4307]

Next time is about Phantom Brain pretty please.

[@mcuddy799]

I haven’t had this much fun since Dr Mark Felton debunked the rumor of Hitler’s UFO.

[@declanjones8888]

The Phantom Time hypothesis is ridiculous.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Interesting video

[@RomeWill]

I never heard of this prior

[@ireneylk1061]

27 new cathedrals 417 monastic buildings 100 royal residences in 2 years. The people of these regions must have outsourced everything not directly related to BUILDING! I mean we're talking about the absolute building frenzy! All day, all night all days of the year, all of them.

[@bartrijken1577]

pls make more videos about Dutch history

[@Siegbert85]

You can tell by the amount of insults thrown at this group that Kings and Generals feels personally offended by their ideas.

[@jodij2366]

Given the so-called phantom time happened in the Dark Ages, surely the question would be "Did the Dark Ages happen?"

[@frederickstabell3796]

Lots of historical conspiracies these days, glad to see you guys taking a stand against misinformation.

[@orarinnsnorrason4614]

Very interesting.

[@alanpennie8013]

Otto The Prodigy. Who else has accomplished so much in so short a life?

[@shiddiqhartono]

10.45 The Brittany region labelled as "Asterix" Got my eyes

[@lordMartiya]

Will you also tackle the Great Tartaria conspiracy theory?

[@Kriegtime101]

The real conspiracy is that we are still in the medieval ages.

[@halfevilhalfgood2206]

Exclusived only for middle eastern fairytale tellers..

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

The Dark Ages in Europe were also a period of low production of products from skilled industries. Houses from these eras in Europe are also made of easily rotten materials. Skills lost, returning only centuries later.

[@thedude9461]

yes indeed skills lost from the fracturing of multi continental empires and infighting. lack of stability. no peace no growth.

[@johncloptop1585]

Carbon-14 testing blows the theory out of the water.

[@synura8086]

It's not that easy. The amount of C14 in the biosphere depends on solar activity and varies over time. So C14 dates have to be calibrated to another, known timeline, like dendrology. Thus you can always argue that an isolated C14 date is inaccurate ... context is important. This is different from other methods of radioactive dating.

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

You've got to love a conspiracy theory that falls flat just on the basis of plain logistics

[@KingsandGenerals]

Most of them? :-)

[@madmanJSK]

Do the New Chronology next!

[@madmanJSK]

@@chooseyouhandle Another pseudohistorical conspiricy theory, kinda similar to this one. Got some traction some months ago via TikTok. Apparently the Roman Empire never existed, who knew!?

[@onemoreminute0543]

If the events of the 600's didn't happen......then how tf do you account for the disappearance of the Sassanid Empire and the reduction in size of Eastern Rome?

[@zackxmagz6343]

Good video, but you should have read and focused on debunking mathematician Anatoly fomenkos phantom time hypothesis. His is the most correctly developed and wrote numerous novels on it. I’m sure it would be too much of a hassle to go through them all to be fair… so this will do.

[@eshitvaprakash6681]

I had to check the title twice.

[@iceman4660]

Are they saying that all empires around the world colluded together and rewrote their histories?

[@robertm.8653]

Basically: -There are no evidences those years are real. " Is shown evidences by later historians " - No, those are fake.